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Blapathon Tanker Grief University 0	Posted - 2013.05.17 22:45:00 - [1] - Quote After successfully entering the Planetary conquest battle on behalf of DUST University uninvited my corp and I delivered our ultimatum. Pay 100 million ISK or lose the District. DUST University declined our terms so we entered the Planetary Conquest map. Within moments my squad began purging DUST University Infantry on behalf of our employers. I immediately dropped a madrugar with full kit and began my work, massacring as many DUST University personnel as possible in the early moments of the game. Unfortunately Seraphim Initiative was myopic and could not tell friend from foe so they blew my tank up. Oh well, we moved along and immediately began dropping jeeps into the fray to educate the University in the folly of their ways. After a few bumper kisses the Seraphim Crew helpfully killed me again. meanwhile my minions were loose in the wire and hunting the University fools who were desperately attempting to salvage the battle and hold the district. To prove the futility of such I charged the bumper of a gunnlogi and got driven over thus reducing the clone count yet again. Finally after much heated violence DUST University lost the district via clone count. Sucks to be them. When Grief university enters the battle and delivers our ultimatum understand: You will pay our demanded ransom, or we will remove your district from your hands. We are also open for hire. if you want someone screwed, Grief University is your tool, for we are standing on the shoulders of giants among griefers to bring misery to our targets. We are here to insure your victory... unless the victim meets our demands and doubles the payment. That is all. Or is it?
Blapathon Tanker Grief University 1	Posted - 2013.05.17 22:55:00 - [2] - Quote Vallud Eadesso wrote: And there goes your credibility as a mercenary corp. Good luck finding a contract worth any weight now. My advice? Delete this post before it destroys your reputation. Actually i think my rep is right where I want it to be. Reputation doesn't trump results.
Blapathon Tanker Grief University 1	Posted - 2013.05.17 23:00:00 - [3] - Quote Vallud Eadesso wrote: [quote=Blapathon Tanker] You've got a lot to learn about New Eden. Read what Mr CSM said above me. no, no I don't. Assumptions will bite you in the ass sooner or later.
Blapathon Tanker Grief University 1	Posted - 2013.05.17 23:17:00 - [4] - Quote King Kobrah wrote: OP I suggest you take some form of english class, your writing is so convoluted it's hard to understand what actually happened here. Also, you sabotaged one of the worst corporations in the game, that's not an accomplishment or topic worthy. no it's not. it's a precedent.
Blapathon Tanker Grief University 8	Posted - 2013.05.18 00:12:00 - [5] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Also, the devs are working on providing Corps with the tools to boot unwelcome arrivals from their Corp battles. so CCP is making this game carebear paradise? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Blapathon Tanker Grief University 9	Posted - 2013.05.18 07:15:00 - [6] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: As the CEO id like to say well done for playing a tactic that was brought up by myself at several round tables at Fanfest. I personally have no problem with the implementation of the infiltration of a corp. That is all part of being in New Eden, where I've lived now for over 4 years. However this particular way of infiltrating a PC match is going to be be serverly curtailed and soon enough your going to have to work a lot harder to be able to pull this off again. Now, you'd know this if you been paying attention to various sources. A roster system and a new role being added allowing the kicking of a player from a corp match is under discussion. Announcing how you 'accomplished' a laughably easy, soon to plugged exploit seems misguided as far as advertising your 'services' is concerned. I wasn't at fanfest. this actually plays into my goals well. We at Grief University are here to stress-test the theories of griefing so they may be utilized by the public to bring suffering to each other. When CCP nerfs this particular strike vector, we shall test another until such time as we find a workaround then educate the public in the fashion of an actual learning group. If CCP plugs it we'll find yet another way to break the game for people who think blue on blue should be eliminated. There will always be a market for destruction and sabotage, and so long as there is, we will have both purpose and employment. There is always a market for individuals willing to be the dirty hand grubbing through the pile of crap to find an advantage over the enemy. The metagame won't sleep, and there's always someone looking for an edge. We will make sure that edge is there, and that it remains sharp for the real giants among New Eden Intel. Quote: As has been already mentioned by many on this thread so far, DUST University has always had an open door policy, your alleged skill as an infiltrator is currently based on the ingenious exploit of simply being invited to join on application. Hardly the work of someone claiming to be the New Eden equilivant of Kim Philby. As to the matter of a ransom I urge you to dream a little bigger. 