The forge Gun just does too many things too well. It is the only weapon besides the Plasma Cannon that can kill both infantry and vehicles effectively. It actually outclasses the Plasma Cannon in every way other than splash damage and radius. not only that, it make Charged Sniper Rifles fairly useless as well, as the only thing it has better than a forge gun is its scope. As of right now the splash damage on a FG actually out damages most SRs.
As most can agree that the FG was intended to be an AV weapon, i suggest the removal or extreme reduction of its splash damage (and/or) radius. This is because the splash doesn't even really pose a threat to vehicles, but poses a huge threat to infantry, which (is not/ shouldn't be) their intended targets.
I feel that this would do little to no damage to the AV aspect of the weapon, but would make it actually require a much larger amount of player skill to use as an anti-infantry weapon.
That is all.

Plz dont nerf my gun...

its the only thing i get kills with...

we should nerf everything else so i can be the dominant soldier on the battlefield...

also lets make this game stupid...

YES.

by your very same logic ARs are OP. because:

1. there is no other weapon that can challenge them (except forge guns and thats a 50/50 chance) from 5meters to 75meters.

2. the dps on a milita AR without damage mods proficiency, or headshots can kill a full proto heavy sentinel or proto basic with 1591 ehp in 3.7 seconds. (assault forgun charges in 4 seconds). so AR > forgun.

3. has enough ammo to kill 23 people (48 in clip +300 max). if they dnt miss a single shot. if they miss on averge they can get 12 kills per life.

4. people complain about heavies hiding behind walls how about your Caldari logistics suit gaining back its 500 shields in 2 seconds after jumping behind a wall?

5. splash damage is only 2m and is 233 damage. remember every 4 seconds my assualt forge gun is doing 233 damage of splash. Your milita AR does 467 dps.

6. Forge gun dps.
1533 hp damage /4 seconds = 383.25
milita AR = 467 dps

so milita AR dps > forgun dps.

difference is milita does only 10% damage to vehicles, and forguns do the complete damage to vehicles.



Finall point. if TL;DR
the forgunis the only heavy weapon that works right now do you really want to nerf that too?

You mean like an AR right so Exionous where is your nerf AR thread eh? Thats right you are a Cal Logi AR scrub who cant beat a tactical use of the FG.

first point totally incorrect. Unless by immediate you mean 1.5 seconds. Charge time NEVER changes.
2 also incorrect the actual size of the ball plays nearly no part in hit detection.
How is that different from a good sniper. Totally situational.
splash damadge almost never means instant kill.
Have you ever even used a forge gun or are you bent over and trying to talk using gas and movement of your hands?

I will agree with you on the point number one.

Give it 1200-1300 damage, 1 meter splash radius, and slightly higher splash damage.

However, being unable to reach isn't really a good point. I can have a sniper up there with AV nades and a high quality SMG, and get similar AI results. Only that the suit I would be more inclined to fit it on would have MUCH lower HP, and therefore can be counter sniped. While fat suits can't get CSsed as easily as a lighter frame, you technically could, through perserverence and good aim. And a charge sniper.

Now you pointed that out in point #1, that should be changed. However, the othe forges I think are fine.

should the assault forge base charge up time be changed to 2.75 or 3 secs?

Again as a forge gunner, i wouldn't mind a reduction in splash damage OR splash damage AREA.

But i insist its not needed.

the forge gun in general is overpowered, it should not do the same damage to drop suits that it does to vehicles , its crazy ,the first forge gun to the highest point wins, make it single shot like the poor plasma cannon and make it 75 percent less effective against drop suits,which would still be hundreds of damage, justify it logically with the fact that the projectile is larger than the dropsuit target, like 75 percent larger, so that damage misses, bam , op forge problem solved for vehicles and dropsuits

No way.

As I explained in another thread, the Splash Damage on the FG is there to scatter Vehicle's infantry support. It is very negligible at best about 140 Splash DPS. 277/2 sec charge time.

The FG is perfect where it is at.

Sorry the infantry support should be scattered by your squad infantry players. As you describe it, forge should be able solo tank and his support. I'm not for a forge splash nerf but logic like yours , Jaraiya, just gives it a good point to get one, lol. Perhaps a shield damage only splash is the best of both worlds. You can heavily cripple tanks and infantry, but must hit directly to get the kill. Don't even say hip fire direct hits are hard with a forge, I've used since pre-chrome, and am amazed it took so long to be utilized.