I was going to buy another merc pack this afternoon but this is a much, much better idea.

On behalf of Hellstorm, I wish QG and his family the best. The Dust community is pulling for you!

i've already donated, and we're trying to keep the links relevant with updates but we haven't heard anything since yesterday.

another donation link is set up here.

http://www.youcaring.com/medical-fundraiser/help-with-baby-weston-s-medical-expenses/92940

Blue tagging this for visibility. o7 Quickgloves

On behalf of Bullet Cluster Gaming, our thoughts and prayers are with QG and his family.

A donation is on the way, and I will be sharing with the rest of the corp so those that have a little to spare can help out as well.

Too slow again bro XD.

*runs from falling LAVS*

I replied on behalf of us all - you were selfish and replied on your own behalf. Shame, Cody, shame. I guess this is why I am the ambassador and not you...

In seriousness though - QG deserves the attention! KEEP BUMPING THE THREAD EVERYONE!

Fudge I forgot about your diplomatic responsibility...strange how I posted before you...very strange indeed...

I have a job. That pays money. I don't sit on the forums all day - just most of it.

As a father of one (with another on the way), I have been in this situation before. My son was born at 25 weeks and 2 days, roughly 4 months early. He weighed 1 lb 6 oz and was 12 inches long. He was helpless and as a father, I felt the same. It takes a toll on you emotionally, as your child's life, a life you feel obligated to protect at all costs, is not in your hands. I know exactly what he is experiencing all too well. I visited my son every morning, every lunch break and every night, sometimes sleeping there. I just wanted him to know I was there. He fought everyday and I was going to do the same. He is doing well, extremely intelligent and will be turning 6 in February. He is perfectly healthy and only has a small scar on his back from when he had heart surgery. Miracles do happen.

People, give whatever you can. Dollars and cents add up and you get to be a part of something bigger than yourself. Someone needs our help and our support and video games is a fanatstic avenue because you meet so many people doing so.

Donated. On Behalf of 843, our thoughts and prayers for his boy to fight harder.

Actually a great sight to see everyone putting their differences aside and helping out.

UPDATE FROM QUICKGLOVES
Update 14: Today Weston has had three major things done. First was the Transfer from one form of ventilator to another. He is currently unable to breath on his own due to the amounts of morphine that he is receiving.

Secondly they transferred a line from his stomach to his arm to in order to give him more nutrients. They attempted to give him a pick line which will go directly to his heart, but they were unsuccessful.

Third thing is currently going on as I write this. They are giving my son a spinal Tap. I am very nervous about this. Terrified is a better word. In hope the doctors want to test for meningitis. They want it to come back negative so they don't have to treat as long with antibiotics. The longer they treat for infection the less nutrition Wes is getting. THe sooner they can stop treatment for infection the faster they can give him what he needs.

His kidneys are still not showing improvement but he is still able to control dangerous levels in his blood without much support. He is swollen with edema still because he isn't urinating properly.

I have to now show my thanks to all of you. I have seen 2 charity collections for my family. As it stands Mandy an I are out of work to be with are son. He could be here for months an I would not care. The fact that you have all come to support us with prayers an thoughts was good enough for me. Now you have all reached into your hearts an sent physical support. The money that you have collected is going to support are stay in Philadelphia so we can be here for are son. I tearfully thank you all.

I am working with agencies to postpone collections on many bills due to the current state of things an all your help is so appreciated.

SVER you guys are showing the world why we say we are family. Video gamers around the world are chastised day in an day out for being outcast or socially awkward. You who may have never met me or been an enemy in a online world have shown tremendous support to us. The flowers the money the gifts. We are the Brotherhood. I love you guys. An to all the dusties reaching out TY.

To my family an friends You have seen us in are lowest hour an worked to keep us hopeful. Everyday that passes is a day We cherish. Every moment i have to look at my son is a moment i would never trade. Weston does not know how fortunate he is to have such a family in real life or in the online gaming world. Thousands of you have messaged me with prayers an wishes, support an love. I never imagined this much support. I hope that Weston's story touches lives of people that see this years from now. Every birthday Wes has I will re-read all of this. As each day goes my hope grows.

