1st, it only took 2 months to act on this.

1st, it only took 2 months to act on this.

I think the fuse nerf is right on the spot but i'm affraid that the flaylock will still be vastly superior to other secondary weapon (seriously who would pick a scrambler pistol over a flaylock in CB).
Nothing on the MD ?

The good thing is that when we read wolfman blog, it feels like he understood that CB in it's current state is a 'splosion fest right now, (the MD being one of the greatest contributor to the clusterfuck in CB)

I specced into flaylock in may sometime, didnt feel so op, untill everyone else got one changes sound reasonable, will soon see after 1.3

Sticky nades sounds like a plan!!

Wow... I feel the change in Direct Damage is just too much.
It fires rockets for gods sake it's meant to be powerful.

The blast radius needed to be changed, but that and the Direct Damage, you've near crippled this weapon.


You can expect cries for a Respec. now.
I feel it should be the blast radius that is changed. the current direct damage is fine, if you even get a direct hit.

Changes to explosives look good... now if only you had followed that same logic before you took the nerf hammer 9000 to the cal logi suit

looks solid, looking forward to maybe seeing the changes to contact nades in 1.4 or later? and glad to see flaylock looks mostly solid still, ADV. flaylock felt much more balanced than the core so changing the core to be more like the ADV is now sounds good.


I do want to echo concerns about direct damage in the patch though. I understand it's a sidearm and its RoF and reload speed means it has a pretty high DPS if those direct hits land. BUT I'm concerned it might not be as effective in hit & run style tactics as if currently can be (if you can land direct hits consistently). I run scout with a speed tank and a shotgun/flaylock combo, so it's basically all about DPH. I mean I can wait and see, everything might be fine one the patch hits. but wouldn't lowering the RoF and increasing the reload speed be more in line with what the weapon is supposed to be?

I feel like right now you're nerfing DPS by nerfing DPH, if it's supposed to be a high skill, direct hit weapon, why not nerf the RoF to encourage hit & run tactics and skill shots and discourage spamming the whole clip hoping for one or two hits?


as far as concerns about it being a sidearm go, it's not like the proto scrambler pistol and SMG aren't killer too if you use them right.

If you want a hit and run weapon thats a skillshot, use a Plasma Cannon.

Just a clarification on something. The ammo skill changes does not increase magazine size, but rather the size of the ammo pool.

So you'll still need to reload just as often, except you'll need to head back to the supply depo less often with higher skill levels.

"We like the concept of these grenades, but we look at them as a situational, additional damage source that will let you take out targets during vital moments of close quarters combat. "

We've heard your concerns and we were a little shocked at the horse-head in our beds, but as per usual we are definitely doing something about it. As CCP Wolfman iterates in this new dev blog. You might be interested to read more about the changes we are making to the Flaylock Pistol, Contact Grenades and teaser into the remedy for the "murder taxis" Please leave your feedback down below!

I'm just curious as to why the direct damage of the Flaylock has suffered such a drastic change.
The blast radius and damage needed to be changed no doubt, but a direct hit seems lesser.

EDIT:
Upon rethinking I feel that it may actually still work, I occasionally use a Flaylock as a finisher, so it should still do that nicely.
Plus this may actually make my marksman skill with the Flaylock seem more impressive. Less 'Gaylock' hate.


I haven't really used a Contact Grenade so I can't comment on them too much,
however lowering damage, radius and the carry limit to just a single grenade is overkill.

I've been skilled by a Contact Grenade several times and yes it's pissed me off.
But being able to only carry one at a time just seems crippling, why not two?

I do love the idea of Sticky Grenades though, would be better than contact detonation.


Really looking forward to the details for the counters to Murder Taxis.

Just a clarification on something. The ammo skill changes does not increase magazine size, but rather the size of the ammo pool.

So you'll still need to reload just as often, except you'll need to head back to the supply depo less often with higher skill levels.

You shouldn't of touched Direct Damage, you should've just reduced Splash so players are more inclined to do the skilful thing and actually hit their target for once. (Risk/Reward)

The Contact Nade nerf wasn't what I expected, IWS was hyping the changes up so much and the only change was some altering to PG/CPU and amount carried, incredibly disappointed, they're still a rival of Scouts everywhere, but atleast you done something (It only took you what? 2 Months? Enough to make some money off them I guess)

At the end of the day, Flaylock nerf may have been too much, you should've kept Direct, my only gripe was the Splash, at least now they're more of a 'Finisher' weapon, rather than a Primary for some.

