Its put the risk into sniping, you can still go into the compound you know, the multi level design has some real nice spots for a sniper, the only difference is can't sit around too long.

A good example actually is XCOM enemy unknown, you get a stativ sniper who potshots from other side of the map, no risk deadly effecient, easy peasy!! However there was also a snapshot sniper who moves with the team, you could move and shoot on the same turn, very useful, but often overlooked because of the risk!!

k think CCP want you to be a snapshot, constantly moving defending your spot, helping your team! Besides there are still open space and chokepoints at the entrance you can harass! ,

To the contrary you seem to be the only one not understanding this, risk = reward, sniping from nest = ~0 risk, therefore ~0 reward. You need to be prepared to put your neck on the line to get the best results!! That example on xcom the squadsight sniper, they are nerfing him, on a 1 player game!!

If you don't think there should be a risk, don't leave the mcc!

There is your problem, why should snipers be devoid of risk?
Please watch the video, it even shows sniping, as they intend it, and tell you, you dont have to be the same!

Thats risk you fool, the risk your tactics are scuppered, the risk you are detected, the closer you are the greater the risk!!

wait.... your using a sniper in ways its not supposed to be used... becuase you dont want to use it as intended...


then you complain when the new maps dont support your broken playstyle that doesnt help the team.


YOUR the one not using the sniper as its designed....

and the enw maps DID remove that playstyle form the game.


so all your requests were granted... its just that you diddnt expect that YOUR playstyle would be the one to be removed

Ok the research facility, you know where b is? In the unloading bay and up the stairs, there is a lovely balcony with lets you see the entrance to the compound, through a window, and halfway down the stairs to the underground, you setup shop, stop them from entering via those points, that way you and a friend can suppress an entire side of the compound!!

At least he wasn't misusing apostrophes.

eyes = more than one eye.
eye's = of the (single) eye.

My eyes! = an exclamation about how your eyes are hurting from trying to read the horrible unformatted wall of text (OP, you know you can edit in formatting, right?)
My eye's! = incomplete sentence in great need of more words. Your eye's what, exactly? And what about the object/abstract noun that belongs to your eye. And do you only have one eye, or does only one of your eyes have this unspecified something you forgot to tell us about?

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Back on-topic though...

Sorry, OP, but I've seen plenty of competent snipers who have adapted to the new maps and sockets and found ways to make it work FOR them instead of AGAINST them. There's a bit of a learning curve any time the maps change, but a good sniper can still be a game-changer once they understand how to play to their strengths on the new maps. You can't directly control the objective itself in some spaces, but you can block every major route into the objective, and that's just as good if you do it right.

The big problem with the update ISN'T the maps - it's the problematic and horrifically badly-implemented AFK timer. You can sit above an objective, WELL into the middle of the battlefield, sat in place and ready to fight, but because you're not doing anything but aiming and turning, the game will say "nope, AFK" and kick you from the battle when you're an active participant, but it WON'T kick someone out when they've got themselves wedged into a corner then rubber-banded their analog sticks together, or aimed for a corner and taped/rubber-banded their left stick so they keep trying to walk through the wall. Penalising a perfectly legitimate playstyle and NOT punishing moderately-inventive players who choose to AFK is just ridiculous.

Some high ground outside of the compounds would be nice, so i can see what myself or my squad are running into or maybe cutting us a way in or holding the enemy back with a few well timed shots. but running into high enemy traffic areas. knowing you're going to have close engagements, idiotic. Yes plenty are adapting but soon enough when the new "nests" are known there will be more like me.

this guy sounds like he doesnt want to even be a sniper. he wants to be an MCC afker with kills...


you dont actually have to engage in close quarters unless someone finds you. you have to be smart though and know where the battlelines will be drawn ahead of time and camp out and wait for the enamy to cross line of fire while they engage your forces.

if someone spots you, RUN AWAY. reset and find the next spot.

this guy just wants good vantage points in the redzone, something the devs specifically designed to prevent.(for the most part)

the only good those vantage points left in the red zone are going to be is for when your redlined.



learn to actually step outside of the red and help your team.

Sniper fits leave you no more exposed than AV/ swarm fits. If your complaint is based on running logi suits to snipe, instead of a sidearm, then you are using your equipment in a way other than what was intended. No fix necessary.

That being said, sniper rifles should have some sort of crosshair without going ADS. This is one factor that keeps snipers in the redline. Or get mobile with a spotter/ guardian. Teamwork is critical for all roles, and snipers should not feel like they are not part of a team.

Thats what they are doing, the better the view, the more exposed you have to be to take the shot, if you have a limited view its more protected, but less useful!!

My bad I misunderstood you, I thought there were opportunities like this on the new maps, fractured road I will admit the main theater isnt exactly a snipers paradise, however there are points like on the bridge where a sniper can shine!!

THIS a million times this

sniping is about reading the battlefield more then it is about finding that one broken position you can camp in

If you're expecting to stay still all game, I'm sorry, but you're NOT a good sniper.

Snipers are, by definition, a reactive role in gaming. You position yourself NOT based on "this is a perfect position" but based on "this is the right place to be RIGHT NOW" and be ready to move when the situation changes, or when you're spotted.

Dude if the majority of null cannons are in 1/10th of the map you will more than likely be expected to contribute to the battle in that 1/10th there are only 16 people a side, that enough fro 2 squads and 4 left over, there aren't gonna be hundreds of battles to choose from!

Or you join in, and make a difference instead of bumming around look for easy risk-less kills!!

LOL, this guy.... hes funny

i called it, he wants to sit on a tower invulnerable to everything and call it "tactics"

This is what we think, notice how hes a little closer than 100m, in a flanking posistion, taking care of the enemy, to help his team advance!!

http://dust514.com/media/videos/fight-your-own-war/

Garrett could you do me a favour im on tablet atnthe moment could copy in the grid layout of the new research facility large socket?? Thanks

Sorry not what I meant go to
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=107073&find=unread
and take the image paste in so we can see it!!

Sorry not what I meant go to
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=107073&find=unread
and take the image paste in so we can see it!!

Damn, ok this is gonna be a bit of a pain!!

F3 is nice spot
I3 is a lovely spot to force enemies into killzones
M4 works well at keeping them out

Thesd are just a few places!!

A good example actually is XCOM enemy unknown, you get a stativ sniper who potshots from other side of the map, no risk deadly effecient, easy peasy!! However there was also a snapshot sniper who moves with the team, you could move and shoot on the same turn, very useful, but often overlooked because of the risk!!