The key is not nerfing AV...yet actually balancing the vehicles correctly...

The reason that I am able to take advantage of these tanks on the battlefield is not due to my OP av grenades, it is due to the mentality of 60-75 % of the tank drivers currently in Dust 514. If they see a red dot on the mini map, they instantly charge for the kill, and opposed to what some will lead you to believe, the reason that mentality is there is due to tankers being allowed to Rambo the field and not encounter av grenades. ( They poop their pants when they actually do bum rush a AV grenadier)

Back in the day, dominant tank drivers was known by name due to their skills and due to the squad that they carry as protection, imagine that, a tank squad. In the video below when you read the comment section you will hear various excuses for the tank driver in question.... all the way to blaming me for not telling the accurate shield and armor #'s.

In the video AV grenade community....... If this is how you kill your tanks, please express so. I do not even have to chase tanks anymore, once I am a red dot on their mini map.... they come to me :)

Dust 514 : Why My AV Grenades Dominate Tanks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7axvE-844Hw

If vehicles were re-balanced to the point that AV grenades were a hard counter to LAVs, but a minor/moderate threat to HAV to the point that you needed an AV weapon to take one out, would that make sense? If tanks are rock, infantry is scissors, and AV is paper, why should scissors get to run with paper?

Hi all. I've been reading through and we appreciate your feedback.

You're right about the vehicle engineering skill. For the other posters, I'm assuming you mean the vehicle core upgrades skill?

The reason for lowering the overall bonus was to allow us to create a more varied difference in between our different vehicle roles within the same class. This will become more apparent in the future when we release even more roles with different slot layouts. We also want to make sure that new players have a fighting chance against more skill point rich players who can enjoy the benefit of compounding premium module bonuses in the same fitting. We'll be keeping a close eye on how this nets out in vehicle combat, and ensure that we still afford you the ability to create interesting and unique fits to compliment your combat experience.

Best regards,
- CCP Blam!

Just so we're all on the same page, this is one of many things wrong with tanks:
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If they were so worried about new players, why not make matchmaking important instead of punishing players for playing the game right?

Nice post man.... but what I am not understanding..or perhaps I am...since they "nerfed" tanks/ vehicles, and have not given more "slots" and a more enriched experience for the "more skilled" players....thatn shouldn't that be what the forum is filled with... not the nerfing of AV?

Nice post man.... but what I am not understanding..or perhaps I am...since they "nerfed" tanks/ vehicles, and have not given more "slots" and a more enriched experience for the "more skilled" players....thatn shouldn't that be what the forum is filled with... not the nerfing of AV?

Just another lost battle that went forgotten and buried.

it was not forgotten... you pulled it right up...I would be posting that all day

funny you should ask...it was great till last night and I got the 3012 ERROR which wouldn't allow me to play anymore.... seems like tons of players got it, but it is a Beta and I am sure the will get it fixed...

Its on the PSN store for digital download already :)

have you been playing?

IN REAL LIFE 1 GRENADE CAN MESS UP A TANK OR ARMOR HUM V .... but this is a video game.... I understand

See now you get it, way to many new tankers just try to park next to you and dont even attempt to stay out of the danger zone until they will die to the next grenade and then blame what killed them being OP

fixed it for you

You say that but honestly I see the long time tankers who have refused to adapt from the old days do it more often
Not saying new tankers dont do it but they usually learn pretty quick it that its a stupid idea and to keep some distance from infantry cover at the very least

See now you get it, way to many tankers just try to park next to you and dont even attempt to stay out of the danger zone until they will die to the next grenade and then blame what killed them being OP

The reason that I am able to take advantage of these tanks on the battlefield is not due to my OP av grenades, it is due to the mentality of 60-75 % of the tank drivers currently in Dust 514. If they see a red dot on the mini map, they instantly charge for the kill, and opposed to what some will lead you to believe, the reason that mentality is there is due to tankers being allowed to Rambo the field and not encounter av grenades. ( They poop their pants when they actually do bum rush a AV grenadier)

Back in the day, dominant tank drivers was known by name due to their skills and due to the squad that they carry as protection, imagine that, a tank squad. In the video below when you read the comment section you will hear various excuses for the tank driver in question.... all the way to blaming me for not telling the accurate shield and armor #'s.

In the video AV grenade community....... If this is how you kill your tanks, please express so. I do not even have to chase tanks anymore, once I am a red dot on their mini map.... they come to me :)

Dust 514 : Why My AV Grenades Dominate Tanks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7axvE-844Hw

apparently you don't understand because you want this game to be opposite of what its designed to be, a future sifi fantasy game, its not nor was it ever meant to be like real life. it even has it in the lore that earth is completely non-existing in new eden and the technology we have irl today is LONG forgotten by about 20k years, and the technology new eden has is far more advanced than present day earth...

you don't understand that this is a game because you just want this to be like real life where you kill everything with an AR.

im not insulting you, im pointing out the fact that you do not understand because of your comments, your attitude and your mentality.

and on the bias that if AV grenades get the nerf they severely deserve that the whole player base will quit... well that's their own fault for being lazy *** scrubs who expect everything to be handed to them without any effort on their part..

all your video showed was how EASY it is to kill a tank, also guess what, tankers have no control over the players using the small turrets, we don't have a button that kicks them out (that would solve the blue problem) nor do we have competent infantry players we can rely on to help us out while we do our jobs, all the infantry do (in your video, they do what im about to say) is just sit back in our small turrets and AFK expecting to get free points for doing nothing, and that result in our deaths and wasted gameplay...

and you even said that you hate tanks, therefore you have no reasonable grounds to speak on, tankers don't hate AV players, were actually glad to be killed by people that skill up into the class meant to take us down (except AV grenades, those offer too much flexibility and have no negative aspects to speak of, they allow you to be proficient in both anti infantry and anti vhicle roles which shouldn't be possible because every other role requires you to make complete sacrifices when dealing with other class types, but AV grenades completely ignore the "you gotta give a little to get a little" and "nothing is given without sacrifice" aspecs of real life and new eden). you showed complete ignorance in that video and lost credibility with the "world of tanks" comment you made.

i know im aggressive with this post but its just me standing my ground.

Only standing your ground? you are mad at me for destroying a tank that was on a mission to kill me? I used the tools that I have available and it is my fault? all that other ranting you are doing seems to be pent up frustration... you clearly do not know me.... and I was around when this was "world of tanks" and it was not fun... so lets talk about credibility.... cause I can talk about whatever I choose.... you think I am the only one that feels this way?

UUUGHHH noo but i've been watching those gameplay videos like theres no tomorrow. I got my eye on the animal race with the archer class

People wouldn't be using AV grenades so much if regular AV did it's job. Just sayin'. 2 proto AVers can barely take out a really well fit tank right now, and these are STD tanks. Things are going to be ungodly stupid once ADV and PROTO tanks come back.

no, im not mad at you for destroying a tank, that's your role as an "AV Grenader" but your mentality in the video cuts off all your credibility, you were being biased in the video. this was never world of tanks, in no game EVER did i see 16 tanks on the ground and no infantry players, every game iv ever been in, there have been at most 5 tanks, even in closed beta..

its not your gameplay that is biased, its your mentality on how this should be not dust 514 and how it should be COD, and you are avoiding my main statement on where im proving that you don't understand that this is a game.

and yes i know your not the only one who wants this to be COD in space.

(im gona sleep now, have a test in the morning.)

well, I am sorry you feel that way, soon you will take a class in sarcasm, and than perhaps you will understand and look back on that video and actually laugh

^ what are you doin on the forums low rate? Make another video rite meow!

Why do people insist on realism on a game?