So no one is playing it right now??

ITT: butthurt entitled manbabies who imagine that they are owed something from an ongoing beta test.
I'm going to assume most of you shitlords in this thread haven't played eve and don't understand ccp's development schedule. I've no doubt that somewhere in Shanghai there is an Icelandic slave driver whipping Chinese code monkeys to work faster for the sake of your dreadfully short attention spans.
Maybe you would be better off playing some of the innovative AAA titles from EA or Activision, call of battlefield 13 black cocksexplode. Possibly tied into a 84oz drink bucket or extreme combo meal.

I'll wait and play a free game with more potential and be understanding if they take a bit longer than expected to make something work.

... Sounds like a beta. Does not sound like complete game you make it out to be, it also sounds like you need to take a 6 month break.

As for the invalid bug... its back but it has mutated into a odd form where it only invalidates half of the fittings available.

at this rate you and only you will be playing Dust when they actually make it work.

hit detection sucks
infinite drop-suit loading bug
internal errors
blue shields
lag
lag
lag
lag

...and this is exactly why I don't want any new features until core gameplay shines. More new features for players to moan about and drama over and be a general resource drain on the developers is not what DUST needs.

DUST needs to become a fps first, rather than the functional-but-frankensteinian patchwork of components it is now. All else is cart-before-the-horse fail waiting to happen.

As far as i'm concerned CCP's focus is the correct one - more features right now is poison. Ofc, i know the case i'm trying to make here is hopeless, and they're prolly gonna buckle to all this wailing and do the wrong thing. I just hope they don't buckle too much.

P.S. - If Bungie ever seriously contemplated tackling the engineering, design and coding project that CCP has taken on, after a bit of study and reflection, i am sure they would run away screaming. Is Destiny going to be single shard?

i know no one is twisting my arm, i WANT to stay. can't say the same for everyone else who isn't on these forums tho.
Subdreddit...aren't you guys from eve? maybe you wouldn't understand the state Dust is in right now since its a ps3 tittle and you're in OUR community. please correct me if i'm wrong tho

stopped reading right there, this is not a released game ffs

So no one is playing it right now??

Overall, I'm not sure I agree with the OP, but I think his sentiment is completely valid. It would help not only the image of the game, but the player retention, for the devs to be more communicative. I think it would also help for the devs to focus on some amount of "flash" for each update. We've seen measurable progress with each build, and in terms of balance and feel it seems to have come quite a way. But in terms of fun, it really hasn't improved much at all. I don't think I have much more fun with it now than I did back in July. The only feature I can think that was added since then to contribute to the "fun" factor was the laser rifle. (Someone correct me on that.)

They're a comparatively small developer taking on a completely new development experience, and all at once they're learning how to run development for a console, for a twitch-based action game, for a first-person shooter, for a balanced team-vs.-team arena, etc., for the first time. I can appreciate how challenging this is. I can also appreciate the potential it has to be completely groundbreaking as a result. But they have lessons to learn, not just about what they're developing, but about how to interact with the community in ways that are both similar to and different from the way they interact with the EVE community. (Even granted that there are substantial overlaps.)

I think they know they need to be more communicative. What they may not know is that they also need to keep adding shiny stuff on a regular basis. EVE players seem to keep asking for fixes to existing mechanics above new features, so the idea that players might be more interested in new features than in fixes might be unexpected.

I just have one more point to add: NoVa, you often talk about "what the community thinks" as if the community were coherent enough to offer even a majority opinion, let alone a consensus. And even a consensus won't always be the best alternative. Most of the time, the devs are going to have to work out what seems to work best in the context of the game.

Sounds like a beta. Does not sound like complete game you make it out to be, it also sounds like you need to take a 6 month break.

As for the invalid bug... its back but it has mutated into a odd form where it only invalidates half of the fittings available.

The game has been in beta for an unusually long time, and while there have been improvements, it seems as if they break something with every fix.

Weapon balance is still off after how many builds? The most common method of CCP to 'balance' something that only needs a tweak is to completely nerf it into uselessness (example: Missiles, all kinds).

Maps still have terrain glitches, one map in particular generates terrible framerate about half the time you play it, ambush still has atrocious spawns. These are all things that could have or should have been fixed by now, after all this time.

And in terms of communication, it's always been lackluster - for as long as I've been on the forums here, threads continually get brought up where people are feeling left in the dark.

Maps? I mean how long are we going to keep playing the same maps just recycled or updated a slight bit? Stating some overly ambitious intent of 1000's of procedurally generated maps and then only delivering a grand total of like what, 5 (some with recurring elements and shoddy design) doesn't really live up to the hype or come anywhere close.

And as has been said before, the only reason why a lot of people are even bothering to play it right now is due to SP.

I've no doubt that somewhere in Shanghai there is an Icelandic slave driver whipping Chinese code monkeys to work faster for the sake of your dreadfully short attention spans.

No one is twisting your arm. Have patience or go find something else to do

and this is exactly why I don't want any new features until core gameplay shines. More new features for players to moan about and drama over and be a general resource drain on the developers is not what DUST needs.

