Let me put this another way.

In EVE, logistics ships carry no weapons. Maybe a some light combat drones to ***** on killmails, but nothing that would make a difference in the overall DPS of the fleet. They are stocked full of repair tools, their sole purpose is to keep their fleetmates alive, to the point where corps/alliances that reimburse ship losses may refuse to reimburse a logi pilot if he had a gun fitted.

Without a sufficient number of them, fleets don't leave.

Battles have been won because the logistics of one side were able to keep their reps focused and coordinated enough to hold their friends against enemy damage, or lost because there wasn't enough and the enemy chewed through a "slayer" heavy fleet like paper.

Doesn't it make sense that Dust would follow a similar principle? It's about far more than just shooting the other guy in the face, and I'd take one skilled logibro over a whole squad of average slayers in any match.

Let me put this another way.

In EVE, logistics ships carry no weapons. Maybe a some light combat drones to ***** on killmails, but nothing that would make a difference in the overall DPS of the fleet. They are stocked full of repair tools, their sole purpose is to keep their fleetmates alive, to the point where corps/alliances that reimburse ship losses may refuse to reimburse a logi pilot if he had a gun fitted.

Without a sufficient number of them, fleets don't leave.

Battles have been won because the logistics of one side were able to keep their reps focused and coordinated enough to hold their friends against enemy damage, or lost because there wasn't enough and the enemy chewed through a "slayer" heavy fleet like paper.

Doesn't it make sense that Dust would follow a similar principle? It's about far more than just shooting the other guy in the face, and I'd take one skilled logibro over a whole squad of average slayers in any match.

Honestly, the Logistic role in dust is arguably the easiest role to perform next to AV, yet this role is by far rewarded the most WP for the amount of skill required. The rate at which Logistic can passively gain SP is atrocious. When I drop a 29-0 in regular ambush, a logi player should never even be close to my WP gain. Yet, a Logi player, going 4-15, manges to be only 75 WP behind me.

Logistics are rewarded for providing:

Spawns
Ammo
Healing
Scanning
...etc

However the Slayer/Assault ,arguably the most important role, is only rewarded for killing.

The headshot bonus was a good start, yet why I am not rewarded for the following:

-Rate at which we kill multiple targets.

-Surviving with multiple kills.

I am tired of being in the front lines taking the bullets, explosives, and mindless noobs. While a Logi sits back and passively farms WP for my efforts.

1. I hardly die in ambush why would I need spawns links, and I would never spawn on a random uplink.

2. I carry my own ammo

3. I shield tank, why would I want reps

So again, tell me how the Logi is helping me win?

However the Slayer/Assault ,arguably the most important role, is only rewarded for killing.

Logis, duh.

Just have them pull out the assault logi fit.

Ammo, Droplinks, Scanners, AND more HP then an Assault.

Make post like that again, without thinking, and I will personally run your entire corp out of PC for a month. I respect University for somewhat trying to educate the masses. However, my tolerance for ignorance only goes so far.

Tread lightly little merc...

Unfortunately, CCP doesn't agree:

However, 'slayers'/assault players could do with additional bonii in addition to the headshot kill bonus. MAAAAYYYBBEE

So why can't logis be nerfed to a sidearm so they can't be super assaults? I'd accept a buff to their equipment to trade off.

I don't understand how logis in this game can kill more effectively than assaults themselves. Sidearms are powerful enough as they are anyways (SMG and SP are godly in good hands).

Lets put it this way.

In football, does the team with the most yards win? No, the team with the most points does.

I don't see why you can't Logi yourself and still be a killwhore. Logis carry guns too. So, why not try it yourself? Why not double your own WP?
See how long you survive when you have to put away your gun to revive and rep a teammate.
DUST doesn't FFA.

And stop calling yourself a "slayer".

Honestly, the Logistic role in dust is arguably the easiest role to perform next to AV, yet this role is by far rewarded the most WP for the amount of skill required. The rate at which Logistic can passively gain SP is atrocious. When I drop a 29-0 in regular ambush, a logi player should never even be close to my WP gain. Yet, a Logi player, going 4-15, manges to be only 75 WP behind me.

Logistics are rewarded for providing:

Spawns
Ammo
Healing
Scanning
...etc

However the Slayer/Assault ,arguably the most important role, is only rewarded for killing.

The headshot bonus was a good start, yet why I am not rewarded for the following:

-Rate at which we kill multiple targets.

-Surviving with multiple kills.

I am tired of being in the front lines taking the bullets, explosives, and mindless noobs. While a Logi sits back and passively farms WP for my efforts.

Sorry I keep my Gun loaded and locked. I'm usually winning the game on the front lines and easymode logis are to busy at the back farming WP

Make post like that again, without thinking, and I will personally run your entire corp out of PC for a month. I respect University for somewhat trying to educate the masses. However, my tolerance for ignorance only goes so far.

Tread lightly little merc...

Good for CCP.. BRAVO!

All I am stating is Logi is easymode with high returns.

1. I preach it and teach it.

2. If you actually could read you would know I topped 1st...

3. How is going 29-0 in 50 kill ambush not pulling my weight. That is the very definition carrying

Why are you angry at someone that's helping the team, while all you're doing is killing?

1. I hardly die in ambush why would I need spawns links, and I would never spawn on a random uplink.

2. I carry my own ammo

3. I shield tank, why would I want reps

So again, tell me how the Logi is helping me win?

Make post like that again, without thinking, and I will personally run your entire corp out of PC for a month. I respect University for somewhat trying to educate the masses. However, my tolerance for ignorance only goes so far.

Tread lightly little merc...

Really so a team of Logi would beat of slayers in PC?

Anyways heres my question to real PC players

What would you want more in PC team

The greatest slayer in the game or the greatest Logi

I know who I would choose

Really? You are now at a new low for threatening corps over this matter?

How to gain easy WP as logi:

1. Go to Skirmish or Ambush OMS
2. Be in bad team
3. Spam uplinks and both types of Nanohives, injectors still welcome
4. ????
5. Profit


Trust me this works, I did it on Chromosome in a Min Logi and got 2000+ WP real fast.

How to gain easy WP as logi:

1. Go to Skirmish or Ambush OMS
2. Be in bad team
3. Spam uplinks and both types of Nanohives, injectors still welcome
4. ????
5. Profit


Trust me this works, I did it on Chromosome in a Min Logi and got 2000+ WP real fast.

Dust Jesus has spoken