i guess i'm more so talking about some of the new sockets that eliminate the sniper factor all together.

Garrett could you do me a favour im on tablet atnthe moment could copy in the grid layout of the new research facility large socket?? Thanks

There are no sockets which invalidate sniping across the entire map just by their presence in one location on the map.

There are a few which make sniping more difficult and a less reliable option around that one area of the map, but even then, it's never totally invalidated, it just takes a slight change in approach when you're fighting in that particular area.

The Gallente research facility- the weapons lab and the power cores. wide open spaces blocked off by high walls and only good nest are within 50m of any enemy almost the entire time. <-- not prime for sniping

There are no sockets which invalidate sniping across the entire map just by their presence in one location on the map.

There are a few which make sniping more difficult and a less reliable option around that one area of the map, but even then, it's never totally invalidated, it just takes a slight change in approach when you're fighting in that particular area.

Here's the page i've got.

http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/08/gallente-research-facility/

Here's the page i've got.

http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/08/gallente-research-facility/

Sorry not what I meant go to
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and take the image paste in so we can see it!!

Sorry not what I meant go to
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=107073&find=unread
and take the image paste in so we can see it!!

Here's the page i've got.

http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/08/gallente-research-facility/

Two roads and some open areas with minimal retreat options, the first sign that i'm running scout/sniper i get run down by a Gek or Duvolle. retreating back to my team mates to get there help only throws me in with the people their dealing with and running into the open area, well its useless. This socket has made my job no longer a nuisance, which is what it is supposed to be.

Only devs are allowed to use [img] code on these forums.

Sorry not what I meant go to
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=107073&find=unread
and take the image paste in so we can see it!!

You feel the sniper is weak or not a good player or they can kill you without meeting you "face to face" or "fighting like a man," most of all a good sniper renders you defenseless. You're helpless and you cant even shoot back. Well needless to say this is why long range rifle where created in the first place, to kill the enemy without the enemy being able to retaliate.

A good sniper is a force multiplier and can deny an enemy access to certain areas or comfort on the battlefield. Much of these things can be said about tanks or mass divers or a good forge gunner and now a group of assault rifles. Yet none of these roles have had drastic map changes to limit their capabilities.

If this role on the battlefield is so insignificant or so unfair than it shouldn't be a part of the game. Yet, it is and instead of letting the sniper do what a sniper should be capable of doing you slowly render them incapable of helping their team. With most of the fight happening within closed areas a sniper is forced to take to the ground meters behind their team mates and be subject to the amount of firepower they are. This defeats the purpose of the long range rifle.

Why not just make a very powerful mid range weapon with a low rate of fire? The sniper shouldn't be able to pick of hackers on objectives, I agree, this is incredibly unfair considering the time it takes the average player to hack one objective. Although closing in the objective behind walls within a building inside of a compound has done way more than prevented snipers from camping objectives. It has prevented snipers from helping their team to maneuver around the battlefield. It has prevented the sniper from being able to find places in maps where a sniper should be because they just aren't there anymore.

If these are the types of maps we can look forward to then the sniper rifles should be gone. It is hated by many and for good reason they don't like the fact that someone with enough skill and a powerful weapon can sit back and pull the trigger once without even batting and eye and kill them. To these people I say.. adapt.

With all of the changes made to the sniper class adapting is no longer worth the outcome, you can no longer function as a combat sniper within this game anymore. You are now a ground pounder like the rest. With every game comes new challenges and with those new challenges is finding ways within your own experience and talent to defeat the other players. That includes snipers, which now can no longer function. If you can't find a way to defeat a snipers attack then go play candy crush or something this is a war game and with it comes the tools of war. Fix the maps or Nix the class.

alright im done.


HTFU GETGUD go play COD

adapt or die



can i have your stuff when you quit?

Damn, ok this is gonna be a bit of a pain!!

F3 is nice spot
I3 is a lovely spot to force enemies into killzones
M4 works well at keeping them out

Thesd are just a few places!!

why is always the sniper adjusting on our end?