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lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 871	Posted - 2013.08.19 05:41:00 - [1] - Quote The reason that I am able to take advantage of these tanks on the battlefield is not due to my OP av grenades, it is due to the mentality of 60-75 % of the tank drivers currently in Dust 514. If they see a red dot on the mini map, they instantly charge for the kill, and opposed to what some will lead you to believe, the reason that mentality is there is due to tankers being allowed to Rambo the field and not encounter av grenades. ( They poop their pants when they actually do bum rush a AV grenadier) Back in the day, dominant tank drivers was known by name due to their skills and due to the squad that they carry as protection, imagine that, a tank squad. In the video below when you read the comment section you will hear various excuses for the tank driver in question.... all the way to blaming me for not telling the accurate shield and armor #'s. In the video AV grenade community....... If this is how you kill your tanks, please express so. I do not even have to chase tanks anymore, once I am a red dot on their mini map.... they come to me :) Dust 514 : Why My AV Grenades Dominate Tanks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7axvE-844Hw
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F 741	Posted - 2013.08.19 05:48:00 - [2] - Quote better question why doesn't AV dominate lav's like "how many licks to the center of a tootsie roll pop?" the world will never know
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 872	Posted - 2013.08.19 06:02:00 - [3] - Quote calisk galern wrote: better question why doesn't AV dominate lav's like "how many licks to the center of a tootsie roll pop?" the world will never know Dust 514 : Destroying 4 LAV's In Under 1 Minute http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laoXHCsk3hw
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1348	Posted - 2013.08.19 06:10:00 - [4] - Quote lowratehitman wrote: The reason that I am able to take advantage of these tanks on the battlefield is not due to my OP av grenades, it is due to the mentality of 60-75 % of the tank drivers currently in Dust 514. If they see a red dot on the mini map, they instantly charge for the kill, and opposed to what some will lead you to believe, the reason that mentality is there is due to tankers being allowed to Rambo the field and not encounter av grenades. ( They poop their pants when they actually do bum rush a AV grenadier) Back in the day, dominant tank drivers was known by name due to their skills and due to the squad that they carry as protection, imagine that, a tank squad. In the video below when you read the comment section you will hear various excuses for the tank driver in question.... all the way to blaming me for not telling the accurate shield and armor #'s. In the video AV grenade community....... If this is how you kill your tanks, please express so. I do not even have to chase tanks anymore, once I am a red dot on their mini map.... they come to me :) Dust 514 : Why My AV Grenades Dominate Tanks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7axvE-844Hw Nah its primarily because AV nades are pretty ridiculously good, this criticism coming from an dedicated AV nader, and personally I want to see these grenades die their final dealth since it doesn't make sense to have enough explosive charge to penetrate 800mm or great Armour plates in such a small charge or at least see Nanohives not restock grenades.
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 872	Posted - 2013.08.19 06:13:00 - [5] - Quote True Adamance wrote: lowratehitman wrote: The reason that I am able to take advantage of these tanks on the battlefield is not due to my OP av grenades, it is due to the mentality of 60-75 % of the tank drivers currently in Dust 514. If they see a red dot on the mini map, they instantly charge for the kill, and opposed to what some will lead you to believe, the reason that mentality is there is due to tankers being allowed to Rambo the field and not encounter av grenades. ( They poop their pants when they actually do bum rush a AV grenadier) Back in the day, dominant tank drivers was known by name due to their skills and due to the squad that they carry as protection, imagine that, a tank squad. In the video below when you read the comment section you will hear various excuses for the tank driver in question.... all the way to blaming me for not telling the accurate shield and armor #'s. In the video AV grenade community....... If this is how you kill your tanks, please express so. I do not even have to chase tanks anymore, once I am a red dot on their mini map.... they come to me :) Dust 514 : Why My AV Grenades Dominate Tanks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7axvE-844Hw Nah its primarily because AV nades are pretty ridiculously good, this criticism coming from an dedicated AV nader, and personally I want to see these grenades die their final dealth since it doesn't make sense to have enough explosive charge to penetrate 800mm or great Armour plates in such a small charge or at least see Nanohives not restock grenades. I agree the Lai DAI needs to be fixed, which I have never used them just due to them being broke. I am a full time AV nader and full heartedly dis agree with you. AV grenades help create balance, and are a much needed resource.