As each moment passes my breathing grows steady. My family is in a very rough spot, but with all of you helping us an sending us rays of hope an prayers full of love this journey is by no means easy but you are all making it a lot smoother.

With a most sincere appreciation My family Thanks you so much!

I wanna cry. I really do.

Sent what I could. Im a poor grad student.

Best of luck Quick, PHI is praying for your family!

he is moving around a bit but still so swollen that I imagine its a bit painful. Keep it up Wes open up those tiny little eyes an see the world we are praying so hard for you to be apart of!

Wes -

We have never met, those of us here on these forums. We play a game together, and against each other. But today, today we are all united in our thoughts to you.

You are the future, and we know you are fighting for something more important than we ever could.

You may not be old enough yet to read these words for yourself, but your heart hears our hearts. Take our strength, as much as you need.

We have never met, but you are family, now and always.

God bless, and god speed on your road to recovery.

Quickgloves, the CEO of SVER TRUE BLOOD, welcomed his son into the world recently. However there have been severe complications resulting in 13 blood transfusions at this point.

This was mentioned in a thread in the War Room with a link to his Facebook page. I went to Quickgloves Facebook page and read some of the updates on his son. As a father of two I wanted to try and help out. I reached out to him and found one of his friends from STB on Facebook. They've set up a fundraiser to help with medical bills and lodging for Quickgloves and his family (his son is in a Children's Hospital 30 hours from their home).

I'm going to donate some money to help out and I wanted to post a link to the fundraiser because I'm sure others will want to help as well.

Support for Quickgloves and his family

Also do they know what exactly is happening to the kid? Like is it a disease or infection or what? Just curious.

No idea if this helps you but my wife is from Philly originally and mentioned that The Ronald McDonald House at Chestnut Street in Philly houses families whose kids are in CHOP.

http://www.philarmh.org/our-programs/chestnut-street-house/

No idea if this helps you but my wife is from Philly originally and mentioned that The Ronald McDonald House at Chestnut Street in Philly houses families whose kids are in CHOP.

http://www.philarmh.org/our-programs/chestnut-street-house/

You guys are fuc.king great. Thank you so much for all your support for Weston and his parents.

I no a lot of people dislike STB but thanks everyone for helping QG little Weston is a fighter thanks guys

Well Lurch, I can't hold it against the kid just because his dad runs with a bunch of good for nothings like you!

Well Lurch, I can't hold it against the kid just because his dad runs with a bunch of good for nothings like you!

Quickgloves, the CEO of SVER TRUE BLOOD, welcomed his son into the world recently. However there have been severe complications resulting in 13 blood transfusions at this point.

This was mentioned in a thread in the War Room with a link to his Facebook page. I went to Quickgloves Facebook page and read some of the updates on his son. As a father of two I wanted to try and help out. I reached out to him and found one of his friends from STB on Facebook. They've set up a fundraiser to help with medical bills and lodging for Quickgloves and his family (his son is in a Children's Hospital 30 hours from their home).

I'm going to donate some money to help out and I wanted to post a link to the fundraiser because I'm sure others will want to help as well.

Support for Quickgloves and his family

you taught me how to eve. so what does that make you?
BTW, Phantom & Faydakin Eren say hi

seriously though, the community is awesome, it's amazing to see you all come together. <3

you have got to be ******* kidding me.

Will donate when next salary comes at 15th.

I hope Weston gets well and stong.

Is this a joke?
The baby needs to die, it's not going to have any quality of life if it survives the battery of medical problems it's had
And the fact people are are stupid enough to actually give this guy money?

wow, just wow.

Is this a joke?
The baby needs to die, it's not going to have any quality of life if it survives the battery of medical problems it's had
And the fact people are are stupid enough to actually give this guy money?

wow, just wow.

I pray you never have to experience the ironic pain of suffering what Quick, Mandy, and Weston are going through after saying that.

You should take a good hard look at yourself and if you aren't disappointed in what you have just posted then you lack integrity and moral compass.

You don't even have the balls to post on your main character.

What kind of person are you to wish a newborn baby you have never met harm?

I pray you never have to experience the ironic pain of suffering what Quick, Mandy, and Weston are going through after saying that.

