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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.19 15:04:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Delta 749 wrote:
Not a random quote, something you had literally just said and referenced to try and defend yourself Anyway I see youve gone the route of hiding in the red line, good for survivability but definitely not admirable in anyway
Although this does beg the question, with that huge distance gap lowering swarm launcher damage output and being able to duck behind a ridge to block all damage how is it that they kill you so often? Thats what I want to see
There we have it Infantry complaining yet again because im in the redline so i survive Sawrms/FG/OB they dont kill me when im in my redline When im in my redline im doing what you are doing when on top of a tower covering the area yet its fine for infantry and AV to do it but not for a vehicle - double standards again Tell me how that was complaining at all Seriously explain how saying what you do was good for survivability but not admirable was complaining Grasp at those straws but please try to back up what you say and explain how you reached your conclusion instead of going "look look see see I knew it was like that but Im not going to say how my point was proved"
Complaining that and your words 'im hiding in the redline' not camping or just sat on a hill but hiding yet AV do it all the time but its fine because they are infantry aka double standards again
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1773
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Posted - 2013.08.19 15:09:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Delta 749 wrote:
Not a random quote, something you had literally just said and referenced to try and defend yourself Anyway I see youve gone the route of hiding in the red line, good for survivability but definitely not admirable in anyway
Although this does beg the question, with that huge distance gap lowering swarm launcher damage output and being able to duck behind a ridge to block all damage how is it that they kill you so often? Thats what I want to see
There we have it Infantry complaining yet again because im in the redline so i survive Sawrms/FG/OB they dont kill me when im in my redline When im in my redline im doing what you are doing when on top of a tower covering the area yet its fine for infantry and AV to do it but not for a vehicle - double standards again Tell me how that was complaining at all Seriously explain how saying what you do was good for survivability but not admirable was complaining Grasp at those straws but please try to back up what you say and explain how you reached your conclusion instead of going "look look see see I knew it was like that but Im not going to say how my point was proved" Complaining that and your words 'im hiding in the redline' not camping or just sat on a hill but hiding yet AV do it all the time but its fine because they are infantry aka double standards again
Flawed argument since I consider anyone that hides in the redline as not admirable whether they be sniper, av, tanker, etc etc so theres no double standard Try again |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
902
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Posted - 2013.08.19 15:12:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:
Flawed argument since I consider anyone that hides in the redline as not admirable whether they be sniper, av, tanker, etc etc so theres no double standard Try again
How is it flawed?
You complained that im the redline hiding
You complained im in the redline
You complained that im hiding
That is complaining
You are complaining because im not in the field 'supporting idiots' who generally dont support the tank anyways |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
706
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Posted - 2013.08.19 15:16:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:
I totally agree, AV nades, and nades in general, are imbalanced.
Imagine if AV nades didn't exist though... would you have any fear of charging into a pack of reds if you knew for a fact that none of them had AV nades?
I don't want them removed, so that is not the issue.
As it stands, tanks that let infantry get anywhere near them get blown up, so you don't see tankers that like to go positive crashing into groups of reds by choice. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1773
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Posted - 2013.08.19 15:17:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Delta 749 wrote:
Flawed argument since I consider anyone that hides in the redline as not admirable whether they be sniper, av, tanker, etc etc so theres no double standard Try again
How is it flawed? You complained that im the redline hiding You complained im in the redline You complained that im hiding That is complaining You are complaining because im not in the field 'supporting idiots' who generally dont support the tank anyways
Flawed because I did not complain, I just said it wasnt admirable Did I say that you shouldnt do it? Did I say it was somehow unfair? Did I say that you need to come out onto the rest of the field?
