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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2013.10.20 00:48:00 -
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If BPOs are currently not functioning as intended, what is the intended function of BPOs.
I also saw a post in which a CCP representative stated they were considering not allowing the trade/sale of BPOs on the player controlled market.
Not allowing the trade of BPOs is a very bad Idea.
There should never be Items purchased by some, but not available to all. This rallies against the Free to Play model. It sends a very bad message to new players, and disproportionately rewards veteran players with the unrestricted ability to earn ISK which they mostly do not need anyway.
Most veteran players are in PC, where they make millions of ISK per match. Those corporations which own districts also make millions perhaps billions of ISK by the sale of clones. Then they are able to turn around and play Pub matches using full BPO fittings and risk absolutely no loss.
The players that could benefit the most from BPOs - the new players - will then only further fatten the wallets of the veteran players, while at the same time depleting their own because they would always be forced to risk something to play.
In a game where risk vs reward is supposed to be the driving factor, not allowing the trade of BPOs after removing the ability to otherwise obtain them completely destroys this philosophy. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2013.10.30 11:25:00 -
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Evicer wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:If BPOs are currently not functioning as intended, what is the intended function of BPOs.
I also saw a post in which a CCP representative stated they were considering not allowing the trade/sale of BPOs on the player controlled market.
Not allowing the trade of BPOs is a very bad Idea.
There should never be Items purchased by some, but not available to all. This rallies against the Free to Play model. It sends a very bad message to new players, and disproportionately rewards veteran players with the unrestricted ability to earn ISK which they mostly do not need anyway.
Most veteran players are in PC, where they make millions of ISK per match. Those corporations which own districts also make millions perhaps billions of ISK by the sale of clones. Then they are able to turn around and play Pub matches using full BPO fittings and risk absolutely no loss.
The players that could benefit the most from BPOs - the new players - will then only further fatten the wallets of the veteran players, while at the same time depleting their own because they would always be forced to risk something to play.
In a game where risk vs reward is supposed to be the driving factor, not allowing the trade of BPOs after removing the ability to otherwise obtain them completely destroys this philosophy. A very strong and valid argument. On the one hand, I don't mind seeing my BPOs locked to my account as I don't have dozens of copies of each BPO as some of people do and I don't intend to sell them anyways. But on the other hand, there are many players that did stockpile them and do intend to sell them to other players for massive profit. Therefore who am I to restrict what others can do with their assets? On top of that, you make a very good point in regards to how it's a bad idea to make something purchasable by some but not available to all. no Im afraid its not I have yet to see a PC team running around in BPO suits.Nonsense. Given his hypothesis as flawed as it is then praytell how are you supposed to compete against players with Millions of Isk? By using BPO's......
Lot's of PC players use their BPOs in Pubs and FW. How many times have you been killed by an "Exile" or "Toxin" AR? I see those more than Duvolles! Not to mention the BPO suits!
"The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies."
**The Toad Sage**
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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2013.11.04 01:46:00 -
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Evicer wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Evicer wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:If BPOs are currently not functioning as intended, what is the intended function of BPOs.
I also saw a post in which a CCP representative stated they were considering not allowing the trade/sale of BPOs on the player controlled market.
Not allowing the trade of BPOs is a very bad Idea.
There should never be Items purchased by some, but not available to all. This rallies against the Free to Play model. It sends a very bad message to new players, and disproportionately rewards veteran players with the unrestricted ability to earn ISK which they mostly do not need anyway.
Most veteran players are in PC, where they make millions of ISK per match. Those corporations which own districts also make millions perhaps billions of ISK by the sale of clones. Then they are able to turn around and play Pub matches using full BPO fittings and risk absolutely no loss.
The players that could benefit the most from BPOs - the new players - will then only further fatten the wallets of the veteran players, while at the same time depleting their own because they would always be forced to risk something to play.
In a game where risk vs reward is supposed to be the driving factor, not allowing the trade of BPOs after removing the ability to otherwise obtain them completely destroys this philosophy. A very strong and valid argument. On the one hand, I don't mind seeing my BPOs locked to my account as I don't have dozens of copies of each BPO as some of people do and I don't intend to sell them anyways. But on the other hand, there are many players that did stockpile them and do intend to sell them to other players for massive profit. Therefore who am I to restrict what others can do with their assets? On top of that, you make a very good point in regards to how it's a bad idea to make something purchasable by some but not available to all. no Im afraid its not I have yet to see a PC team running around in BPO suits.Nonsense. Given his hypothesis as flawed as it is then praytell how are you supposed to compete against players with Millions of Isk? By using BPO's...... Lot's of PC players use their BPOs in Pubs and FW. How many times have you been killed by an "Exile" or "Toxin" AR? I see those more than Duvolles! Not to mention the BPO suits! Those same Pc corp players with millions of Isk could use militia/standard weapons.What is your point? We'll say for example player A in a pc corp has a 8.0 kdr and he uses militia in a bub match and goes 16-2..... hes still making Isk.....again what is your point?
My point is, the BPOs will not be available to the players who could benefit from them the most. This will also become much much more readily apparent when ISK rewards for Faction Warfare are removed. Players who can actually afford to use ISK gear in FW will have BPOs, while players who would greatly benefit from the use of BPOs in FW will not have any.
"The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies."
- The Toad Sage
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