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DJINN serious issues
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.05.10 00:47:00 -
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I can't believe it's not fixed/temporarily reverted yet. This is unbelievable.
Like others have mentioned... Wolfman's response just blows me away. Who play tests this crap before release? Where is that pic of Chuck with the caption "I don't often test my code but when I do I do it in prod?" this post badly needs it. |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
226
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Posted - 2013.05.10 00:47:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:Every FPS has different sensitivity settings and you always have to adjust to them when you first play. This build may as well be a whole new game, so ADAPT. Track your taget carefully instead of getting excited when he starts strafing away from the center of your crosshairs. INTFH, if some of us with Ds3's are still owning, the rest of you can too. Pick up your game.
Edit: This does not apply to those of you with aim assist glitches.
WHY SHOULD WE as customers of this game be FORCED to adapt to this when the concept of good aiming has been established for nearly a decade now??? Why does it feel this sluggish when I move my joystick??? I turn left a little and it doesn't turn much at all, I give it a little more gas and then its on full tilt causing you to overshoot. Close range combat is nearly IMPOSSIBLE. Two semi-skilled players that are both hip firing and strafing could keep a fire fight going for literally a minute strate and not have a victor. All they need to do is up the sensitivity settings and make the controls feel more responsive and precise. Last build was right on the line of being too sluggish but overall it worked nicely, this build...... Ive NEVER been more frustrated trying to KILL people. That's right, im not getting frustrated from dying, or glitches, im getting frustrated because of how impossibly hard it is to get kills. You tag somebody and they just hide behind cover for a minute. "but marston that's just the logical way FPS shooters work" yeah! sure! but in most other shooters, if you have good aim, you can drop somebody before they get the chance to move back..... Sure this game wasn't quite like that even last build, but it was still possible. In this build its possible to get about half way through somebodies shields unless there being REALLY unresponsive..... |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
374
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Posted - 2013.05.10 01:09:00 -
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I'm done with this game until this bullshit is fixed.
In my 25 years of gaming this is by far the worst FPS experience I have ever had.
And I played Sniper: Path of Vengeance. |
Al Lopestes
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2013.05.10 01:45:00 -
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Well. I set the sentivity to 60 for Keyboard and Mouse. i actually play better now. |
DJINN serious issues
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.05.10 01:53:00 -
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Even dropping to 90 is such a difference in speed that I have to start picking up my mouse to do a 360. ********.
Is this seriously more difficult than dropping and old config/properties file via hot fix till the get it ironed out? The unreal engine doesn't offer some default mechanics? |
DeadlyAztec11
One-Armed Bandits
229
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Posted - 2013.05.10 01:54:00 -
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xJ4ySo wrote:Chromosome's aiming was WAY better, as well as the hit detection...
That is just mad! No way! It is better now. I used to empty SMG mags into people and get no hitmarkers. Now I can actually get head shots on them... Way better, don't kid yourself cuh'. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
375
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Posted - 2013.05.10 01:54:00 -
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Al Lopestes wrote:Well. I set the sentivity to 60 for Keyboard and Mouse. i actually play better now.
Mouse DPI?
DeadlyAztec11 wrote:xJ4ySo wrote:Chromosome's aiming was WAY better, as well as the hit detection... That is just mad! No way! It is better now. I used to empty SMG mags into people and get no hitmarkers. Now I can actually get head shots on them... Way better, don't kid yourself cuh'.
The hit detection is still botched, son.
The only difference is that they removed the false blue shield flash effect so you think you're getting more legit kills now. |
TiMeSpLiT--TeR
Planetary Response Organisation
365
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Posted - 2013.05.10 01:58:00 -
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Chris F2112 wrote:N7 JETI wrote:Agreed ,aiming is completely broken both in ADS and hipfire,i cant hit anything. Maybe you are broken? The controls are wobbling. You must be playing too much bf3, but they're less wobbling. What I notice that everything are not responsive. I press r2 for grenade and it takes 4 seconds to response. Not cool. |
XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
281
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:01:00 -
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FIX OR I QUIT! |
Spyder Spyra
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:02:00 -
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If i set my X and Y sensitivity to 40 why does it keep accelerating the longer i hold the right analog in a direction? It should be one uniform speed no matter what, not getting faster over a period of time. |
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DJINN serious issues
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
10
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:08:00 -
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I dunno. I keep logging on for more punishment but just can't go past a match or two.
