Damn i think he just flexed his pimp hand.

There are 2 types of people in this world. People who get **** done and people like you who make excuses why they can't. I may be an ******* and fire starter but I get **** done and done right.

I put my time in effort into to ccp and this game just be to be told that they dont have to listen to us. **** that and excuse spouting fanbois like yourself. It's been almost a year and this game is ****. Go read Nova Knifes thread about the same damn thing.

You keep telling us we won't listen when you actually mean we wont agree with you. Only a hard headed hypocrate would say such a thing. I have the same problem with my 15 year on niece which is telling.

So go on being a mad bro but stop telling people to shut up when they are voicing their discord with CCP.

Dude, I am not telling you guys to shut up, I am telling you to listen. Rome was not built in a day, neither was vertical new york. Both had concrete, one of the two cities had to reinvent it because everyone forgot how to make it after rome fell. Burning of Constantenople was one of the bigger excuses of the dark age.

Movies, wars, cities, contracts, subcontracts, they all take time and when you like it or not the excuse of not yet feasibly, fiscally, technologically or physically possible will always get in your damn way of wanting what you want.

You can't get to mars in an hour, You can't get to beta cyngus in a day, and you may get mad at me all day long about my excuses as to why, and no amount of your fire starting is going to fix that yesterday. Maybe in a hundred years, thosand who knows but as it stands today its still being worked on, its being worked on by people who love the game very much and would like every chance for it to succedde, its being worked on by people who are taking thier work home and working on it, doing work on during the vacation. Maybe they're running into problems, maybe they're making unreal engine 3 do things it was not designed to do, who knows? CCP does and they're more focused on fixing those issues than to talk with us.

I would say its unfourtunate they have so few community developers that are not being barrowed by marketing deparment but that's the breaks when you're making a game that doesnt have a need for a community dev yet. You have very few people its best to use all of thier time making the game than to delay a game another month because you have them reading forum posts.

Iron Wolf,

You do realise, as the OP has previously stated. We are more than a year into development and this game is no better than a basic FPS shooter with multiple network/software issues.

ONE YEAR IN BETA (that should stand out). How can you defend this? If this was any other company, do you think the people in charge would still be in charge? Probably not, this same issue has happened at large development companies and "creative differences" were cited and the person moved to a different area.

Am I calling for heads... nope. But you'd think after YEARS of development this game would have progressed faster.

While CCP has made some baffling decisions regarding the order in which they implement the game's features and almost certainly started bringing us beta players into the fold too early, Dust is probably a particularly challenging bit of software to develop. It's not like Bungie ever had to worry about balancing intricate RPG elements or accidentally breaking a ten year old MMO while making Halo.

Also, has everyone forgotten how fundamentally broken the previous builds were? I haven't had a hard lock, invalid fitting bug, or bout of crippling lag in quite a while.

The build is stale. You're extra bored with it due to the SP grind. Calm down.

hit detection sucks
infinite drop-suit loading bug
internal errors
blue shields
lag
lag
lag
lag

Is PS4 coming out next month? Last I checked, it was holiday season of 2013, lots of time. Not to mention that CCP stated their planned release date for summer 2013.

Also, I've mentioned in a previous post, which you've probably missed anyway, that Dust 514 is going to be on PS4. Please don't ever forget that.

Dude, I am not telling you guys to shut up, I am telling you to listen. Rome was not built in a day, neither was vertical new york. Both had concrete, one of the two cities had to reinvent it because everyone forgot how to make it after rome fell. Burning of Constantenople was one of the bigger excuses of the dark age.

Movies, wars, cities, contracts, subcontracts, they all take time and when you like it or not the excuse of not yet feasibly, fiscally, technologically or physically possible will always get in your damn way of wanting what you want.

You can't get to mars in an hour, You can't get to beta cyngus in a day, and you may get mad at me all day long about my excuses as to why, and no amount of your fire starting is going to fix that yesterday. Maybe in a hundred years, thosand who knows but as it stands today its still being worked on, its being worked on by people who love the game very much and would like every chance for it to succedde, its being worked on by people who are taking thier work home and working on it, doing work on during the vacation. Maybe they're running into problems, maybe they're making unreal engine 3 do things it was not designed to do, who knows? CCP does and they're more focused on fixing those issues than to talk with us.

I would say its unfourtunate they have so few community developers that are not being barrowed by marketing deparment but that's the breaks when you're making a game that doesnt have a need for a community dev yet. You have very few people its best to use all of thier time making the game than to delay a game another month because you have them reading forum posts.

