After successfully entering the Planetary conquest battle on behalf of DUST University uninvited my corp and I delivered our ultimatum.

Pay 100 million ISK or lose the District.

DUST University declined our terms so we entered the Planetary Conquest map.

Within moments my squad began purging DUST University Infantry on behalf of our employers. I immediately dropped a madrugar with full kit and began my work, massacring as many DUST University personnel as possible in the early moments of the game.

Unfortunately Seraphim Initiative was myopic and could not tell friend from foe so they blew my tank up. Oh well, we moved along and immediately began dropping jeeps into the fray to educate the University in the folly of their ways. After a few bumper kisses the Seraphim Crew helpfully killed me again.

meanwhile my minions were loose in the wire and hunting the University fools who were desperately attempting to salvage the battle and hold the district. To prove the futility of such I charged the bumper of a gunnlogi and got driven over thus reducing the clone count yet again.

Finally after much heated violence DUST University lost the district via clone count.

Sucks to be them.

When Grief university enters the battle and delivers our ultimatum understand: You will pay our demanded ransom, or we will remove your district from your hands.

We are also open for hire. if you want someone screwed, Grief University is your tool, for we are standing on the shoulders of giants among griefers to bring misery to our targets. We are here to insure your victory... unless the victim meets our demands and doubles the payment.

That is all.

Or is it?

Well after this who's going to trust you'll keep your word after payment? Ruthless kittens.

After successfully entering the Planetary conquest battle on behalf of DUST University uninvited my corp and I delivered our ultimatum.

Pay 100 million ISK or lose the District.

DUST University declined our terms so we entered the Planetary Conquest map.

Within moments my squad began purging DUST University Infantry on behalf of our employers. I immediately dropped a madrugar with full kit and began my work, massacring as many DUST University personnel as possible in the early moments of the game.

Unfortunately Seraphim Initiative was myopic and could not tell friend from foe so they blew my tank up. Oh well, we moved along and immediately began dropping jeeps into the fray to educate the University in the folly of their ways. After a few bumper kisses the Seraphim Crew helpfully killed me again.

meanwhile my minions were loose in the wire and hunting the University fools who were desperately attempting to salvage the battle and hold the district. To prove the futility of such I charged the bumper of a gunnlogi and got driven over thus reducing the clone count yet again.

Finally after much heated violence DUST University lost the district via clone count.

Sucks to be them.

When Grief university enters the battle and delivers our ultimatum understand: You will pay our demanded ransom, or we will remove your district from your hands.

We are also open for hire. if you want someone screwed, Grief University is your tool, for we are standing on the shoulders of giants among griefers to bring misery to our targets. We are here to insure your victory... unless the victim meets our demands and doubles the payment.

That is all.

Or is it?

Dust Uni didn't take our threat seriously, and paid the price for it. We will honor any agreement that is finalized.

And there goes your credibility as a mercenary corp. Good luck finding a contract worth any weight now. My advice? Delete this post before it destroys your reputation.

Actually i think my rep is right where I want it to be. Reputation doesn't trump results.

[quote=Blapathon Tanker]
You've got a lot to learn about New Eden. Read what Mr CSM said above me.

not sure what's funnier...attacking DUST Uni, or sabotaging them in order to win

no, no I don't.

Assumptions will bite you in the ass sooner or later.

no, no I don't.

Assumptions will bite you in the ass sooner or later.

no, no I don't.

Assumptions will bite you in the ass sooner or later.

Some of us did wonder what dafuq was going on, gotta be honest.

Dark Cloud noticed a Redberry jump on his tank that was going lose on fellow reddots, he wept when the said reddot was kill, it was very sad.

Remember your own words.

OP I suggest you take some form of english class, your writing is so convoluted it's hard to understand what actually happened here.

Also, you sabotaged one of the worst corporations in the game, that's not an accomplishment or topic worthy.

OP I suggest you take some form of english class, your writing is so convoluted it's hard to understand what actually happened here.

Also, you sabotaged one of the worst corporations in the game, that's not an accomplishment or topic worthy.

no it's not.

it's a precedent.

no it's not an accomplishment.

it's a precedent.