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1348	Posted - 2013.08.19 06:17:00 - [6] - Quote lowratehitman wrote: True Adamance wrote: lowratehitman wrote: The reason that I am able to take advantage of these tanks on the battlefield is not due to my OP av grenades, it is due to the mentality of 60-75 % of the tank drivers currently in Dust 514. If they see a red dot on the mini map, they instantly charge for the kill, and opposed to what some will lead you to believe, the reason that mentality is there is due to tankers being allowed to Rambo the field and not encounter av grenades. ( They poop their pants when they actually do bum rush a AV grenadier) Back in the day, dominant tank drivers was known by name due to their skills and due to the squad that they carry as protection, imagine that, a tank squad. In the video below when you read the comment section you will hear various excuses for the tank driver in question.... all the way to blaming me for not telling the accurate shield and armor #'s. In the video AV grenade community....... If this is how you kill your tanks, please express so. I do not even have to chase tanks anymore, once I am a red dot on their mini map.... they come to me :) Dust 514 : Why My AV Grenades Dominate Tanks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7axvE-844Hw Nah its primarily because AV nades are pretty ridiculously good, this criticism coming from an dedicated AV nader, and personally I want to see these grenades die their final dealth since it doesn't make sense to have enough explosive charge to penetrate 800mm or great Armour plates in such a small charge or at least see Nanohives not restock grenades. I agree the Lai DAI needs to be fixed, which I have never used them just due to them being broke. I am a full time AV nader and full heartedly dis agree with you. AV grenades help create balance, and are a much needed resource. Well at least you have o agree that removing the grenade resupply for nanohives is a must. I should never be able to solo a tank, let alone stand on a single grenade regening hive and just blap tanks with my endless stream of illogical grenades.....Grenades should be a tactical choice... spamming the hell out of them should not be a viable strategy.
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 814	Posted - 2013.08.19 06:19:00 - [7] - Quote Yes, the new players here are complete morons like that one in the video, he dident know what hes doing and got himself blown up! The mentality of most tankers are biased by the totally noobisim, its ********. Actually, it is justified because all the veteran tanks stoped playing or switched classes because tanks are no longer fun to play, all the AV was buffed and all the tanks were nerfed, only someone new to dust would really want to play tanks now. Of course, a select few of us vets still do tank and we do not often put our tanks in harms way, charge infaintry at AV nade range with railguns or even attempt to enter their range at all! We are great tankers. Too bad we dont tank anymore tho, its really not worth it and ppl running around with AV nades powerfull enough for a single person with a nanohive to kill you before you run away is one of them. How can you say the playerbase will drop if the AV nades are taken away or balanced? There is proper AV in this game and they are all brutally and unfairly effective. so effective, in fact there is no way for tanks to deal with them, we have standard vehicals vs proto, max skilled AV and we die. AV nades should be removed or made more reasonable, its a grenade. You killed that tank in about 4 seconds and it was a sica, resistant to explosives. That is a proto AV nade. The best we have are standard tanks and shield tanks arnt even usable, its all about armor tanking. Thats even weaker to AV nades, of course it does too much damage. Just think, what if you had 2 ppl throwing grenades? 3 second pop on milita and standard tanks? Their grenades! There is proper AV in this game, and a grenade should never 3 shot a tank! Yes, im saying someone with an assault rifle should loose against a tank every single time, no questions asked gaurentee die vs a tank unless he has mines or det packs. Am i wrong to say that?