Trying my hardest not to give up. Taking soon long. They fixed the aurum suits though. Man that was super important. Gonna do my best to wait for the 14. Then I guess I give up too. |
TiMeSpLiT--TeR
Planetary Response Organisation
365
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:11:00 -
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Chris F2112 wrote:N7 JETI wrote:Agreed ,aiming is completely broken both in ADS and hipfire,i cant hit anything. Maybe you are broken? The controls are wobbling. You must be playing too much bf3, but they're less wobbling. What I notice that everything are not responsive. I press L2 for grenade and it takes 4 seconds to response. Not cool. |
Frontline Medic
On-Sight-Response
6
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:12:00 -
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Frontline Medic wrote:im lv 5 in most ar skills,im useing proto ars and im not haveing problems,try skilling up if you haveint or change you aim opts. this.im lv 5 in most ar skills myself and dont see a prob.try not useing AA,I dont. |
Sponglyboy Squaredoo
Not Guilty EoN.
23
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:13:00 -
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Indy Strizer wrote:
I simply prefer the aiming in chromosome.
You and I both
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Frontline Medic
On-Sight-Response
6
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:17:00 -
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DigiOps wrote:Frontline Medic wrote:im lv 5 in most ar skills,im useing proto ars and im not haveing problems,try skilling up if you haveint or change you aim opts. What does your SP investment have to do with anything? your dps gos up your range increases,has a lot to do with it imo. |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
226
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:18:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:Toyboi wrote:Baal Omniscient wrote:Every FPS has different sensitivity settings and you always have to adjust to them when you first play. This build may as well be a whole new game, so ADAPT. Track your taget carefully instead of getting excited when he starts strafing away from the center of your crosshairs. INTFH, if some of us with Ds3's are still owning, the rest of you can too. Pick up your game.
Edit: This does not apply to those of you with aim assist glitches. im so tied of reading post like this from GIGA noobs who has no idea wtf thay are doing ingame in the first place. DO NOT TELL ME TO ADAPT OR DIE... well you can but then you would have to say the same to a racedriver with no wheel so maybe you sholud consider that if you are doing good now you dident have any aim to begin with! Riiiiiiiight.... I've been playing Dust for nearly a year and have adapted to every change they have thrown our way. I co-founded a corporation that has been around for over 8 months and has not left the top 20 since the last leaderboard reset despite never topping 130 members, I ran infantry during the missile spam, I ran AV during the GOD TANK rampage, I ran standard AR's during the BREACH AR GOD MODE craze, and I dodged flying RE's during the RE Frisbee free-for-all, and you think I have no idea what I'm doing? Oh god, where have YOU been this whole time? Because I have no idea how you're still here if you were here any longer than I have been and can't even adapt to a little sensitivity change. It's not adapt or die. It's play with your sensitivity until you can manage, then practice until you get better. You all need to stop crying about it and get to work practicing, because though it might get tweaked, it likely wont be changed much for a long time.
Its not as simple as a "little sensitivity change"...... If this were as simple as lowering my settings on cod 4 from level 8 to 5 I would have adapted to that within the first day, probably within the first hour or two of playing. The controls this build legitimately feel sluggish and unresponsive. That, added with increased kick from guns, and a lower range makes anything that moves a challenge to hit, and even if we do hit the target, the fact that EVERYTHING was nerfed to all ****, makes the hit almost meaningless anyway. The only viable weapons right now are the Proto Tact Rifle, and any of the shotguns simply because they provide sooooo much upfront damage that so long as you can hit the target 30% of the time you should get a kill. EVERY other gun is obsolete at this point...... I used to be an LR specialist but i no longer see the point in it when the TR can out DPS me if the gunner can spam the fire key enough. Not to mention the end game LR is at LVL 1 when you unlock the standard LR. I mean..... whats the point of leveling it up if the only change is literally a 2 point heat build up rate..... So what do we have next??? Breach AR's?? I can shoot the TR faster then that with 40% more damage. and the list goes on. At any rate........ controls = terrabad this build. |
Rubico
BetaMax. CRONOS.
18
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:51:00 -
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bump bacause this somehow left the first page. get your **** together and do it fast CCP. |
DJINN serious issues
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
10
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Posted - 2013.05.10 03:13:00 -
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Rubico wrote:bump bacause this somehow left the first page. get your **** together and do it fast CCP.
Let me help you with that. |
Icy Xenosmilus
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
158
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Posted - 2013.05.10 03:43:00 -
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Still holding out for a hot fix. |
Buzzin Fr0g
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
99
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Posted - 2013.05.10 04:13:00 -
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Everyone I play Dust with is flabbergasted by the egregious muck up to the aiming. Bumped. |
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RO1MO69
Prima Gallicus
1
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Posted - 2013.05.10 04:43:00 -
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Just come back to "chromosome" aiming, That was not perfect but better than this... |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement
45
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Posted - 2013.05.10 04:50:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:I'm done with this game until this bullshit is fixed.
In my 25 years of gaming this is by far the worst FPS experience I have ever had.
And I played Sniper: Path of Vengeance.
I hear all the Aliens: Colonial Marines and Duke Nukem forever fans are playing Dust and saying the game play is horrible. |
Blind Nojoy
G I A N T EoN.
26
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Posted - 2013.05.10 05:28:00 -
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Marston VC wrote: At any rate........ controls = terrabad this build.