Contact Nade nerf wasn't enough, Splash Radius or damage should've been decreased, enough to allow every suit to tank at least one hit from them, also making them, a 'Finisher' weapon, instead of being a 'Win' button, whenever you come across a Scout.

Bullshit..
Problems also in other sides, you looking in wrong direction.
Why "Fused" gr only by AUR???
Why AR have more skills?
Why other weapons still have stupid skills? like PG cost on FlayLock and charge time on ScR?
and why FlayLock dont cost PG???Why???
and biggest problem - you dont listen players.

If you read the dev blog you would know that they are changing the pg skill on the flaylock to cpu

1st, it only took 2 months to act on this.

The Flaylock's direct dmg needed to come down a bit to keep in on par with other sidearms. With the splash damage added on, it was just too good at killing. This should hopefully allow for a more balanced weapon - while still having it's unique uses.

I was under the impression AoE and direct damage could not be applied to the same target?

Why "Fused" gr only by AUR???

We've heard your concerns and we were a little shocked at the horse-head in our beds, but as per usual we are definitely doing something about it. As CCP Wolfman iterates in this new dev blog. You might be interested to read more about the changes we are making to the Flaylock Pistol, Contact Grenades and teaser into the remedy for the "murder taxis" Please leave your feedback down below!

Awhh, cant fit all complex shield extenders with a full rack of proto equipment to go with your proto weapon?

Just saying... Its not assault... Yet it has more slots, CPU and PG than ANY assault variant. All at the expense of a sidearm, oh nos.

If it were up to me Logis should only be able to use a sidearm, make them more focused on... oh, I dunno... Logistics?

Because the kills are too easy. Everyone would use them and they'd be nerfed right away. It's ok the way it is.

They dont but when you have 90% of the direct damage being splash then theres a lot of room for error.

"Remedy" for the murder taxis? Grenades sticking to the LAV and killing a driver isn't a remedy. It kills the idea of having a vehicle to rep other vehicles (or infantry for God's sake) since you can't go anywhere near enemy infantry. Let's not even talk about Scout LAV weaknesses in this department.

If you want a remedy to Logi LAVs being too tough to kill, nerf low-skilled versions of them and reward high SP investment in them other than 'OMG, MOAR DAMAGE REDUCTION. As it stands, I feel no need to skill any higher into vehicles because of how good the lower SP Logi LAVs are. Maybe you could offer SOME form of protection for a driver other than 'plate, extenders, proto suit' as well. And maybe you could also fix the damn infantry reps on those things while you're at it ><

They didn't say that sticky grenades are the nerf that is incoming...I speculated this...

Anyway, I really think this is half the problem with tanks. So many people want to brawl with them, but compared to infantry they all have the BEST ranged damage by far. If tanks/vehicles want to be invincible for more than 10 seconds within proto-grenade throwing range that is a pipe-dream.

I also liked the use of graphs in the blog showing the statistical evidence you had for seeing they were OP.

Would it be possible to show us similar graphs for all the weapon types?

Why AR have more skills?

Why other weapons still have stupid skills? like PG cost on FlayLock and charge time on ScR?

The Flaylock's direct dmg needed to come down a bit to keep in on par with other sidearms. With the splash damage added on, it was just too good at killing. This should hopefully allow for a more balanced weapon - while still having it's unique uses.

I don't see it as okay. I see it as a p2w since it's only available through AUR. I normally give CCP the benefit of the doubt, but this is without a doubt purchasing an advantage that is unavailable to those who play for free/cannot pay real money. Even if it is only meant for certain situations, the fact remains that it is an advantage in a situation that is not too uncommon.

But hey, we have to pick and choose our battles, right?

We've heard your concerns and we were a little shocked at the horse-head in our beds, but as per usual we are definitely doing something about it. As CCP Wolfman iterates in this new dev blog. You might be interested to read more about the changes we are making to the Flaylock Pistol, Contact Grenades and teaser into the remedy for the "murder taxis" Please leave your feedback down below!

Lol this is barely a nerf for the flaylock, the radius is still pretty high and the damage nerf is COMPLETELY negated by the fact it now has 8 shots instead of 3. On top of that it still has the same ROF and reload speed. Oh and the best counter to flaylocks just got nerfed... Welcome to hell Amarr and Gallente!