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 872	Posted - 2013.08.19 06:20:00 - [8] - Quote True Adamance wrote: lowratehitman wrote: True Adamance wrote: lowratehitman wrote: The reason that I am able to take advantage of these tanks on the battlefield is not due to my OP av grenades, it is due to the mentality of 60-75 % of the tank drivers currently in Dust 514. If they see a red dot on the mini map, they instantly charge for the kill, and opposed to what some will lead you to believe, the reason that mentality is there is due to tankers being allowed to Rambo the field and not encounter av grenades. ( They poop their pants when they actually do bum rush a AV grenadier) Back in the day, dominant tank drivers was known by name due to their skills and due to the squad that they carry as protection, imagine that, a tank squad. In the video below when you read the comment section you will hear various excuses for the tank driver in question.... all the way to blaming me for not telling the accurate shield and armor #'s. In the video AV grenade community....... If this is how you kill your tanks, please express so. I do not even have to chase tanks anymore, once I am a red dot on their mini map.... they come to me :) Dust 514 : Why My AV Grenades Dominate Tanks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7axvE-844Hw Nah its primarily because AV nades are pretty ridiculously good, this criticism coming from an dedicated AV nader, and personally I want to see these grenades die their final dealth since it doesn't make sense to have enough explosive charge to penetrate 800mm or great Armour plates in such a small charge or at least see Nanohives not restock grenades. I agree the Lai DAI needs to be fixed, which I have never used them just due to them being broke. I am a full time AV nader and full heartedly dis agree with you. AV grenades help create balance, and are a much needed resource. Well at least you have o agree that removing the grenade resupply for nanohives is a must. I should never be able to solo a tank, let alone stand on a single grenade regening hive and just blap tanks with my endless stream of illogical grenades.....Grenades should be a tactical choice... spamming the hell out of them should not be a viable strategy. Sure you should be able to solo a tank.... why should you not? the military teaches you how to solo tanks in real life....what is so different? Syria - Grenade vs Tank!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTSAuaNAGpM
SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion 222	Posted - 2013.08.19 06:20:00 - [9] - Quote lowratehitman wrote: I am a full time AV nader and full heartedly dis agree with you. AV grenades help create balance, and are a much needed resource. Adjusting AV grenades wouldn't be a problem if prox mines did their job.
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 872	Posted - 2013.08.19 06:21:00 - [10] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: Yes, the new players here are complete morons like that one in the video, he dident know what hes doing and got himself blown up! The mentality of most tankers are biased by the totally noobisim, its ********. Actually, it is justified because all the veteran tanks stoped playing or switched classes because tanks are no longer fun to play, all the AV was buffed and all the tanks were nerfed, only someone new to dust would really want to play tanks now. Of course, a select few of us vets still do tank and we do not often put our tanks in harms way, charge infaintry at AV nade range with railguns or even attempt to enter their range at all! We are great tankers. Too bad we dont tank anymore tho, its really not worth it and ppl running around with AV nades powerfull enough for a single person with a nanohive to kill you before you run away is one of them. How can you say the playerbase will drop if the AV nades are taken away or balanced? There is proper AV in this game and they are all brutally and unfairly effective. so effective, in fact there is no way for tanks to deal with them, we have standard vehicals vs proto, max skilled AV and we die. AV nades should be removed or made more reasonable, its a grenade. You killed that tank in about 4 seconds and it was a sica, resistant to explosives. That is a proto AV nade. The best we have are standard tanks and shield tanks arnt even usable, its all about armor tanking. Thats even weaker to AV nades, of course it does too much damage. Just think, what if you had 2 ppl throwing grenades? 3 second pop on milita and standard tanks? Their grenades! There is proper AV in this game, and a grenade should never 3 shot a tank! Yes, im saying someone with an assault rifle should loose against a tank every single time, no questions asked gaurentee die vs a tank unless he has mines or det packs. Am i wrong to say that? Maple.... I was not able to destroy your tank with my solo proto av nades on several occasions. I believe you under estimate the strength of your tank brother....... I know better

Xender17 Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 466	Posted - 2013.08.19 06:25:00 - [11] - Quote lowratehitman wrote: calisk galern wrote: better question why doesn't AV dominate lav's like "how many licks to the center of a tootsie roll pop?" the world will never know Dust 514 : Destroying 4 LAV's In Under 1 Minute http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laoXHCsk3hw I would like everyone to take notice to what this guy says... I use AV grenades because Swarm Launchers hinder you. You have to use a sidearm. "Destroying 4 LAVs in Under 1 minute" Your suppose to freaking use AV weapons if you want to blow up vehicles and also your supposed to be hindered if your going AV. AV grenades provide to much space for opening up equal effectiveness in 2 roles.
