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ReGnYuM
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.10.11 04:54:00 -
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Derek Barnes wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Alldin Kan wrote:How to gain easy WP as logi: 1. Go to Skirmish or Ambush OMS 2. Be in bad team 3. Spam uplinks and both types of Nanohives, injectors still welcome 4. ???? 5. Profit Trust me this works, I did it on Chromosome in a Min Logi and got 2000+ WP real fast. Dust Jesus has spoken I see him as more of a cookieclicker god
His miracles transcend to many many games |
Alldin Kan
TeamPlayers EoN.
667
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Posted - 2013.10.11 04:54:00 -
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Eyemakerwet wrote:Alldin Kan wrote:How to gain easy WP as logi: 1. Go to Skirmish or Ambush OMS 2. Be in bad team 3. Spam uplinks and both types of Nanohives, injectors still welcome 4. ???? 5. Profit Trust me this works, I did it on Chromosome in a Min Logi and got 2000+ WP real fast. seen and fully support this tactic. Matchmaking can be a beach. Hmm... What if I use a logi LAV as protection while I keep reviving my team as they die repeatedly next to uplinks as nanohives? Would this be considered an exploit? Would the enemy stop shooting me? |
Alldin Kan
TeamPlayers EoN.
667
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Posted - 2013.10.11 04:57:00 -
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Derek Barnes wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Alldin Kan wrote:How to gain easy WP as logi: 1. Go to Skirmish or Ambush OMS 2. Be in bad team 3. Spam uplinks and both types of Nanohives, injectors still welcome 4. ???? 5. Profit Trust me this works, I did it on Chromosome in a Min Logi and got 2000+ WP real fast. Dust Jesus has spoken I see him as more of a cookieclicker god Can't stop the Alldin train... |
Eyemakerwet
R 0 N 1 N
79
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Posted - 2013.10.11 04:59:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:Eyemakerwet wrote:Alldin Kan wrote:How to gain easy WP as logi: 1. Go to Skirmish or Ambush OMS 2. Be in bad team 3. Spam uplinks and both types of Nanohives, injectors still welcome 4. ???? 5. Profit Trust me this works, I did it on Chromosome in a Min Logi and got 2000+ WP real fast. seen and fully support this tactic. Matchmaking can be a beach. Hmm... What if I use a logi LAV as protection while I keep reviving my team as they die repeatedly next to uplinks as nanohives? Would this be considered an exploit? Would the enemy stop shooting me?
Dirty
Edit: to answer the question... not as much sn exploit as it is funny. Btw it helps the slayer on the other side |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
6866
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Posted - 2013.10.11 05:00:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:Eyemakerwet wrote:Alldin Kan wrote:How to gain easy WP as logi: 1. Go to Skirmish or Ambush OMS 2. Be in bad team 3. Spam uplinks and both types of Nanohives, injectors still welcome 4. ???? 5. Profit Trust me this works, I did it on Chromosome in a Min Logi and got 2000+ WP real fast. seen and fully support this tactic. Matchmaking can be a beach. Hmm... What if I use a logi LAV as protection while I keep reviving my team as they die repeatedly next to uplinks as nanohives? Would this be considered an exploit? Would the enemy stop shooting me? I'd steal it and run you over in it
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Rei Shepard
Spectre II
673
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Posted - 2013.10.11 05:01:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Honestly, the Logistic role in dust is arguably the easiest role to perform next to AV, yet this role is by far rewarded the most WP for the amount of skill required. The rate at which Logistic can passively gain SP is atrocious. When I drop a 29-0 in regular ambush, a logi player should never even be close to my WP gain. Yet, a Logi player, going 4-15, manges to be only 75 WP behind me.
Logistics are rewarded for providing:
Spawns Ammo Healing Scanning ...etc
However the Slayer/Assault ,arguably the most important role, is only rewarded for killing.
The headshot bonus was a good start, yet why I am not rewarded for the following:
-Rate at which we kill multiple targets.
-Surviving with multiple kills.
I am tired of being in the front lines taking the bullets, explosives, and mindless noobs. While a Logi sits back and passively farms WP for my efforts.
I wouldnt mind a DdddddOUBLE KILL...TRRRIIIIPPPLLEEEE KILL etc msg with increased wp if they happen shortly between :p
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Alldin Kan
TeamPlayers EoN.
