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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
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Posted - 2013.10.24 23:24:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Mordecai Sanguine wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Mordecai Sanguine wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=117209&find=unread Please guys read it and "Feed it" bump it i mean it must be said to the DEV. The sidearm only is not a good idea. Assault lose their equipement slot ? meh they don't give a f*ck... Logi lose their weapon ? holy sh*t ! In 3 days w'll never see again a Logi The ISHI SMG is more than enough. It COSTS CPU/PG/ISK like a Light weapon because it can work like one.... >..> If Sidearm only logis were to exist, a dual wielding Scrambler Pistol Amarr logi would be my fit to go... XD So logi could play ONLY with SMG ishukone ? that's.... pretty restrictive don't you think :/ No, noone said that. Even restricting logis to only 3 weapons is insane. Mordecai's idea wouldn't affect the logis that no one complains about, and would make life harder for the equipment spammers and people that abuse the Logi suit. His idea would stop people from complaining about logis. It would allow the real logibros to be logibros, while defining the role more. All without any real nerf. I fully support his idea.
Cool, and I believe a real logi bro like myself is still effective with a sidearm because I am, it wouldn't just be that but assault would also lose their equipment slot, this way both roles are dependant on eachother but I also think mordecais idea is good and have been bumping it, try reading a thread before commenting, |
Fizzer94
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Posted - 2013.10.24 23:25:00 -
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Dirks Macker wrote:I use Gal logi quite a bit. I like the equipment fitting bonus, it makes sense with the three slots you get.
I was looking at some of the other bonuses and the Amarr armor local rep seems silly. So does the Minmatar hacking bonus. The Caldari shield regulator bonus makes it more of an assault suit.
If I could change the bonuses, I would make them:
* Gallente: Equipment fitting (stays same)
* Amarr: Armor rep amount bonus (like a miniature Guardian - Amarr logi ship in EVE )
* Minmatar: Bonus to remote explosive damage (move hacking bonus to Caldari scout)
* Caldari: Bonus to those future portable shield bubbles (making it the choice for medic role)
I don't like the idea of forcing someone to use a single equipment. How would you like it if the Gallente bonus only applied to Active Scanners? The Amarr bonus makes sense because it is the official Combat Logi. The Caldari bonus should apply to nanotechnology related equipment, like hives, injectors, and repair tools. The Minmatar bonus makes sense too, Logistics include hacking. |
Mordecai Sanguine
What The French CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.10.24 23:27:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Mordecai Sanguine wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Mordecai Sanguine wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=117209&find=unread Please guys read it and "Feed it" bump it i mean it must be said to the DEV. The sidearm only is not a good idea. Assault lose their equipement slot ? meh they don't give a f*ck... Logi lose their weapon ? holy sh*t ! In 3 days w'll never see again a Logi The ISHI SMG is more than enough. It COSTS CPU/PG/ISK like a Light weapon because it can work like one.... >..> If Sidearm only logis were to exist, a dual wielding Scrambler Pistol Amarr logi would be my fit to go... XD So logi could play ONLY with SMG ishukone ? that's.... pretty restrictive don't you think :/ Me myself would use dual scramblre pistols with amarr logi. AND there are still sidearms to come, ion pistol, mac sec smg's,,,etc...
Dual wielding weapon ??? Beh...It's not Kaloufdoutie or CS here..... And scrambler pistol has a great iron sight and the 450% damage when Headhot so... Dual wielding will be bad in fact
I'm a level 4 of master with Scrambler pistol which is great ! But not enough to be the unique weapon of the logi. |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
2040
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Posted - 2013.10.24 23:29:00 -
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Look the thing is; med frames dont sacrifice anything in exchange for their preformance. Light frames sacrifice HP for speed an dampening.Heavies sacrifice Speed and dampening for Heavy weapons and HP. What do Logis sacrifice? dont get me wrong i use logi on regular basis...but what do they sacrifice? Nothing.
