shhh..im at work o0 :) I will make one soon... its going to be a thank you video to all you great people!

Lowratehitman, I give you credit for being brave enough to drag the dead beaten horse back into the center of the room. But the dead beast drives the so called "vet" tankers to vomit insanity. Reason cannot cure them; others have already tried only to watch them relapse with circular logic, tears, and jibberish. Is it even worth the trouble?

On a side note, does anyone see the irony of people claiming to be "good tankers" or "vets" coming to the forums to cry that they keep losing their vehicle to anti-vehicle weaponry?

Actually, I'd like to see a video of 2 Minmatar basic medium frames strafing side by side. One with kb/m, one with ds3. This way we can compare the strafe rate for everyone to see! lol

As for the AV shizzle, buff swarms flight speed and make them smart enough to go around light posts, and increase the time before homing activates on AV grenades by 0.3 seconds, then all AV will work as they should

^^^^ you cant expose things for what they REALLY are... or you get hated on :(

I'll volunteer my Minmatar basic if you change your mind, I'd love too see that lulz

People wouldn't be using AV grenades so much if regular AV did it's job. Just sayin'. 2 proto AVers (not AV grenadiers) can barely take out a really well fit tank right now, and these are STD tanks. Things are going to be ungodly stupid once ADV and PROTO tanks come back.

imho i think they simply need to reduce the amount of av nades you can carry 3 av nades can do over 4k dmg Which is op as ****

1 proto tank should = 3 proto AV
1 advanced tank should = 2 proto AV
1 standard tank should = 1 proto AV

otherwise tanks will just continue to be worthless.. like they are now.

I would really like to do that... this morning perhaps I will. Will you be on? I will prob have the both players use starter fits so it is a suit that anyone can relate to.... But I will get hate from all angles.... why do you think you have not seen a player spotlight on me? lol

I noticed someone say that "In Real Life" a grenade would not destroy a tank... so I threw that up there...


The mentality of the forums....

'Why my tank shouldn't die to AV 'nades'


Whine whine whine my tank dies when I try to rush people instead of keeping my distance and dominating from safety, moan moan moan I hate using cover and planning escape routes, complain complain complain no one likes guarding my tank as a squad tactic because they find it boring so I have to try to solo everything 'cause no one wants to help me, whinge whinge whinge I'm not OP enough so that makes everything else OP

By Brokenrecord Kashuken, A.K.A. English Snake

Fixed that for ya'

Fixed that for ya'

I know right, I believe I have seen him call all AV but the plasma cannon a crutch

Wrong

FG is nearly fine by me, the damage is another thing but they have to aim at least

Plasma cannon is a funny weapon but once again they have to aim, and aim more than any other AV weapon in the game, its the hardest AV weapon to use thats why its rarely seen, on the other hand crutch swarms are everywhere

So the only one you wont complain about is the one thats nearly impossible to destroy a vehicle with?
Cant hit anything in the sky
Doesnt do enough damage to take out an LAV before it has to reload and recharge the shot giving ample time to get run over
And again does not do enough damage to take out an HAV without giving them ample time to move out of range or to kill them unless the driver is in the restroom

The reason you dont see it isnt because its not a "crutch" but because its atrocious in its role

Ok seriously shut up about swarms

Im not saying this to be mean or anything but if you are an adult its ******* pathetic that you devote so much time and energy into posting crutch this and crutch that ad nauseum
I have not seen you post in a thread yet that hasnt devolved into you kicking and screaming on the floor like a child

Again Im not saying this to be mean or insult you but if you want people to take you seriously than stop acting like a child

I JUST NOW finished a match. Tanker name-KAMAKAZE DRIVER. I hit him with 3 AV grenades and 4 proto swarms in the space of approximately 25 seconds, his tank survived and he got away. 3 back to back AV grenades to start things off and 4 back to back proficiency 5 Wyrikomi swarms fired as fast as you can lock on.

Those 25 seconds were all he needed to get to where I couldn't reach him or aim at him to kill his tank and he could repp in complete safety. Not that he needed to, the match ended as soon as he got to safety.

Why don't you go ask him how he runs his tank, because by your accounts you obviously can't keep a tank alive through all of that. He can and did.

As do most tankers.

lol crutch user you mad?

Kicking and screaming thats rich coming from AV and infantry, its all they did to get all vehicles nerfed into the ******* ground because they refused to skill into AV kept using milita and kept doing it solo, you wont be happy until you can kill it with a clip from a militia rifle

5 builds and 5 sets of nerfs

Vehicles are still trucking in while still infantry want to nerf them even more, i routinely use more teamwork than my AV counterparts but that doesnt count because im in a vehicle, i adapt and adapt and adapt even more to get the best out of my vehicle when im losing skills from the tree, losing mods, losing hulls, gaining 'advanced militia' hull as a sidegrade and all while im using the basic hull and mods because we dont have advanced/proto hulls/mods yet we are put against adv/proto AV in every game and are told to HTFU and deal with it

They complain when i dont help the team, they complain when i rail snipe, they complain when i dont move because i have an idiot blue dot in the gun seat spamming it at our MCC, they complain how all i do is look after my investment, all infantry do is complain about anything i do yet do infantry help me? lolno thats teamwork and your a tank you should be fine and be able to stand upto all the AV being thrown at you

But we cant, ive tried every method in the book to keep a tank alive and the best one which is still unbeaten is redline rail sniping, even using teamwork a single lolproto crutch swarm user can just say nope imma **** you all up anyways with my crutch while we the vehicle users consistantly use teamwork to try and avoid the shitstorm

double standards much?

I'll be the first to say that AV can be slightly overwhelming at times, but if you loose your tank to av nades, then you probably deserve it, to close to infantry for too long

probably not running in a squad either with no gunners in your other turrets

I called in about 20 tanks yesterday (no rails) over about 30 games and didnt loose one, its not impossible, just you shouldnt sit still in one place for to long

Like I said, ranting like a child and hyperbolic statements are not the way to get people to take you seriously

Okay for infantry and AV to do it but for vehicle lolno

Like i said double standards much