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Delirium Inferno
Chernova Industries
88
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Posted - 2013.04.06 05:12:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:gallente assault OP, if it has comparable shields to caldari assault the -5% CPU/PG reduction to weaponry is ridiculous, much better than 2% faster reloading It's almost like CCP doesn't realize 2% of 2 seconds is 40 milliseconds, or - assuming the games runs at 30 fps - about 1 frame.
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crazy space 1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
987
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Posted - 2013.04.06 05:26:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote:King Kobrah wrote:gallente assault OP, if it has comparable shields to caldari assault the -5% CPU/PG reduction to weaponry is ridiculous, much better than 2% faster reloading It's almost like CCP doesn't realize 2% of 2 seconds is 40 milliseconds, or - assuming the games runs at 30 fps - about 1 frame.
That's a total of 10% on top of the 40% you can get on a weapon. Giving you a 50% reduction in reload time.
Not every weapon has a low reload time. The bonus could be increased a little considering how each weapon has it's own reload skill... which is still like what? but anyways, don't under estimate reload time. |
crazy space 1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
987
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Posted - 2013.04.06 05:28:00 -
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SGT Garrisson wrote:dont like the bonus on the amarr assault suit
with the current state of laser rifles doing same amount of damage to armor as the do to shields this suit will push the LR to the very very op catagory
go on some one say it im QQing but its true ive used them the damage is currently equal even tho the info popup on the target says different Are you forgetting there will be lots of weapons that use heat? There will be a laser sniper...a laser blaster, the current laser... |
Adewale Gbaski
The Tritan Industries
0
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Posted - 2013.04.06 06:34:00 -
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So what are the race benefits for logistics? |
Delirium Inferno
Chernova Industries
88
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Posted - 2013.04.06 06:40:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:Delirium Inferno wrote:King Kobrah wrote:gallente assault OP, if it has comparable shields to caldari assault the -5% CPU/PG reduction to weaponry is ridiculous, much better than 2% faster reloading It's almost like CCP doesn't realize 2% of 2 seconds is 40 milliseconds, or - assuming the games runs at 30 fps - about 1 frame. That's a total of 10% on top of the 40% you can get on a weapon. Giving you a 50% reduction in reload time. Not every weapon has a low reload time. The bonus could be increased a little considering how each weapon has it's own reload skill... which is still like what? but anyways, don't under estimate reload time. Where does the 40% come from?
And regardless, I'm not saying that reload time is bad, it can be good when sufficient enough. But if we're just talking about these suits and what bonuses you had, 10% is still only 1/5th of a second on a standard assault rifle, or 6 frames. Yeah stacked on that 40% it makes it 50% which would be quite noticeable, but would you rather have that reduction of 6 frames for reload or a 25% reduction in hybrid weapon CPU/PG?
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crazy space 1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
987
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Posted - 2013.04.06 06:53:00 -
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Adewale Gbaski wrote:So what are the race benefits for logistics?
passive +5 armor regen and then each race has something different as the second bonus |
crazy space 1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
987
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Posted - 2013.04.06 06:55:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:Delirium Inferno wrote:King Kobrah wrote:gallente assault OP, if it has comparable shields to caldari assault the -5% CPU/PG reduction to weaponry is ridiculous, much better than 2% faster reloading It's almost like CCP doesn't realize 2% of 2 seconds is 40 milliseconds, or - assuming the games runs at 30 fps - about 1 frame. That's a total of 10% on top of the 40% you can get on a weapon. Giving you a 50% reduction in reload time. Not every weapon has a low reload time. The bonus could be increased a little considering how each weapon has it's own reload skill... which is still like what? but anyways, don't under estimate reload time. Where does the 40% come from? And regardless, I'm not saying that reload time is bad, it can be good when sufficient enough. But if we're just talking about these suits and what bonuses you had, 10% is still only 1/5th of a second on a standard assault rifle, or 6 frames. Yeah stacked on that 40% it makes it 50% which would be quite noticeable, but would you rather have that reduction of 6 frames for reload or a 25% reduction in hybrid weapon CPU/PG?