High amount of slots and PG/CPU fix any downfall the logis might have. ME , being an assault and logi wouldnt mind sidearm only logis and equipless assaults:
GÖª Scouts: more speed and dampening,EQ slots at the exchange of HP GÖª Heavies: Heavy weapon and HP in exchange for Speed and Dampening GÖª Assaults: Good HP and mobility at the exchange of not having an equipment slot. GÖª Logis: Good HP and adaptability , also multiple equipment slot at the expense of only being able to equip sidearms.
This way,everybody has a weakness. Im not saying this IS the way to go,just saying i see how it would balance the game.
@ Mordecai Sanguine: Breach scrambler pistol + burst S.P Assault Sp + burst Sp
Both combinations have been effective in various situations... |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.10.24 23:32:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Fizzer94 wrote: Even restricting logis to only 3 weapons is insane. Mordecai's idea wouldn't affect the logis that no one complains about, and would make life harder for the equipment spammers and people that abuse the Logi suit. His idea would stop people from complaining about logis. It would allow the real logibros to be logibros, while defining the role more. All without any real nerf. I fully support his idea.
Cool, and I believe a real logi bro like myself is still effective with a sidearm because I am, it wouldn't just be that but assault would also lose their equipment slot, this way both roles are dependant on eachother but I also think mordecais idea is good and have been bumping it, try reading a thread before commenting, I too can do just fine with an SMG, I've been using just an SMG all day. Im going to be honest here, I like Plasma Cannons and ScRs too much. I won't stand to let them get taken away from me because Assaults are crying for a nerf. |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
878
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Posted - 2013.10.24 23:33:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Mordecai Sanguine wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Mordecai Sanguine wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=117209&find=unread Please guys read it and "Feed it" bump it i mean it must be said to the DEV. The sidearm only is not a good idea. Assault lose their equipement slot ? meh they don't give a f*ck... Logi lose their weapon ? holy sh*t ! In 3 days w'll never see again a Logi The ISHI SMG is more than enough. It COSTS CPU/PG/ISK like a Light weapon because it can work like one.... >..> If Sidearm only logis were to exist, a dual wielding Scrambler Pistol Amarr logi would be my fit to go... XD So logi could play ONLY with SMG ishukone ? that's.... pretty restrictive don't you think :/ No, noone said that. Even restricting logis to only 3 weapons is insane. Mordecai's idea wouldn't affect the logis that no one complains about, and would make life harder for the equipment spammers and people that abuse the Logi suit. His idea would stop people from complaining about logis. It would allow the real logibros to be logibros, while defining the role more. All without any real nerf. I fully support his idea.
And no people would still moan about the hp and combat effectiveness, it wouldmy define it either, it would be the same but some equipment bonuses, the fake logis will still just put equipment on to help themself and noone else.
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French CRONOS.
48
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Posted - 2013.10.24 23:34:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Look the thing is; med frames dont sacrifice anything in exchange for their preformance. Light frames sacrifice HP for speed an dampening.Heavies sacrifice Speed and dampening for Heavy weapons and HP. What do Logis sacrifice? dont get me wrong i use logi on regular basis...but what do they sacrifice? Nothing.
High amount of slots and PG/CPU fix any downfall the logis might have. ME , being an assault and logi wouldnt mind sidearm only logis and equipless assaults:
GÖª Scouts: more speed and dampening,EQ slots at the exchange of HP GÖª Heavies: Heavy weapon and HP in exchange for Speed and Dampening GÖª Assaults: Good HP and mobility at the exchange of not having an equipment slot. GÖª Logis: Good HP and adaptability , also multiple equipment slot at the expense of only being able to equip sidearms.
This way,everybody has a weakness. Im not saying this IS the way to go,just saying i see how it would balance the game.