Nope, I just said I dont admire you for doing it so thats where you argument is flawed, well in one way at least The other was you trying to say I had a double standard going on
Are you like 14? You argue like a teenager and if you are then I just feel bad now |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
905
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Posted - 2013.08.19 15:26:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Delta 749 wrote:
Flawed argument since I consider anyone that hides in the redline as not admirable whether they be sniper, av, tanker, etc etc so theres no double standard Try again
How is it flawed? You complained that im the redline hiding You complained im in the redline You complained that im hiding That is complaining You are complaining because im not in the field 'supporting idiots' who generally dont support the tank anyways Flawed because I did not complain, I just said it wasnt admirable Did I say that you shouldnt do it? Did I say it was somehow unfair? Did I say that you need to come out onto the rest of the field? Nope, I just said I dont admire you for doing it so thats where you argument is flawed, well in one way at least The other was you trying to say I had a double standard going on Are you like 14? You argue like a teenager and if you are then I just feel bad now
You complained and you are still doing it
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1773
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Posted - 2013.08.19 15:28:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Delta 749 wrote:
Flawed argument since I consider anyone that hides in the redline as not admirable whether they be sniper, av, tanker, etc etc so theres no double standard Try again
How is it flawed? You complained that im the redline hiding You complained im in the redline You complained that im hiding That is complaining You are complaining because im not in the field 'supporting idiots' who generally dont support the tank anyways Flawed because I did not complain, I just said it wasnt admirable Did I say that you shouldnt do it? Did I say it was somehow unfair? Did I say that you need to come out onto the rest of the field? Nope, I just said I dont admire you for doing it so thats where you argument is flawed, well in one way at least The other was you trying to say I had a double standard going on Are you like 14? You argue like a teenager and if you are then I just feel bad now You complained and you are still doing it
Not really, now do you actually have anyway to back up your claims or is it just going to be more "You are cause I say you are" and me pointing out how you are wrong? Because if thats it just imagine Im saying that you are wrong, a moron, and every idea you have is fundamentally flawed I think that will save us both time since its pretty accurate |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
906
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Posted - 2013.08.19 15:41:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:
Not really, now do you actually have anyway to back up your claims or is it just going to be more "You are cause I say you are" and me pointing out how you are wrong? Because if thats it just imagine Im saying that you are wrong, a moron, and every idea you have is fundamentally flawed I think that will save us both time since its pretty accurate
You complained that im the redline hiding
You complained im in the redline
You complained that im hiding
That is complaining |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1773
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Posted - 2013.08.19 15:42:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Delta 749 wrote:
Not really, now do you actually have anyway to back up your claims or is it just going to be more "You are cause I say you are" and me pointing out how you are wrong? Because if thats it just imagine Im saying that you are wrong, a moron, and every idea you have is fundamentally flawed I think that will save us both time since its pretty accurate
You complained that im the redline hiding You complained im in the redline You complained that im hiding That is complaining
you are wrong, a moron, and every idea you have is fundamentally flawed |
Skyhound Solbrave
Rough Riders..
191
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Posted - 2013.08.19 16:01:00 -
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Why can't tankers just wait for their Proto tanks? You're all just butt hurt that it isn't Tank514 like it was in chromosome. Stop complaining about AV and complain about getting your proto stuff. Seriously, just try using STD Swarms and nades on a STD tank and see how difficult it is to pop a tank. Even my ADV gear has difficulty taking down shield tanks. To be a truly effective AVer now, you NEED PRO weapons to go up against STD vehicles, or go FG I find that to be bs, personally.
Do tankers still delusionally believe that it shoulf take a squad to pop them? |
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
907
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Posted - 2013.08.19 16:03:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Delta 749 wrote:
Not really, now do you actually have anyway to back up your claims or is it just going to be more "You are cause I say you are" and me pointing out how you are wrong? Because if thats it just imagine Im saying that you are wrong, a moron, and every idea you have is fundamentally flawed I think that will save us both time since its pretty accurate
You complained that im the redline hiding You complained im in the redline You complained that im hiding That is complaining you are wrong, a moron, and every idea you have is fundamentally flawed
I can say the exact same thing about you |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
907
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Posted - 2013.08.19 16:05:00 -
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Skyhound Solbrave wrote:Why can't tankers just wait for their Proto tanks? You're all just butt hurt that it isn't Tank514 like it was in chromosome. Stop complaining about AV and complain about getting your proto stuff. Seriously, just try using STD Swarms and nades on a STD tank and see how difficult it is to pop a tank. Even my ADV gear has difficulty taking down shield tanks. To be a truly effective AVer now, you NEED PRO weapons to go up against STD vehicles, or go FG I find that to be bs, personally. Do tankers still delusionally believe that it shoulf take a squad to pop them?
lol
2-3 basic AV to take a basic tank
2-3 adv to take a adv tank - proper adv tank not a militia enforcer
2-3 proto for proto tank
You do not need proto weapons to go up against basic vehicles, you need proto to solo it
They are not supposed to be solo'd, use teamwork i have to when in my tank why should AV not have to use teamwork? |
Sylwester Dziewiecki
Beyond Hypothetical Box
144
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Posted - 2013.08.19 16:10:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Baal Omniscient wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Baal Omniscient wrote:I JUST NOW finished a match. Tanker name-KAMAKAZE DRIVER. I hit him with 3 AV grenades and 4 proto swarms in the space of approximately 25 seconds, his tank survived and he got away. 3 back to back AV grenades to start things off and 4 back to back proficiency 5 Wyrikomi swarms fired as fast as you can lock on.