100m ISK, while a not inconsiderable sum in Dust, is rather pitiful in comparison to the wallets of even a modestly funded corp such as ours. it was an irony thing. We knew damn well you'd never pay up. On the other hand I must applaud the quality of responses from your corporation. There is a distinct lack of gorilla-like chestbeating and roaring impotently. So far your comments are well thought out and considered. By the way, we were actually hoping your teachers and competent warfighters would be the ones you were fielding. it would make this feel less like a teenager robbing a kindergarten class. DUST University is unlikely to be the target of further aggression, as let's face it. it would be far more fun to fry a real corp. Quote: All this incident has done is to alert other corps as to this possible exploit and how to do it themselves, saving the cost of paying you to do it. I would suggest to you that as a marketing campaign, what you've accomplished here is the New Eden equilivant of new recipe Coca Cola. That actually accomplishes our charter goals nicely. The dissemination of subversive tactics, sabotage and Intel-theft is our purpose. We stress-test the theorycrafting so you, the consumer can partake in an EVE-style metagame. As said earlier the choice of targets, though distasteful, was done for pure irony. Quote: And do your research next time.. Everyone in New Eden knows, though apparently not your good selves, that E-UNI and by inference D-UNI don't pay ransoms. Good day to you. o7 And you as well. We were actually counting on that in order for the operation to succeed. Nevermind even were you inclined, unless CCP fixed something, you couldn't. To put matters to rest I believe most here have a mistaken impression. I am the villain of this piece, but I am not aiming for greatness and a place in New Eden History. I'm the snidely Whiplash of DUST 514, the minor villain who will lay your weaknesses and wounds bare that greater force3s than I can attack them. CCP provided the game. We're just making sure New Eden has access to the toolkit. More theorycrafting and pain to come in the future. We look forward to educating you.
Blapathon Tanker Grief University 9	Posted - 2013.05.18 07:30:00 - [7] - Quote SoTa ReGnUM PoP wrote: Educate us further on how it's good policy to give out your contractor and admit to back stabbing those who even try to contract you? Lots of words - but what was even really said that matters? Good question. We'll be sure to mention it if our employers are ever interested in paying us for our discretion as well. Wait. no we won't. Our silence was never part of the arrangement. We asked.
Blapathon Tanker Grief University 9	Posted - 2013.05.18 07:34:00 - [8] - Quote NIKIA BETHUNE wrote: Note how I'm now ur current employer now attack us. pay up first. We do our business up front.
Blapathon Tanker Grief University 9	Posted - 2013.05.18 07:43:00 - [9] - Quote Oh. by the way, this wasn't done to educate the tryhard console kiddies. This was a thread for the EVE intel geeks who have just realized they have a multitude of expendable assets nestled deep in enemy ranks. some of these assets are director-level, and can allow expendable assets in. You tryhards are worrying far too much about me, and far too little about the EVE nerds you deride amongst you who have been doing this kind of thing for YEARS. You're all screwed. And it's delicious.
Blapathon Tanker Grief University 10	Posted - 2013.05.18 08:10:00 - [10] - Quote Naedeus, I like you. By the way. We're not taking anymore contracts on D-Uni. While the clusterfuck was good for a chuckle, it wasn't really as fun as we'd hoped. We were honestly hoping to fight your big dogs. Irony is fun but we consider your mission as/more important to the game as our own. If no one will educate the new players they will give up and quit from frustration. Doing this once provides a lesson and a certain ironic flavor. We have no interest in doing it twice. The tryhards have already decided you are to be wiped from Molden heath. I look forward to seeing your students again in combat once they're a bit better seasoned. preferably not under contract to Awox them. Although i'd understand if they were itching for some payback.

Blapathon Tanker Grief University 11	Posted - 2013.05.18 09:05:00 - [11] - Quote Jaron Pollard wrote: You should be listening to this man I agree with pretty much everything he said. but is it shortsighted when you achieve every single objective in a single stroke for this grand experiment? it is an experiment, by the way. And we aren't done yet. Two corps hammered. expect more happy fun time soon.
Blapathon Tanker Grief University 11	Posted - 2013.05.18 09:26:00 - [12] - Quote We would hardly be doing our jobs if we weren't already theorycrafting ways around this problem when CCP nerfs our current, abused tool. We are a university. We're just a university dedicated to insuring that the blue donut will be packed with C4 and remotely detonated. Non-Agression is the enemy. Complacency is the enemy. Low-rent tryhards who think that they are immune to the metagame are the enemy. These are the things we promise to find methods to overcome. Conflict breeds innovation, chaos and opportunity. All three are good. E-Honor doesn't impress us. if we were interested in a fair fight we'd go pick one with the imperfects. But we're not interested in fair. ISK is our interest. We at least are getting paid for our experimentation, unlike some "mercenaries" one might care to name. I think so far we're the only ones who can claim to be mercs. Two corps slammed for a hefty profit. And our corporate costs? We have destroyed the aspirations of two corps for the low, low price of "free." oh wait, it cost us two sh**fit Madrugars. Ok we lost like 1.8 million ISK. Whoop dee do.