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 815	Posted - 2013.08.19 06:28:00 - [12] - Quote lowratehitman wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Yes, the new players here are complete morons like that one in the video, he dident know what hes doing and got himself blown up! The mentality of most tankers are biased by the totally noobisim, its ********. Actually, it is justified because all the veteran tanks stoped playing or switched classes because tanks are no longer fun to play, all the AV was buffed and all the tanks were nerfed, only someone new to dust would really want to play tanks now. Of course, a select few of us vets still do tank and we do not often put our tanks in harms way, charge infaintry at AV nade range with railguns or even attempt to enter their range at all! We are great tankers. Too bad we dont tank anymore tho, its really not worth it and ppl running around with AV nades powerfull enough for a single person with a nanohive to kill you before you run away is one of them. How can you say the playerbase will drop if the AV nades are taken away or balanced? There is proper AV in this game and they are all brutally and unfairly effective. so effective, in fact there is no way for tanks to deal with them, we have standard vehicals vs proto, max skilled AV and we die. AV nades should be removed or made more reasonable, its a grenade. You killed that tank in about 4 seconds and it was a sica, resistant to explosives. That is a proto AV nade. The best we have are standard tanks and shield tanks arnt even usable, its all about armor tanking. Thats even weaker to AV nades, of course it does too much damage. Just think, what if you had 2 ppl throwing grenades? 3 second pop on milita and standard tanks? Their grenades! There is proper AV in this game, and a grenade should never 3 shot a tank! Yes, im saying someone with an assault rifle should loose against a tank every single time, no questions asked gaurentee die vs a tank unless he has mines or det packs. Am i wrong to say that? Maple.... I was not able to destroy your tank with my solo proto av nades on several occasions. I believe you under estimate the strength of your tank brother....... I know better Not trying to personally attack you dont worry :) but yeah you dident solo my tank bcuz i got away, dident want to be AV naded cuz iknow what they do to me... massive damage. Its just too much, they should be more supplimental damage and not primary AV means. They really are, you dont have to play deffensively with them ppl actively hunt tanks and sneak up them. This video shows a tank can not accelerate in time to escape an AV nade ambusher. Its brutally effective, grenades just shouldent do that
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 873	Posted - 2013.08.19 06:29:00 - [13] - Quote Xender17 wrote: lowratehitman wrote: calisk galern wrote: better question why doesn't AV dominate lav's like "how many licks to the center of a tootsie roll pop?" the world will never know Dust 514 : Destroying 4 LAV's In Under 1 Minute http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laoXHCsk3hw I would like everyone to take notice to what this guy says... I use AV grenades because Swarm Launchers hinder you. You have to use a sidearm. "Destroying 4 LAVs in Under 1 minute" Your suppose to freaking use AV weapons if you want to blow up vehicles and also your supposed to be hindered if your going AV. AV grenades provide to much space for opening up equal effectiveness in 2 roles. Im glad you listened to what the "GUY" said/ me..... You act as if I created this game... or if we was just allowed to start carrying AV grenades.... in the video is exactly HOW AV has always worked on standard LAV and should continue....
Cosgar ParagonX 4315	Posted - 2013.08.19 06:31:00 - [14] - Quote Xender17 wrote: lowratehitman wrote: calisk galern wrote: better question why doesn't AV dominate lav's like "how many licks to the center of a tootsie roll pop?" the world will never know Dust 514 : Destroying 4 LAV's In Under 1 Minute http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laoXHCsk3hw I would like everyone to take notice to what this guy says... I use AV grenades because Swarm Launchers hinder you. You have to use a sidearm. "Destroying 4 LAVs in Under 1 minute" Your suppose to freaking use AV weapons if you want to blow up vehicles and also your supposed to be hindered if your going AV. AV grenades provide to much space for opening up equal effectiveness in 2 roles. That's what it boils down to. AV grenades are too effective for the versatility they offer compared to a primary AV weapon that's meant to hinder your AI effectiveness.