Ikr?

Out of every corp Dust Uni just wants to train using this games Meta and use it to involve many people. CRONOS couldn't even fight them fairly... lol

Oh man - the PR trip I'll be having with this thread later is going to be a blast.

Our fights with SI were not only fun and enjoyable but also a learning experience for many of our vet players. I honestly dont't understand the fuss. Plenty of us knew the risks going into PC, and we are happy with it. Just means we need to practice more to be on par with Cronos.

Yea...

The sabotage is one thing, but attacking a corp filled with people trying to learn the game...pathetic. Seriously. I remember when they made a thread here saying what planet they wanted the districts on.

I agree them demanding a planet was a little too much, but them asking for a couple districts to settle on, and to let them to their thing...was reasonable. Attacking basically a helpless corp...

GG.

Mind you, I know it's war, but let's be real, attacking someone who poses no threat to anyone, AND who's teaching the game to new comers?!! That's sad.

And more cunning it would seem...

Eh, didn't bother reading the first post until a few minutes ago. This is probably nothing more than a troll post due to the recent losses we've faced on the ground. If what the OP stated actually happened... then I'm laughing way to hard right now.

First of all who the hell is Grief University but I don't know why anyone else in PC would hire your no-name Corp to begin with, but they certainly won't now.

Secondly, Dust University is a class act, hats off to you guys for taking things in stride and for trying to teach the game to newbies to help Dust grow and flourish, I can't really speak for our CEO but see about hiring Tritan next time you all need a hand, so long as its not against a ROFL corp. We, at least, wouldn't just screw you guys over in some lame attempt to look cool.

Cleaning our planets

Also, the devs are working on providing Corps with the tools to boot unwelcome arrivals from their Corp battles.

so CCP is making this game carebear paradise?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Were you hired by D-Uni or did you "infiltrate" the Corp with (by design) the worst security in the entire game?

If you were hired, why would even D-Uni hire someone with "grief" in the name and expect not to be shafted?

If they hired you, and you're advertising a betrayal, congrats, you've ruined any chance (not that you had much with a name like that) of being hired to work for someone again. Also, the devs are working on providing Corps with the tools to boot unwelcome arrivals from their Corp battles. when your "sabotage" results in instant kick from the battle, your current approach will be obsolete and you'll need a new way to make money. I hope you have a plan in the works for that time when it comes.

Were you hired by D-Uni or did you "infiltrate" the Corp with (by design) the worst security in the entire game?

If you were hired, why would even D-Uni hire someone with "grief" in the name and expect not to be shafted?

If they hired you, and you're advertising a betrayal, congrats, you've ruined any chance (not that you had much with a name like that) of being hired to work for someone again. Also, the devs are working on providing Corps with the tools to boot unwelcome arrivals from their Corp battles. when your "sabotage" results in instant kick from the battle, your current approach will be obsolete and you'll need a new way to make money. I hope you have a plan in the works for that time when it comes.

Can I have a link to the dev post that says they are working to develop tools to boot unwelcomes in a corp matchup? I have not read anything to this affect, please tell me all about it.

You will only earn your place if you beat really good corps;
IE, Imperfects,PFBHz, Synergy and such, will not count one by one here.
Dust University, which is a corp that targets to help people that start up this game does not deserve to face with traitors.
It is like getting candy of a kid and bragging about it, come face with big boys.

Well New Eden is not known for its fairness, now is it. New Eden is a cold and brutal place.

You will taste it as well. You are just little pups of seraphim that will get @ss kicked in future.
Btw , this is a game and new eden cliche does not compensate for your douchness

Seems to me that piracy has finally arrived at DUST's door, and the game's starting to be what it should be... just like Eve.

Welcome to new eden.

Here's my opinion on what happened:

This report was made to deflect the true master-minds to this betrayal. Fearful after seeing an attack from CRONOS - a plan was hatched. A corp previously alt cared for - was too front for a false sabotage to give CRONOS a terrible image. Hoping this would draw more attention to CRONOS in a negative light and hopefully force all there districts on the defense - they were going to regroup - restock and ISK - and try elsewhere. First, they wanted to leave behind a present and a possibility of at least one district staying theres.


