If the safety was implemented, what do you think of the idea that a direct hit would still do damage but not explode if within the minimum arming distance?

Than how would he defend himself in cqc?

If the safety was implemented, what do you think of the idea that a direct hit would still do damage but not explode if within the minimum arming distance?

Yes this was pretty much the idea of the original premise. Unexploded round does damage but not explosive damage. Personally I think it should be equal to the splash damage amount with a direct impact inside the arming range.

Arming range should be 15 meters.

Get direct hit, switch to. idearm, avoid CQC situations within 5 meters.

Like I was saying, direct hits would still do the gun's normal direct damage, just no explosion and no damage to surrounding enemies within 5 the meter minimum range.

Also, taking the bulky, useless flip-up-site off the gun would be 100% ok with me.

I don't like it, it's a widespread nerf(which isn't needed) based on one variant. I've never heard of anyone using the Assault MD like a shotgun, and lets face it, the Breach doesnt need any more nerfs.

If the safety was implemented, what do you think of the idea that a direct hit would still do damage but not explode if within the minimum arming distance?

I think we are missing the point here.

The problem is NOT the mass driver, if we must search a problem the 2 problem are:

A) CLONE istantgib.
B) Spash dmg calc

The first one is too clear it dont need explanation, The second one is the cause of the Mass driver hate. Why people can jump and shoot at their feet with it and avoid all the splash dmg?
Like Cross was saing a few post ago we need semisphere dmg calculation and not circle. When we do this we will see suicide from MD goin rampage.

Nerfing The splash DMG or adding safety will nerf to hell is area-denial use. for a weap to be area-denial YOU NEED TO FEAR IT. You need to know that walking in that area means death.
HOW can be an area denial weapon if you dont fear his dmg or with a running suit you can close the gap before the "SAFETY" activation and be safe from harm?
The only class that will lose to the MD Op want are us heavy. We are simply too slow

Please god no I am completely against minimum distance I don't care if I kill myself by using it too close. I am a logi you to tell me that I can't use my weapon cqc is not fair as I cannot carry a sidearm so my only option would be to melee which is not going to be easy while getting sprayed with bullets. The MD is the most sensible weapon for a logi, think about the people that are better medics period and aren't as good at fps so the assault rifle isn't a good weapon for them. For you to deny this is for you to deny the logi if you are going to make it like any other grenade launcher from a realistic game then you must give all logistics dropsuits a sidearm. You already nerfed flaylock and Caldari logi ok fair enough don't start a nerf fest again.

Only if it has a really funny sound effect and gives you a +75WP BEANBAG KILL if you manage to end someone with it.

If the safety was implemented, what do you think of the idea that a direct hit would still do damage but not explode if within the minimum arming distance?

Also ad a matter of fact if i'm stuck behind a wall with no hope of surviving E.g. Wall of protos is running at me and i have 3 shots and no mkre hives, i will use those to kill myself and deny them the 50wp

Exactly. The real issue isn't even the mass driver. It's that Armor is underpowered

Considering that resistances aren't taken into account with splash damage (only direct) it's actually doing about 30% less damage to armor. When that bug gets fixed it's going to skyrocket both in power and use.

I really like the idea as it makes the MD good at what it's supposed to be used for. At the moment the MD excels in CQC and in long range because you don't even have to be accurate, just throw out some rounds and you win.

Personally I feel that the splash damage or radius should drop because it shouldn't be outright killing people with a few shots like it is now, it should be a support weapon getting assists in the double digits at least.

My proto Gallente suit has over 800hp and a proto MD can take me down to dangerous levels in just a few hits near to my feet. I have to stay on target a lot longer whilst they are shooting in my general area and killing me at the same time. The counter to this is to get closer but that doesn't work because they can still just blow me up.

Minimum arming distance should solve the problem of MD being used far too liberally in CQC, a problem which is compounded by the fact that you can get 3 or more people just shooting explosions everywhere.