667
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Posted - 2013.10.11 05:02:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Alldin Kan wrote:Eyemakerwet wrote:Alldin Kan wrote:How to gain easy WP as logi: 1. Go to Skirmish or Ambush OMS 2. Be in bad team 3. Spam uplinks and both types of Nanohives, injectors still welcome 4. ???? 5. Profit Trust me this works, I did it on Chromosome in a Min Logi and got 2000+ WP real fast. seen and fully support this tactic. Matchmaking can be a beach. Hmm... What if I use a logi LAV as protection while I keep reviving my team as they die repeatedly next to uplinks as nanohives? Would this be considered an exploit? Would the enemy stop shooting me? I'd steal it and run you over in it Explosives were already placed on my LAV, a Logi always gets protection. |
DildoMcnutz
Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse
267
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Posted - 2013.10.11 05:07:00 -
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So the points earned via logisitics would be
team resupply: 10 points for every one who gets ammo from your hive, seems fair enough to me, resupplying 5 people is the same points as killing one enemy.
revive: 60 points for picking someone up, little more than a kill but essentially negates that kill so I don't have a problem with it.
triage: this im not to sure how it works via nanohives but its 25 points per a set amount of armour repaired via the tool iirc. Its seems fair as it is capped and your taking a gun off the field to do so (if repairing under fire rather than after combat) but I do remember a game of skirmish were all my friend did was follow me round the map with a tool glued to my back, I only went something like 23/0 but he had far more WP than I did haha
guardian: dunno what the points are for this but if someone gets a kill whilst you are repping them you gets points, kinda bullcrap imo seeing as your getting points for the repair and I know of one logi who would just swap between members of the squad as we got kills to get the guardian points even if they were not under fire/damaged lol.
Team spawn: points for someone using your uplink, all good with me but 25 points seems like a little too much to me, all you did was throw it on the floor were hopefully someone cant find it and then forget about it. They are incredibly useful but I feel like 25 points is just a bit too much.
Scanner: not sure how it works as far as WP concerned, someone else can comment, something like 15 points if a team mate kills someone you scan? This feels like too much to me aswell but it isn't too bad.
These are all I could remember in my sleepy half assed post but the only real thing I don't like is how many points you can rack up off of uplinks, a logi out earning me in WP really doesn't bother me tbh. |
Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1001
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Posted - 2013.10.11 05:17:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:True Adamance wrote:
But using Swarm, Forge, AV Nade is even easier and don't even try to deny it. Fire and forget weapons.....
Nope , using AV is not Equally easy since you have to have into consideration a lot of stuff , like terrain,having height advantage, that the tank doesnt see you , teamwork,etcetc.. Using an AR is just stack 2-3 Cx Damage mods, aim in general direction and hold r1. 50+50+50+50....I even Dropped a Hurt Dropship with a GEK.LOL Tankers exagerate and QQ a lot more than necessary, dont try to deny it ;) AV is easy. |
DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
26
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Posted - 2013.10.11 05:23:00 -
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Alldin you still dusting? Damn you and regnyum are dedicated |
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1001
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Posted - 2013.10.11 05:35:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Captain Crutches wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Logistics are rewarded for providing:
Spawns Ammo Healing Scanning ...etc Because that is their job. ReGnYuM wrote:However the Slayer/Assault ,arguably the most important role, is only rewarded for killing. Because that is their job. You went 29-0 and got a ton of WP from killing. Logibro went 4-15 and made up for it by getting a ton of WP from logi-ing. Working as intended. Firstly, there is really nothing stopping a Logi from slaying semi what effectively. He has a primary. However, what's stopping from dropping equipment and passively farming WP is the amount of equipment I can carry. Why is the Logi allowed to double dip in WP gain, but I cant. The advantage I have is my sidearm. Therefore, I can kill multiple targets faster than a Logi. My speed makes me faster and allows me to survive longer. So why can't I be reward for surviving with kills, and the speed at which I kill Because you're not actively helping your team with ammo, reps, forward spawn points, and scanning. Do you even squad up? |
Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1001
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Posted - 2013.10.11 05:44:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Honestly, the Logistic role in dust is arguably the easiest role to perform next to AV, yet this role is by far rewarded the most WP for the amount of skill required. The rate at which Logistic can passively gain SP is atrocious. When I drop a 29-0 in regular ambush, a logi player should never even be close to my WP gain. Yet, a Logi player, going 4-15, manges to be only 75 WP behind me.