I literally skipped all the parts about the flaylock and the grenade balancing and tried to find your "teaser for the remedy" for the "murder taxi".

You weren't kidding, it really was a teaser; There was not a damn word about any balancing of the "Murder Taxi" situation. Again, CCP withholds their possible solution from the Dust 514 community, and instead will probably apply it in a future update, and further f**k things up in this game.

Again, nice "teaser".

You used literally wrong. That's all I wanted to share with you. Enjoy.

Now let me get this right, the contact grenade is suppose to explode on contact, but if it gets a fused time delay is it not just another Locus? and if you make it sticky, should you not call it a sticky grenade, instead of a contact grenade, since a contact grenade implies it explodes on contact, instead of sticking to a surface and exploding after so many seconds. Would it then not just be wiser to make a new grenade called sticky grenade and leave the contact as it is? Plus the contact grenade is just another flavor of the month, the more different explosives you's add, the more likely people will move on to different things. ATM all we have is 4 grenade types, why not just expand on them, afterall the more the better......

They dont but when you have 90% of the direct damage being splash then theres a lot of room for error.

Nerf OP Items ... Check!
Buff UP Items ... ... ... (Check?)

When we originally designed the Flaylock, we wanted it to feel like a skillshot weapon. It should have been powerful, but tricky to use properly. However, we underestimated its potential with both the direct and splash damage. In the hands of a skilled player, it quickly proves itself to be superior to other sidearms and begins to rival other primary weapons. This is going to change and here's how.

Right now, we feel players are relying too heavily on the splash damage of the weapon to get kills. To that end, we're making two changes to encourage precision and reward player skill. First, we're reducing the base splash damage from 195 to 140. We're also reducing the blast radius on the Advanced (from 1.5m to 1.25m) and Prototype (from 2.0m to 1.5m) tiers.



Of course, a direct shot from the Flaylock is still devastating in its current state, so we'll be reducing direct damage from 218 to 165. This is a rather large change, but it brings it in line with other sidearms and should help keep the Flaylock from being a replacement for a primary weapon.

We've heard your concerns and we were a little shocked at the horse-head in our beds, but as per usual we are definitely doing something about it. As CCP Wolfman iterates in this new dev blog. You might be interested to read more about the changes we are making to the Flaylock Pistol, Contact Grenades and teaser into the remedy for the "murder taxis" Please leave your feedback down below!

At the same time, we're modifying the Flaylock Ammo skill to give 1 missile per level instead of a 5% bonus per level. This makes the skill equally useful for all tiers and gives you an increased opportunity to score a direct hit with the larger ammo pool.

Finally, we're changing the fitting skill to make the bonus more useful. As the Flaylock currently uses very little power grid, the fitting skill's bonus to PG wasn't very helpful. As of Uprising 1.3, the skill will now give a CPU bonus instead.

Did the flux grenade also out-score contact grenades in kills?

But seiously, I'm happy to see these changes being being made soon. I do have one question though: In 1.4, will contact grenades no longer be referred to as "contact grenades", and rather "sticky grenades"? I mean if they don't detonate on impact, they're actually closer to regular grenades. And will this sticky change only apply to fuses? Or will it apply to Thukkers as well? I'd hope the Thukkers would still detonate on impact, given that they are proto and have a small radius.

Wow... I feel the change in Direct Damage is just too much.
It fires rockets for gods sake it's meant to be powerful.

The blast radius needed to be changed, but that and the Direct Damage, you've near crippled this weapon.


You can expect cries for a Respec. now.
I feel it should be the blast radius that is changed. the current direct damage is fine, if you even get a direct hit.

This can't be a valid complaint. Considering it takes, what, a week or more to get the SP for proto, and then its not like they would have statistics for the past to compare much to.

First, you'd have the early adopters with the SP saved getting a lot of kills, then the people who actually earn the SP. Then the followers for the next couple of weeks. Then you get the bandwagon by the end of the month. So you see the graph, and there really wasn't a 'phenomenon effect until July' so IMO this was a fairly quick response and turn around.

Because the kills are too easy. Everyone would use them and they'd be nerfed right away. It's ok the way it is.

I foresee tears from warravens, seriously the core flaylock is the only thing we use in PC and o.h have been ripping our proto elites apart.