Those 25 seconds were all he needed to get to where I couldn't reach him or aim at him to kill his tank and he could repp in complete safety. Not that he needed to, the match ended as soon as he got to safety.
Why don't you go ask him how he runs his tank, because by your accounts you obviously can't keep a tank alive through all of that. He can and did.
As do most tankers. You missed out half the story In 25secs i can run back to the redline What map, what mode, what tank, where were you, what route did he take, what did he do, did he just take off, did anything hit or did you think it hit etc etc etc Too many details missing so whats to make me think that you just didnt make it up on the spot to prove a point? Ask him, I gave you his name. I didn't know you needed a story teller to recount the tale for you. Communications, madruger. Here's the map, follow along. I was at I6, he barrels into the city from I/J3, he kills me and 2-3 others while we're in a fire fight across the street between A & B, I respawn at K7 and he's at E12 shooting through the gap at G11 and rolling slowly my way. I move to the boxes at I7 and shoot a swarm as he rolls to about G9, he stops to shoot at me so I move and I toss 3 AV's from cover at the barrier at H8, he continues to creep towards me so I retreat to cover behind the boxes at I7 and manage to fire off 2 swarms, he realizes it's time to go, I'm at only 20 armor as I fire 1 more swarm at him and he rounds the corner out the west gate and circles around the back of the complex. And he's scott free. What tank? if its shield it can take some punishment from swarms at least, armor is a diff story But why swarms in the compound? why not a nanohive and instant gibbing with AV nades? Only way i can think is that you missed with AV nades dont know how but you missed and not all swarms hit it and they maybe hit the box if you tried the jump out lock fire back in cover A. As I said, Madruger B. The reason for not spamming AV's, as I mentioned above, is that the tank was coming closer to my cover and I had 6 mad mass driver nuts spamming rounds towards me. Tossing a hive and setting up shop in those conditions is not ideal, I'm lucky I managed to toss the 3 I had and get back to cover. It's part of the perils of having no primary weapon when you run AV, you can't fight back across streets like that effectively. C. Every swarm I shot connected though a single missile of the last swarm I fired nicked the barrier around the door as he was leaving. D. He had right at 1700 armor left as he was leaving the city, I was watching his health the whole time I was trying to finish him off. As I said, ask him. If he still remembers, we're sitting here dwelling on it and he's prolly moved on through another 10 matches by now. The longer you wait, the better the chance he'll forget the whole match lol A I have Madrugar with 12,4HP total, split on 5,5k~ shield and armor. When someone ask you S/A question it's good to answer with concretes, 'it was Gallente tank' doesn't give much.
Could you tell if someone was fixing him, 6 Mass equals at least 2 Repairing Tool.
I think that you was hitting his shield for most of the time. |
Skyhound Solbrave
Rough Riders..
191
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Posted - 2013.08.19 16:17:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Skyhound Solbrave wrote:Why can't tankers just wait for their Proto tanks? You're all just butt hurt that it isn't Tank514 like it was in chromosome. Stop complaining about AV and complain about getting your proto stuff. Seriously, just try using STD Swarms and nades on a STD tank and see how difficult it is to pop a tank. Even my ADV gear has difficulty taking down shield tanks. To be a truly effective AVer now, you NEED PRO weapons to go up against STD vehicles, or go FG I find that to be bs, personally. Do tankers still delusionally believe that it shoulf take a squad to pop them? lol 2-3 basic AV to take a basic tank 2-3 adv to take a adv tank - proper adv tank not a militia enforcer 2-3 proto for proto tank You do not need proto weapons to go up against basic vehicles, you need proto to solo it They are not supposed to be solo'd, use teamwork i have to when in my tank why should AV not have to use teamwork?