Logistics are rewarded for providing:
Spawns Ammo Healing Scanning ...etc
However the Slayer/Assault ,arguably the most important role, is only rewarded for killing.
The headshot bonus was a good start, yet why I am not rewarded for the following:
-Rate at which we kill multiple targets.
-Surviving with multiple kills.
I am tired of being in the front lines taking the bullets, explosives, and mindless noobs. While a Logi sits back and passively farms WP for my efforts. Lol do another ambush without any ammo supplied by a logi or depot, an we ll see if ur still complaining I often have to do all that myself. Put down a ton of uplinks, ammo in a good spot, then if there's an enemy tank, forge it myself. |
Buzzwords
Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION
481
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Posted - 2013.10.11 05:47:00 -
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because nobody wants to do it.
and i don't just mean in dust, i mean in any game that has ever featured "classes" nobody ever wants to play support, everybody wants the spotlight.
so pay them. |
XxWarlordxX97
Ancient Exiles
4692
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Posted - 2013.10.11 05:49:00 -
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Buzzwords wrote:because nobody wants to do it.
and i don't just mean in dust, i mean in any game that has ever featured "classes" nobody ever wants to play support, everybody wants the spotlight.
so pay them.
I play heavy when do I get a spotlight |
Mregomies
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
59
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Posted - 2013.10.11 05:51:00 -
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You all are sillybob's I scan/rep/supply squad/team and still kill tons of enemys with my duvolle/krin's/balac's and get rewarted lots of wp. Spec in to something you like and run to the hotzone... OP should stop butthurting and start enjoying the game. See you all in the field tonight! |
XxWarlordxX97
Ancient Exiles
4692
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Posted - 2013.10.11 05:53:00 -
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Mregomies wrote:You all are sillybob's I scan/rep/supply squad/team and still kill tons of enemys with my duvolle/krin's/balac's and get rewarted lots of wp. Spec in to something you like and run to the hotzone... OP should stop butthurting and start enjoying the game. See you all in the field tonight!
So core nades and nanos, I'm a heavy |
Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1001
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Posted - 2013.10.11 05:56:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:They are an easy role
But go hate something else. Team with Logis wins and you know that. They are in high demand, and according to the laws of Supply and Demand, they will be handsomely rewarded for what they do (help win). Really so a team of Logi would beat of slayers in PC? Anyways heres my question to real PC players What would you want more in PC team The greatest slayer in the game or the greatest Logi I know who I would choose Logis, duh. Just have them pull out the assault logi fit. Ammo, Droplinks, Scanners, AND more HP then an Assault. Make post like that again, without thinking, and I will personally run your entire corp out of PC for a month. I respect University for somewhat trying to educate the masses. However, my tolerance for ignorance only goes so far. Tread lightly little merc... LOL Who are you to threaten an entire corp because of what one guy said? You'll single-handedly fight them in PC after PC battle to take away all their districts? |
pyramidhead 420
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
84
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Posted - 2013.10.11 05:56:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Honestly, the Logistic role in dust is arguably the easiest role to perform next to AV, yet this role is by far rewarded the most WP for the amount of skill required. The rate at which Logistic can passively gain SP is atrocious. When I drop a 29-0 in regular ambush, a logi player should never even be close to my WP gain. Yet, a Logi player, going 4-15, manges to be only 75 WP behind me.
Logistics are rewarded for providing:
Spawns Ammo Healing Scanning ...etc
However the Slayer/Assault ,arguably the most important role, is only rewarded for killing.
The headshot bonus was a good start, yet why I am not rewarded for the following:
-Rate at which we kill multiple targets.
-Surviving with multiple kills.
I am tired of being in the front lines taking the bullets, explosives, and mindless noobs. While a Logi sits back and passively farms WP for my efforts. wow, is this 14 year old serious? i guess your all pumped up cod:ghost is comin' out soon, so you're looking for a fight? |
Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1001
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Posted - 2013.10.11 05:58:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Honestly, the Logistic role in dust is arguably the easiest role to perform next to AV, yet this role is by far rewarded the most WP for the amount of skill required. The rate at which Logistic can passively gain SP is atrocious. When I drop a 29-0 in regular ambush, a logi player should never even be close to my WP gain. Yet, a Logi player, going 4-15, manges to be only 75 WP behind me.