Blapathon Tanker Grief University 12	Posted - 2013.05.18 10:09:00 - [13] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: Ooohhhh this thread explains the current fourm battle. So false flag op clearly. Just a case of people wanting to be internet famous and found an easy in with dust uni during a battle disappointed with op the fakeness and tryhard is to easy to see. Even the trolls are struggleing to get this one of thr ground. Next time net famous pic a stronger target and don't try so hard to get it noticed Actually we got R.i.f.t a few hours later: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=78991 expect to see more of us.
Blapathon Tanker Grief University 12	Posted - 2013.05.18 10:31:00 - [14] - Quote Django Quik wrote: BTW - the devs are going to be smiling like cheshire cats when they read about all of this stuff - good job G-Uni, I think you just made CCP's day. Oh I hope so. But if your MCC exploded that means you lost... and your district won't be making replacement clones until your next reinforce timer comes and goes without another defeat. Which means we have left you more vulnerable to attack than before... unless you pay 80 million more ISk for a genolution pack.
Blapathon Tanker Grief University 12	Posted - 2013.05.18 10:39:00 - [15] - Quote This is the kind of enthusiasm that makes the UNI corps great. Thank you for posting our hostage notice. Brings a tear to my eye. Also Synther: we got paid. that's why we picked you.
Blapathon Tanker Grief University 12	Posted - 2013.05.18 11:01:00 - [16] - Quote Celus Ivara wrote: Blapathon Tanker wrote: This is the kind of enthusiasm that makes the UNI corps great. Thank you for posting our hostage notice. Brings a tear to my eye. NP. Why didn't you take one? Heck, if I were doing that, I'd be Twitch casting that kitten. ;) On a different note: do you recall how much SP you got from that fight? Team killing is a unique case where it's one of the only ways to get negative WP. As such almost everyone (plants and D-UNI) ended the match with 0 WP. Since WP translates to SP, I was wondering if players got tons of SP for tons of kills, or little SP for the 0 WP. ??? I got a little over 6,000 SP for the match, and 0 ISK. it's a good thing I got bankrolled ahead of time!
Blapathon Tanker Grief University 13	Posted - 2013.05.18 11:28:00 - [17] - Quote Medic 1879 wrote: So basically what you do is have 1 alt in a corp and use them to jump a squad into a fight and then ransom the corp? Well this will work once because most corps will be recording their fights so no matter how quick the guy who brought them in jumps back out if its on tape he's done in that corp so unless you have dozens of alts per corp its pretty much a one time deal per corp really. You say this like it's a revelation to us, or that it's even a problem, really.
Blapathon Tanker Grief University 13	Posted - 2013.05.18 11:31:00 - [18] - Quote Celus Ivara wrote: I got a little over 6,000 SP for the match, and 0 ISK. it's a good thing I got bankrolled ahead of time! Hrmm, that number is hard to read for me. It feels low for killing a bunch of dudes, but seems way high for pity SP for a 0 WP match. Is that before or after Active Booster? Is that with bonus SP?[/quote] Intel costs extra. But more seriously, 5 SP per second the match lasts + 1 SP per Warpoint. basically this is the AFKer formula. You're guaranteed the greatest Sp rewards for just being there. warpoint rewards are a distant second. basically the match lasted about twenty minutes before we hunted down the last clone and put a round through the back of his head. So 20 minutes = 1200 seconds = 6000 SP.
Blapathon Tanker Grief University 13	Posted - 2013.05.18 12:08:00 - [19] - Quote Django Quik wrote: Gorilla-like chest-pounding and ineffectual roaring methinks the lady doth protest too much.
Blapathon Tanker Grief University 13	Posted - 2013.05.18 12:25:00 - [20] - Quote Django Quik wrote: Blapathon Tanker wrote: Django Quik wrote: Gorilla-like chest-pounding and ineffectual roaring methinks the lady doth protest too much. What? Because you had no real impact and didn't manage to deliver on your deal with PRO? All you've done is taught us how to avoid this happening again when it might have had an actually serious consequence. So, actually thank you. when we finished the match you had 104 clones remaining. now you have over 300. You either bought a geno pack and reinforced, or you shuffled clones from another location to reinforce and bought a geno pack to cover up the loss in another district. leave the metagaming to your diplomats junior, I'm not playing to win by rules you understand. i've already won. And only a few people understand why.

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