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Delta 749
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Posted - 2013.08.19 07:59:00 -
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See now you get it, way to many tankers just try to park next to you and dont even attempt to stay out of the danger zone until they will die to the next grenade and then blame what killed them being OP |
Delta 749
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Posted - 2013.08.19 08:04:00 -
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Shokhann Echo wrote:Delta 749 wrote:See now you get it, way to many new tankers just try to park next to you and dont even attempt to stay out of the danger zone until they will die to the next grenade and then blame what killed them being OP fixed it for you
You say that but honestly I see the long time tankers who have refused to adapt from the old days do it more often Not saying new tankers dont do it but they usually learn pretty quick it that its a stupid idea and to keep some distance from infantry cover at the very least |
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Posted - 2013.08.19 11:56:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:'Why my tank shouldn't die to AV 'nades'
Whine whine whine my tank dies when I try to rush people instead of keeping my distance and dominating from safety, moan moan moan I hate using cover and planning escape routes, complain complain complain no one likes guarding my tank as a squad tactic because they find it boring so I have to try to solo everything 'cause no one wants to help me, whinge whinge whinge I'm not OP enough so that makes everything else OP
By Brokenrecord Kashuken, A.K.A. English Snake Fixed that for ya'
I know right, I believe I have seen him call all AV but the plasma cannon a crutch |
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Posted - 2013.08.19 12:13:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Baal Omniscient wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:'Why my tank shouldn't die to AV 'nades'
Whine whine whine my tank dies when I try to rush people instead of keeping my distance and dominating from safety, moan moan moan I hate using cover and planning escape routes, complain complain complain no one likes guarding my tank as a squad tactic because they find it boring so I have to try to solo everything 'cause no one wants to help me, whinge whinge whinge I'm not OP enough so that makes everything else OP
By Brokenrecord Kashuken, A.K.A. English Snake Fixed that for ya' I know right, I believe I have seen him call all AV but the plasma cannon a crutch Wrong FG is nearly fine by me, the damage is another thing but they have to aim at least Plasma cannon is a funny weapon but once again they have to aim, and aim more than any other AV weapon in the game, its the hardest AV weapon to use thats why its rarely seen, on the other hand crutch swarms are everywhere
So the only one you wont complain about is the one thats nearly impossible to destroy a vehicle with? Cant hit anything in the sky Doesnt do enough damage to take out an LAV before it has to reload and recharge the shot giving ample time to get run over And again does not do enough damage to take out an HAV without giving them ample time to move out of range or to kill them unless the driver is in the restroom
The reason you dont see it isnt because its not a "crutch" but because its atrocious in its role |
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Posted - 2013.08.19 12:25:00 -
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Ok seriously shut up about swarms
Im not saying this to be mean or anything but if you are an adult its ******* pathetic that you devote so much time and energy into posting crutch this and crutch that ad nauseum I have not seen you post in a thread yet that hasnt devolved into you kicking and screaming on the floor like a child
Again Im not saying this to be mean or insult you but if you want people to take you seriously than stop acting like a child |
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Posted - 2013.08.19 12:49:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Ok seriously shut up about swarms
Im not saying this to be mean or anything but if you are an adult its ******* pathetic that you devote so much time and energy into posting crutch this and crutch that ad nauseum I have not seen you post in a thread yet that hasnt devolved into you kicking and screaming on the floor like a child
Again Im not saying this to be mean or insult you but if you want people to take you seriously than stop acting like a child lol crutch user you mad? Kicking and screaming thats rich coming from AV and infantry, its all they did to get all vehicles nerfed into the ******* ground because they refused to skill into AV kept using milita and kept doing it solo, you wont be happy until you can kill it with a clip from a militia rifle 5 builds and 5 sets of nerfs Vehicles are still trucking in while still infantry want to nerf them even more, i routinely use more teamwork than my AV counterparts but that doesnt count because im in a vehicle, i adapt and adapt and adapt even more to get the best out of my vehicle when im losing skills from the tree, losing mods, losing hulls, gaining 'advanced militia' hull as a sidegrade and all while im using the basic hull and mods because we dont have advanced/proto hulls/mods yet we are put against adv/proto AV in every game and are told to HTFU and deal with it They complain when i dont help the team, they complain when i rail snipe, they complain when i dont move because i have an idiot blue dot in the gun seat spamming it at our MCC, they complain how all i do is look after my investment, all infantry do is complain about anything i do yet do infantry help me? lolno thats teamwork and your a tank you should be fine and be able to stand upto all the AV being thrown at you But we cant, ive tried every method in the book to keep a tank alive and the best one which is still unbeaten is redline rail sniping, even using teamwork a single lolproto crutch swarm user can just say nope imma **** you all up anyways with my crutch while we the vehicle users consistantly use teamwork to try and avoid the shitstorm double standards much?