Logistics are rewarded for providing:
Spawns Ammo Healing Scanning ...etc
However the Slayer/Assault ,arguably the most important role, is only rewarded for killing.
The headshot bonus was a good start, yet why I am not rewarded for the following:
-Rate at which we kill multiple targets.
-Surviving with multiple kills.
I am tired of being in the front lines taking the bullets, explosives, and mindless noobs. While a Logi sits back and passively farms WP for my efforts. Why are you angry at someone that's helping the team, while all you're doing is killing? Spkr come man lets not play this game dude. Me dropping 29-0 in 50 kill game is not helping.. eh. All I want to see is young fresh killers to specialize in assaults suits, and not be forced to go Logi for easy WP. That's best done on Call of Duty, where there aren't any roles to worry about. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
576
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Posted - 2013.10.11 05:59:00 -
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wait.....
I thought pub stomping was easymodding.... I guess I am not keeping up with the times. |
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Spectral Clone
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
241
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Posted - 2013.10.11 06:03:00 -
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Instant gratification here we go again! |
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Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
428
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Posted - 2013.10.11 06:18:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Honestly, the Logistic role in dust is arguably the easiest role to perform next to AV, yet this role is by far rewarded the most WP for the amount of skill required. The rate at which Logistic can passively gain SP is atrocious. When I drop a 29-0 in regular ambush, a logi player should never even be close to my WP gain. Yet, a Logi player, going 4-15, manges to be only 75 WP behind me.
Logistics are rewarded for providing:
Spawns Ammo Healing Scanning ...etc
However the Slayer/Assault ,arguably the most important role, is only rewarded for killing.
The headshot bonus was a good start, yet why I am not rewarded for the following:
-Rate at which we kill multiple targets.
-Surviving with multiple kills.
I am tired of being in the front lines taking the bullets, explosives, and mindless noobs. While a Logi sits back and passively farms WP for my efforts. wow this coming from an ambush scrub
you have played since open beta yes? but I bet you have never even attempted to hack an objective |
Racro 01 Arifistan
The Surrogates Of War
53
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Posted - 2013.10.11 06:32:00 -
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Roofer Madness wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Actually, as much as I disagree with his view towards Logistics it would actually be cool if we got more points for surviving and killing longer as assaults. I think they should reward kill streaks for sure.
if kill streaks were rewared then there would be a tank ageddon. if you know what youre doing 9and attempt to avoid all AV possible) you can make easy kill streaks. |
KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
1228
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Posted - 2013.10.11 10:32:00 -
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For the record, I have proto suits, both assault and logi and all equipment and weapons at proto level asweell.
To try and answer all at once:
1. Most Logi players seems to think that assault players need the backup of a logi, in most cases this simply isn't true. A shield tanked assault woth a nanohive is more or less self sufficient. When I run my assault suit, I don't expect or need anything from the Logibros, they're mostly annoying when they try to repair my shield tanked suit....
2. When I run as a logi I normally use upljnks, hives and a scanner, I can easily rack up loads of WPs for no real effort, and thats without even carrying a needle and a repper. Its EZ-mode in terms of WP gain.
3. Some are still delusional and claims that the logi suits are better for the slayer role than the assault suits are, this is not so. This claim mostly seem to come from terrible assault players that QQ when they get owned by a logi. I have yet to meet a player which have both suits at proto level make this claim.
4. Hearing some of the dudes here, even the experienced ones that should know better saying: "I help out the team, while all you're doing is shooting people in the face", well, it makes me sad. When a player goes 29-0 in a gamemode that needs 50 kills for the win, he's probably more or less carrying the entire team to victory, we're talking ambush here.
5. I do get more kills on average with my assault fit, this is mostly due to speed. Well, and the sidearm. Its the speed and stamina of the suit, its the faster speed of the shield regen and to a small degree the strafe speed. Scanning for my squad takes up a lot of timeactually. So if I get 20 kills in the assult suit I'd probably get 15 kills with logi suit, and about twice or more WPs earned due to casually tossing some uplinks here and there....
