Just played a game with Ted Nugget of SVER.

Redline sniping...okay, i see that coming from a mile away from tanks.

Decides to stop redline sniping, switch to missile tank.

I switch to proto Ishukone FG with prof 5.

8 Forge gun hits later....hes chugging along, with full health a few seconds afterwards....as if i didn't exist.

Yea....tanks seriously need a buff.

Ass holes.

at the attitude you have, I have come to realize that you think 3 people required to take one thing out makes that think OP, but its not, its just too team oriented for you to grasp it.. iv recently started rolling in a teamlike spirit and I don't die as often anymore, maybe you should give it a try since all your doing is trying to solo us like scrubby little infantry

the state of the game, there are NO advanced or prototype tanks to deal with advanced and prototype AV, so yeah this game is terribly broken on vehicle balance.

not in the slightest, there are still major things that aren't right with the balance, however those only make up part of the balance.

certain subjects of this imbalance are quite obvious:

no advanced or prototype tanks. - Uh, the std ones you turkeys use are powerful enough and are already almost invincible.
invisible swarms and infantry. - For being invisible, it's amazing you tankers sure know what direction to hide and rep in
horrible rendering. - Explain.
core mechanics. - Infantry have crap core mechanics too, next.
AV convenience when it comes to AV grenades. etc etc. - If I choose to use Av nades I give up my regular nades, which I rely on greatly. Also AV nades vs a well fitted tank usually results in a suicide of the person trying to get close enough to throw those nades.

the only thing that would be beneficial in starting the overhaul of this imbalance would be to bring in advanced and prototype tanks.
only then could we begin, otherwise wed be back to where we are now.

and squads are fine il admit, but they aren't ideal for survival, especially if your squad doesn't care about your tank nor does your team which is what happens 95% of the time.

tanks need lone survivability, otherwise theres no incentive to skill into them other than waving the currently biggest weapon around pointing it at your enemy's faces

if you would read his 1st post, he claimed that he was trying to SOLO ONE OF THE BEST TANKERS IN THE GAME, of course he isn't going to succeed.


the way I would balance things is like this:


1 prototype tank = 3 prototype AV
1 advanced tank = 3 advanced AV
1 standard tank = 3 standard AV

however, if you have blue in your turrets, they will give you an extra survivability only if they have the same skill set as you do, this would also be needing the vehicle lock function we all want, that way if the right people were in the tank, it would be indestructible, but if its only the pilot, the tank would be killable but still do massive amounts of damage, nothing less.

this would greatly encourage the teamwork you want us to use, but it would have to be done right, and by right, I mean the pilot needs to have complete dominance over his own asset, otherwise tanks and vehicles in general would just be like BF.

3 things I have to say about your post..

1: your also ignoring my points when im talking about introducing teamplay like you want into tanks while still making it worth for a pilot to personally skill into them.

2: you fail to realize that when tankers spec into tanks, we completely give up our ability to fight outside of tanks unless we have enough SP to skill into infantry also, so don't come and talk to me about sacrifice.

3: I thought you were rational and un biased and actually looking for a decent conversation on the subject. guess I was wrong about you

yes I do, mainly because its a 50-ton or heavier vehicle that's over 3x larger than infantry is...

and even irl it occasionally takes one brave person to toss in a grenade but it also more times takes multiple people with rockets to destroy one, and look t the statistics, NONE of the modern American tanks have been destroyed yet. (that was for you people wanting this game to be like real life which is plain stupid as hell).


imho, size determines it all, look at eve (the game this game is MEANT to be made after), titans require multiple ships to destroy them, they can never be soloed.

well other than the obvios, what about the incentive to skill into vehicles in the 1st place, if they are **** like they are now, nobody will want them, and look at that. hardly anyone does.

yep it does, and does it not take down more health for you when you shot in the head than everywhere else?

because you hate them, i know you and a few others in this thread do, why would you complain about something you hate being UP?

there are sweet spots for av on tanks, they are located on vulnerable areas that when hit, it takes off over half of our health in one shot (this happened to me once, i had 6K armor and still repping then thin lone forger ran on top of the hill next to me and shot at one of those spots and killed me). you can look it up

even though its UP it can still kill you, why else would you be complaining, that's what this guy is complaining about basically

Probably because he sucks there

So, he is hoping to be the best here.

LOL Yeah that's right, he's in ambush. Tankers on the forums go to skirmish/domination. He has no place posting here.

All you did was prove us right...

there far too lazy to do that you know

the problem is we want to squad with infantry AV and take on tanks together, but you dont need us

Look who's talking

I guess you didn't see the thread I posted a while ago about how a guy with a Thale's killed me in my heavy suit in one shot.

Wanna know why? Weaponry 5, proficiency to at least 3, high damage weapon, damage mods.

This was during Chromosome. Yeah, I was pretty damn pissed about it.

You [Us] AV users don't want to be in a squad to be able to destroy Vehicle users so, why should we be in a squad to be able to protect ourselves?

So roll in a squad with 4 PRO forge and 2 logis. Problem solved.

Do you want me to play for you too?

You were complaining about getting sniped by one person when you were in a heavy suit. So I posted about an experience I had, in my heavy suit, and how a sniper killed me.

I know from experience that is not the case going against void. My advice is do not use swarms at all, don't bring in any vehicles, get a sniper rifle and contact grenades and kill his death squad and stay away from the front lines no matter what.

Do you need to be in a squad to do that?

Both are able to solo (Somewhat [Tanks are a little harder]).
The real question here is why can AV users solo and yet, Vehicle users can't?

............... you're hopeless.

True.

I'm just showing you that you can solo a tank... *Gasp* who'd have thought?



Thing is, you can easily solo a tank. I'm sure you can find dozens of videos showing an AV user soloing a Vehicle user; why do the work myself?

Also to quote Spark

Something like 1:10 in the infantry's favor I presume