Basically: Everyones a liar! :O

Thanks for everyone's support of our organization.

The whiff of e-honour bullshit is strong in this thread.



You clearly haven't learned your lesson.

I joined the Uni for a reason! I will be waiting!

I dunno. It was embarrassing enough for the CEO of the corp to make a personal statement on the matter.

I dunno. It was embarrassing enough for the CEO of the corp to make a personal statement on the matter.

Because that is such a challenging thing to do.

haha thats about as hard as getting a goon to post.

Oh No!!! Tell me e tough guys...how are you gonna come for the D-Uni if they can't hold any districts? HAHA. Oh wait..let me think..you are gonna put "Spys" in the corp??? Or wait..I know...wait...ummm...yeah...anyways.....come teach me a lesson!! I joined the Uni for a reason! I will be waiting!

Boy, the wagons are circling...

Embarrass the CEO of a corp enough that he has to come on the forums and pretend that it wasn't a big deal?

I don't know how challenging that is. It doesn't happen that often, anyway.

[quote=Saki Seto][quote=Philipp Achtel]I dunno. It was embarrassing enough for the CEO of the corp to make a personal statement on the matter.

As the CEO id like to say well done for playing a tactic that was brought up by myself at several round tables at Fanfest.

I personally have no problem with the implementation of the infiltration of a corp. That is all part of being in New Eden, where I've lived now for over 4 years.

However this particular way of infiltrating a PC match is going to be be serverly curtailed and soon enough your going to have to work a lot harder to be able to pull this off again. Now, you'd know this if you been paying attention to various sources. A roster system and a new role being added allowing the kicking of a player from a corp match is under discussion.

Announcing how you 'accomplished' a laughably easy, soon to plugged exploit seems misguided as far as advertising your 'services' is concerned.

As has been already mentioned by many on this thread so far, DUST University has always had an open door policy, your alleged skill as an infiltrator is currently based on the ingenious exploit of simply being invited to join on application. Hardly the work of someone claiming to be the New Eden equilivant of Kim Philby.

As to the matter of a ransom I urge you to dream a little bigger. 100m ISK, while a not inconsiderable sum in Dust, is rather pitiful in comparison to the wallets of even a modestly funded corp such as ours.

As to if SI actually employed you, I can not say. But it seems to me that their leadership is smart enough to know that employing such a tactic on what is recognised as training corp is going to make themselves look rather weak in the eyes of those that might only make a cursory glance in this matter. So I'm inclined to believe, on reflection, they very likely had nothing to do with this.

All this incident has done is to alert other corps as to this possible exploit and how to do it themselves, saving the cost of paying you to do it.

I would suggest to you that as a marketing campaign, what you've accomplished here is the New Eden equilivant of new recipe Coca Cola.

And do your research next time.. Everyone in New Eden knows, though apparently not your good selves, that E-UNI and by inference D-UNI don't pay ransoms.

Good day to you. o7

+1 for my alt

Imps will be coming for you scrubs soon. Try not to die out from all your students shooting you in the back.

I'm kinda surprised someone else beat Imps to it. What gives?

lol this topic is still going?

Yeah it is, and we hit R.i.f.t. an hour ago, cost them well over 100M isk in combined clone and equipment costs because they would not pay isk to us.

You've literally just advertised that you're VERY willing to turn against the company that's hired you to defend their district.

No one's going to hire you to fight for them again, I hope you realise.

After successfully entering the Planetary conquest battle on behalf of DUST University uninvited my corp and I delivered our ultimatum.

Pay 100 million ISK or lose the District.

DUST University declined our terms so we entered the Planetary Conquest map.

Within moments my squad began purging DUST University Infantry on behalf of our employers. I immediately dropped a madrugar with full kit and began my work, massacring as many DUST University personnel as possible in the early moments of the game.

Unfortunately Seraphim Initiative was myopic and could not tell friend from foe so they blew my tank up. Oh well, we moved along and immediately began dropping jeeps into the fray to educate the University in the folly of their ways. After a few bumper kisses the Seraphim Crew helpfully killed me again.

meanwhile my minions were loose in the wire and hunting the University fools who were desperately attempting to salvage the battle and hold the district. To prove the futility of such I charged the bumper of a gunnlogi and got driven over thus reducing the clone count yet again.