The SMG has the same number of skills; its to reduce the scatter of the weapon to increase its effective range by tightening the bullet spread. HMGs due this naturally, and most other weapons have no spread to speak of.


For the most part most of the skills are good, or at least the intent is in the right place.

The Flaylock PG reduction was there because every other weapon has similar skill (except for the Plasma Cannon), now it matches the Plasma Cannons fitting skill and reduces the CPU instead.

The charge time is not a 'stupid' skill (you probably also think that reload skills are stupid, too) that reduction in charge time can make the difference between getting a kill or an assist, or living and dying. Sure, it doesn't work on the assault variants but that is intended.

Thanks for the comments guys. ItGÇÖs going to be very interesting to see how these changes effect the Flaylock performance. Need that graph to drop a bit but not too much :-)

Just to manage your expectations weGÇÖre not 100% sure sticky nades will make it in to 1.4. Some of our other work has taken longer than expected so that task is currently in the danger zone.

Cheers

CCP Wolfman

Flaylock's splash damage is still too good, it should be dropped to 60~80 and the radius of advanced/prototype level is should be 1 m fixed.

I like what I read. Operator splash back damage is a must! Forge gun too!

Thanks for the comments guys. ItGÇÖs going to be very interesting to see how these changes effect the Flaylock performance. Need that graph to drop a bit but not too much :-)

Just to manage your expectations weGÇÖre not 100% sure sticky nades will make it in to 1.4. Some of our other work has taken longer than expected so that task is currently in the danger zone.

Cheers

CCP Wolfman

We'll see how this changes the performance stats as well as what the community reaction is before we make any more changes. We don't want to nerf it too hard and then have to bump it back up again :-)

ok, why SMG\AR have more skills?

The SMG has the same number of skills; its to reduce the scatter of the weapon to increase its effective range by tightening the bullet spread. HMGs do this naturally, and most other weapons have no spread to speak of.

Wow... I feel the change in Direct Damage is just too much.
It fires rockets for gods sake it's meant to be powerful.

The blast radius needed to be changed, but that and the Direct Damage, you've near crippled this weapon.


You can expect cries for a Respec. now.
I feel it should be the blast radius that is changed. the current direct damage is fine, if you even get a direct hit.

Thanks crybabies you won. Boo hoo hoo the flaylock killed me and its really strong ITS A ROCKET PISTOL MORONS all that crying isn't making you a better player. CCP this is a joke direct damage should be high on a rocket stop pandering to babies.Nerfing things isn't the answer how you gonna nerf the assault forge gun when people start crying about it? The flaylock does take skill to use and skill to avoid people that whine just suck its that simple always will be. Is my mass driver next cuz its OP? Final note if you can't leave weapons and suits alone you should refund people's sp it's not our fault when you decide that what we spec into is too much for people who haven't i don't have a problem losing to flaylocks, caldari logi or murder taxi people are just bitches.

The babies are the morons that used the flaylock instead of being better players. If I could fault CCP for anything about the flaylock it would be putting it in the game in the first place. There was no way it wasn't going to be abused, and therefore no way it wasn't going to have to get nerfed.

I don't see it as okay. I see it as a p2w since it's only available through AUR. I normally give CCP the benefit of the doubt, but this is without a doubt purchasing an advantage that is unavailable to those who play for free/pay real money. Even if it is only meant for certain situations, the fact remains that it is an advantage in a situation that is not too uncommon.

But hey, we have to pick and choose our battles, right?

Please explain how the fck is it a pay to win? I've spent over $200 on this game and I don't see anything to gain advantage by it on the battlefield. Only get boosters and bpo gear of std suits and weapons. So please shut the fck up. So tired of everyone's crying. sound like a bunch of bitches. Its annnoying, the flaylock nerf was needed but imo they over did it but again I just specd into the tac ar :). So no it isnt pay to win you cheap fk. Support the game if you want change. I sure did. And never asked for ****. anyway time to make a alt and buy a other elite pack.

Thanks crybabies you won. Boo hoo hoo the flaylock killed me and its really strong ITS A ROCKET PISTOL MORONS all that crying isn't making you a better player. CCP this is a joke direct damage should be high on a rocket stop pandering to babies.Nerfing things isn't the answer how you gonna nerf the assault forge gun when people start crying about it? The flaylock does take skill to use and skill to avoid people that whine just suck its that simple always will be. Is my mass driver next cuz its OP? Final note if you can't leave weapons and suits alone you should refund people's sp it's not our fault when you decide that what we spec into is too much for people who haven't i don't have a problem losing to flaylocks, caldari logi or murder taxi people are just bitches.