Because you are one guy. It should not take more than one person to take out one guy. What teamwork do you have to use that isn't likr every other infantry on the field?
Going be your own logic, it would take 15 people to take out 5 guys in properly fitted tanks. That leaves the fully tanked team with 10 regular infantry to kill the 15 AVers that are gimped with only sidearms. Call me crazy if i think it's unbalanced for a whole team having to take out a single squad. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
907
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Posted - 2013.08.19 16:23:00 -
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Skyhound Solbrave wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Skyhound Solbrave wrote:Why can't tankers just wait for their Proto tanks? You're all just butt hurt that it isn't Tank514 like it was in chromosome. Stop complaining about AV and complain about getting your proto stuff. Seriously, just try using STD Swarms and nades on a STD tank and see how difficult it is to pop a tank. Even my ADV gear has difficulty taking down shield tanks. To be a truly effective AVer now, you NEED PRO weapons to go up against STD vehicles, or go FG I find that to be bs, personally. Do tankers still delusionally believe that it shoulf take a squad to pop them? lol 2-3 basic AV to take a basic tank 2-3 adv to take a adv tank - proper adv tank not a militia enforcer 2-3 proto for proto tank You do not need proto weapons to go up against basic vehicles, you need proto to solo it They are not supposed to be solo'd, use teamwork i have to when in my tank why should AV not have to use teamwork? Because you are one guy. It should not take more than one person to take out one guy. What teamwork do you have to use that isn't likr every other infantry on the field? Going be your own logic, it would take 15 people to take out 5 guys in properly fitted tanks. That leaves the fully tanked team with 10 regular infantry to kill the 15 AVers that are gimped with only sidearms. Call me crazy if i think it's unbalanced for a whole team having to take out a single squad.
Tough ****, what makes you think it will stay 16v16 forever? in pubs or PC infantry take objectives aslong as you can defend them jobs a good en and last i checked a vehicle cant hack or even enter the city anyways
The teamwork i use on a daily basis, generally me and another tank, sometimes 3 because why not, spider tanking even or just general covering, a sniper if we can get one to pick off AV that we cant see or hit, sometimes a gunner, i tend to get a bluedot anyways but they are useless - Even with all that proto still fucks up your day and tank |
Shokhann Echo
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2013.08.19 17:03:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Taka you have shown no evidence of people saying these things
You just go with "you want you want you want" putting words in others mouths with nothing to back it up Your arguments lack and you portray yourself in a pathetic manner and getting so worked up for being killed in a game makes me believe you should seek professional counseling for what I imagine is a horrible inferiority complex
Good day sir
and you have no evidence of any tanker wanting to be invincible, all we ever talk about is wanting actual balance, all you want are crutches and broken gameplay that go in your favor |
Dr Stabwounds
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
76
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Posted - 2013.08.19 17:07:00 -
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Good vid and post LRH |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
387
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Posted - 2013.08.19 17:07:00 -
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lowratehitman wrote:The reason that I am able to take advantage of these tanks on the battlefield is not due to my OP av grenades, it is due to the mentality of 60-75 % of the tank drivers currently in Dust 514. If they see a red dot on the mini map, they instantly charge for the kill, and opposed to what some will lead you to believe, the reason that mentality is there is due to tankers being allowed to Rambo the field and not encounter av grenades. ( They poop their pants when they actually do bum rush a AV grenadier) Back in the day, dominant tank drivers was known by name due to their skills and due to the squad that they carry as protection, imagine that, a tank squad. In the video below when you read the comment section you will hear various excuses for the tank driver in question.... all the way to blaming me for not telling the accurate shield and armor #'s. In the video AV grenade community....... If this is how you kill your tanks, please express so. I do not even have to chase tanks anymore, once I am a red dot on their mini map.... they come to me :) Dust 514 : Why My AV Grenades Dominate Tanks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7axvE-844Hw It's a Sica! LOL! You need PRO AV grenades to blow up a barebones Sica? You're pretty bad. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
388
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Posted - 2013.08.19 17:09:00 -
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lowratehitman wrote:calisk galern wrote:better question why doesn't AV dominate lav's
like "how many licks to the center of a tootsie roll pop?" the world will never know Dust 514 : Destroying 4 LAV's In Under 1 Minute http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laoXHCsk3hw BPO/ STD LAVs |