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 873	Posted - 2013.08.19 06:32:00 - [15] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: lowratehitman wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Yes, the new players here are complete morons like that one in the video, he dident know what hes doing and got himself blown up! The mentality of most tankers are biased by the totally noobisim, its ********. Actually, it is justified because all the veteran tanks stoped playing or switched classes because tanks are no longer fun to play, all the AV was buffed and all the tanks were nerfed, only someone new to dust would really want to play tanks now. Of course, a select few of us vets still do tank and we do not often put our tanks in harms way, charge infaintry at AV nade range with railguns or even attempt to enter their range at all! We are great tankers. Too bad we dont tank anymore tho, its really not worth it and ppl running around with AV nades powerfull enough for a single person with a nanohive to kill you before you run away is one of them. How can you say the playerbase will drop if the AV nades are taken away or balanced? There is proper AV in this game and they are all brutally and unfairly effective. so effective, in fact there is no way for tanks to deal with them, we have standard vehicals vs proto, max skilled AV and we die. AV nades should be removed or made more reasonable, its a grenade. You killed that tank in about 4 seconds and it was a sica, resistant to explosives. That is a proto AV nade. The best we have are standard tanks and shield tanks arnt even usable, its all about armor tanking. Thats even weaker to AV nades, of course it does too much damage. Just think, what if you had 2 ppl throwing grenades? 3 second pop on milita and standard tanks? Their grenades! There is proper AV in this game, and a grenade should never 3 shot a tank! Yes, im saying someone with an assault rifle should loose against a tank every single time, no questions asked gaurentee die vs a tank unless he has mines or det packs. Am i wrong to say that? Maple.... I was not able to destroy your tank with my solo proto av nades on several occasions. I believe you under estimate the strength of your tank brother....... I know better Not trying to personally attack you dont worry :) but yeah you dident solo my tank bcuz i got away, dident want to be AV naded cuz iknow what they do to me... massive damage. Its just too much, they should be more supplimental damage and not primary AV means. They really are, you dont have to play deffensively with them ppl actively hunt tanks and sneak up them. This video shows a tank can not accelerate in time to escape an AV nade ambusher. Its brutally effective, grenades just shouldent do that your squad killed me after I already made you poop your pant :) If I could only hear the comms.... but regardless... the player base will drop, you remember when tanks dominated the battlefield...... and that's what I am basing it all on, is knowledge, cause history will repeat itself.
Xender17 Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 467	Posted - 2013.08.19 06:33:00 - [16] - Quote lowratehitman wrote: Xender17 wrote: lowratehitman wrote: calisk galern wrote: better question why doesn't AV dominate lav's like "how many licks to the center of a tootsie roll pop?" the world will never know Dust 514 : Destroying 4 LAV's In Under 1 Minute http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laoXHCsk3hw I would like everyone to take notice to what this guy says... I use AV grenades because Swarm Launchers hinder you. You have to use a sidearm. "Destroying 4 LAVs in Under 1 minute" Your suppose to freaking use AV weapons if you want to blow up vehicles and also your supposed to be hindered if your going AV. AV grenades provide to much space for opening up equal effectiveness in 2 roles. Im glad you listened to what the "GUY" said/ me..... You act as if I created this game... or if we was just allowed to start carrying AV grenades.... in the video is exactly HOW AV has always worked on standard LAV and should continue.... Wasn't directed at you.
Dr Allopathy Raging Pack of Homosapiens 1804	Posted - 2013.08.19 06:35:00 - [17] - Quote Yes, you can take out a tank in real life with a grenade and a single RPG. No, this game does not represent real life. Most of these arguments are flawed; it's why I don't like to participate in these discussions.
