After successfully entering the Planetary conquest battle on behalf of DUST University uninvited my corp and I delivered our ultimatum.

Pay 100 million ISK or lose the District.

DUST University declined our terms so we entered the Planetary Conquest map.

Within moments my squad began purging DUST University Infantry on behalf of our employers. I immediately dropped a madrugar with full kit and began my work, massacring as many DUST University personnel as possible in the early moments of the game.

Unfortunately Seraphim Initiative was myopic and could not tell friend from foe so they blew my tank up. Oh well, we moved along and immediately began dropping jeeps into the fray to educate the University in the folly of their ways. After a few bumper kisses the Seraphim Crew helpfully killed me again.

meanwhile my minions were loose in the wire and hunting the University fools who were desperately attempting to salvage the battle and hold the district. To prove the futility of such I charged the bumper of a gunnlogi and got driven over thus reducing the clone count yet again.

Finally after much heated violence DUST University lost the district via clone count.

Sucks to be them.

When Grief university enters the battle and delivers our ultimatum understand: You will pay our demanded ransom, or we will remove your district from your hands.

We are also open for hire. if you want someone screwed, Grief University is your tool, for we are standing on the shoulders of giants among griefers to bring misery to our targets. We are here to insure your victory... unless the victim meets our demands and doubles the payment.

That is all.

Or is it?

As the CEO id like to say well done for playing a tactic that was brought up by myself at several round tables at Fanfest.

I personally have no problem with the implementation of the infiltration of a corp. That is all part of being in New Eden, where I've lived now for over 4 years.

However this particular way of infiltrating a PC match is going to be be serverly curtailed and soon enough your going to have to work a lot harder to be able to pull this off again. Now, you'd know this if you been paying attention to various sources. A roster system and a new role being added allowing the kicking of a player from a corp match is under discussion.

Announcing how you 'accomplished' a laughably easy, soon to plugged exploit seems misguided as far as advertising your 'services' is concerned.

As has been already mentioned by many on this thread so far, DUST University has always had an open door policy, your alleged skill as an infiltrator is currently based on the ingenious exploit of simply being invited to join on application. Hardly the work of someone claiming to be the New Eden equilivant of Kim Philby.

As to the matter of a ransom I urge you to dream a little bigger. 100m ISK, while a not inconsiderable sum in Dust, is rather pitiful in comparison to the wallets of even a modestly funded corp such as ours.

All this incident has done is to alert other corps as to this possible exploit and how to do it themselves, saving the cost of paying you to do it.

I would suggest to you that as a marketing campaign, what you've accomplished here is the New Eden equilivant of new recipe Coca Cola.

And do your research next time.. Everyone in New Eden knows, though apparently not your good selves, that E-UNI and by inference D-UNI don't pay ransoms.

Good day to you. o7

We at Grief Uni will in fact honor who ever is the highest bidder. This means that if you pay our ransom we will leave you alone. This has actually already occurred in one of our more covert operations.

I wasn't at fanfest.

this actually plays into my goals well. We at Grief University are here to stress-test the theories of griefing so they may be utilized by the public to bring suffering to each other. When CCP nerfs this particular strike vector, we shall test another until such time as we find a workaround then educate the public in the fashion of an actual learning group.

If CCP plugs it we'll find yet another way to break the game for people who think blue on blue should be eliminated. There will always be a market for destruction and sabotage, and so long as there is, we will have both purpose and employment. There is always a market for individuals willing to be the dirty hand grubbing through the pile of crap to find an advantage over the enemy.

The metagame won't sleep, and there's always someone looking for an edge. We will make sure that edge is there, and that it remains sharp for the real giants among New Eden Intel.



it was an irony thing. We knew damn well you'd never pay up. On the other hand I must applaud the quality of responses from your corporation. There is a distinct lack of gorilla-like chestbeating and roaring impotently. So far your comments are well thought out and considered.

By the way, we were actually hoping your teachers and competent warfighters would be the ones you were fielding. it would make this feel less like a teenager robbing a kindergarten class. DUST University is unlikely to be the target of further aggression, as let's face it. it would be far more fun to fry a real corp.




That actually accomplishes our charter goals nicely. The dissemination of subversive tactics, sabotage and Intel-theft is our purpose. We stress-test the theorycrafting so you, the consumer can partake in an EVE-style metagame. As said earlier the choice of targets, though distasteful, was done for pure irony.