As you said it's "Medium frames". They don't have weakness BUT they don't have big point too. It's the d+¬finition of "medium"
In fact i think Heavy frames is not resiliant enough. They should get at least 25% of life more. (And a REAL racial bonus) And scouts should get less "radar" visibility and the only that could use the future "claking device"
The problem is not medium frames but heavy frames that is too weak and scouts that "cloaking" is missing. |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
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Posted - 2013.10.24 23:37:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Fizzer94 wrote: Even restricting logis to only 3 weapons is insane. Mordecai's idea wouldn't affect the logis that no one complains about, and would make life harder for the equipment spammers and people that abuse the Logi suit. His idea would stop people from complaining about logis. It would allow the real logibros to be logibros, while defining the role more. All without any real nerf. I fully support his idea.
Cool, and I believe a real logi bro like myself is still effective with a sidearm because I am, it wouldn't just be that but assault would also lose their equipment slot, this way both roles are dependant on eachother but I also think mordecais idea is good and have been bumping it, try reading a thread before commenting, I too can do just fine with an SMG, I've been using just an SMG all day. Im going to be honest here, I like Plasma Cannons and ScRs too much. I won't stand to let them get taken away from me because Assaults are crying for a nerf.
The balance would be assault loses its equipment making both more dependant on eachother, defining both roles better and encouraging team work, noone likes this though so people will whine forever about logi hp and fake logis. |
Mordecai Sanguine
What The French CRONOS.
48
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Posted - 2013.10.24 23:38:00 -
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And no people would still moan about the hp and combat effectiveness, it wouldmy define it either, it would be the same but some equipment bonuses, the fake logis will still just put equipment on to help themself and noone else.
Maybe but this time with 20% of PG/CPU gone. They will be really less effective than assault in combat so they will go in assault suit. Logitics will be still efficience in combat but less than assault (Less protected or less damage if you were putting damage mods). |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
878
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Posted - 2013.10.24 23:39:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Look the thing is; med frames dont sacrifice anything in exchange for their preformance. Light frames sacrifice HP for speed an dampening.Heavies sacrifice Speed and dampening for Heavy weapons and HP. What do Logis sacrifice? dont get me wrong i use logi on regular basis...but what do they sacrifice? Nothing.
High amount of slots and PG/CPU fix any downfall the logis might have. ME , being an assault and logi wouldnt mind sidearm only logis and equipless assaults:
GÖª Scouts: more speed and dampening,EQ slots at the exchange of HP GÖª Heavies: Heavy weapon and HP in exchange for Speed and Dampening GÖª Assaults: Good HP and mobility at the exchange of not having an equipment slot. GÖª Logis: Good HP and adaptability , also multiple equipment slot at the expense of only being able to equip sidearms.
This way,everybody has a weakness. Im not saying this IS the way to go,just saying i see how it would balance the game.
@ Mordecai Sanguine: Breach scrambler pistol + burst S.P Assault Sp + burst Sp
Both combinations have been effective in various situations...
This is also a good post. |
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French CRONOS.
48
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Posted - 2013.10.24 23:41:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Fizzer94 wrote: Even restricting logis to only 3 weapons is insane. Mordecai's idea wouldn't affect the logis that no one complains about, and would make life harder for the equipment spammers and people that abuse the Logi suit. His idea would stop people from complaining about logis. It would allow the real logibros to be logibros, while defining the role more. All without any real nerf. I fully support his idea.
Cool, and I believe a real logi bro like myself is still effective with a sidearm because I am, it wouldn't just be that but assault would also lose their equipment slot, this way both roles are dependant on eachother but I also think mordecais idea is good and have been bumping it, try reading a thread before commenting, I too can do just fine with an SMG, I've been using just an SMG all day. Im going to be honest here, I like Plasma Cannons and ScRs too much. I won't stand to let them get taken away from me because Assaults are crying for a nerf. The balance would be assault loses its equipment making both more dependant on eachother, defining both roles better and encouraging team work, noone likes this though so people will whine forever about logi hp and fake logis.
