DUST Search - #1 players - 1 kill 15 deaths - all logi

John Demonsbane wrote:

Athena Sentinel wrote:

Kira Lannister wrote:

Athena Sentinel wrote:

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Listen, we know that the assaulters are mad that you are going 20-0 and you aren't number 1.

Guess what? They get points for doing their job, the same that you get points for killing. Placement on the scoreboard don't mean sh*t and quite frankly, the win is more important.

Your blueberry found out he couldn't slay people. So instead he picked up a support kit, and healed and supported the team. He deserves those war points because he helped EVERYONE. At least he is trying to be helpful (and succeeding) rather than redline sniping or AFK'ing.

He probably even helped you a bit with those nanohives and reps and revives. So be thankful, not spiteful.

Hm, lets try looking at this another way. We don't need logi with the current system, my corp now just use militia Min logi suit, with militia drop spawn and nanohive. We run in drop the junk, back to depot switch to combat and we have our own logi support. Logi suits are also a waste of time because there is no benefit to more SPU or PG or extra equipment slots, if I can do all this in a Assault or any suit and a supply depot. . We can have Assault suits and carry a equipment slot, drop, switch, drop... Logi are pointless.

The problem now is so much logi equpiment on the field.. really 20 spawn points no nanohives - let me guess, they make less SP. Getting nanoinjected in combat to die before you can move so they can get their 60 SP before dieing themselves.

Lol you must be in a npc corps, because if you guys ever played pc you would understand the error in your ways.

Your name is Athena, for the goddess of wisdom, your pretty dim.

PC is broken from what I have heard. And only a fool would be on forums with their main character. good day!

Knock yourself out, chief. Run back and forth all day long to swap suits, take your assault suit out of the fight. Oh, and have fun watching your precious KDR drop, too!
Also, still pretty sure you are mistaking a now-fixed bug for something that is working as intendedGäó. I see no reason why equipment should be any different than anything else that can be replenished all day at supply depots.
Would be nice if we could get confirmation of that from CCP Logibro, of course.

(p.s. Not being a troll, fool, or coward, I post on my main all day long, as do many of the people who have had the audacity to oppose your opinion on this thread. Saw some of them in game just the other night. Come find me on the battlefield any time, I don't particularly care.)


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Draco Cerberus Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 319	Posted - 2013.09.19 00:31:00 - [1] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: First Prophet wrote: Should've gone 21/0. Funny!! Skilled logi is not the issue. the multiply equipment drops with no risk to losing costly suits.. When more combat types require the risk of losing isk and costly suits to make #1 is sad. It requires no skill and gives people a lot of xp/isk/wp not cool. That should go to the most skilled not the ones droping militia logi and nanoinjecting people in combat to die again just for SP... You know its true! Awww The real problem is that as the risk is increased in the cost of proto gear it doesn't scale up the reward except in the length of time a piece of undiscovered equipment lasts. For example, drop a proto hive or uplink and have people spawning or repping faster for longer. Cost goes up, rewards do not scale other than over time at which point you may as well run lower level gear for the same effect more times at a lower cost. My proto logi suit runs me around 200k isk for one fit. No aurum gear just isk. If I die more than once I lose isk @ 250k per match. Yes I earn wp, yes I hit the top of the leaderboard but it is not effective in any way shape or form for a person to proto stomp around in a pub match atm. Scaling the WP rewards up for higher level gear is the answer. It satisfies the proto users who have spent gobs of time getting the gear and just want to be able to use it. This should also satisfy people using advanced and standard gear as well. ISK = Risk right?
Draco Cerberus Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 322	Posted - 2013.09.19 14:24:00 - [2] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Athena Sentinel wrote: Kira Lannister wrote: Athena Sentinel wrote: Quote: Listen, we know that the assaulters are mad that you are going 20-0 and you aren't number 1. Guess what? They get points for doing their job, the same that you get points for killing. Placement on the scoreboard don't mean sh*t and quite frankly, the win is more important. Your blueberry found out he couldn't slay people. So instead he picked up a support kit, and healed and supported the team. He deserves those war points because he helped EVERYONE. At least he is trying to be helpful (and succeeding) rather than redline sniping or AFK'ing. He probably even helped you a bit with those nanohives and reps and revives. So be thankful, not spiteful. Hm, lets try looking at this another way. We don't need logi with the current system, my corp now just use militia Min logi suit, with militia drop spawn and nanohive. We run in drop the junk, back to depot switch to combat and we have our own logi support. Logi suits are also a waste of time because there is no benefit to more SPU or PG or extra equipment slots, if I can do all this in a Assault or any suit and a supply depot. . We can have Assault suits and carry a equipment slot, drop, switch, drop... Logi are pointless. The problem now is so much logi equpiment on the field.. really 20 spawn points no nanohives - let me guess, they make less SP. Getting nanoinjected in combat to die before you can move so they can get their 60 SP before dieing themselves. Lol you must be in a npc corps, because if you guys ever played pc you would understand the error in your ways. Your name is Athena, for the goddess of wisdom, your pretty dim. PC is broken from what I have heard. And only a fool would be on forums with their main character. good day! Knock yourself out, chief. Run back and forth all day long to swap suits, take your assault suit out of the fight. Oh, and have fun watching your precious KDR drop, too! Also, still pretty sure you are mistaking a now-fixed bug for something that is working as intendedGäó. I see no reason why equipment should be any different than anything else that can be replenished all day at supply depots. Would be nice if we could get confirmation of that from CCP Logibro, of course. (p.s. Not being a troll, fool, or coward, I post on my main all day long, as do many of the people who have had the audacity to oppose your opinion on this thread. Saw some of them in game just the other night. Come find me on the battlefield any time, I don't particularly care.) I'm trying hard not to respond with a cutting reply so instead I'll just say this 3000+wp 3k17a2d. You can see in those stats that equipment in the correct doses is useful and effective. My squad did manage 3 or 4 OBs in the match and it was due to the equipment as well as not waiting for some other squad to go and do, we did. This is what a normal logi does if they have a squad that co-ordinates their actions based on supporting each other. There is a definite need for logi, also assault heavy and scout players. If you have an equipment slot on your suit it should have something in it be it nanohive, injector, RE, uplink or a repair tool. That doesn't mean that you'll be an effective logi with only one equipment slot but it does mean you can support your squad by picking up the logi or repping a HEAVY or even dropping an uplink at a key location or dropping some ammo or ammo/reps to make a difference.