MD never really used SS much, firing at max range was a 5 second flight time, the only thing that doesn't move in 5 sec is a sniper and snipers above you are near unhittable (mostly). The nerf MD threads will be thick. I wonder what skills will be available for MD.

MD never really used SS much, firing at max range was a 5 second flight time, the only thing that doesn't move in 5 sec is a sniper and snipers above you are near unhittable (mostly). The nerf MD threads will be thick. I wonder what skills will be available for MD.

Well I hope your all happy with your nerf SS and AR threads, because last I heard, the Gallente AR was getting shotgun range. So once again, the nerf threads have ended up over-nerfing, the "OP" weapon until it has become obsolete. You people just won't stop until every weapon is dealing 1 damage and has 1 meter of range.

ITT: First world problems. I hope they take your damage mods next so this stops being another generic twitch gaming arcade FPS. One more week until the CoDex build is done, so you better get your last bit of enjoyment before you actually have to get kills with something other than range.

i just hope ccp keep on nerf ing the gun

more guys play the forum game then the real game

After attending fanfest I will personally not be using the gallente AR

Well I hope your all happy with your nerf SS and AR threads, because last I heard, the Gallente AR was getting shotgun range. So once again, the nerf threads have ended up over-nerfing, the "OP" weapon until it has become obsolete. You people just won't stop until every weapon is dealing 1 damage and has 1 meter of range.

I think the reduced range is due to it being a high damage blaster type weapon. New ARs will come out with longer ranges and lower damage, or some other balancing factor like rate of fire. So the merc will then have to choose if he wants short range high damage (Caldari Blaster Rifle), long range low damage (Minmatar Assault Rifle), or mid range mid damage (Amarr Scrambler rifle). This could possibly happen with several of the weapons available. We won't know till they're released.

No offense mate but you got that all wrong..

Gallente Blaster is short range, high damage - such has always been their nature.
Minmatar Combat Rifle would be a good medium at everything, with a higher emphasis on armor damage.
Amarr Scrambler Rifle would be another good medium, with a higher emphasis on shield damage.
Caldari Rail Rifle would be long range, low damage as they have always specialized in Siege Warfare, using long range Railguns with ships that have bonuses to their optimal range.

Close combat is more intimate to the player. I can't feel good about offing someone I can just barely see - but knowing that I almost died and killed them before they killed me... That's where stories are made.

The awesome stories are always the ones where the odds are stacked against you - not when you have every advantage.

The SS skill seemed to add a bit of variety to game-play. I can understand ppl hating it but the new play play-style is gonna become very monotonous very quickly. LAVs are gonna have a field day running over ppl that have to stand in open spaces in order to get closer to the enemy. Hopefully they thought this thing through.

No. It is a lasers and snipers can now get right on top of you without fear of being shot buff.

Not equal at all.

Personally I think its a good thing. An AR should not hit me from across the map, Tactical AR I can see doing it. I think a lot of people are overreacting to this, that being said we will see what happens on the 6th.

Why shouldn't an AR hit you from across the map exactly?

There is no way sustained fire can cause substantial damage at that range. Disperson/Kick/Accuracy is the safeguard there.

A well placed single shot could kill you if you are knocking on deaths door though, and it should.

Why should I have to use a tactical to make that single, situational shot, when I know for a fact I am good enough to make it with an iron sight?

Why shouldn't an AR hit you from across the map exactly?

There is no way sustained fire can cause substantial damage at that range. Disperson/Kick/Accuracy is the safeguard there.

A well placed single shot could kill you if you are knocking on deaths door though, and it should.

Why should I have to use a tactical to make that single, situational shot, when I know for a fact I am good enough to make it with an iron sight?

Remember when tactics like this were valid? Dust 514 was advertised and still is advertised as a strafe/tracking style FPS. Thanks to all the damage mod stacking, it turned into twitch gaming arcade, and with LW SS, it's a sniper fest. Shame on anyone who dares to defend LW SS.

Remember when tactics like this were valid? Dust 514 was advertised and still is advertised as a strafe/tracking style FPS. Thanks to all the damage mod stacking, it turned into twitch gaming arcade, and with LW SS, it's a sniper fest. Shame on anyone who dares to defend LW SS.

It's amazing to me that someone even made that video. So horrible... Hai guys now here is lesson #2, pull the trigger when you want to shoot at someone...

When did strafing become the thing to do in FPS? I don't remember it being a part of Goldeneye, which I have no problem admitting was my first/only experience with FPS until Uncharted 2.

I just don't get it, I thought that CCP was going for a SciFi Sim, in the case of Dust it would make me believe that it is to be a War Sim and when in war do people strafe (note I said people and not planes)?

You have to keep in mind that some people playing this game have never played an FPS before. Think of how many people actually stand still. Assuming you can actually see them when you're sniping across the map with an intended mid range, high power weapon that is...

At this point in time I doubt very much that DUST is anyones first first-person shooter. If it is I would tell you to stop playing DUST right now and go play CS, Halo, COD, BF, GR, RS, QUAKE, ARMA, TF, KZ, GUN, TS or any other of the plethora of awesome shooters out there right now that blow the doors off of DUST. Then come back and see if you are ready for a FPS that is not just a simple shooter.

Personally I think its a good thing. An AR should not hit me from across the map, Tactical AR I can see doing it. I think a lot of people are overreacting to this, that being said we will see what happens on the 6th.

Sharpshooter on HMG and Shotgun broke those two weapons against most of their best counters, until the other player also skilled into the same thing, meaning the only valid counter to SS was equal/better SS.

Sharpshooter on ARs basically allowed them to negate the primary advantage of Snipers. Same goes for Lasers. Some Ambush maps are small enough that lvl 3 SS is almost enough to fire across the map with mid-range weapons.

There have been plenty of threads targeting weapons specifically for "SS breaks this weapon" or "this weapon breaks SS" or "this weapon is OP" with the explanation basically boiling down to one of the first 2.