I will say I am full agreement ccp needs to talk with us more. However I am asking you all to understand they're working on the game and information pipeline. Its not like they're playing golf in shanghai (which begs the question is there a golf course there? I didn't remember one on my last trip there) but at least they are very hard at work there.

I will say that Dust 514 is not the worst offender when it comes to Beta Testing and progress that is taking forever to get anywhere.

Behold! First MMO to go BACK INTO BETA after commercial launch!

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/

i can understand that, but....think about the guys that hasn't played dust, now think about the guys that are about to quit playing.
do you think they are going to care for what your post means? i mean no harm by this statement but outside of these forums are a larger crowd. they will not see Dust the way we(you) see it.

i just want CCP to involve us more so we have an incentive to stay, instead of trying to hold on to that belief "Dust will be the greatest game so just wait awhile"

That the most I can say to them right now as a fellow beta tester, 'come back in 6 months'. Console players really don't have the patience, that's a given. Right now the CSM minutes have been updated with dust 514 section in it, expansion cycles are now every 3 months which places the uprising expansion to mid march give or take.

Remember this?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hat4psYcvII

We are no where near this.........this trailer is what got me into this game....

CCP states things and some of them never happen. CCP is about 3-5 months off schedule with dust. we were already supposed to have e-sports support i believe. im not making this post only on behalf of myself. i think this issue involves everyone and the life expectancy of dust.
show me where and when CCP said dust will be on the ps4.

I Have to agree with the OP,

i have played EVE for almost 4 years now,

back when the 1st mentions of the sign up for closed testing came to my email box i signed up quick. this was when it was only weekend play, i played a bit just to see what it was like. then left to just go back to EVE until it was open beta... and now that it is i agree the game is getting stale for me, i see not alot changing, just seems that everything is in "limbo" i like dust a lot it could be great, i am not sure what the problems are but to be honest as of now i play untill i hit the sp cap for the week, then i drop it like a bad habit untill reset on wed morning... there i said it it's true once i get skill capped i loose all interest? is this wrong? i dunno it's sad but true i was once captivated but now i'm sorry to say i am loosing it, i know ill be flamed and trolled.... bye! see ya we won't miss ya.... but i just kinda see things going nowhere fast? lots of stuff is unbalanced....wont say what because then i will get flamed and trolled for sure..... but agree we need to pass the ball to CCP and they need to make a 3 pointer.... time to get this ball rolling.

no you wont get flamed by many because most of the people in this thread might agree with you. we all lose interest in playing after we hit the cap. if it wasnt for the sp a lot of us wouldnt even be playing dust.

Sorry that I can't dig through tons of interviews and videos to scour for that line, but Devs have confirmed it during the Fanfest already that there will be PS4 version of Dust, it has to be in some of the keynotes and interviews.

Moreover, I don't remember CCP actually promising to release Dust out of beta in the late 2012. Like someone mentioned here before, it was a Sony's mistake, when they were advertising it as an almost finished product.

Can you stop blaming the players for a God Damned Second. You can't see a damn thing with your head so far up CCPs ass right now

Why is it never CCPs fault? Why did it take 5 months to fix invalid bug? Why do they "fix" things and it end us destorying them? Missile turrets needed balance and they ruined them. CCP is just like you they want us to listen and be patient about stuff well its been a year and this game is ****.

Lets go down the list of stuff ccp has given us over the last year and still have.

Frame rate stutter
lag (I have a high speed business class pipe and 1 out of 3 games i can really feel the lag)
blue ******* sheilds
spawming (why would anyone really use aurum gear when they could lose it first spawn of the game?)
inventory bugs
disconnects
UVT issues
go and search for a corp and get dc'd
coms bugs (this is great when you switch to team chat to play a corp battle and 3 people have lost coms or get dc'd)
Inventory issues
Restocking issues
infinite spinning wheel bug (so many things causes this)
No alliance chat or functionality for dust side
No market
passive sp bug

head ******* glitching (6 months later is considered a technical issue by ccp when we told them to fix it last summer)
heavies that stick their gun into a wall and half the bullets still hit me.

laser skill are fk'd up and need looking at

map for ***** sake maps are bad. We asked for more maps and more infantry specific sockets so tanks/ds couldn't rule the day. We got smaller maps and the same maps. Whose ever idea that was a ccp should be fired for shear stupidity.

corp battles are lame

The only connecction to eve we have with game play is just an exploitable no value proposition.

So don't tell me to be patient any more ironwolf because after a year this is all the **** we got.