Its a useless weapon now, just use AR its what everyone wants.

I guess by that Logic you also want my Rocket Turrets to OHKO Splash in a 10-15M Radius b/c........"ITS A ROCKET MORONS"??? Ask a Tanker if they give a F**K about this "Travesty" of yours.....I dare ya

If you are a tanker, then it's likely you haven't experienced being killed repeatedly and easily by flaylock pistols. Your opinion is therefore uninformed, even if your principle of HTFU is a fair starting position.

They do splash the user if he is close enough..? I just blew myself up!

Thanks crybabies you won. Boo hoo hoo the flaylock killed me and its really strong ITS A ROCKET PISTOL MORONS all that crying isn't making you a better player. CCP this is a joke direct damage should be high on a rocket stop pandering to babies.Nerfing things isn't the answer how you gonna nerf the assault forge gun when people start crying about it? The flaylock does take skill to use and skill to avoid people that whine just suck its that simple always will be. Is my mass driver next cuz its OP? Final note if you can't leave weapons and suits alone you should refund people's sp it's not our fault when you decide that what we spec into is too much for people who haven't i don't have a problem losing to flaylocks, caldari logi or murder taxi people are just bitches.

If you are a tanker, then it's likely you haven't experienced being killed repeatedly and easily by flaylock pistols. Your opinion is therefore uninformed, even if your principle of HTFU is a fair starting position.

For the love of god leave LAVs alone!

Swarm launcher guys have it tough enough without you trying to cut out our bread and butter. With the exception of maybe the plasma cannon all other av weapons are superior to swarms, except when it comes to killing the basic lavs.
Without a healthy number of basic lavs who would ever use a swarm launcher?

1. all av weapons except swarms can hit infantry

2 almost all av weapons out do swarms in direct damage and/or dps

3 all av weapons except swarms can target neutral installations

4 dropships and boosted vehicles easily out run swarms.

5 swarms have one of the most if not the most limited ammo pools

6 you can hide a forge gunner/flaylock/ av nade user. kinda hard not to be noticed with a 6 long and long lasting smoke trails point straight towards you

the only thing swarms excel at is killing basic lavs. All you need to keep down the numbers of lavs is just one proto swarm launcher on your team in a semi decent position. Every match I play i'm killing lavs, sometimes I have to kill 4 or 5 but it doesn't take long before even the worst taxi driver gives it up. Now, if you cut down on the number of lavs all the millions of sp I've put in to my av suit just became worthless. Yes, they will still be tanks and dropships but as I've stated above but they are fewer per match and better engaged with any other av weapon.


Some changes that would be nice to see

1 a nerf to logi lavs or if not a nerf at least make it worth killing! Ridiculous that it takes more shots for me to kill a logi lav than a tank but it only gives me a third of the points!

2 fix drop ship kills!! no more of this everybody jump out of the ship before it hits the ground so the aver doesn't get any kills! what other vehicle has this option?

3 another fix to drop ships. Its not really fun when I manage to bring one down but it hits a wall on the way down so I get an assist instead of a kill

4 Add an aggression timer. I take a gunnlogi down to a sliver of health but thanks to the long lock and slow travel times of swarms there is just enough time for him to jump out and recall the thing! Cool idea ccp! That kinda stuff doesn't fly in eve why does it here?

5 i'm not sure if this is just limited to swarms but while I will one shot a lav with a driver in it. If the lav is unoccupied it can take me as many as three shots to kill. I don't know if applies to all avs or just swarms but shouldn't it be easier to kill a lav that's empty and just sitting there?

6 Add a freaking re-sync button!! at one point or another all of will have to re-start the game either for mic issues, lag etc. would be nice if we could just choose restart instead of quitting game the reloading and going through the whole ps move info bit!

those 6 should be fixed no matter what class you are. on personal note I would like to see

1 swarms able to target neutrals. Every other weapon can!