Finally after much heated violence DUST University lost the district via clone count.

Sucks to be them.

When Grief university enters the battle and delivers our ultimatum understand: You will pay our demanded ransom, or we will remove your district from your hands.

We are also open for hire. if you want someone screwed, Grief University is your tool, for we are standing on the shoulders of giants among griefers to bring misery to our targets. We are here to insure your victory... unless the victim meets our demands and doubles the payment.

That is all.

Or is it?

As the CEO id like to say well done for playing a tactic that was brought up by myself at several round tables at Fanfest.

I personally have no problem with the implementation of the infiltration of a corp. That is all part of being in New Eden, where I've lived now for over 4 years.

However this particular way of infiltrating a PC match is going to be be serverly curtailed and soon enough your going to have to work a lot harder to be able to pull this off again. Now, you'd know this if you been paying attention to various sources. A roster system and a new role being added allowing the kicking of a player from a corp match is under discussion.

Announcing how you 'accomplished' a laughably easy, soon to plugged exploit seems misguided as far as advertising your 'services' is concerned.

As has been already mentioned by many on this thread so far, DUST University has always had an open door policy, your alleged skill as an infiltrator is currently based on the ingenious exploit of simply being invited to join on application. Hardly the work of someone claiming to be the New Eden equilivant of Kim Philby.

As to the matter of a ransom I urge you to dream a little bigger. 100m ISK, while a not inconsiderable sum in Dust, is rather pitiful in comparison to the wallets of even a modestly funded corp such as ours.

All this incident has done is to alert other corps as to this possible exploit and how to do it themselves, saving the cost of paying you to do it.

I would suggest to you that as a marketing campaign, what you've accomplished here is the New Eden equilivant of new recipe Coca Cola.

And do your research next time.. Everyone in New Eden knows, though apparently not your good selves, that E-UNI and by inference D-UNI don't pay ransoms.

Good day to you. o7

We at Grief Uni will in fact honor who ever is the highest bidder. This means that if you pay our ransom we will leave you alone. This has actually already occurred in one of our more covert operations.

I wasn't at fanfest.

this actually plays into my goals well. We at Grief University are here to stress-test the theories of griefing so they may be utilized by the public to bring suffering to each other. When CCP nerfs this particular strike vector, we shall test another until such time as we find a workaround then educate the public in the fashion of an actual learning group.

If CCP plugs it we'll find yet another way to break the game for people who think blue on blue should be eliminated. There will always be a market for destruction and sabotage, and so long as there is, we will have both purpose and employment. There is always a market for individuals willing to be the dirty hand grubbing through the pile of crap to find an advantage over the enemy.

The metagame won't sleep, and there's always someone looking for an edge. We will make sure that edge is there, and that it remains sharp for the real giants among New Eden Intel.



it was an irony thing. We knew damn well you'd never pay up. On the other hand I must applaud the quality of responses from your corporation. There is a distinct lack of gorilla-like chestbeating and roaring impotently. So far your comments are well thought out and considered.

By the way, we were actually hoping your teachers and competent warfighters would be the ones you were fielding. it would make this feel less like a teenager robbing a kindergarten class. DUST University is unlikely to be the target of further aggression, as let's face it. it would be far more fun to fry a real corp.




That actually accomplishes our charter goals nicely. The dissemination of subversive tactics, sabotage and Intel-theft is our purpose. We stress-test the theorycrafting so you, the consumer can partake in an EVE-style metagame. As said earlier the choice of targets, though distasteful, was done for pure irony.



And you as well.

We were actually counting on that in order for the operation to succeed. Nevermind even were you inclined, unless CCP fixed something, you couldn't.

To put matters to rest I believe most here have a mistaken impression. I am the villain of this piece, but I am not aiming for greatness and a place in New Eden History.

I'm the snidely Whiplash of DUST 514, the minor villain who will lay your weaknesses and wounds bare that greater forces than I can attack them.