Like I said, ranting like a child and hyperbolic statements are not the way to get people to take you seriously |
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Posted - 2013.08.19 13:04:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Ok seriously shut up about swarms
Im not saying this to be mean or anything but if you are an adult its ******* pathetic that you devote so much time and energy into posting crutch this and crutch that ad nauseum I have not seen you post in a thread yet that hasnt devolved into you kicking and screaming on the floor like a child
Again Im not saying this to be mean or insult you but if you want people to take you seriously than stop acting like a child lol crutch user you mad? Kicking and screaming thats rich coming from AV and infantry, its all they did to get all vehicles nerfed into the ******* ground because they refused to skill into AV kept using milita and kept doing it solo, you wont be happy until you can kill it with a clip from a militia rifle 5 builds and 5 sets of nerfs Vehicles are still trucking in while still infantry want to nerf them even more, i routinely use more teamwork than my AV counterparts but that doesnt count because im in a vehicle, i adapt and adapt and adapt even more to get the best out of my vehicle when im losing skills from the tree, losing mods, losing hulls, gaining 'advanced militia' hull as a sidegrade and all while im using the basic hull and mods because we dont have advanced/proto hulls/mods yet we are put against adv/proto AV in every game and are told to HTFU and deal with it They complain when i dont help the team, they complain when i rail snipe, they complain when i dont move because i have an idiot blue dot in the gun seat spamming it at our MCC, they complain how all i do is look after my investment, all infantry do is complain about anything i do yet do infantry help me? lolno thats teamwork and your a tank you should be fine and be able to stand upto all the AV being thrown at you But we cant, ive tried every method in the book to keep a tank alive and the best one which is still unbeaten is redline rail sniping, even using teamwork a single lolproto crutch swarm user can just say nope imma **** you all up anyways with my crutch while we the vehicle users consistantly use teamwork to try and avoid the shitstorm double standards much? Like I said, ranting like a child and hyperbolic statements are not the way to get people to take you seriously Okay for infantry and AV to do it but for vehicle lolno Like i said double standards much
Show me the hyperbolic arguments made by infantry in this thread Show me where we demanded to kill tanks with rifles Hell show me a recent thread calling for a nerf and not us saying things are fine where they are now
You say youve been adapting but still die all the time, well I have bad news friend that just means you are a bad player Hell other tank drivers have said they do alright just by using their brains while playing
Oh and lets not forget that you claim you support your team but then you constantly ***** about others, nevermind that the tank drivers I see that actually do work as a team with infantry players get nothing but respect
But you know something, I believe the game that you really want is right here Happy trails, auf wiedersehen, sayonara, so long, dont let the door hit you on the way out |
Delta 749
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Posted - 2013.08.19 13:27:00 -
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Taka you have shown no evidence of people saying these things
You just go with "you want you want you want" putting words in others mouths with nothing to back it up Your arguments lack and you portray yourself in a pathetic manner and getting so worked up for being killed in a game makes me believe you should seek professional counseling for what I imagine is a horrible inferiority complex
Good day sir |
Delta 749
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Posted - 2013.08.19 13:29:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:About your vid:
I agree there are foolish tankers and great tankers, but a single guy being able to insta-kill a HAV at close range 1v1 seems... kinda stupid to me.