It's not balanced. Assault don't really give a f*ck about their slot. In combat it will not changing anything for him. For him the changement will be secondary.
For the logi who lose 90% of his firepower it will be the end. It will became an heal slave who can't survive without other people. While assault can still do his job. |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.24 23:46:00 -
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Mordecai Sanguine wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Fizzer94 wrote: Even restricting logis to only 3 weapons is insane. Mordecai's idea wouldn't affect the logis that no one complains about, and would make life harder for the equipment spammers and people that abuse the Logi suit. His idea would stop people from complaining about logis. It would allow the real logibros to be logibros, while defining the role more. All without any real nerf. I fully support his idea.
Cool, and I believe a real logi bro like myself is still effective with a sidearm because I am, it wouldn't just be that but assault would also lose their equipment slot, this way both roles are dependant on eachother but I also think mordecais idea is good and have been bumping it, try reading a thread before commenting, I too can do just fine with an SMG, I've been using just an SMG all day. Im going to be honest here, I like Plasma Cannons and ScRs too much. I won't stand to let them get taken away from me because Assaults are crying for a nerf. The balance would be assault loses its equipment making both more dependant on eachother, defining both roles better and encouraging team work, noone likes this though so people will whine forever about logi hp and fake logis. It's not balanced. Assault don't really give a f*ck about their slot. In combat it will not changing anything for him. For him the changement will be secondary. For the logi who lose 90% of his firepower it will be the end. It will became an heal slave who can't survive without other people. While assault can still do his job.
maybe the problem isn't the logi, but the assault!
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=117231&find=unread
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.10.24 23:55:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Fizzer94 wrote: Even restricting logis to only 3 weapons is insane. Mordecai's idea wouldn't affect the logis that no one complains about, and would make life harder for the equipment spammers and people that abuse the Logi suit. His idea would stop people from complaining about logis. It would allow the real logibros to be logibros, while defining the role more. All without any real nerf. I fully support his idea.
Cool, and I believe a real logi bro like myself is still effective with a sidearm because I am, it wouldn't just be that but assault would also lose their equipment slot, this way both roles are dependant on eachother but I also think mordecais idea is good and have been bumping it, try reading a thread before commenting, I too can do just fine with an SMG, I've been using just an SMG all day. Im going to be honest here, I like Plasma Cannons and ScRs too much. I won't stand to let them get taken away from me because Assaults are crying for a nerf. The balance would be assault loses its equipment making both more dependant on eachother, defining both roles better and encouraging team work, noone likes this though so people will whine forever about logi hp and fake logis. Your idea sound like a nerf to logis, real and fake, with a "nerf" to assaults so they are "balanced". A light weapon slot is worth a lot more than an equipment slot. |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
878
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Posted - 2013.10.24 23:58:00 -
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Mordecai Sanguine wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Fizzer94 wrote: Even restricting logis to only 3 weapons is insane. Mordecai's idea wouldn't affect the logis that no one complains about, and would make life harder for the equipment spammers and people that abuse the Logi suit. His idea would stop people from complaining about logis. It would allow the real logibros to be logibros, while defining the role more. All without any real nerf. I fully support his idea.
Cool, and I believe a real logi bro like myself is still effective with a sidearm because I am, it wouldn't just be that but assault would also lose their equipment slot, this way both roles are dependant on eachother but I also think mordecais idea is good and have been bumping it, try reading a thread before commenting, I too can do just fine with an SMG, I've been using just an SMG all day. Im going to be honest here, I like Plasma Cannons and ScRs too much. I won't stand to let them get taken away from me because Assaults are crying for a nerf. The balance would be assault loses its equipment making both more dependant on eachother, defining both roles better and encouraging team work, noone likes this though so people will whine forever about logi hp and fake logis. It's not balanced. Assault don't really give a f*ck about their slot. In combat it will not changing anything for him. For him the changement will be secondary. For the logi who lose 90% of his firepower it will be the end. It will became an heal slave who can't survive without other people. While assault can still do his job.