You should take a good hard look at yourself and if you aren't disappointed in what you have just posted then you lack integrity and moral compass.

You don't even have the balls to post on your main character.

What kind of person are you to wish a newborn baby you have never met harm?

Is this a joke?
The baby needs to die, it's not going to have any quality of life if it survives the battery of medical problems it's had
And the fact people are are stupid enough to actually give this guy money?

wow, just wow.

Is this a joke?
The baby needs to die, it's not going to have any quality of life if it survives the battery of medical problems it's had
And the fact people are are stupid enough to actually give this guy money?

wow, just wow.

tht is really low. i mean tht's a new low even for you.

Is this a joke?
The baby needs to die, it's not going to have any quality of life if it survives the battery of medical problems it's had
And the fact people are are stupid enough to actually give this guy money?

wow, just wow.

Is this a joke?
The baby needs to die, it's not going to have any quality of life if it survives the battery of medical problems it's had
And the fact people are are stupid enough to actually give this guy money?

wow, just wow.

You are an f'ing scumbag. This is someone's child, not a pet hamster.

Is this a joke?
The baby needs to die, it's not going to have any quality of life if it survives the battery of medical problems it's had
And the fact people are are stupid enough to actually give this guy money?

wow, just wow.

what's the difference?

Who are you to put more importance towards one life versus another?

THIS CHILD IS BEING PUMPED FULL OF MORPHINE AND IS SO SWOLLEN THEY CAN'T EVEN FIND HIS SPINE

YOU ARE PERPETUATING HIS SUFFERING BY DONATING MONEY

EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED

I'd have put the kid out of his misery by now. I mean pumping a new born full of morphine to keep it alive? can't take a spinal tap from all the swelling?

It's more inhumane to let the thing live than it is to put it out of it's misery....and you people are giving him money for this?

i hope you can sleep at night, knowing you're perpetuating the suffering of a new born baby

I'd gladly post on my main had CCP not banned me for exposing their ineptitude.

DUDE WTF is your problem? If you were QG and in such a dire situation wouldn't you want as much funding as possible? What if that was your newborn child. I've met some pretty stupid people but never In my entire life have I ever met such a cruel, ignorant person such as yourself.

Hey can we get a CCP Employee to review this? Because I believe that this is grounds for a perma-ban.

Please explain to me how i'm wrong other than "WAAAAH, MY FEELINGS?"

This child needs to be put out of it's misery.

Furthermore, all that money is probably going straight into his pockets, it probably cost QG 2,000 dollars to even walk through the front door of the hospital


you're all gullible children, and I'll be back to say "I told you so" when the kid dies/is deformed/has no quality of life from this fiasco.


Sorry you're all too young to set aside your feelings and look at this objectively, but that's not my problem.

Please explain to me how i'm wrong other than "WAAAAH, MY FEELINGS?"
.

Please explain to me how i'm wrong other than "WAAAAH, MY FEELINGS?"

This child needs to be put out of it's misery.

Furthermore, all that money is probably going straight into his pockets, it probably cost QG 2,000 dollars to even walk through the front door of the hospital


you're all gullible children, and I'll be back to say "I told you so" when the kid dies/is deformed/has no quality of life from this fiasco.


Sorry you're all too young to set aside your feelings and look at this objectively, but that's not my problem.

Is this a joke?
The baby needs to die, it's not going to have any quality of life if it survives the battery of medical problems it's had
And the fact people are are stupid enough to actually give this guy money?

wow, just wow.

what's the difference?

Who are you to put more importance towards one life versus another?

THIS CHILD IS BEING PUMPED FULL OF MORPHINE AND IS SO SWOLLEN THEY CAN'T EVEN FIND HIS SPINE

YOU ARE PERPETUATING HIS SUFFERING BY DONATING MONEY

EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED

[Sociopathic Drivel]

So, by your logic any child born with a disability should be euthanized immediately.

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Secondarily, posts by this author stand in violation of Rules of Conduct 10 and 27.

I strongly urge a moderator to remove referenced obscenity and any/all quotes which may perpetuate its violation of Community and permitted Conduct.

