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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
591
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Posted - 2013.10.11 19:20:00 -
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Regy I never got your surprise :( |
ReGnYuM
TeamPlayers EoN.
992
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Posted - 2013.10.11 19:23:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Regy I never got your surprise :(
chill dude ppl are working |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
591
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Posted - 2013.10.11 19:26:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Regy I never got your surprise :( chill dude ppl are working Lol ok, make sure you let me know cause I'm looking foreward to it |
Boot Booter
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
105
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Posted - 2013.10.11 19:27:00 -
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Drop uplink give too many war points, not the logis fault but most run with up links and Sooo... . Also, squad with Logibro + defend order = instant orbital = more kills and WP for you. Why are you complaining about that? |
Severus Smith
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
372
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Posted - 2013.10.11 19:53:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:1. I hardly die in ambush why would I need spawns links, and I would never spawn on a random uplink.
2. I carry my own ammo
3. I shield tank, why would I want reps
So again, tell me how the Logi is helping me win? I've sad it before. Want to balance this game more? Give Assault suits +3% RoF per level and remove their equipment. That makes them specialized killing machines (as they should be) who are also reliant on support troops (as they should be) to restock their ammo / get them back in to the front lines.
Right now a squad of 6 Assaults (a specialized suit) can repair, scan, restock ammo, revive, and drop uplinks. If you make them more deadly but remove their equipment they need to bring at least one Logi with them to keep them stocked / alive. Then ReGnYuM wont complain about "useless" Logi's as he needs them to keep his Gallente WP tube stocked with bullets.
Yay specialization! |
Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers EoN.
1291
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Posted - 2013.10.11 20:01:00 -
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8213 wrote:News flash: You're not a slayer. You're a selfish killwhore.
Slayers aren't supposed to just rack up kills. They are suppose to kill specific players. They don't get the most kills they get the strategic kills.
Defense kills, defending an objective. Offense kills, clearing out and protecting objective takers. Neutralizing the other teams slayer.
Killwhoring a bunch of Militia noobs accomplishes nothing. Its just selfish K/D buffing, even in Ambush.
In DUST you can go 50-0 and still lose. You may not need a Logo, but you're team as a whole won't win without one. I've gone 30s-0 and had my squad go 100-0 and still lost, because a revived clone means nothing on the scoreboard.
Man me n you (once you're on your main) need to have a session.
"The Pro's of Core Nading" is a 2 week course that you clearly are in need of my friend
xD |
Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers EoN.
1291
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Posted - 2013.10.11 20:02:00 -
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Severus Smith wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:1. I hardly die in ambush why would I need spawns links, and I would never spawn on a random uplink.
2. I carry my own ammo
3. I shield tank, why would I want reps
So again, tell me how the Logi is helping me win? I've sad it before. Want to balance this game more? Give Assault suits +3% RoF per level and remove their equipment. That makes them specialized killing machines (as they should be) who are also reliant on support troops (as they should be) to restock their ammo / get them back in to the front lines. Right now a squad of 6 Assaults (a specialized suit) can repair, scan, restock ammo, revive, and drop uplinks. If you make them more deadly but remove their equipment they need to bring at least one Logi with them to keep them stocked / alive. Then ReGnYuM wont complain about "useless" Logi's as he needs them to keep his Gallente WP tube stocked with bullets. Yay specialization!
He isn't gallente. |
Severus Smith
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
374
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Posted - 2013.10.11 20:04:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Severus Smith wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:1. I hardly die in ambush why would I need spawns links, and I would never spawn on a random uplink.
2. I carry my own ammo
3. I shield tank, why would I want reps
So again, tell me how the Logi is helping me win? I've sad it before. Want to balance this game more? Give Assault suits +3% RoF per level and remove their equipment. That makes them specialized killing machines (as they should be) who are also reliant on support troops (as they should be) to restock their ammo / get them back in to the front lines. Right now a squad of 6 Assaults (a specialized suit) can repair, scan, restock ammo, revive, and drop uplinks. If you make them more deadly but remove their equipment they need to bring at least one Logi with them to keep them stocked / alive. Then ReGnYuM wont complain about "useless" Logi's as he needs them to keep his Gallente WP tube stocked with bullets. Yay specialization! He isn't gallente. But his AR is... |
Incin3rate
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
4
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Posted - 2013.10.11 20:42:00 -
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Pull up you're pants, your E-peen is showing. |
Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers EoN.
1291
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Posted - 2013.10.11 20:47:00 -
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As a talented logistics player a really good logistics player can compete with the best slayers in kills, and yet own the **** out of the slayers on wp's.