I use a sidearm on it's own and I can assure you its good enough, I'm not Just a heal slave at all, |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
879
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Posted - 2013.10.24 23:59:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Fizzer94 wrote: Even restricting logis to only 3 weapons is insane. Mordecai's idea wouldn't affect the logis that no one complains about, and would make life harder for the equipment spammers and people that abuse the Logi suit. His idea would stop people from complaining about logis. It would allow the real logibros to be logibros, while defining the role more. All without any real nerf. I fully support his idea.
Cool, and I believe a real logi bro like myself is still effective with a sidearm because I am, it wouldn't just be that but assault would also lose their equipment slot, this way both roles are dependant on eachother but I also think mordecais idea is good and have been bumping it, try reading a thread before commenting, I too can do just fine with an SMG, I've been using just an SMG all day. Im going to be honest here, I like Plasma Cannons and ScRs too much. I won't stand to let them get taken away from me because Assaults are crying for a nerf. The balance would be assault loses its equipment making both more dependant on eachother, defining both roles better and encouraging team work, noone likes this though so people will whine forever about logi hp and fake logis. Your idea sound like a nerf to logis, real and fake, with a "nerf" to assaults so they are "balanced". A light weapon slot is worth a lot more than an equipment slot.
So you have completely missed how this would encourage more teamwork. Ok understood. |
Mordecai Sanguine
What The French CRONOS.
49
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Posted - 2013.10.25 00:04:00 -
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Quote:I use a sidearm on it's own and I can assure you its good enough, I'm not Just a heal slave at all
I'm using a Master Level 4 Scrambler pistol. And i'm really good with it (3/4 of shot is on the target and 1/2 on the head).
But sorry i don't want to be killed everytime the ennemy have a proto duvolle that can blast 15000ehp in one mag at 40meters while i can't even touch him.
Be realist 2seconds. Please stop saying you're good with secondary.
Maybe you killed advanced with Proto secondary. Maybe even some protos. But just nO. NO to only secondary weapon.
If it does Logi can be removed nobody will ever play Logi.
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m twiggz
Eternal Beings
108
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Posted - 2013.10.25 00:07:00 -
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"nerf nerf nerf" ... Team work is based on the individual, not on the suit he is wearing. You asking for nerfs to specific suits won't encourage someone to "play their role" it will encourage them to come to the forums and complain about even more nerfs, or just quit the game altogether. CCP really needs to stop coddling complainers. You people are whats truly ruining this game. |
Mordecai Sanguine
What The French CRONOS.
49
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Posted - 2013.10.25 00:07:00 -
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Quote:So you have completely missed how this would encourage more teamwork. Ok understood.
Even. Assault don't give a f*ck about their logi. In fact Logi is yellow and always shot in first place. What you want is the Logi as a human shield for assault.
Assault will NEVER protect his Logi and even if he tried the logi will be shot first.
It will encourage teamwork ONLY for the Logi because without he can't even survive..... For the assault...Meh who cares ? |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
2044
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Posted - 2013.10.25 00:10:00 -
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How about Removing the equipment to the assault and giving Logis Sidearms AND CQ weapons....I mena... AR will soon be a CQ,shotguns,flaylocks,scrambler pistols,SMG, nova knifes...not to meniton OTHER Sidearms soon to come...
Just an idea. |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.10.25 00:11:00 -
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I know it would encourage teamwork. But that isn't the issue, there is enough teamwork as is. The issue is that people are abusing logistics suits to get stats similar to assault suits. Mordecai's idea would greatly help prevent that.