Yes, absolutely. Think of the money society would save not having to pay their medical bills, conform to their standards (i.e. laws mandating ramps, demanding everywhere is "handicap accessible", etc.), reduce a good chunk of the world's population and thus saving on food, water, electricity, etc. etc. etc.

the world would be a better place and you cannot possibly deny this.

you can't tell me from an objective standpoint the euthanization of disabled children isn't a great idea.


It's just like "humanitarian aid" for starving kids in africa

now instead of 20 starving kids in africa, there's 20,000 starving kids in africa...all in the name of help. 20,000 more souls that are suffering every single day because people think they're "helping" them

why can't people accept the fact that a lot of these cases are better off dead? that's the humane thing to do.

Yes, absolutely. Think of the money society would save not having to pay their medical bills, conform to their standards (i.e. laws mandating ramps, demanding everywhere is "handicap accessible", etc.), reduce a good chunk of the world's population and thus saving on food, water, electricity, etc. etc. etc.

the world would be a better place and you cannot possibly deny this.

you can't tell me from an objective standpoint the euthanization of disabled children isn't a great idea.


It's just like "humanitarian aid" for starving kids in africa

now instead of 20 starving kids in africa, there's 20,000 starving kids in africa...all in the name of help. 20,000 more souls that are suffering every single day because people think they're "helping" them

why can't people accept the fact that a lot of these cases are better off dead? that's the humane thing to do.

what's the difference?

Who are you to put more importance towards one life versus another?
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Yes, absolutely. Think of the money society would save not having to pay their medical bills, conform to their standards (i.e. laws mandating ramps, demanding everywhere is "handicap accessible", etc.), reduce a good chunk of the world's population and thus saving on food, water, electricity, etc. etc. etc.

the world would be a better place and you cannot possibly deny this.

you can't tell me from an objective standpoint the euthanization of disabled children isn't a great idea.


It's just like "humanitarian aid" for starving kids in africa

now instead of 20 starving kids in africa, there's 20,000 starving kids in africa...all in the name of help. 20,000 more souls that are suffering every single day because people think they're "helping" them

why can't people accept the fact that a lot of these cases are better off dead? that's the humane thing to do.

Yeah, our world would be so much better without disabled people... because they cant accomplish anything

Albert Einstein - Could not speak until he was 3 and had a learning disability.

FDR - Had Polio but went on to be one of the greatest presidents in US history. Was elected to 4 terms.

Lord Byron - Had a club foot

Stephen Hawkings - Yeah, he hasnt done anything

John Forbes Nash - Schizophrenia... might know him from A Beautiful Mind

What was your argument again?

I really couldn't care less about the facts, everyone here is no better than the keyboard activists on facebook


"LEL I DONATED 5 BUX TO A DEAD BABY AREN'T I A GOOD PERSON????????" is what this thread boils down to. furthermore I couldn't care less if my posts aren't sugar coated enough for the general populace, maybe reading some hard truth will open their eyes?


The right thing to do would be to put it out of it's misery. This is the second time this has happened to QG too, regnyum made fun of it the first time, and since he's not here, I'll take his place for the second round.

If you see a small animal mangled and twisted, are you going to leave it there to suffer, or are you going to end it's suffering by snapping his neck?

Do the right thing.

Niether, I'm gonna go call for help so that it may be nursed back to health.

Please explain to me how i'm wrong other than "WAAAAH, MY FEELINGS?"

This child needs to be put out of it's misery.

Furthermore, all that money is probably going straight into his pockets, it probably cost QG 2,000 dollars to even walk through the front door of the hospital


you're all gullible children, and I'll be back to say "I told you so" when the kid dies/is deformed/has no quality of life from this fiasco.


Sorry you're all too young to set aside your feelings and look at this objectively, but that's not my problem.

Please explain to me how i'm wrong other than "WAAAAH, MY FEELINGS?"

This child needs to be put out of it's misery.

Furthermore, all that money is probably going straight into his pockets, it probably cost QG 2,000 dollars to even walk through the front door of the hospital


you're all gullible children, and I'll be back to say "I told you so" when the kid dies/is deformed/has no quality of life from this fiasco.


Sorry you're all too young to set aside your feelings and look at this objectively, but that's not my problem.