CCP provided the game. We're just making sure New Eden has access to the toolkit.

More theorycrafting and pain to come in the future.

We look forward to educating you.

Educate us further on how it's good policy to give out your contractor and admit to back stabbing those who even try to contract you?

Lots of words - but what was even really said that matters?

Good question. We'll be sure to mention it if our employers are ever interested in paying us for our discretion as well.

Wait. no we won't. Our silence was never part of the arrangement.

We asked.

Note how I'm now ur current employer now attack us.

Good question. We'll be sure to mention it if our employers are ever interested in paying us for our discretion as well.

Wait. no we won't. Our silence was never part of the arrangement.

We asked.

Good question. We'll be sure to mention it if our employers are ever interested in paying us for our discretion as well.

Wait. no we won't. Our silence was never part of the arrangement.

We asked.

pay up first. We do our business up front.

Lmao dude ur wasting my time later.

Oh. by the way, this wasn't done to educate the tryhard console kiddies.

This was a thread for the EVE intel geeks who have just realized they have a multitude of expendable assets nestled deep in enemy ranks.

some of these assets are director-level, and can allow expendable assets in.

You tryhards are worrying far too much about me, and far too little about the EVE nerds you deride amongst you who have been doing this kind of thing for YEARS.

You're all screwed.

And it's delicious.

Feel free to attack us anytime you want Ill Omens. :3

Same to you imps I'm sure we will clash soon if only for fun. I don't think we got to fight u will we still has CBS. While I don't like some of your members I can't wait to test my guys against imp might . If u would like a fight without districts a take please send me a mail

I wasn't at fanfest.

this actually plays into my goals well. We at Grief University are here to stress-test the theories of griefing so they may be utilized by the public to bring suffering to each other. When CCP nerfs this particular strike vector, we shall test another until such time as we find a workaround then educate the public in the fashion of an actual learning group.

If CCP plugs it we'll find yet another way to break the game for people who think blue on blue should be eliminated. There will always be a market for destruction and sabotage, and so long as there is, we will have both purpose and employment. There is always a market for individuals willing to be the dirty hand grubbing through the pile of crap to find an advantage over the enemy.

The metagame won't sleep, and there's always someone looking for an edge. We will make sure that edge is there, and that it remains sharp for the real giants among New Eden Intel.

it was an irony thing. We knew damn well you'd never pay up. On the other hand I must applaud the quality of responses from your corporation. There is a distinct lack of gorilla-like chestbeating and roaring impotently. So far your comments are well thought out and considered.

By the way, we were actually hoping your teachers and competent warfighters would be the ones you were fielding. it would make this feel less like a teenager robbing a kindergarten class. DUST University is unlikely to be the target of further aggression, as let's face it. it would be far more fun to fry a real corp.

That actually accomplishes our charter goals nicely. The dissemination of subversive tactics, sabotage and Intel-theft is our purpose. We stress-test the theorycrafting so you, the consumer can partake in an EVE-style metagame. As said earlier the choice of targets, though distasteful, was done for pure irony.

To put matters to rest I believe most here have a mistaken impression. I am the villain of this piece, but I am not aiming for greatness and a place in New Eden History.

I'm the snidely Whiplash of DUST 514, the minor villain who will lay your weaknesses and wounds bare that greater forces than I can attack them.

CCP provided the game. We're just making sure New Eden has access to the toolkit.

More theorycrafting and pain to come in the future.

We look forward to educating you.

Back-stabbing, infiltration, up-rooting empires...

We see it happen all across New Eden, so it shouldn't be anything new to us. After all, one of EVE's biggest phrase is "Trust absolutely no one." This saying should hold true in DUST 514 as well. Members within your corporation may share a common goal, but their motives to achieve that goal will clearly be different from your own. As will the process they go about reaching that goal.

As you stated, the metagame won't sleep. There are always edges for people to gain the upper hand on their opponent. One such risk we take entering Planetary Conquest was indeed being infiltrated and having our match thrown in the enemies favor, it's something that should be expected. It's something that'll happen to everyone sooner or later.

