You feel the sniper is weak or not a good player or they can kill you without meeting you "face to face" or "fighting like a man," most of all a good sniper renders you defenseless. You're helpless and you cant even shoot back. Well needless to say this is why long range rifle where created in the first place, to kill the enemy without the enemy being able to retaliate.

A good sniper is a force multiplier and can deny an enemy access to certain areas or comfort on the battlefield. Much of these things can be said about tanks or mass divers or a good forge gunner and now a group of assault rifles. Yet none of these roles have had drastic map changes to limit their capabilities.

If this role on the battlefield is so insignificant or so unfair than it shouldn't be a part of the game. Yet, it is and instead of letting the sniper do what a sniper should be capable of doing you slowly render them incapable of helping their team. With most of the fight happening within closed areas a sniper is forced to take to the ground meters behind their team mates and be subject to the amount of firepower they are. This defeats the purpose of the long range rifle.

Why not just make a very powerful mid range weapon with a low rate of fire? The sniper shouldn't be able to pick of hackers on objectives, I agree, this is incredibly unfair considering the time it takes the average player to hack one objective. Although closing in the objective behind walls within a building inside of a compound has done way more than prevented snipers from camping objectives. It has prevented snipers from helping their team to maneuver around the battlefield. It has prevented the sniper from being able to find places in maps where a sniper should be because they just aren't there anymore.

If these are the types of maps we can look forward to then the sniper rifles should be gone. It is hated by many and for good reason they don't like the fact that someone with enough skill and a powerful weapon can sit back and pull the trigger once without even batting and eye and kill them. To these people I say.. adapt.

With all of the changes made to the sniper class adapting is no longer worth the outcome, you can no longer function as a combat sniper within this game anymore. You are now a ground pounder like the rest. With every game comes new challenges and with those new challenges is finding ways within your own experience and talent to defeat the other players. That includes snipers, which now can no longer function. If you can't find a way to defeat a snipers attack then go play candy crush or something this is a war game and with it comes the tools of war. Fix the maps or Nix the class.

they just arnt built so that the only counter is another sniper.

before you could just sit up on an unreachable tower and be invulnerable to everything but other snipers.

now you actually have to think about where you are and move with the battle.



think of it as taking the training wheels off.

You feel the sniper is weak or not a good player or they can kill you without meeting you "face to face" or "fighting like a man," most of all a good sniper renders you defenseless. You're helpless and you cant even shoot back. Well needless to say this is why long range rifle where created in the first place, to kill the enemy without the enemy being able to retaliate. A good sniper is a force multiplier and can deny an enemy access to certain areas or comfort on the battlefield. Much of these things can be said about tanks or mass divers or a good forge gunner and now a group of assault rifles. Yet none of these roles have had drastic map changes to limit their capabilities. If this role on the battlefield is so insignificant or so unfair than it shouldn't be a part of the game. Yet, it is and instead of letting the sniper do what a sniper should be capable of doing you slowly render them incapable of helping their team. With most of the fight happening within closed areas a sniper is forced to take to the ground meters behind their team mates and be subject to the amount of firepower they are. This defeats the purpose of the long range rifle. Why not just make a very powerful mid range weapon with a low rate of fire? The sniper shouldn't be able to pick of hackers on objectives, I agree, this is incredibly unfair considering the time it takes the average player to hack one objective. Although closing in the objective behind walls within a building inside of a compound has done way more than prevented snipers from camping objectives. It has prevented snipers from helping their team to maneuver around the battlefield. It has prevented the sniper from being able to find places in maps where a sniper should be because they just aren't there anymore. If these are the types of maps we can look forward to then the sniper rifles should be gone. It is hated by many and for good reason they don't like the fact that someone with enough skill and a powerful weapon can sit back and pull the trigger once without even batting and eye and kill them. To these people I say.. adapt. With all of the changes made to the sniper class adapting is no longer worth the outcome, you can no longer function as a combat sniper within this game anymore. You are now a ground pounder like the rest. With every game comes new challenges and with those new challenges is finding ways within your own experience and talent to defeat the other players. That includes snipers, which now can no longer function. If you can't find a way to defeat a snipers attack then go play candy crush or something this is a war game and with it comes the tools of war. Fix the maps or Nix the class.

Towers gone, fine we could find new reachable places. Only counter is another sniper... well if that wasn't the case then your not a sniper... if you don't like the fact that you can't kill snipers without another sniper then lets just get rid of them.

Towers gone...

Nooo... we have new towers instead

If only i could deploy a box to stand on...

I know i must be a terrible sniper, i am a camper, I am everything you hate about the sniper and it's all my fault. I f you don't like what a sniper does than get rid of it but don't give us what we need then set us up for failure.

If only i could deploy a box to stand on...

If only i could deploy a box to stand on...

Its put the risk into sniping, you can still go into the compound you know, the multi level design has some real nice spots for a sniper, the only difference is can't sit around too long.

A good example actually is XCOM enemy unknown, you get a stativ sniper who potshots from other side of the map, no risk deadly effecient, easy peasy!! However there was also a snapshot sniper who moves with the team, you could move and shoot on the same turn, very useful, but often overlooked because of the risk!!

k think CCP want you to be a snapshot, constantly moving defending your spot, helping your team! Besides there are still open space and chokepoints at the entrance you can harass! ,

I'm still finding these spots and moving around, yet sniping isn't suppose to have that kind of risk. If a sniper wanted that amount of risk they would carry another weapon to counter it..... am i the only one understanding this?

To the contrary you seem to be the only one not understanding this, risk = reward, sniping from nest = ~0 risk, therefore ~0 reward. You need to be prepared to put your neck on the line to get the best results!! That example on xcom the squadsight sniper, they are nerfing him, on a 1 player game!!

If you don't think there should be a risk, don't leave the mcc!

Risk= reward????? hardly for snipers

There is your problem, why should snipers be devoid of risk?
Please watch the video, it even shows sniping, as they intend it, and tell you, you dont have to be the same!

http://science.howstuffworks.com/sniper1.htm

http://science.howstuffworks.com/sniper1.htm