I drop 40+ kill games soloing skirmish for the Ammar, and carry the team with my first fit setting 11 proto links 2+ at each obj that carries the game for my team (cause lol blueberries being reliable dropping links) and yet I can focus all game on killing and then post scores like:
Ambush
Ammer FW
PC
And then blueberries send you e-peen stroking mailz like this one from when I started shaking off the rust last week.
overall as a slayer logi I can fit proto links, enhanced scanner, proto hives, and an enhanced injector +1k hp at 4.6 move speed + proto duvolle and core locus.
Sure it took me 22+ mill hp to get it all together but it's pretty amazing. Logi's are slayer with equips imo. there's few times me on a repping hive > an assault switching to his sidearm
Just saying
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The legend345
TeamPlayers EoN.
1186
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Posted - 2013.10.11 20:50:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:As a talented logistics player a really good logistics player can compete with the best slayers in kills, and yet own the **** out of the slayers on wp's. I drop 40+ kill games soloing skirmish for the Ammar, and carry the team with my first fit setting 11 proto links 2+ at each obj that carries the game for my team (cause lol blueberries being reliable dropping links) and yet I can focus all game on killing and then post scores like: AmbushAmmer FWPCAnd then blueberries send you e-peen stroking mailz like this one from when I started shaking off the rust last week. overall as a slayer logi I can fit proto links, enhanced scanner, proto hives, and an enhanced injector +1k hp at 4.6 move speed + proto duvolle and core locus. Sure it took me 22+ mill hp to get it all together but it's pretty amazing. Logi's are slayer with equips imo. there's few times me on a repping hive > an assault switching to his sidearm Just saying In other words core locus nade... I mean |
Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers EoN.
1291
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Posted - 2013.10.11 20:53:00 -
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The legend345 wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:As a talented logistics player a really good logistics player can compete with the best slayers in kills, and yet own the **** out of the slayers on wp's. I drop 40+ kill games soloing skirmish for the Ammar, and carry the team with my first fit setting 11 proto links 2+ at each obj that carries the game for my team (cause lol blueberries being reliable dropping links) and yet I can focus all game on killing and then post scores like: AmbushAmmer FWPCAnd then blueberries send you e-peen stroking mailz like this one from when I started shaking off the rust last week. overall as a slayer logi I can fit proto links, enhanced scanner, proto hives, and an enhanced injector +1k hp at 4.6 move speed + proto duvolle and core locus. Sure it took me 22+ mill hp to get it all together but it's pretty amazing. Logi's are slayer with equips imo. there's few times me on a repping hive > an assault switching to his sidearm Just saying In other words core locus nade... I mean
Nah gun game. Go watch match 4 of the tourney and tell me about marauder throwing core's though :P Duvolle vs Officer weaps for the win son. GOML!
nvm...BANG BANG |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1253
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Posted - 2013.10.11 20:57:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Actually, as much as I disagree with his view towards Logistics it would actually be cool if we got more points for surviving and killing longer as assaults. I agree. Maybe the WP reward for kills should increment by 2 WP after each kill, and get reset every time you die. So if you go 20/0 your first kill gives you 50 points and your 20th kill earns you 70 WP. (Example does not include Squad and Headshot bonuses.) |
Phazoid
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
50
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Posted - 2013.10.11 21:04:00 -
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OMG, a logi healed you, provided you with ammo, gave you a spawn place and scanned your enemies, and THEY HAVE MORE WP THAN YOU?, THIS IS MADNESS, MADNESS I SAY!, pathethic, you and this tread. |
Mortedeamor
Internal Rebellion
406
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Posted - 2013.10.11 21:11:00 -
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not all logi's are low kill wp harvesters. |
Mortedeamor
Internal Rebellion
407
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Posted - 2013.10.11 21:20:00 -
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Roofer Madness wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Actually, as much as I disagree with his view towards Logistics it would actually be cool if we got more points for surviving and killing longer as assaults. I think they should reward kill streaks for sure. i would rather the rewards for doings ones job resulted in isk rewards..for example every 15 kills gained without dieing ina slayer suits..adds 200 k to end battle results
every 1500 wp gained in a logi suit WITHOUT dieing should do the same..
same concept could be applied to most of dust it would be nice if the logi's that score high and get kills without dieing got rewards over scrub wp harvesting types |
Bittersteel the Bastard
Hell's Gate Inc
664
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Posted - 2013.10.11 21:35:00 -
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So I see this post is still going strong. Stop encouraging Regnyum's attention-whoring. I know it's nice for him to think his opinions are relevant, but wouldn't the truth be better for him? |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
1521
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Posted - 2013.10.11 21:57:00 -
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"The space is completely fenced in and includes separate play spaces for toddlers and older children plus an open area for running or tossing a ball. The slides and climbing equipment connect into the wall, making them handicap accessible. The many large trees provide shade for a picnic or some cooling down."