Shokhann Echo
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2013.08.19 17:11:00 -
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Skyhound Solbrave wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Skyhound Solbrave wrote:Why can't tankers just wait for their Proto tanks? You're all just butt hurt that it isn't Tank514 like it was in chromosome. Stop complaining about AV and complain about getting your proto stuff. Seriously, just try using STD Swarms and nades on a STD tank and see how difficult it is to pop a tank. Even my ADV gear has difficulty taking down shield tanks. To be a truly effective AVer now, you NEED PRO weapons to go up against STD vehicles, or go FG I find that to be bs, personally. Do tankers still delusionally believe that it shoulf take a squad to pop them? lol 2-3 basic AV to take a basic tank 2-3 adv to take a adv tank - proper adv tank not a militia enforcer 2-3 proto for proto tank You do not need proto weapons to go up against basic vehicles, you need proto to solo it They are not supposed to be solo'd, use teamwork i have to when in my tank why should AV not have to use teamwork? Because you are one guy. It should not take more than one person to take out one guy. What teamwork do you have to use that isn't likr every other infantry on the field? Going be your own logic, it would take 15 people to take out 5 guys in properly fitted tanks. That leaves the fully tanked team with 10 regular infantry to kill the 15 AVers that are gimped with only sidearms. Call me crazy if i think it's unbalanced for a whole team having to take out a single squad.
I may be one guy but im inside a 50 ton vehicle that's big enough for 3 people to get ing and **** everything up for their own team. tell me, how is that logical? |
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Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
388
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Posted - 2013.08.19 17:12:00 -
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lowratehitman wrote:True Adamance wrote:lowratehitman wrote:True Adamance wrote:lowratehitman wrote:The reason that I am able to take advantage of these tanks on the battlefield is not due to my OP av grenades, it is due to the mentality of 60-75 % of the tank drivers currently in Dust 514. If they see a red dot on the mini map, they instantly charge for the kill, and opposed to what some will lead you to believe, the reason that mentality is there is due to tankers being allowed to Rambo the field and not encounter av grenades. ( They poop their pants when they actually do bum rush a AV grenadier) Back in the day, dominant tank drivers was known by name due to their skills and due to the squad that they carry as protection, imagine that, a tank squad. In the video below when you read the comment section you will hear various excuses for the tank driver in question.... all the way to blaming me for not telling the accurate shield and armor #'s. In the video AV grenade community....... If this is how you kill your tanks, please express so. I do not even have to chase tanks anymore, once I am a red dot on their mini map.... they come to me :) Dust 514 : Why My AV Grenades Dominate Tanks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7axvE-844Hw Nah its primarily because AV nades are pretty ridiculously good, this criticism coming from an dedicated AV nader, and personally I want to see these grenades die their final dealth since it doesn't make sense to have enough explosive charge to penetrate 800mm or great Armour plates in such a small charge or at least see Nanohives not restock grenades. I agree the Lai DAI needs to be fixed, which I have never used them just due to them being broke. I am a full time AV nader and full heartedly dis agree with you. AV grenades help create balance, and are a much needed resource. Well at least you have o agree that removing the grenade resupply for nanohives is a must. I should never be able to solo a tank, let alone stand on a single grenade regening hive and just blap tanks with my endless stream of illogical grenades.....Grenades should be a tactical choice... spamming the hell out of them should not be a viable strategy. Sure you should be able to solo a tank.... why should you not? the military teaches you how to solo tanks in real life....what is so different? Syria - Grenade vs Tank!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTSAuaNAGpM That wasn't a frag. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
388
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Posted - 2013.08.19 17:13:00 -
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lowratehitman wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Yes, the new players here are complete morons like that one in the video, he dident know what hes doing and got himself blown up! The mentality of most tankers are biased by the totally noobisim, its ********. Actually, it is justified because all the veteran tanks stoped playing or switched classes because tanks are no longer fun to play, all the AV was buffed and all the tanks were nerfed, only someone new to dust would really want to play tanks now. Of course, a select few of us vets still do tank and we do not often put our tanks in harms way, charge infaintry at AV nade range with railguns or even attempt to enter their range at all! We are great tankers. Too bad we dont tank anymore tho, its really not worth it and ppl running around with AV nades powerfull enough for a single person with a nanohive to kill you before you run away is one of them.