This. I actually rage quit dust today for the first time ever because the controls are unplayable, and every time I spawned in about 50 f*cking M-1 locus grenades are being spammed.
In the old build I played my sensitivity very high. Now, anything less than 90 feels like walking through a GD swamp in Zelda II, and yet when I use 90 or 100, when I aim down sights on those levels, it feels more like 50. I get that some guys are fine with the controls. Have yourselves a f*cking snickerdoodle cookie. I think they suck, and so do a sh*t ton of players that are better than me.
Adapt or die. Yep, got it.... STFU WITH ADAPT OR DIE. How about Dust 514 adapts or dies? Most likely dies, because I'd rather f*cking play yahtzee by myself in a dark room then play this crap, a game I used to enjoy a lot and was pretty good at. As much as I'd like to help my corp when PC kicks off, its not worth my own blood pressure shooting through the roof.
If it continues to fail, seems the only real option is to do the "master reset" when it's available, flush my 10 million SP down the drain, get my aurum back and play something that doesn't suck for a few months and see if this game can right itself. If it's gonna be this kind of build, I'm gonna stick my **** in the mashed potatoes. |
iLLMaTiC619
KiLo.
63
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Posted - 2013.05.10 05:31:00 -
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Icy Xenosmilus wrote:Aiming is perhaps the biggest/worst change to this build, it kills the gunplay. I don't even like aiming in with my AR, I prefer hip firing now to potentially get a few shots off.
The main problem is that the acceleration and sensitivity isn't constant through ADS and hip fire. Also, the broken aim assist screwing things up combined with the broken ranges on weapons, the inconsistency just kills things.
So of all things, please try to fix this soon, hopefully by 14th so the majority of people don't write this off.
it is really bad.. I thought I had adjusted the new aiming good on my heavy, soon as I switched to use my medium dropsuit the aim was too fast... the aiming system in the first build was waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better |
XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
282
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Posted - 2013.05.10 05:43:00 -
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The aim is just too broken in turn the game is broken I don't play broken games. So I be in the MCC commanding the ground forces. I get hate mail but I just have to say fix the game and I'll play again. |
LT Dans Legs
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
93
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Posted - 2013.05.10 05:51:00 -
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The aiming is not broke. Its just very precise. At first i thought that too. The more i play the more i like it. Its actually freakin awesome. You just need to take all tbe Dust youve ever played and throw it in the trash. Learn this build and play it like its a new game youve never played before. Take off aim assist. This new build rocks. Good job CCP. |
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CCP Wolfman
C C P C C P Alliance
341
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Posted - 2013.05.10 05:56:00 -
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Hi guys,
We are working on an update for the MKB sensitivity settings to try and address the issues that have been reported. Could I also ask that when you post feedback on the controls you can specify what control method you are using because is not always easy to distinguish if the problems being reported are for MKB, DS3 or for a third party controller. It would also be useful if you could let us know if you were also experiencing any performance issues with lag or poor frame rate at the same time.
Will keep you up to date.
Cheers
CCP Wolfman
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Protoman Is God
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
175
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Posted - 2013.05.10 05:59:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:Hi guys,
We are working on an update for the MKB sensitivity settings to try and address the issues that have been reported. Could I also ask that when you post feedback on the controls you can specify what control method you are using because is not always easy to distinguish if the problems being reported are for MKB, DS3 or for a third party controller. It would also be useful if you could let us know if you were also experiencing any performance issues with lag or poor frame rate at the same time.
Will keep you up to date.
Cheers
CCP Wolfman
DS3 is terrible |
gabriel login
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
15
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Posted - 2013.05.10 06:05:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:Hi guys,
We are working on an update for the MKB sensitivity settings to try and address the issues that have been reported. Could I also ask that when you post feedback on the controls you can specify what control method you are using because is not always easy to distinguish if the problems being reported are for MKB, DS3 or for a third party controller. It would also be useful if you could let us know if you were also experiencing any performance issues with lag or poor frame rate at the same time.
Will keep you up to date.
Cheers
CCP Wolfman
DS3 please fix this without it we dont have the tools to play the game.
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XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
282
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Posted - 2013.05.10 06:06:00 -
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Protoman Is God wrote:CCP Wolfman wrote:Hi guys,
We are working on an update for the MKB sensitivity settings to try and address the issues that have been reported. Could I also ask that when you post feedback on the controls you can specify what control method you are using because is not always easy to distinguish if the problems being reported are for MKB, DS3 or for a third party controller. It would also be useful if you could let us know if you were also experiencing any performance issues with lag or poor frame rate at the same time.
Will keep you up to date.
Cheers
CCP Wolfman
DS3 is terrible
I second this. the PS3 Controller is HORRID! I feel like I am spraying and praying. If I use the right analog in any way while in aim the bullets go haywire all over the place. |
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