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ReGnYuM
TeamPlayers EoN.
998
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Posted - 2013.10.11 21:58:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote: "The space is completely fenced in and includes separate play spaces for toddlers and older children plus an open area for running or tossing a ball. The slides and climbing equipment connect into the wall, making them handicap accessible. The many large trees provide shade for a picnic or some cooling down."
Enjoy your ban shotty
or maybe you should read the forum rules |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD
763
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Posted - 2013.10.11 22:06:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Shotty GoBang wrote: "The space is completely fenced in and includes separate play spaces for toddlers and older children plus an open area for running or tossing a ball. The slides and climbing equipment connect into the wall, making them handicap accessible. The many large trees provide shade for a picnic or some cooling down."
Enjoy your ban shotty or maybe you should read the forum rules
My interest is piqued. Do explain this in great detail. I want to know why, rule by rule; word by word, and including all admendments, and adjuctions. |
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Grimmiers
0uter.Heaven
250
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Posted - 2013.10.11 22:09:00 -
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Because the combination of a headshot, multikill, and megakillstreak sound would create a warphole in your eardrum. |
Mortedeamor
Internal Rebellion
408
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Posted - 2013.10.11 22:27:00 -
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Bittersteel the Bastard wrote:So I see this post is still going strong. Stop encouraging Regnyum's attention-whoring. I know it's nice for him to think his opinions are relevant, but wouldn't the truth be better for him? no this is a serious issue all around their needs to be rewards for those of us who full fill our roles exceptionally and go beyond the parameters of our spec. a logi who runs 28/3 with 2500 wp should be rewarded substantially more than a scrub just wp harvesting..ccp need to put in match objectives that can increase your end match results. the same said for a slayer...
i would also like a bonus at the end of the game of you win your squad an orbital if i pull 2500 wo i should get a bonus if i kill 30 people without i dieing i should get a bonus..by what i just said that would be +400k ...
if their were substantial rewards for perfection scrubs harvesting wp for their scores wouldnt matter..because position on the leaderboards wouldn't effect isk so much..sure you may not be on top but depending on what you did your payout could be high.
ccp needs to give us PROPER rewards their are people that fulfill multiple roles on the battle field that would really appreciate adequate pay for the risks they take.
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Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
1521
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Posted - 2013.10.11 22:30:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Shotty GoBang wrote: "The space is completely fenced in and includes separate play spaces for toddlers and older children plus an open area for running or tossing a ball. The slides and climbing equipment connect into the wall, making them handicap accessible. The many large trees provide shade for a picnic or some cooling down."
Enjoy your ban shotty or maybe you should read the forum rules
True Story: So i'm using my girlfriend's work phone. We're traveling and mine died. Still getting a feel for Copy / Paste. Anyway, what I wanted to paste here was totally different from what her clipboard had stored. When I read it back, I couldn't believe how well it fit. Had to share :-) |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
555
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Posted - 2013.10.11 23:01:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Honestly, the Logistic role in dust is arguably the easiest role to perform next to AV, yet this role is by far rewarded the most WP for the amount of skill required. The rate at which Logistic can passively gain SP is atrocious. When I drop a 29-0 in regular ambush, a logi player should never even be close to my WP gain. Yet, a Logi player, going 4-15, manges to be only 75 WP behind me.
Logistics are rewarded for providing:
Spawns Ammo Healing Scanning ...etc
However the Slayer/Assault ,arguably the most important role, is only rewarded for killing.
The headshot bonus was a good start, yet why I am not rewarded for the following:
-Rate at which we kill multiple targets.
-Surviving with multiple kills.
I am tired of being in the front lines taking the bullets, explosives, and mindless noobs. While a Logi sits back and passively farms WP for my efforts. I out pointed 13ear with a Logi suit while he was in his Falchion. **** your KDR and meaningless kills :D |
Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers EoN.
1291
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Posted - 2013.10.11 23:03:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Bittersteel the Bastard wrote:So I see this post is still going strong. Stop encouraging Regnyum's attention-whoring. I know it's nice for him to think his opinions are relevant, but wouldn't the truth be better for him? no this is a serious issue all around their needs to be rewards for those of us who full fill our roles exceptionally and go beyond the parameters of our spec. a logi who runs 28/3 with 2500 wp should be rewarded substantially more than a scrub just wp harvesting..ccp need to put in match objectives that can increase your end match results. the same said for a slayer... i would also like a bonus at the end of the game of you win your squad an orbital if i pull 2500 wo i should get a bonus if i kill 30 people without i dieing i should get a bonus..by what i just said that would be +400k ... if their were substantial rewards for perfection scrubs harvesting wp for their scores wouldnt matter..because position on the leaderboards wouldn't effect isk so much..sure you may not be on top but depending on what you did your payout could be high. ccp needs to give us PROPER rewards their are people that fulfill multiple roles on the battle field that would really appreciate adequate pay for the risks they take.