How can you say the playerbase will drop if the AV nades are taken away or balanced? There is proper AV in this game and they are all brutally and unfairly effective. so effective, in fact there is no way for tanks to deal with them, we have standard vehicals vs proto, max skilled AV and we die. AV nades should be removed or made more reasonable, its a grenade. You killed that tank in about 4 seconds and it was a sica, resistant to explosives. That is a proto AV nade. The best we have are standard tanks and shield tanks arnt even usable, its all about armor tanking. Thats even weaker to AV nades, of course it does too much damage. Just think, what if you had 2 ppl throwing grenades? 3 second pop on milita and standard tanks?
Their grenades! There is proper AV in this game, and a grenade should never 3 shot a tank! Yes, im saying someone with an assault rifle should loose against a tank every single time, no questions asked gaurentee die vs a tank unless he has mines or det packs. Am i wrong to say that?
Maple.... I was not able to destroy your tank with my solo proto av nades on several occasions. I believe you under estimate the strength of your tank brother....... I know better Because he knows what he's doing, and doesn't run a militia tank. Of course it'll be much more difficult to destroy him opposed to some new guy in a militia tank. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
388
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Posted - 2013.08.19 17:18:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: **** I take it back...... the hell kind of grenade is that?
Maybe thermite |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative..
670
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Posted - 2013.08.19 17:21:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:. . . a single guy using AV grenades will never bring down a properly fit tank and at most tickle a properly fit and properly driven tank.
. .
Wrong. If the situation is right, tossing the hive on ground and then singing the song "Lai dai lai dai lai dai lai dai lai dai" does the trick.
Emphasis on the situationality, if you get behing the tanks escape route you can do that - easily. Sometimes there is absolutely no way of AV nading a red tank because of red infantry/no cover/tank never comes close/only approach route is covered by main turret. Situationality. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
388
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Posted - 2013.08.19 17:24:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:See now you get it, way to many tankers just try to park next to you and dont even attempt to stay out of the danger zone until they will die to the next grenade and then blame what killed them being OP So, you wanna squad up today with your "tank alt" so you can show me "how to drive" a tank? |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative..
670
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Posted - 2013.08.19 17:24:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:
I think AV nades have a place, and that is to keep vehicle users from being able to rambo into a crowd of people and dominate.
The opposite is true, it means that at any time a couple of guys can rally together in their LLAV and go all jihad on any tank in the game with MLT suits and a box of AV grenades. As long as you don't act a fool and flip the thing in front of the tank, you can probably get a pretty basic LLAV to within throwing range most of the time. Then it is game over for the tank.
True but it takes some time to set it up and co-operation by several people. As a tanker I approve of this method of dying. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
388
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Posted - 2013.08.19 17:28:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:The whole problem with tank vs Av argument. Is that tank drivers feel it should take more than one Av person to kill them which on paper sounds fine expect that in public matches that level of team work is impossible to find and leads to tanks steanrolling everyone which great for the tanker but awful for everyone else.
What needs to happen is that one player through great effort can just about kill a tank. But only if that driver makes a mistake. Likes fails to bug out in time. And that damaging tanks gives warpoints instead of just the kill So why should the game be balanced for pub matches that don't mean anything? |
Buddha Brown
Factory Fresh
285
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Posted - 2013.08.19 17:30:00 -
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AV nades for the win
No nerfs for AV nades
Drive your tank elsewhere |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.19 17:31:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:People wouldn't be using AV grenades so much if regular AV did it's job. Just sayin'. 2 proto AVers (not AV grenadiers) can barely take out a really well fit tank right now, and these are STD tanks. Things are going to be ungodly stupid once ADV and PROTO tanks come back. LOL You're joking. |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative..
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Posted - 2013.08.19 17:32:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Delta 749 wrote:
Not really, now do you actually have anyway to back up your claims or is it just going to be more "You are cause I say you are" and me pointing out how you are wrong? Because if thats it just imagine Im saying that you are wrong, a moron, and every idea you have is fundamentally flawed I think that will save us both time since its pretty accurate
You complained that im the redline hiding You complained im in the redline You complained that im hiding That is complaining you are wrong, a moron, and every idea you have is fundamentally flawed I can say the exact same thing about you
You guys go take a room. Or another thread. |
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