It's these things that lured me to the EVE Universe, and it's these things I enjoy seeing. No matter how frustrating it can be, at the end of the day, it's just a game and I can eventually laugh it off and say "Well... that surely was well played." Because I know expecting the unexpected is what New Eden preaches on a daily basis.

I honestly would hate to see a mechanic implemented to remove someone from a match. Nor do I want to see friend fire turned off in Planetary Conquests.

After all... PC is suppose to be the more "risky" game play offered by CCP for DUST 514. It's a risk for everyone involved.



Gorilla-like chest pounding and roaring impotently is something left to people who don't understand that this is New Eden. As I said, this is what is to be expected. The majority of the D-UNI members who posted here are familiar with how New Eden is, and that's probably why we're chillaxed about what happened.

We've all seen the posts, and we see that many are calling for blood due to the attack on a otherwise neutral University. Frankly, I have to applaud you for doing something we should have been expecting, and even briefly discussed during internal classes.

We weren't prepared and we lost a district because of it. Good game.




Sadly, I'm sure you'll be going down in history. Attacking RIFT and D-UNI well within twenty-four hours of each other, this very thread being up prior to or during the engagement that took place between RIFT and PRO.



Oh... I am waiting.

Naedeus, I like you.

By the way. We're not taking anymore contracts on D-Uni. While the clusterfuck was good for a chuckle, it wasn't really as fun as we'd hoped. We were honestly hoping to fight your big dogs.

Irony is fun but we consider your mission as/more important to the game as our own. If no one will educate the new players they will give up and quit from frustration. Doing this once provides a lesson and a certain ironic flavor.

We have no interest in doing it twice. The tryhards have already decided you are to be wiped from Molden heath.

I look forward to seeing your students again in combat once they're a bit better seasoned. preferably not under contract to Awox them.

Although i'd understand if they were itching for some payback.

I was trying not to laugh for it was the first time I had heard of a good grief on Dust. (as much as it was probably the easiest and it WAS against us, come now, I love this type of fun. intrigue bro)

LOL How about I take a mushroom and enjoy eve-tards all night long? EVE holds no influence here because CCP can't program a rubber chicken.

Do you think your special for doing something any idiot can pull off? You realize how many alts I have in every single corp? I could pull this trick off and just LOL my way through - anyone could.

You guys are either special-ed or just enjoy beating your chest to no one who cares. Your not special and can be replaced by a monkey.

First of all, be careful with your jumping to conclusions, because EVE players have been doing this sort of thing for years, just not in an FPS. Also, I don't think you understand what CCP are capable of. You seem to be basing your judgment of them entirely with what they've accomplished on DUST. That's a mistake. When DUST and EVE are fully interlinked, I guarantee you you're going to see something you've never seen done before, and it's most likely going to come from EVE players, even if it doesn't come from EVE itself. Especially when the economies are fully entwined. As soon as CFC is able to directly funnel resources from EVE to DUST, we're pretty much all screwed anyway. If HBC doesn't get there first, of course.

Don't underestimate people who know far more about the way New Eden and CCP work. I agree, this Grief Uni lot seem to be pretty lame, and using some imaginary "power of EVE" to prove a point means nothing, since they don't actually seem to have any influence in EVE, but it would be a mistake to assume that people from EVE are never going to be able to influence the goings-on in DUST, just as much as people in DUST will have influence over the happenings in aspects of EVE.

And also, a large percentage of DUST's core audience is EVE players. Whether it's a majority or a minority, I couldn't say, but I doubt it would be a tiny one if it's the latter. Best not to forget that, because there will be people just silently watching, and waiting, and taking names.

Didn't read past first few sentences - didn't need too. You seem to forget how slow CCP is at doing anything. EVE and DUST will be linked - sure - but not for another year. You guys seem to think EVE matters - It doesn't. I want it too - I want everything you say to come true and make me regret my words. But it's not happening for another year or plus

I'm not forgetting anything. Slow or fast, it's going to happen. That's my only point. How long it takes is irrelevant. And I don't care what you choose to read or not read, ignorance is entirely your choice in that regard.

Ignoring what's in front of you and pretending the future is now is ignorance to me. But to each there own.