How many assaults would care that their Equipment slot was gone with all the free Logi kills they would be getting? Because I can tell you pretty much every Logi would care that they don't have a light weapon anymore. Your idea is heavily in favor of assaults, by a wide margin. |
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
879
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Posted - 2013.10.25 00:11:00 -
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Mordecai Sanguine wrote:Quote:So you have completely missed how this would encourage more teamwork. Ok understood. Even. Assault don't give a f*ck about their logi. In fact Logi is yellow and always shot in first place. What you want is the Logi as a human shield for assault. Assault will NEVER protect his Logi and even if he tried the logi will be shot first. It will encourage teamwork ONLY for the Logi because without he can't even survive..... For the assault...Meh who cares ?
Assaults run out of ammo very quick, they need uplinks, revives and healing, I can assure you that you are wrong. |
Mordecai Sanguine
What The French CRONOS.
49
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Posted - 2013.10.25 00:12:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:How about Removing the equipment to the assault and giving Logis Sidearms AND CQ weapons....I mena... AR will soon be a CQ,shotguns,flaylocks,scrambler pistols,SMG, nova knifes...not to meniton OTHER Sidearms soon to come...
Just an idea.
I know you have a good intention but stop having ideas about "weapon restriction". Logis are not slave or human shield or free kill for assault don't forget it.... |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
879
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Posted - 2013.10.25 00:12:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:I know it would encourage teamwork. But that isn't the issue, there is enough teamwork as is. The issue is that people are abusing logistics suits to get stats similar to assault suits. Mordecai's idea would greatly help prevent that.
How many assaults would care that their Equipment slot was gone with all the free Logi kills they would be getting? Because I can tell you pretty much every Logi would care that they don't have a light weapon anymore. Your idea is heavily in favor of assaults, by a wide margin.
Its not, I am a logi, you just don't get it. |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
879
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Posted - 2013.10.25 00:14:00 -
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Mordecai Sanguine wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:How about Removing the equipment to the assault and giving Logis Sidearms AND CQ weapons....I mena... AR will soon be a CQ,shotguns,flaylocks,scrambler pistols,SMG, nova knifes...not to meniton OTHER Sidearms soon to come...
Just an idea. I know you have a good intention but stop having ideas about "weapon restriction". Logis are not slave or human shield or free kill for assault don't forget it....
Im going to be honest now, I think you must not be that good a player, and you cant tell people to stop voicing their opinion, you are not ccp. |
Mordecai Sanguine
What The French CRONOS.
49
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Posted - 2013.10.25 00:18:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Mordecai Sanguine wrote:Quote:So you have completely missed how this would encourage more teamwork. Ok understood. Even. Assault don't give a f*ck about their logi. In fact Logi is yellow and always shot in first place. What you want is the Logi as a human shield for assault. Assault will NEVER protect his Logi and even if he tried the logi will be shot first. It will encourage teamwork ONLY for the Logi because without he can't even survive..... For the assault...Meh who cares ? Assaults run out of ammo very quick, they need uplinks, revives and healing, I can assure you that you are wrong.
I doesn't change the fact than Logi will not survive to help the assault. So anyway the logi will be dead and couldn't help the assault.
Even if one day the assault and the Logi play as teamwork as you think (It will be NEVER). The logi is always shot in first and will never survive with secondary weapon or will be about to die. So he's dead and can't help OR he needs help so he will need a Logi to help the logi |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
2047
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Posted - 2013.10.25 00:21:00 -
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Mordecai Sanguine wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:How about Removing the equipment to the assault and giving Logis Sidearms AND CQ weapons....I mena... AR will soon be a CQ,shotguns,flaylocks,scrambler pistols,SMG, nova knifes...not to meniton OTHER Sidearms soon to come...
Just an idea. I know you have a good intention but stop having ideas about "weapon restriction". Logis are not slave or human shield or free kill for assault don't forget it....
Bro. Logi is my main suit. Im an Amarr logi 1st I use Dual Scrambler Pistols and mantain my 3 K-D ratio pretty nicely. When i get pwnd , i just put on a Gek and Be OP mode.