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 873	Posted - 2013.08.19 06:36:00 - [18] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Xender17 wrote: lowratehitman wrote: calisk galern wrote: better question why doesn't AV dominate lav's like "how many licks to the center of a tootsie roll pop?" the world will never know Dust 514 : Destroying 4 LAV's In Under 1 Minute http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laoXHCsk3hw I would like everyone to take notice to what this guy says... I use AV grenades because Swarm Launchers hinder you. You have to use a sidearm. "Destroying 4 LAVs in Under 1 minute" Your suppose to freaking use AV weapons if you want to blow up vehicles and also your supposed to be hindered if your going AV. AV grenades provide to much space for opening up equal effectiveness in 2 roles. That's what it boils down to. AV grenades are too effective for the versatility they offer compared to a primary AV weapon that's meant to hinder your AI effectiveness. man...all you ever do is dis agree with me...even when... how you get all those likes? do you even play DUST 514? will you play with me? Have I ever squaded with you? on a diff note.... ALL I hear is QQ about primary weapons.... ANYTHING THAT KILLS VEHICLES OR PROTO SUITS IS OP TO YOU GUYS.....always has been...always will be. IN REAL LIFE 1 GRENADE CAN MESS UP A TANK OR ARMOR HUM V .... but this is a video game.... I understand
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 483	Posted - 2013.08.19 06:36:00 - [19] - Quote Off subject hows final fantasy XIV?
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 873	Posted - 2013.08.19 06:39:00 - [20] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Off subject hows final fantasy XIV? funny you should ask...it was great till last night and I got the 3012 ERROR which wouldn't allow me to play anymore.... seems like tons of players got it, but it is a Beta and I am sure the will get it fixed... Its on the PSN store for digital download already :) have you been playing?

lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 873	Posted - 2013.08.19 06:40:00 - [21] - Quote Xender17 wrote: lowratehitman wrote: Xender17 wrote: lowratehitman wrote: calisk galern wrote: better question why doesn't AV dominate lav's like "how many licks to the center of a tootsie roll pop?" the world will never know Dust 514 : Destroying 4 LAV's In Under 1 Minute http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laoXHCsk3hw I would like everyone to take notice to what this guy says... I use AV grenades because Swarm Launchers hinder you. You have to use a sidearm. "Destroying 4 LAVs in Under 1 minute" Your suppose to freaking use AV weapons if you want to blow up vehicles and also your supposed to be hindered if your going AV. AV grenades provide to much space for opening up equal effectiveness in 2 roles. Im glad you listened to what the "GUY" said/ me..... You act as if I created this game... or if we was just allowed to start carrying AV grenades.... in the video is exactly HOW AV has always worked on standard LAV and should continue.... Wasn't directed at you. I know brother!
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 816	Posted - 2013.08.19 06:40:00 - [22] - Quote lowratehitman wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: lowratehitman wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Yes, the new players here are complete morons like that one in the video, he dident know what hes doing and got himself blown up! The mentality of most tankers are biased by the totally noobisim, its ******. Actually, it is justified because all the veteran tanks stoped playing or switched classes because tanks are no longer fun to play, all the AV was buffed and all the tanks were nerfed, only someone new to dust would really want to play tanks now. Of course, a select few of us vets still do tank and we do not often put our tanks in harms way, charge infaintry at AV nade range with railguns or even attempt to enter their range at all! We are great tankers. Too bad we dont tank anymore tho, its really not worth it and ppl running around with AV nades powerfull enough for a single person with a nanohive to kill you before you run away is one of them. How can you say the playerbase will drop if the AV nades are taken away or balanced? There is proper AV in this game and they are all brutally and unfairly effective. so effective, in fact there is no way for tanks to deal with them, we have standard vehicals vs proto, max skilled AV and we die. AV nades should be removed or made more reasonable, its a grenade. You killed that tank in about 4 seconds and it was a sica, resistant to explosives. That is a proto AV nade. The best we have are standard tanks and shield tanks arnt even usable, its all about armor tanking. Thats even weaker to AV nades, of course it does too much damage. Just think, what if you had 2 ppl throwing grenades? 