And you as well.

We were actually counting on that in order for the operation to succeed. Nevermind even were you inclined, unless CCP fixed something, you couldn't.

To put matters to rest I believe most here have a mistaken impression. I am the villain of this piece, but I am not aiming for greatness and a place in New Eden History.

I'm the snidely Whiplash of DUST 514, the minor villain who will lay your weaknesses and wounds bare that greater forces than I can attack them.

CCP provided the game. We're just making sure New Eden has access to the toolkit.

More theorycrafting and pain to come in the future.

We look forward to educating you.

Educate us further on how it's good policy to give out your contractor and admit to back stabbing those who even try to contract you?

Lots of words - but what was even really said that matters?

Good question. We'll be sure to mention it if our employers are ever interested in paying us for our discretion as well.

Wait. no we won't. Our silence was never part of the arrangement.

We asked.

Note how I'm now ur current employer now attack us.

Good question. We'll be sure to mention it if our employers are ever interested in paying us for our discretion as well.

Wait. no we won't. Our silence was never part of the arrangement.

We asked.

Good question. We'll be sure to mention it if our employers are ever interested in paying us for our discretion as well.

Wait. no we won't. Our silence was never part of the arrangement.

We asked.

pay up first. We do our business up front.

Lmao dude ur wasting my time later.

Oh. by the way, this wasn't done to educate the tryhard console kiddies.

This was a thread for the EVE intel geeks who have just realized they have a multitude of expendable assets nestled deep in enemy ranks.

some of these assets are director-level, and can allow expendable assets in.

You tryhards are worrying far too much about me, and far too little about the EVE nerds you deride amongst you who have been doing this kind of thing for YEARS.

You're all screwed.

And it's delicious.

Feel free to attack us anytime you want Ill Omens. :3

Same to you imps I'm sure we will clash soon if only for fun. I don't think we got to fight u will we still has CBS. While I don't like some of your members I can't wait to test my guys against imp might . If u would like a fight without districts a take please send me a mail

I wasn't at fanfest.

this actually plays into my goals well. We at Grief University are here to stress-test the theories of griefing so they may be utilized by the public to bring suffering to each other. When CCP nerfs this particular strike vector, we shall test another until such time as we find a workaround then educate the public in the fashion of an actual learning group.

If CCP plugs it we'll find yet another way to break the game for people who think blue on blue should be eliminated. There will always be a market for destruction and sabotage, and so long as there is, we will have both purpose and employment. There is always a market for individuals willing to be the dirty hand grubbing through the pile of crap to find an advantage over the enemy.

The metagame won't sleep, and there's always someone looking for an edge. We will make sure that edge is there, and that it remains sharp for the real giants among New Eden Intel.

it was an irony thing. We knew damn well you'd never pay up. On the other hand I must applaud the quality of responses from your corporation. There is a distinct lack of gorilla-like chestbeating and roaring impotently. So far your comments are well thought out and considered.

By the way, we were actually hoping your teachers and competent warfighters would be the ones you were fielding. it would make this feel less like a teenager robbing a kindergarten class. DUST University is unlikely to be the target of further aggression, as let's face it. it would be far more fun to fry a real corp.

That actually accomplishes our charter goals nicely. The dissemination of subversive tactics, sabotage and Intel-theft is our purpose. We stress-test the theorycrafting so you, the consumer can partake in an EVE-style metagame. As said earlier the choice of targets, though distasteful, was done for pure irony.

To put matters to rest I believe most here have a mistaken impression. I am the villain of this piece, but I am not aiming for greatness and a place in New Eden History.

I'm the snidely Whiplash of DUST 514, the minor villain who will lay your weaknesses and wounds bare that greater forces than I can attack them.

CCP provided the game. We're just making sure New Eden has access to the toolkit.

More theorycrafting and pain to come in the future.

We look forward to educating you.

Back-stabbing, infiltration, up-rooting empires...

We see it happen all across New Eden, so it shouldn't be anything new to us. After all, one of EVE's biggest phrase is "Trust absolutely no one." This saying should hold true in DUST 514 as well. Members within your corporation may share a common goal, but their motives to achieve that goal will clearly be different from your own. As will the process they go about reaching that goal.