I mean, that's a Tank vs Man, that makes no sense.
Your AV nades should force the HAV to retreat, or at least give it the time to do so.
Of course, this is only my opinion...
Hey Solid Snake did it and he didnt have any nanohives |
Delta 749
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Posted - 2013.08.19 13:35:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Taka you have shown no evidence of people saying these things
You just go with "you want you want you want" putting words in others mouths with nothing to back it up Your arguments lack and you portray yourself in a pathetic manner and getting so worked up for being killed in a game makes me believe you should seek professional counseling for what I imagine is a horrible inferiority complex
Good day sir How can you play the game? That bias must be clouding your vision i dont know how you see the TV let alone the tanks with your crutch but you dont need to see the tank lock on fire and forget so great even a blind man has a chance
Attempting to deflect attention away from the holes in your logic 1/10 and the 1 is from pity Ironically your "swarms are a crutch" argument is a crutch you yourself lean on when pressed for proof to back up your claims or when you need a straw to grasp at
Now I believe I said good day |
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Delta 749
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Posted - 2013.08.19 13:47:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Taka you have shown no evidence of people saying these things
You just go with "you want you want you want" putting words in others mouths with nothing to back it up Your arguments lack and you portray yourself in a pathetic manner and getting so worked up for being killed in a game makes me believe you should seek professional counseling for what I imagine is a horrible inferiority complex
Good day sir How can you play the game? That bias must be clouding your vision i dont know how you see the TV let alone the tanks with your crutch but you dont need to see the tank lock on fire and forget so great even a blind man has a chance Attempting to deflect attention away from the holes in your logic 1/10 and the 1 is from pity Ironically your "swarms are a crutch" argument is a crutch you yourself lean on when pressed for proof to back up your claims or when you need a straw to grasp at Now I believe I said good day Holes in my logic lol Corner bending missiles - Around corners/cover, basically OP since cover is useless Insta locking - Can fire so many volleys in a short time, the lock on is too quick - Sorry 1.5sec thats so long Locking through objects - Once again you may be able to see a tiny corner of the tank which then reveals the big red square for you to lock on to, problem is the big red square is through 5ft of concrete so you really shouldnt be able to lock on to it Maintaining lock - Now you can maintain lock even when you are not looking at the target Bunny hopping - You can lock on and fire when bunny hopping, try that with a FG and you miss the vast majority of the time Problems with the swarms, funny thing is you think its all fine according to your logic, except it not logic its bias and delusional bias at that
Myself and many others have pointed out the flaws in your "logic" in this very thread even IIRC, dont feel like double checking this particular thread though And thats not even getting to the irony of saying others are delusional and steeped in irony |
Delta 749
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Posted - 2013.08.19 14:00:00 -
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AV nades, working as intended, homing range is useless on the most powerful, PL definitely needs a buff and the mines need a buff
You, about to QQ about any AV at all getting a buff I would love to see you in action sometime if you are a hot shot tanker, hell Ill even squad up with you and defend you from the mean old AV if it means I get a chance to see you drive Like Ive mentioned before I just think you are a terrible driver and want to see how close to the mark I am, do you think youll be playing this evening? |
Delta 749
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Posted - 2013.08.19 14:10:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Delta 749 wrote:AV nades, working as intended, homing range is useless on the most powerful, PL definitely needs a buff and the mines need a buff
You, about to QQ about any AV at all getting a buff I would love to see you in action sometime if you are a hot shot tanker, hell Ill even squad up with you and defend you from the mean old AV if it means I get a chance to see you drive Like Ive mentioned before I just think you are a terrible driver and want to see how close to the mark I am, do you think youll be playing this evening? Wrong Ive said AV mines and PL need a buff, your bias is blinding you again In action i used to play PC, basic vs proto all day, tank fights were fun until AV got involved, generally always killed more than i died and same with tank fights always coming out on top but in general tanks were useless on both sides and only ther for being ther I think your terrible AV player who needs his crutch, im on most days anyways