3 second pop on milita and standard tanks? Their grenades! There is proper AV in this game, and a grenade should never 3 shot a tank! Yes, im saying someone with an assault rifle should loose against a tank every single time, no questions asked gaurentee die vs a tank unless he has mines or det packs. Am i wrong to say that? Maple.... I was not able to destroy your tank with my solo proto av nades on several occasions. I believe you under estimate the strength of your tank brother....... I know better Not trying to personally attack you dont worry :) but yeah you dident solo my tank bcuz i got away, dident want to be AV naded cuz iknow what they do to me... massive damage. Its just too much, they should be more supplimental damage and not primary AV means. They really are, you dont have to play deffensively with them ppl actively hunt tanks and sneak up them. This video shows a tank can not accelerate in time to escape an AV nade ambusher. Its brutally effective, grenades just shouldent do that your squad killed me after I already made you poop your pant :) If I could only hear the comms.... but regardless... the player base will drop, you remember when tanks dominated the battlefield...... and that's what I am basing it all on, is knowledge, cause history will repeat itself. oh, so i dident even escape on my own means? Comms are pretty calm generally, im used to lone AV nades killing me dispite my very best tactical efforts to avoid them. Including the natural resist on my tank i have 50 to 60% passive resist on my tank, pending on which fit im using. Your 3 or 4 AV nades almost killed me and would have if i dident have a squad... its a grenade man, its not a swarm of anti tank rockets and is certain no energy cannon of tank destruction why should that little thing do as much damage?? Tanks ran the battlefeild in chrome because they were advanced level, because ppl did not work together to destroy them. AV nades still CRUSHED standard vehicals and repeled ADV tanks. Tho to be fair, 4 or 5 AV nades would bring an ADV shield tank down to half shields and brought down the ADV armor tanks even harder, it was still effective and more on the lines of a supplimental grenade. How it should be!! if you want to destroy tanks, you should be using forges, swams or other tanks!! AV grenades should never, ever be a reliable and effective form of AV its ******, you SHOULD die if you dont have an AV weapon VS a tank
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 560	Posted - 2013.08.19 06:41:00 - [23] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Off subject hows final fantasy XIV? fun when you can actually log in. also, the beta ends in 2 hours and 20 minutes.
Assert Dominance Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 219	Posted - 2013.08.19 06:42:00 - [24] - Quote If a tanker gets in grenade range, thats the consequence of the tanker, sometimes i av in pc battles and never killed a tank with grenades. Thats because he knows better to rush infantry and get in range. And if you let infantry chase you and kill you with grenades youre doing something wrong.
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 645	Posted - 2013.08.19 06:42:00 - [25] - Quote Wow yi just anotger proto av nafe scrub not wanting their win button taken away. The op lost any credability in my mind when he started dissing tanks ."I hate tanks tgis is not world of tanks" is the sentance that makes me think go back to cod little boy.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1350	Posted - 2013.08.19 06:42:00 - [26] - Quote lowratehitman wrote: True Adamance wrote: lowratehitman wrote: True Adamance wrote: lowratehitman wrote: The reason that I am able to take advantage of these tanks on the battlefield is not due to my OP av grenades, it is due to the mentality of 60-75 % of the tank drivers currently in Dust 514. If they see a red dot on the mini map, they instantly charge for the kill, and opposed to what some will lead you to believe, the reason that mentality is there is due to tankers being allowed to Rambo the field and not encounter av grenades. ( They poop their pants when they actually do bum rush a AV grenadier) Back in the day, dominant tank drivers was known by name due to their skills and due to the squad that they carry as protection, imagine that, a tank squad. In the video below when you read the comment section you will hear various excuses for the tank driver in question.... all the way to blaming me for not telling the accurate shield and armor #'s. In the video AV grenade community....... If this is how you kill your tanks, please express so. I do not even have to chase tanks anymore, once I am a red dot on their mini map.... they come to me :) Dust 514 : Why My AV Grenades Dominate Tanks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7axvE-844Hw Nah its primarily because AV nades are pretty ridiculously good, this criticism coming from an dedicated AV nader, and personally I want to see these grenades die their final dealth since it doesn't make sense to have enough explosive charge to penetrate 800mm or great Armour plates in such a small charge or at least see Nanohives not restock grenades. I agree the Lai DAI needs to be fixed, which I have never used them just due to them being broke. I am a full time AV nader and full heartedly dis agree with you. AV grenades help create balance, and are a much needed resource. Well at least you have o agree that removing the grenade resupply for nanohives is a must. I should never be able to solo a tank, let alone stand on a single grenade regening hive and just blap tanks with my endless stream of illogical grenades.....Grenades should be a tactical choice... spamming the hell out of them should not be a viable strategy. Sure you should be able to solo a tank.... why should you not? the military teaches you how to solo tanks in real life....what is so different? Syria - Grenade vs Tank!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTSAuaNAGpM **** I take it back...... the hell kind of grenade is that?