True, I guess we'll have too see what kind of fittings everything has.
also I didn't log in to check I thought it was like 5% faster reload per level and then 3% per level... so 25+15%+10%?
maybe it should be increased to 3% per level for the suit bonus, but I will make up my mind when may 6th rolls around |
Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
107
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Posted - 2013.04.06 06:56:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:Delirium Inferno wrote:King Kobrah wrote:gallente assault OP, if it has comparable shields to caldari assault the -5% CPU/PG reduction to weaponry is ridiculous, much better than 2% faster reloading It's almost like CCP doesn't realize 2% of 2 seconds is 40 milliseconds, or - assuming the games runs at 30 fps - about 1 frame. That's a total of 10% on top of the 40% you can get on a weapon. Giving you a 50% reduction in reload time. Not every weapon has a low reload time. The bonus could be increased a little considering how each weapon has it's own reload skill... which is still like what? but anyways, don't under estimate reload time. Where does the 40% come from? And regardless, I'm not saying that reload time is bad, it can be good when sufficient enough. But if we're just talking about these suits and what bonuses you had, 10% is still only 1/5th of a second on a standard assault rifle, or 6 frames. Yeah stacked on that 40% it makes it 50% which would be quite noticeable, but would you rather have that reduction of 6 frames for reload or a 25% reduction in hybrid weapon CPU/PG?
reload. those six frames are frames I'm shooting you that you're reloading. and if it really does stack to 50% the caldari suit will have an advantage in prolonged firefights due to that reload speed. More bullets downrange means more dead hostiles. |
crazy space 1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
987
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Posted - 2013.04.06 06:59:00 -
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whats the longest reload light weapon at the moment? mass driver? |
Delirium Inferno
Chernova Industries
88
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Posted - 2013.04.06 07:05:00 -
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Someone with access to the damage numbers and fire rates, how much damage could someone do with your typical assault rifle in 1/5th of a second? |
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Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
107
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Posted - 2013.04.06 07:18:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote:Someone with access to the damage numbers and fire rates, how much damage could someone do with your typical assault rifle in 1/5th of a second?
I use a pistol. specifically a standard breach(one more upgrade and i get advanced level breaches) so... 115 with no points in weaponry(mine's maxed), and not counting my two complex mods, and not getting a headshot. |
Rhadiem
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
497
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Posted - 2013.04.06 07:59:00 -
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After months away, happy to see Assault Dropships added to the new patch. Definitely enticing to see all the new skills and I assume all the new items off those skills coming soon. Good job CCP |
Martin0 Brancaleone
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
214
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Posted - 2013.04.06 08:03:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:Delirium Inferno wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:Delirium Inferno wrote:King Kobrah wrote:gallente assault OP, if it has comparable shields to caldari assault the -5% CPU/PG reduction to weaponry is ridiculous, much better than 2% faster reloading It's almost like CCP doesn't realize 2% of 2 seconds is 40 milliseconds, or - assuming the games runs at 30 fps - about 1 frame. That's a total of 10% on top of the 40% you can get on a weapon. Giving you a 50% reduction in reload time. Not every weapon has a low reload time. The bonus could be increased a little considering how each weapon has it's own reload skill... which is still like what? but anyways, don't under estimate reload time. Where does the 40% come from? And regardless, I'm not saying that reload time is bad, it can be good when sufficient enough. But if we're just talking about these suits and what bonuses you had, 10% is still only 1/5th of a second on a standard assault rifle, or 6 frames. Yeah stacked on that 40% it makes it 50% which would be quite noticeable, but would you rather have that reduction of 6 frames for reload or a 25% reduction in hybrid weapon CPU/PG? True, I guess we'll have too see what kind of fittings everything has. also I didn't log in to check I thought it was like 5% faster reload per level and then 3% per level... so 25+15%+10%? maybe it should be increased to 3% per level for the suit bonus, but I will make up my mind when may 6th rolls around
Skills doesent sum. They multiply. 1.25 x 1.15 x 1.1 = 1.58 You get a 58% bonus to reload speed. Thats a lot. |
Delirium Inferno
Chernova Industries
88
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Posted - 2013.04.06 08:35:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:Delirium Inferno wrote:Someone with access to the damage numbers and fire rates, how much damage could someone do with your typical assault rifle in 1/5th of a second? I use a pistol. specifically a standard breach(one more upgrade and i get advanced level breaches) so... 115 with no points in weaponry(mine's maxed), and not counting my two complex mods, and not getting a headshot. Oh come on, I could of said I use a forge gun so you are dead regardless of what you are wearing. Of course one of those bullets could of happened to hit during the 6 frames, but what's the pistol's rate of fire? How much time passes between shots? Less than 1/5th of a second? |
Takahiro Kashuken
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
190
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Posted - 2013.04.06 10:00:00 -
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Do we know if they changed the training mulitpliers on any of the skills since they streamlined em
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The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
67
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Posted - 2013.04.06 10:22:00 -
[196] - Quote
"Ah, my ridiculously circuitous plan is one-quarter complete. " The Robot Devil |
lordjanuz
Norwegian Dust514 Corporation
101
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Posted - 2013.04.06 11:10:00 -
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When Assault DS shows on Sisi is it likely to belive we get it on 6th may? |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1275
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Posted - 2013.04.06 11:48:00 -
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Anyony knows if sisi is up ? |
Corbina Ninja
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
111
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Posted - 2013.04.06 12:24:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:Anyony knows if sisi is up ?