Can i come to your house and beat the living sh*t out of you, you n*zi sadistic f*ck? okay? thanks


OOOOOOON SECOND thought .... I think the father of this son should get your f*cking address and beat you himself... anybody agree?

How can we help If we aren't in a position where we can donate .. i want to support somehow

Update 16 : 10/5 7:18 pm

Weston was doing well for about 36 hours. He had been switched successfully from an oscillator to a ventilator. His morphine drip was reduced an he began to move again. His counts were also holding steady. This morning his labs were not the best. He had to have yet another transfusion. His 14th to be exact. They began to change his anti-biotic. They want to try an give him more nutrition, but are unable to because his kidneys are still not working properly an the amount of anti-biotic is keeping the doctors hands bound because of his fluid limit.

Now I am no man of false hope I fully understand Weston is sick. However I feel that I must share with you the few moments of joy that I share with Mandy an Weston in the days that we spend together.

Today Weston was moving an trying to open his eyes. He was fighting his battle an I could see it as I stared down at him. Every move he made you could see his tenacity. He actually managed to breath over the ventilator a few times today. Every beep that machine made was like a surge of energy for Mandy and I. A sign of hope way off in the distance.

Mandy an I were blessed with the support of are cousins today. They stood by us these last 2 days giving us support through love an comedy. You guys kept us focused on the good things. An we thank you for being here.

A women came to Mandy an I at the hospital the other day. She offered words of encouragement. she handed Mandy and I a Guardian angel medal an a prayer. Mandy an I have been praying to Weston's guardian angel now every day and we will continue every day for as long as we both live. Wes, you are a beacon of light an hope for all of us.

The war is far from won, But today even with the transfusion, and changes made to antibiotics, it was a good day. Wes every day you fight to be with us is a good day an I will never take that for granted. Thank you for being in my life.

Is this a joke?
The baby needs to die, it's not going to have any quality of life if it survives the battery of medical problems it's had
And the fact people are are stupid enough to actually give this guy money?

wow, just wow.

Yeah, our world would be so much better without disabled people... because they cant accomplish anything

Albert Einstein - Could not speak until he was 3 and had a learning disability.

FDR - Had Polio but went on to be one of the greatest presidents in US history. Was elected to 4 terms.

Lord Byron - Had a club foot

Stephen Hawkings - Yeah, he hasnt done anything

John Forbes Nash - Schizophrenia... might know him from A Beautiful Mind

What was your argument again?

I think he's trolling. No one can seriously think that everyone with a disability would be better off dead.

The Spartans did? I thought? Not that I endorse the act, but it is a pretty simple and effective way to keeping mutations out of a population. I mean, think about it, how are mutations going to be passed on if everyone who gets one is put down? From a genetics stand point it makes sense to do that because the more the technique is practiced the less it will have to be practiced over time.

Imagine a world where nobody was at risk of things like Huntington's disease, or Taysachs disease, or Alzheimer's. All of these are genetic mix ups that could have been avoided if the person who passed down those genes wasn't able to in the first place.

But nope. We live in a "morale based society" these days. So that sort of practice wont ever be likely to pass or at least not for a very long time. Meh.... honestly I would look more for a cure to these deformities rather then a quick fix like that. Cures would make the whole practice unnecessary. lol, anyway back to the main point of the post....... I wish QG good luck with his son. Hes been excited about him for months now and I would hate to see things go wrong for the second time in a row.....

The Spartans did? I thought? Not that I endorse the act, but it is a pretty simple and effective way to keeping mutations out of a population. I mean, think about it, how are mutations going to be passed on if everyone who gets one is put down? From a genetics stand point it makes sense to do that because the more the technique is practiced the less it will have to be practiced over time.

Imagine a world where nobody was at risk of things like Huntington's disease, or Taysachs disease, or Alzheimer's. All of these are genetic mix ups that could have been avoided if the person who passed down those genes wasn't able to in the first place.

But nope. We live in a "morale based society" these days. So that sort of practice wont ever be likely to pass or at least not for a very long time. Meh.... honestly I would look more for a cure to these deformities rather then a quick fix like that. Cures would make the whole practice unnecessary. lol, anyway back to the main point of the post....... I wish QG good luck with his son. Hes been excited about him for months now and I would hate to see things go wrong for the second time in a row.....