You should be listening to this man

Ignoring my words, and what I was saying, is leading you to the assumption that I am talking about now. The true mark of a COD kiddie - unable to see the bigger picture.

Is it? I'll give it a read through later then. Most comparison to EVE and DUST have been utter bullshit so far so I may of jumped the gun when you tried to compare it yourself - but the meta of the two games may be more similar then I expect.

Still so much for me to grasp.

My question is, why do you assume they're some how getting into Corp Battles with players in their Corp? It's painfully obvious. Spy works him/herself into the Corporation, possibly have dozens of Alts available in each corp, must corps have shockingly bad security anyways. Then come the right time for an important corpbattle, Spy invites Grief Uni, joins the battle and leaves immediately, hopefully not being caught. This reduces the team by 5, and also makes it a 16 v 11 v 5. Beautiful

Not saying I've met any of the guys, nor do I have anything in mind to do such a thing, but it does seem painfully ******* obvious, despite all these people stating Grief Uni will never be hired, that **** we do not know.

Two corps hammered.

Hell most capsuelleers make that in a day.

Ooohhhh this thread explains the current fourm battle. So false flag op clearly. Just a case of people wanting to be internet famous and found an easy in with dust uni during a battle disappointed with op the fakeness and tryhard is to easy to see. Even the trolls are struggleing to get this one of thr ground. Next time net famous pic a stronger target and don't try so hard to get it noticed

Two corps slammed for a hefty profit. And our corporate costs? We have destroyed the aspirations of two corps for the low, low price of "free".

BTW - the devs are going to be smiling like cheshire cats when they read about all of this stuff - good job G-Uni, I think you just made CCP's day.

This is the kind of enthusiasm that makes the UNI corps great. Thank you for posting our hostage notice.

Brings a tear to my eye.

NP. Why didn't you take one? Heck, if I were doing that, I'd be Twitch casting that kitten. ;)

On a different note: do you recall how much SP you got from that fight?
Team killing is a unique case where it's one of the only ways to get negative WP. As such almost everyone (plants and D-UNI) ended the match with 0 WP.

Since WP translates to SP, I was wondering if players got tons of SP for tons of kills, or little SP for the 0 WP.
???

So basically what you do is have 1 alt in a corp and use them to jump a squad into a fight and then ransom the corp? Well this will work once because most corps will be recording their fights so no matter how quick the guy who brought them in jumps back out if its on tape he's done in that corp so unless you have dozens of alts per corp its pretty much a one time deal per corp really.

I got a little over 6,000 SP for the match, and 0 ISK. it's a good thing I got bankrolled ahead of time!

And there goes your credibility as a mercenary corp. Good luck finding a contract worth any weight now. My advice? Delete this post before it destroys your reputation.

Intel costs extra.

But more seriously, 5 SP per second the match lasts + 1 SP per Warpoint.

basically this is the AFKer formula. You're guaranteed the greatest Sp rewards for just being there. warpoint rewards are a distant second.

basically the match lasted about twenty minutes before we hunted down the last clone and put a round through the back of his head. So 20 minutes = 1200 seconds = 6000 SP.

Oh I hope so.

But if your MCC exploded that means you lost... and your district won't be making replacement clones until your next reinforce timer comes and goes without another defeat. Which means we have left you more vulnerable to attack than before... unless you pay 80 million more ISk for a genolution pack.

Gorilla-like chest-pounding and ineffectual roaring

methinks the lady doth protest too much.

What? Because you had no real impact and didn't manage to deliver on your deal with PRO? All you've done is taught us how to avoid this happening again when it might have had an actually serious consequence. So, actually thank you.

when we finished the match you had 104 clones remaining.

now you have over 300.

You either bought a geno pack and reinforced, or you shuffled clones from another location to reinforce and bought a geno pack to cover up the loss in another district.

leave the metagaming to your diplomats junior, I'm not playing to win by rules you understand. i've already won. And only a few people understand why.

when we finished the match you had 104 clones remaining.

now you have over 300.

You either bought a geno pack and reinforced, or you shuffled clones from another location to reinforce and bought a geno pack to cover up the loss in another district.

leave the metagaming to your diplomats junior, I'm not playing to win by rules you understand. i've already won. And only a few people understand why.