sisi is up |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1275
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Posted - 2013.04.06 12:50:00 -
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yeah just logged in.
too bad everything is gone. You can still find skills by doing a research but no information can be displayed.
Damn, wanted to see scout and heavies bonuses. :'( |
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J-Lewis
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.04.06 16:01:00 -
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It's all there, you just need to un-tick the "show only available" box in the market window. You'll find it under Infantry Gear. |
Cat Merc
OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT
415
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Posted - 2013.04.06 17:13:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote:Delirium Inferno wrote:Someone with access to the damage numbers and fire rates, how much damage could someone do with your typical assault rifle in 1/5th of a second? I use a pistol. specifically a standard breach(one more upgrade and i get advanced level breaches) so... 115 with no points in weaponry(mine's maxed), and not counting my two complex mods, and not getting a headshot. Oh come on, I could of said I use a forge gun so you are dead regardless of what you are wearing. Of course one of those bullets could of happened to hit during the 6 frames, but what's the pistol's rate of fire? How much time passes between shots? Less than 1/5th of a second? Martin0 Brancaleone wrote: Skills doesent sum. They multiply. 1.25 x 1.15 x 1.1 = 1.58 You get a 58% bonus to reload speed. Thats a lot.
Already responded to someone with a similar argument a few posts up. Yes the summation of all reload reductions is nice, but when you single it out it is still only 1/5th of a second on a standard AR. I can wear a suit with better bonuses and still get all those other reload bonuses, I'd only be at a 1/5th of a second disadvantage. I know this is a shooter and every moment counts but that is pretty negligible. Also didn't someone confirm that they add and not multiply? An AR will put out 2.5 bullets in that time. If we're talking about Exile AR, that's 78.5 damage, not including damage skills and possible damage mods.
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Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
109
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Posted - 2013.04.06 19:40:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote: Oh come on, I could of said I use a forge gun so you are dead regardless of what you are wearing. Of course one of those bullets could of happened to hit during the 6 frames, but what's the pistol's rate of fire? How much time passes between shots? Less than 1/5th of a second?
actually forge guns need to charge for that 5th of a second. so I still shoot you twice with my slow little breach pistol and drop your heavy arse before you can fire your forge(forge users can't dance to avoid a headshot, and heavies have heads too big to miss) |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
1919
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Posted - 2013.04.06 19:42:00 -
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Eleven pages and no response from the Devs? Come on, Devs. Can you at least try to troll us? |
Cat Merc
OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT
420
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Posted - 2013.04.06 19:52:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Eleven pages and no response from the Devs? Come on, Devs. Can you at least try to troll us? FoxFour wake up call? |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
2956
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Posted - 2013.04.06 20:10:00 -
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You guys do realize it's the weekend right? You know, that time where some people (especially those who sit in front of computers all week) go and hang out with friends? Off the computer? |
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Casius Hakoke
Fenrir's Wolves
50
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Posted - 2013.04.06 20:11:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:You guys do realize it's the weekend right? You know, that time where some people (especially those who sit in front of computers all week) go and hang out with friends? Off the computer?
Yay dev post. |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
2956
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Posted - 2013.04.06 20:14:00 -
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Plus, you guys seem to be answering each others questions. What the hell am I needed for? |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
2956
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Posted - 2013.04.06 20:15:00 -
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HAHAHAHA Epic fail. See this is why I don't post in this condition. I thought this was the thread about planetary conquest dev blog, not skills and such. I have no comment on any of that nonsense aside from:
MAGIC CRYSTAL BALL PEOPLE!
p.s. this is what happens when you respond to a forum thread someone links you without reading the thread or thread title... |
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
1064
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Posted - 2013.04.06 20:16:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Plus, you guys seem to be answering each others questions. What the hell am I needed for? We're guessing, if you answer a question we can take it as official info and will make assumptions based on it, also if you're wrong we can screenshot it and bash you with it later |
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