As you stated, the metagame won't sleep. There are always edges for people to gain the upper hand on their opponent. One such risk we take entering Planetary Conquest was indeed being infiltrated and having our match thrown in the enemies favor, it's something that should be expected. It's something that'll happen to everyone sooner or later.

It's these things that lured me to the EVE Universe, and it's these things I enjoy seeing. No matter how frustrating it can be, at the end of the day, it's just a game and I can eventually laugh it off and say "Well... that surely was well played." Because I know expecting the unexpected is what New Eden preaches on a daily basis.

I honestly would hate to see a mechanic implemented to remove someone from a match. Nor do I want to see friend fire turned off in Planetary Conquests.

After all... PC is suppose to be the more "risky" game play offered by CCP for DUST 514. It's a risk for everyone involved.



Gorilla-like chest pounding and roaring impotently is something left to people who don't understand that this is New Eden. As I said, this is what is to be expected. The majority of the D-UNI members who posted here are familiar with how New Eden is, and that's probably why we're chillaxed about what happened.

We've all seen the posts, and we see that many are calling for blood due to the attack on a otherwise neutral University. Frankly, I have to applaud you for doing something we should have been expecting, and even briefly discussed during internal classes.

We weren't prepared and we lost a district because of it. Good game.




Sadly, I'm sure you'll be going down in history. Attacking RIFT and D-UNI well within twenty-four hours of each other, this very thread being up prior to or during the engagement that took place between RIFT and PRO.



Oh... I am waiting.

Naedeus, I like you.

By the way. We're not taking anymore contracts on D-Uni. While the clusterfuck was good for a chuckle, it wasn't really as fun as we'd hoped. We were honestly hoping to fight your big dogs.

Irony is fun but we consider your mission as/more important to the game as our own. If no one will educate the new players they will give up and quit from frustration. Doing this once provides a lesson and a certain ironic flavor.

We have no interest in doing it twice. The tryhards have already decided you are to be wiped from Molden heath.

I look forward to seeing your students again in combat once they're a bit better seasoned. preferably not under contract to Awox them.

Although i'd understand if they were itching for some payback.

I was trying not to laugh for it was the first time I had heard of a good grief on Dust. (as much as it was probably the easiest and it WAS against us, come now, I love this type of fun. intrigue bro)

LOL How about I take a mushroom and enjoy eve-tards all night long? EVE holds no influence here because CCP can't program a rubber chicken.

Do you think your special for doing something any idiot can pull off? You realize how many alts I have in every single corp? I could pull this trick off and just LOL my way through - anyone could.

You guys are either special-ed or just enjoy beating your chest to no one who cares. Your not special and can be replaced by a monkey.

First of all, be careful with your jumping to conclusions, because EVE players have been doing this sort of thing for years, just not in an FPS. Also, I don't think you understand what CCP are capable of. You seem to be basing your judgment of them entirely with what they've accomplished on DUST. That's a mistake. When DUST and EVE are fully interlinked, I guarantee you you're going to see something you've never seen done before, and it's most likely going to come from EVE players, even if it doesn't come from EVE itself. Especially when the economies are fully entwined. As soon as CFC is able to directly funnel resources from EVE to DUST, we're pretty much all screwed anyway. If HBC doesn't get there first, of course.

Don't underestimate people who know far more about the way New Eden and CCP work. I agree, this Grief Uni lot seem to be pretty lame, and using some imaginary "power of EVE" to prove a point means nothing, since they don't actually seem to have any influence in EVE, but it would be a mistake to assume that people from EVE are never going to be able to influence the goings-on in DUST, just as much as people in DUST will have influence over the happenings in aspects of EVE.

And also, a large percentage of DUST's core audience is EVE players. Whether it's a majority or a minority, I couldn't say, but I doubt it would be a tiny one if it's the latter. Best not to forget that, because there will be people just silently watching, and waiting, and taking names.

Didn't read past first few sentences - didn't need too. You seem to forget how slow CCP is at doing anything. EVE and DUST will be linked - sure - but not for another year. You guys seem to think EVE matters - It doesn't. I want it too - I want everything you say to come true and make me regret my words. But it's not happening for another year or plus

I'm not forgetting anything. Slow or fast, it's going to happen. That's my only point. How long it takes is irrelevant. And I don't care what you choose to read or not read, ignorance is entirely your choice in that regard.

Ignoring what's in front of you and pretending the future is now is ignorance to me. But to each there own.

You should be listening to this man