I'd gladly post on my main had CCP not banned me for exposing their ineptitude.

controversial stuff

I've read through a couple of the Kobra's comments and quotes and I think there are a few things to be said. I've looked through this thread a few times (but not nearly all of it) and if I say something that someone else has addressed, forgive me.

The first thing I noticed was this from the website linked by the OP...
"We are just trying to raise some money so they can be closer to their son"

Kobra, what is wrong with this? I get that you're sucking the utility argument **** all over this thread but riddle me this: regardless of the outcome of this child's complications/treatment, why would the parents being closer to their child be a bad thing? I think I saw before that you discouraged people sending money partially on the grounds of it not being able to take significant financial strain off of the parents but it would help them be closer to their child. The contributions made by these generous people would have an enormous impact on the parents no matter what happens so why isn't this considered in your analysis of the overall utility of the situation?

Full disclosure, I support euthanasia in the following cases for different reasons...
1. A person wishing their life to end and deciding that they would prefer to die rather than live.
2. A person leaving behind instructions on what to do if unable to make medical decisions on their own (say, while in a coma).
3. A person unable to give consent but has no chance of survival and will endure pain until death.

Each of these cases is complicated with its own reasons for or against, but ultimately I have been in favor of euthanasia after careful thought.

****I should probably make it completely clear that I DO NOT feel that this situation falls into any of the three cases.

The thing about you, Kobra, is you give me the impression of someone who has not yet thought of all of the consequences to the arguments that you're using here either purposely for shock value or because you just didn't think enough before coming to your conclusion on the matter.

For example, you use the utility argument that boils down to "society would have more money if they didn't keep the disabled alive". Let me just remind you that this would mean that researchers, doctors, or anyone who has made a career out of helping the disabled or sick would probably lose their job. Society would have no use to try and improve on current medical treatments for these people and medical science would basically slow to a halt. I know this is sort of a slippery slope argument but not really. My main point is that you're not thinking about what your black and white implications mean past the initial "I'm the Dr. House that everyone is afraid to be but not me, I'm bold" factor.

I will just skip the emotional utility counterargument as I'm sure everyone else on this thread has demonstrated it well enough.

Basically I just see you as a bully. People might be ganging up on you because it offends them but it doesn't offend me at all. Say whatever you want but don't hide behind the utility principle like a shield because it's a weak shield at best. I'm calling you out on it.

Please just remember that you don't have ethics on your side and that there's at least someone who sees through it as just a way for you to rebel against modern social norms. If you wish to continue a debate on the moral issues involved with euthanasia I'd be happy to start another thread but considering you've made your opinion known here the only thing you stand to gain from continuing to discourage people form donating money is the satisfaction that you're potentially keeping grieving parents away from their sick child.

Looking forward to hearing back from you, or better yet, not at all.

I don't believe in any god but I do hope that things work out for the affected parents. I can't imagine how hard this must be for them.

I've been called "dead inside" by friends and family, and as a not-parent i do consider myself rather "immune" to the sentimentality involved in this situation, but taken from a cold logical standpoint, i do have a problem with your take.


you assume the child will never be "ok" will never lead a life worth living, will never be happy, and will suffer forever. i find that rather bleak and even defeatist.


medical science exists. not to mention that this is very different from lets say, an elderly cancer patient choosing death. a child, at least potentially, has a lifetime in front of it. he's made it this far, let him have his shot in peace?


if it were you, what would you choose? and i don't mean choose for someone else, i mean choose for YOURSELF? give up and die, or TRY?



anyway, i'm not religious so saying i'll pray sounds hollow. and i still hate all SVER, but i suppose that can be set aside for now.

i chipped in a lil bit, good luck kid

There are some links where you can donate on here, probably in the first couple of pages. If not, his STB brothers and VD7 will probably come in here shortly with links.

I cant donate because im unemployed and have no money. How else can we support

boo hoo, harden the **** up , deal with it or off yourself keep this **** off a gaming community website, this is for him to deal with not everyone else
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