AV nades - more powerful than mines and AV weapons like PL, homing crutch so you never miss, no aiming required, used as a primary AV weapon
Remove the homing crutch, swap the damage with AV mines and its okay
Now show me where in that statement you said the PL needs a buff and werent just QQing about the grenade damage? And Ill send you a message when I get on to see if you want to squad up still, if I could I would record it to show everyone your tanking ability Oh heads up, Ill stick with you but if you do something stupid like drive into a bunch of guys and expect nothing to happen Im bailing out since I dont feel like needlessly dying |
Delta 749
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Posted - 2013.08.19 14:30:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Delta 749 wrote:AV nades, working as intended, homing range is useless on the most powerful, PL definitely needs a buff and the mines need a buff
You, about to QQ about any AV at all getting a buff I would love to see you in action sometime if you are a hot shot tanker, hell Ill even squad up with you and defend you from the mean old AV if it means I get a chance to see you drive Like Ive mentioned before I just think you are a terrible driver and want to see how close to the mark I am, do you think youll be playing this evening? Wrong Ive said AV mines and PL need a buff, your bias is blinding you again In action i used to play PC, basic vs proto all day, tank fights were fun until AV got involved, generally always killed more than i died and same with tank fights always coming out on top but in general tanks were useless on both sides and only ther for being ther I think your terrible AV player who needs his crutch, im on most days anyways AV nades - more powerful than mines and AV weapons like PL, homing crutch so you never miss, no aiming required, used as a primary AV weapon Remove the homing crutch, swap the damage with AV mines and its okay Now show me where in that statement you said the PL needs a buff and werent just QQing about the grenade damage? And Ill send you a message when I get on to see if you want to squad up still, if I could I would record it to show everyone your tanking ability Oh heads up, Ill stick with you but if you do something stupid like drive into a bunch of guys and expect nothing to happen Im bailing out since I dont feel like needlessly dying Pulls out a random quote which proves his bais I already said it and i dunno where Somthing about speed up the projectile and maybe reduce the arcing of it in general thats all it needs since its a high arcing slow moving projectile I dont drive into a bunch of guys and stop still you idiot, then again i keep my distance, 400m away on the hill with a railgun thats much safer so really why do i need you in my tank again taking up space?
Not a random quote, something you had literally just said and referenced to try and defend yourself Anyway I see youve gone the route of hiding in the red line, good for survivability but definitely not admirable in anyway
Although this does beg the question, with that huge distance gap lowering swarm launcher damage output and being able to duck behind a ridge to block all damage how is it that they kill you so often? Thats what I want to see |
Delta 749
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Posted - 2013.08.19 14:59:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Delta 749 wrote:
Not a random quote, something you had literally just said and referenced to try and defend yourself Anyway I see youve gone the route of hiding in the red line, good for survivability but definitely not admirable in anyway
Although this does beg the question, with that huge distance gap lowering swarm launcher damage output and being able to duck behind a ridge to block all damage how is it that they kill you so often? Thats what I want to see
There we have it Infantry complaining yet again because im in the redline so i survive Sawrms/FG/OB they dont kill me when im in my redline When im in my redline im doing what you are doing when on top of a tower covering the area yet its fine for infantry and AV to do it but not for a vehicle - double standards again
Tell me how that was complaining at all Seriously explain how saying what you do was good for survivability but not admirable was complaining
Grasp at those straws but please try to back up what you say and explain how you reached your conclusion instead of going "look look see see I knew it was like that but Im not going to say how my point was proved" |
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Posted - 2013.08.19 15:09:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Delta 749 wrote:
Not a random quote, something you had literally just said and referenced to try and defend yourself Anyway I see youve gone the route of hiding in the red line, good for survivability but definitely not admirable in anyway