QFT |
Rudy Vandersario
Famous Wolf
97
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Posted - 2013.10.11 23:13:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:As a talented logistics player a really good logistics player can compete with the best slayers in kills, and yet own the **** out of the slayers on wp's. I drop 40+ kill games soloing skirmish for the Ammar, and carry the team with my first fit setting 11 proto links 2+ at each obj that carries the game for my team (cause lol blueberries being reliable dropping links) and yet I can focus all game on killing and then post scores like: AmbushAmmer FWPCAnd then blueberries send you e-peen stroking mailz like this one from when I started shaking off the rust last week. overall as a slayer logi I can fit proto links, enhanced scanner, proto hives, and an enhanced injector +1k hp at 4.6 move speed + proto duvolle and core locus. Sure it took me 22+ mill hp to get it all together but it's pretty amazing. Logi's are slayer with equips imo. there's few times me on a repping hive > an assault switching to his sidearm Just saying
It's funny (as in it's bull****) how you regularly get 40+ kills but all 3 of those pics is 22/1? Do you think 22/1 makes you some amazing killer? Because you sure talk like you are but then the stats you posted don't back it up. |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
548
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Posted - 2013.10.11 23:35:00 -
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Rorek IronBlood wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Shotty GoBang wrote: "The space is completely fenced in and includes separate play spaces for toddlers and older children plus an open area for running or tossing a ball. The slides and climbing equipment connect into the wall, making them handicap accessible. The many large trees provide shade for a picnic or some cooling down."
Enjoy your ban shotty or maybe you should read the forum rules My interest is piqued. Do explain this in great detail. I want to know why, rule by rule; word by word, and including all admendments, and adjuctions.
That's so funny! It really does go well with this thread. It's a better comeuppance for the OP than anything you might have posted that actually addresses the issue.
Look at him. Got him even more riled up. Lol. |
Funkmaster Whale
0uter.Heaven
823
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Posted - 2013.10.11 23:46:00 -
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You know I honestly couldn't give a flying **** if a Logi beats me in WP. It's games like this that **** me off more than anything.
A Logi who is throwing down ammo and uplinks is always welcome in my book. Something as arbitrary as "WP" means jack **** in the long run. It's ultimately about your own personal gain. The "rewards" for WP are borderline meaningless anyway. A handful of skill points at the end of a match doesn't justify adjusting WP gains. It's fine as it is. I'm a slayer as much as you Reg, and while I agree on some things like multi-kills as good additions to the system, we should be giving more incentives for scrubs to help the team, not the other way around. |
OZAROW
WarRavens League of Infamy
809
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Posted - 2013.10.12 00:00:00 -
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Loving seeing my notification bar have 101 new posts On this obvious " troll an pat myself on the back wit my 29/0 super slayer thread"
Proof of the TP EGO!
Good work giving your team a even more respectable image, dip$hit! |
Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers EoN.
1291
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Posted - 2013.10.12 00:03:00 -
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Rudy Vandersario wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:As a talented logistics player a really good logistics player can compete with the best slayers in kills, and yet own the **** out of the slayers on wp's. I drop 40+ kill games soloing skirmish for the Ammar, and carry the team with my first fit setting 11 proto links 2+ at each obj that carries the game for my team (cause lol blueberries being reliable dropping links) and yet I can focus all game on killing and then post scores like: AmbushAmmer FWPCAnd then blueberries send you e-peen stroking mailz like this one from when I started shaking off the rust last week. overall as a slayer logi I can fit proto links, enhanced scanner, proto hives, and an enhanced injector +1k hp at 4.6 move speed + proto duvolle and core locus. Sure it took me 22+ mill hp to get it all together but it's pretty amazing. Logi's are slayer with equips imo. there's few times me on a repping hive > an assault switching to his sidearm Just saying It's funny (as in it's bull****) how you regularly get 40+ kills but all 3 of those pics is 22/1? Do you think 22/1 makes you some amazing killer? Because you sure talk like you are but then the stats you posted don't back it up.
Umm...lol? Pic 1 is a 22/1 of 80 kill ambush, solo. Pic 2 IS a 42 kill game I got recently, pic 3 is me topping the leaderboards as a logi while still killing 18/6 against traky, la flash and wtf...mvp in addition to killing more than everyone else on my team I think.
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