6. Why do you even care Corruption? Let the scrubs get their silly amount of WPs so they're deluded to think they matter enough to keep playing the game feeding my ego and yours with more easy kills.... |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
670
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Posted - 2013.10.11 11:08:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Derek Barnes wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Honestly, the Logistic role in dust is arguably the easiest role to perform next to AV, yet this role is by far rewarded the most WP for the amount of skill required. The rate at which Logistic can passively gain SP is atrocious. When I drop a 29-0 in regular ambush, a logi player should never even be close to my WP gain. Yet, a Logi player, going 4-15, manges to be only 75 WP behind me.
Logistics are rewarded for providing:
Spawns Ammo Healing Scanning ...etc
However the Slayer/Assault ,arguably the most important role, is only rewarded for killing.
The headshot bonus was a good start, yet why I am not rewarded for the following:
-Rate at which we kill multiple targets.
-Surviving with multiple kills.
I am tired of being in the front lines taking the bullets, explosives, and mindless noobs. While a Logi sits back and passively farms WP for my efforts. You do realize that the spawns they are throwing, the ammo they are tossing, the healing they are giving, the scanning they are doing and etc. are what is helping you kill more right? 1. I hardly die in ambush why would I need spawns links, and I would never spawn on a random uplink. 2. I carry my own ammo 3. I shield tank, why would I want reps So again, tell me how the Logi is helping me win? yeah because aim assisted point and shoot is really hard to do, right? beside that, you get less WP because you decided to run alone, self sufficent and not to care about anyone else.
instead, carry an injector/scanner/triage hive and help your teammates out. if you are that good, then it should not be a problem to kill and get some extra WP by helping your team at the same time. let the logis do the ammo supply. additionally, no one stops you from getting into a logi suit and set up uplinks at the beginning of the match and then switch to your assault suit.
oh and btw, the better your team is compared to the opposition the less WP logis get. logis get less important when you are starting to win/stomp.
Captain Crutches wrote:Let me put this another way.
In EVE, logistics ships carry no weapons. Maybe a some light combat drones to ***** on killmails, but nothing that would make a difference in the overall DPS of the fleet. They are stocked full of repair tools, their sole purpose is to keep their fleetmates alive, to the point where corps/alliances that reimburse ship losses may refuse to reimburse a logi pilot if he had a gun fitted.
Without a sufficient number of them, fleets don't leave.
Battles have been won because the logistics of one side were able to keep their reps focused and coordinated enough to hold their friends against enemy damage, or lost because there wasn't enough and the enemy chewed through a "slayer" heavy fleet like paper.
Doesn't it make sense that Dust would follow a similar principle? It's about far more than just shooting the other guy in the face, and I'd take one skilled logibro over a whole squad of average slayers in any match. the difference is, logi ships in eve are tough and hard to take out even with concentrated fire, especially because they can spider tank very efficiently, a pack of logi ships can sustain their hp for very long time on themself through concentrated fire. . they also have HUGE ranges on shield transporters and remote armor repairers, they dont need to sit next to high DPS close range weaponry.
logi in dust sits right next to you and suffers from the same beating as you do. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2737
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Posted - 2013.10.11 11:11:00 -
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When I read the title I thought you were talking about assault. Come on, assault is really darn easy. Point and shoot, the only factors you have to worry about are your health and the enemies.
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pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
1148
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Posted - 2013.10.11 11:33:00 -
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Ahhhh more ar but hurt because another player is abetter logi than you are assault or ass..ault .. logis deserver more credit for their invaluable work. |
godhands9
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
92
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Posted - 2013.10.11 11:37:00 -
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Dude....You can go into a game drop nanohives and uplinks and get more WP than most people shooting. You can even go rubberband your controller,and just watch the points rack.Which is really funny. |
Repe Susi
Rautaleijona Top Men.
700
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Posted - 2013.10.11 11:46:00 -
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godhands9 wrote:Dude....You can go into a game drop nanohives and uplinks and get more WP than most people shooting. You can even go rubberband your controller,and just watch the points rack.Which is really funny.
Which shouldn't be a problem since KDR > Everything else, right? Right? |
Dust Junky 4Life
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
30
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Posted - 2013.10.11 11:54:00 -
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2 words: hazard pay |
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