Although this does beg the question, with that huge distance gap lowering swarm launcher damage output and being able to duck behind a ridge to block all damage how is it that they kill you so often? Thats what I want to see
There we have it Infantry complaining yet again because im in the redline so i survive Sawrms/FG/OB they dont kill me when im in my redline When im in my redline im doing what you are doing when on top of a tower covering the area yet its fine for infantry and AV to do it but not for a vehicle - double standards again Tell me how that was complaining at all Seriously explain how saying what you do was good for survivability but not admirable was complaining Grasp at those straws but please try to back up what you say and explain how you reached your conclusion instead of going "look look see see I knew it was like that but Im not going to say how my point was proved" Complaining that and your words 'im hiding in the redline' not camping or just sat on a hill but hiding yet AV do it all the time but its fine because they are infantry aka double standards again
Flawed argument since I consider anyone that hides in the redline as not admirable whether they be sniper, av, tanker, etc etc so theres no double standard Try again |
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Posted - 2013.08.19 15:17:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Delta 749 wrote:
Flawed argument since I consider anyone that hides in the redline as not admirable whether they be sniper, av, tanker, etc etc so theres no double standard Try again
How is it flawed? You complained that im the redline hiding You complained im in the redline You complained that im hiding That is complaining You are complaining because im not in the field 'supporting idiots' who generally dont support the tank anyways
Flawed because I did not complain, I just said it wasnt admirable Did I say that you shouldnt do it? Did I say it was somehow unfair? Did I say that you need to come out onto the rest of the field?
Nope, I just said I dont admire you for doing it so thats where you argument is flawed, well in one way at least The other was you trying to say I had a double standard going on
Are you like 14? You argue like a teenager and if you are then I just feel bad now |
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Posted - 2013.08.19 15:28:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Delta 749 wrote:
Flawed argument since I consider anyone that hides in the redline as not admirable whether they be sniper, av, tanker, etc etc so theres no double standard Try again
How is it flawed? You complained that im the redline hiding You complained im in the redline You complained that im hiding That is complaining You are complaining because im not in the field 'supporting idiots' who generally dont support the tank anyways Flawed because I did not complain, I just said it wasnt admirable Did I say that you shouldnt do it? Did I say it was somehow unfair? Did I say that you need to come out onto the rest of the field? Nope, I just said I dont admire you for doing it so thats where you argument is flawed, well in one way at least The other was you trying to say I had a double standard going on Are you like 14? You argue like a teenager and if you are then I just feel bad now You complained and you are still doing it
Not really, now do you actually have anyway to back up your claims or is it just going to be more "You are cause I say you are" and me pointing out how you are wrong? Because if thats it just imagine Im saying that you are wrong, a moron, and every idea you have is fundamentally flawed I think that will save us both time since its pretty accurate |
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Posted - 2013.08.19 15:42:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Delta 749 wrote:
Not really, now do you actually have anyway to back up your claims or is it just going to be more "You are cause I say you are" and me pointing out how you are wrong? Because if thats it just imagine Im saying that you are wrong, a moron, and every idea you have is fundamentally flawed I think that will save us both time since its pretty accurate
You complained that im the redline hiding You complained im in the redline You complained that im hiding That is complaining
you are wrong, a moron, and every idea you have is fundamentally flawed |
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Posted - 2013.08.20 07:35:00 -
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Shokhann Echo wrote:just out of curiosity, what the hell restarted al the fuss about av/tnks a few days ago anyway? I mean, 1.5 still wont be here for another month or so, so what the hell caused this uproar to begin with?
Near as I can figure one guy got blown up one time to many so made a butt hurt thread, others told him he was tripping, and then the rest of the tankers were awoken from their slumber to QQ up a storm thats been going on for a few days |
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