2 bigger ammo pools (only slightly)

so core flaylock users who were just spam shooting the weapon, this is what happens to FoTM weapons being abused. ha

I have just discovered the shotgun scout. I like the shotgun =D

Yea and thats what the nerf is really about so that not everyone in the game is using it but something else will replace it. They'll probably come after my mass driver next. Which if that is the case CCP please don't do anything beyond lowering clip size... P.S. its not like 6 barreled grenade launchers don't exist for all those people who keep saying "why do you need six rounds". There is no such thing as overkill please remember this

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1. all av weapons except swarms can hit infantry

2 almost all av weapons out do swarms in direct damage and/or dps

3 all av weapons except swarms can target neutral installations

4 dropships and boosted vehicles easily out run swarms.

5 swarms have one of the most if not the most limited ammo pools

6 you can hide a forge gunner/flaylock/ av nade user. kinda hard not to be noticed with a 6 long and long lasting smoke trails point straight towards you

Good post.
If it's going to be so specific and risky using a swarm launcher, it should at least be a lot more powerful against vehicles.
I think it's ok to outrun by a dropship, otherwise it would be practically impossible to pilot those things with swarm launchers around, but when it hits the damage should be more significant.

The smoke trail is definitely the worst aspect of the SL, i couldn't agree more. At least you could make the trail shorter, so the position of the shooter is not that obvious.


About LAV's, I'd be happy if you reduce the collision damage against infantry, since it's too easy to chase and kill a guy even when it's not running fast.

u have to remember with the swarm launcher is kind of a no skill weapon other than leveling it up it locks on and does the rest. The rest of the av takes skill and position. No auto lock so why should u be rewarded.

They do splash the user if he is close enough..? I just blew myself up!

ok, so how about rebalancing these ARs?

Direct damage is to much? WTF people run around with those things as primary weapons.. I say they didn't nerf them enough they basically did the same damage as mass drivers they're the pistol variants with 3 bullets. what they did to them in my opinion is still pretty stupid now you add bullets so basically 150 damage each hit but instead of 3 times now its 5 or 6 times so essentially nothing has really changed except now you cant kill a heavy in with 3 bullets or destroy a full health tank... as for grenades basically what they did was make you waste SP and made the grenades class 50% less effective. I can understand nerfing the amount of {600 damage mile long radius} contact grenades you get (all though if your off by a little bit It means your life to) but now they all do the exact same damage so there is no reason of leveling up to try and get those grenades when you can just use fused. as for the assault rifles while I admit they aren't supposed to have ultra-super across the map range they are rifles and they need to be able to hit far targets. I can also understand keeping mass drivers at the same damage those are actually believable. the only problem I have with "murder taxis" is the amount of shield and resistance they have, they are basically tanks.. they can take more punishment than my freaking gunloggi can which is really dumb. I understand they are logistics LAVs but then again my tank costs about 1.6m. so tell me; why did they nerf the biggest slowest most expensive things on the field? because some kids complained that their militia swarm launcher and their tier 1 AV grenades didn't break the shields right, right well here's a thought that you too at CCP should think about- Does that make any sense?


closing thoughts-(lol)
- the only things that should be able to destroy tanks like nothing are vehicle based weapons like installations or... other tanks.
oh and the precision strikes, not 1 guy with a wiyrkomi. either nerf anti vehicles or as a matter of fact I wont even say fully buff tanks... all I'm asking for is more resistance and maybe more pg/cpu for the enforcers seeing as how they are equivalent to prototype class stuff.

[u have to remember with the swarm launcher is kind of a no skill weapon other than leveling it up it locks on and does the rest. The rest of the av takes skill and position. No auto lock so why should u be rewarded.

What CCP did to "solve" the murder taxi exploit does not work. Many people found out that the militia vehicle that used to be 2 av gernade kill is now 4 and his is only making it worse giving the murder taxi more health. Also the Invisaiility glitch has not been fixed how you actualy do it is you go into the blackscreen bug and keep pressing start on your controller if done correctly you will be invisable. Along with the massdriver exploit the massdriver is over powered and needs to be nerfed I lost 6 prototype heavies to a massdriver the shells it shoots in splash damage is stronger than the flaylock was and still is. CCP I will not play dust 514 until the scrambler rifle,murder taxi and massdriver is nerfed.

I'd rather there NOT be more mid-range ARs. I've been shot out of my sniper spot by AR fire from over 150 yards before by a GEK. The Tactical, I could understand, but not your run of the mill combat rifle.

Also, when are we getting a Scrambler Sniper? Shields are still pesky and the fix you promised to make them more detectable hasn't come in yet.