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 873	Posted - 2013.08.19 06:43:00 - [27] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Off subject hows final fantasy XIV? fun when you can actually log in. also, the beta ends in 2 hours and 20 minutes. It was kind of a jacked up weekend on there, not making excuses for them, but the servers was flooded and that's why its beta... I had a blast, I made lvl 16 gld and got to my first dungeon...which I like those the best
Cosgar ParagonX 4317	Posted - 2013.08.19 06:44:00 - [28] - Quote lowratehitman wrote: Cosgar wrote: Xender17 wrote: lowratehitman wrote: calisk galern wrote: better question why doesn't AV dominate lav's like "how many licks to the center of a tootsie roll pop?" the world will never know Dust 514 : Destroying 4 LAV's In Under 1 Minute http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laoXHCsk3hw I would like everyone to take notice to what this guy says... I use AV grenades because Swarm Launchers hinder you. You have to use a sidearm. "Destroying 4 LAVs in Under 1 minute" Your suppose to freaking use AV weapons if you want to blow up vehicles and also your supposed to be hindered if your going AV. AV grenades provide to much space for opening up equal effectiveness in 2 roles. That's what it boils down to. AV grenades are too effective for the versatility they offer compared to a primary AV weapon that's meant to hinder your AI effectiveness. man...all you ever do is dis agree with me...even when... how you get all those likes? do you even play DUST 514? will you play with me? Have I ever squaded with you? on a diff note.... ALL I hear is QQ about primary weapons.... ANYTHING THAT KILLS VEHICLES OR PROTO SUITS IS OP TO YOU GUYS.....always has been...always will be. IN REAL LIFE 1 GRENADE CAN MESS UP A TANK OR ARMOR HUM V .... but this is a video game.... I understand I played against you a couple of times, never with you though. I had to turn down an invite back in Chrome because I promised to teach some newbies the ropes. As for the likes, I make suggestions to make the game fair and fun for everyone, not just one specific group. You have to understand that there is something wrong with vehicles. If you can solo a tank that doesn't have enough PG to equip anything with proto AV designed to take out proto vehicles (that don't exist anymore) and that tanker can come back in a yellow jeep that requires a team to destroy, something is seriously wrong. In Chromosome, tanks needed a team to support them, in Uprising, tanks are a liability due to vehicle and AV imbalance. Tankers aren't on here voicing their lament because they want to be invincible or want Dust to be World of Tanks, they want their damned SP and ISK to be worth the investment. Right now, it really isn't when one suit that costs a fraction of the SP/ISK invested can take out a tank by themselves like they're taking out the trash. There's no risk/reward with that, just a liability.
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 873	Posted - 2013.08.19 06:47:00 - [29] - Quote The key is not nerfing AV...yet actually balancing the vehicles correctly...
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 817	Posted - 2013.08.19 06:50:00 - [30] - Quote lowratehitman wrote: The key is not nerfing AV...yet actually balancing the vehicles correctly... Agree. it took more than 4 AV grenades to kill a tank back in chrome when tanks were more properly balanced



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