Im not talking out of my a** here. I know the advantage i have while wearing my Logi suit. All the advantages none of the disadvantages.If i dont like something about the suit, pling! Module and its fixed. Its so adaptable that i can Run as a scout, with lower profile dampening and 600 HP. Or tank (At ADV level) all the way up to 900HP for 35k ISK. Or i can stack Damage mods (3) and Armor tank for 680 HP and a Lot of firepower...etc.. Logis at proto level outlast heavies,have more firepower than assaults,can run faster than scouts,etc///
Every suit needs a downfall.
1)Logis DONT have disadvantages 2)The only disadvantage an Assault has; Its that its not a Logi....
''Assaults run out of ammo very quick, they need uplinks, revives and healing, I can assure you that you are wrong.'' Yeah,thats what the logi will be there for... |
m twiggz
Eternal Beings
108
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Posted - 2013.10.25 00:21:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Mordecai Sanguine wrote:Quote:So you have completely missed how this would encourage more teamwork. Ok understood. Even. Assault don't give a f*ck about their logi. In fact Logi is yellow and always shot in first place. What you want is the Logi as a human shield for assault. Assault will NEVER protect his Logi and even if he tried the logi will be shot first. It will encourage teamwork ONLY for the Logi because without he can't even survive..... For the assault...Meh who cares ? Assaults run out of ammo very quick, they need uplinks, revives and healing, I can assure you that you are wrong.
I manage to lay nano hives, uplinks and rep players while still getting my fair share of kills. The problem isn't the suit, its the people in them. Nerf the suit? No, that won't fix anything. Your idea is just ridiculous. |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
879
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Posted - 2013.10.25 00:23:00 -
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Mordecai Sanguine wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Mordecai Sanguine wrote:Quote:So you have completely missed how this would encourage more teamwork. Ok understood. Even. Assault don't give a f*ck about their logi. In fact Logi is yellow and always shot in first place. What you want is the Logi as a human shield for assault. - Assault will NEVER protect his Logi and even if he tried the logi will be shot first. It will encourage teamwork ONLY for the Logi because without he can't even survive..... For the assault...Meh who cares ? Assaults run out of ammo very quick, they need uplinks, revives and healing, I can assure you that you are wrong. I doesn't change the fact than Logi will not survive to help the assault. So anyway the logi will be dead and couldn't help the assault. Even if one day the assault and the Logi play as teamwork as you think (It will be NEVER). The logi is always shot in first and will never survive with secondary weapon or will be about to die. So he's dead and can't help OR he needs help so he will need a Logi to help the logi
Sorry but most people play with teamwork, if a logi is up front getting shot first he's doing it wrong and besides I checked your stats, you do not even have sufficient experience to even back up half your opinions. |
Spycrab Potato
Hold-Your-Fire
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Posted - 2013.10.25 00:25:00 -
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Cross Ragweed wrote:they best consider a respec with any changes like this, would sure hate the lose the 3mil + I've dumped into ar skills. Pfft. I have 7 million invested in my Logi, Equipment, and Upgrades. How do you think I feel about people thinking we should be sidearm only. |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
879
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Posted - 2013.10.25 00:25:00 -
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m twiggz wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Mordecai Sanguine wrote:Quote:So you have completely missed how this would encourage more teamwork. Ok understood. Even. Assault don't give a f*ck about their logi. In fact Logi is yellow and always shot in first place. What you want is the Logi as a human shield for assault. Assault will NEVER protect his Logi and even if he tried the logi will be shot first. It will encourage teamwork ONLY for the Logi because without he can't even survive..... For the assault...Meh who cares ? Assaults run out of ammo very quick, they need uplinks, revives and healing, I can assure you that you are wrong. I manage to lay nano hives, uplinks and rep players while still getting my fair share of kills. The problem isn't the suit, its the people in them. Nerf the suit? No, that won't fix anything. Your idea is just ridiculous.
Yes and I do exactly the same with a sidearm so no it's not ridiculous. |
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