I'm puzzled to why they chose dust uni and us, we have a fairly low profile.

when we finished the match you had 104 clones remaining.

now you have over 300.

You either bought a geno pack and reinforced, or you shuffled clones from another location to reinforce and bought a geno pack to cover up the loss in another district.

leave the metagaming to your diplomats junior, I'm not playing to win by rules you understand. i've already won. And only a few people understand why.

Edit: on another note, I'm curious as to why they would've had to have been hired. It seems that they could do this trick at will, get the ransom and leave, no one is the wiser. There is no original corp who got screwed over, therefore you keep a modicum of credibility should the ransom get paid (seems unlikely but rumors are someone has paid).

Oh I feel bad for not having gotten on the forums at 5am to check for this sort of thread before my morning PC battle.

However, a smart con-man/spy always plays the long game, looks for an opportunity to do the most damage and actually achieve something. You, sir, have achieved very little.

And as for not seeking glory? Why did you start this thread then? Why reveal your plan to the world? Now everyone knows and will do what they can to be a lot more careful - sure there are still ways to get around background checks and whatnot but because everyone knows now, your job is going to be that much harder.

I applaud the attempts and the sentiment of your piracy but you can and should do better. Best of luck for the future; I'm thinking you'l' be needing it.

It's called advertisement.

Holy crap, are 90% of the posters in this thread as dumb as their posts suggest?

People are falling all over each other to scream how dumb Grief Uni was for making this post, when they don't even seem to understand what was done... or how they could be the next target... or the next employer.

And for those who claim that EVE meta-game rules don't apply, clearly you don't understand what happened here.

*throws hands up*

Just another day of clueless pubbies posting on the forums.

all i have to say is if its advertisement then it the worse way to do it.
"look over here expert saboteurs hire us for your dirty work o and here is a massive sigh with are last employer go ask them about are extra discreet service just an extra 50mil"

I can't speak for SI but I don't think are leadership would pay these jokers

Good question. We'll be sure to mention it if our employers are ever interested in paying us for our discretion as well.

Wait. no we won't. Our silence was never part of the arrangement.

We asked.

If it was meant to be some grand advertising scheme and they have successfully infiltrated mega corps why didn't they target them 1st for a larger impact.

Dust university may of caused some publicity but targeting R.i.f.t, really, did they think people were going to care and start posting topics about how we got "shockingly" infiltrated.

It's called advertisement.

Holy crap, are 90% of the posters in this thread as dumb as their posts suggest?

People are falling all over each other to scream how dumb Grief Uni was for making this post, when they don't even seem to understand what was done... or how they could be the next target... or the next employer.

And for those who claim that EVE meta-game rules don't apply, clearly you don't understand what happened here.

*throws hands up*

Just another day of clueless pubbies posting on the forums.

You clearly missed the part where they failed to actually gain PRO the district they were paid to serve up - yeah, great advertising. It's not hard to lose someone 450 clones in one match if you continuously suicide - these 'griefers' clearly suck as griefing.

It's like I'm talking to a brick wall.

*shakes head*

Please explain how I'm wrong? They failed to deliver on one of their two 'contracts' that have been revealed. How is this being common knowledge good advertising? Why would anyone hire these guys to infiltrate and throw a match when they can't even kill themselves 450 times?

I know people say any publicity is good publicity but this is hardly true when you're trying to build a reputation as someone who can achieve results and you fail to achieve those results.

So, pix or it didn't happen:

http://s8.postimg.org/nd38qhzb9/intriguing.jpg
(...way to spell, me)


4 years in EVE:
Never got to experience any meta-play firsthand. :(

2 months in Dust:
Success! X3


So far I'm really liking this game! ;)

First Rule of New Eden... Everyone has an agenda.
Second Rule of New Eden... EVERYONE. HAS. AN. AGENDA.
Third Rule of New Eden... If you think you know what is going on, refer to Rules One and Two.

Sgt. Ry'nar Blackfeather, OSD Ground Forces
Cmdr. Rynar Johnson, OSD Naval Forces