DUST needs to become a fps first, rather than the functional-but-frankensteinian patchwork of components it is now. All else is cart-before-the-horse fail waiting to happen.

comes after release

By now i'm sure everyone has heard the news of the Playstation 4. With all of those new games we saw at their conference one can only be excited for this coming holiday season. This could also be a dangerous threat to DUST.

It has been almost a year since Dust has been out, and to tell you the truth....It hasn't really improved at all. Lets think about this, i understand it has come a long way and the gameplay has gotten better since the early days. BUT, if you think about Dust as a game it really hasn't made any improvements.

The way i think of it is, CCP has spent the last year doing what? Balancing weapons, balancing vehicles, balancing suits, etc. We have been playing for this long and we have only been able to play.....hmmm....7-10 maps? for a game that talks about 1000+ maps that number is very small. It seems as tho Dust is JUST now beginning to mimic what a FPS is supposed to be. But this seems only recent.

It's time for CCP to pull up their pants. It's time for CCP to get more involved with this community. It's time for us to test things as such as FW and PvE. This stuff NEEDS to come sooner than later. These two things alone will be the key to Dust surviving for years to come. Hell even a roll out of 20 more maps will help keep us satisfied till FW and PvE are implemented. Also, the old skirmish HAS to come back. PERIOD. CCP we need you guys to quit keeping secretes from us all the time. For example, we dont know when and what is going to be in this next big patch. Should i be saving my SP for a new weapon, dropsuit, or vehicle?
I understand that you guys can do what ever you want but in order for this game to survive, ESPECIALLY since PS4 and possible Xbox 720 will be release this holiday, you NEED to keep us as close as possible with more and more info about whats is going on.

You post weekly updates sure, but these things only tell us which issues you are working on. They don't tell us such things as, if it has been fix, and what ideals do you guys have for fixing it. This is a time where we are about to user in a new era with next gen gaming, we should user in a next-gen community as well. Dust 514 should be backed by a seamless connection from DeVs and players.


How does everyone else feel on this? Do you think that you will be more interested in DUST 514 if CCP started releasing more info on whats to come and when? What if we could start a community voting process so we could vote on things we want implemented first? How about CCP telling us more details about what their doing to weapons, suits, and vehicles BEFORE they actually implement these fixes in? For example, CCP has stated that the heavy suit is being changed...to what? what if we dont like the change? If they told us about their ideals first dont you think we as a community can decide on if we think that fix will work?


Last point,
If CCP decides to change something and doesn't tell us, it breeds frustrations to many players if what ever they did doesn't work right. If we had some say so on what the fix should be before it is implemented it doesn't work i believe it puts the blame on us a community not the DEVs. I think this would help eliminate some of the hate towards CCP and make many more players want to get on the forums and state their opinions.

Remember this?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hat4psYcvII

We are no where near this.........this trailer is what got me into this game....

No i think i "get" your community, and i look down my pc gamer master race nose at the unwashed hoard of instant gratification seeking aspies who would rather have it now than have it good. I've played eve since April 04 and have been waiting years for dust. It bothers me not one iota to continue waiting for a game that will at last help change sovereignty mechanics in eve. That's what they are trying to make. A game where your actions matter to the games of hundreds if not thousands of other people.
Like it or not you're in the eve community now not the ps3 home space.
Subdreddit like Dreddit is a corporation based in the reddit mother forum. So no we're not an eve corp though we are in test alliance please ignore.

If you cant wait for ccp to get the core of the game done properly then maybe you should take a break and come back in 3 months, or not.

Fake ninja edit: this is less of a white knight for ccp and more of a will you complaining shitlords shut up already post

If you cant wait for ccp to get the core of the game done properly then maybe you should take a break and come back in 3 months, or not.

WELLCOME TO NEW EDEN


now F*** off !

words

1. Dust is an add on and I hope it's successful.
2. Console players are joining a 10 year old eve community platform is irrelevant.
3. The new player churn will keep dust going even if everyone playing right now quits. None of us is a special snowflake, we are all cogs in the machine. That being said the ability for the cogs to decide what that machine does on a collective level will be what keeps people.

CCP has spent a year trying to become an FPS first, if you haven't noticed, they are still trying. Most of us "get the FPS right" guys haved moved on to "give us more content" because we have become accustomed to bad hit detection etc.

do you not realize the community your in? i understand Dust is connected to Eve, but many eve players dont give a S*** for dust. plus this is a community of PS3 gamers, if they are not satisfied they will move on. especially if the PS4 is coming out this year. please understand that i too want this game to be its best, if that means them having to stop for PS3 and develop for PS4 then so be it. also if you haven't noticed, many of this forum guys AND many of the newer players in Dust dont care for Corps. FW is really whats supposed to keep dust alive and if people dont care for corps how will Dust survive? we dont even have a clue on how any of that stuff works yet. the longer they wait, the closer PS4 comes

listen....this thread is about DUST. im not asking for them to finish the game before the PS4 comes out. what i want, and im pretty sure most of these guy do too, is for CCP to stop wasting their time with such things as "matchmaking" etc.
I want them to tell me exactly what their working on right now so we can figure out where dust is heading in the next 2-3 months. i want them to talk to us more about certain fixes before they implement them. wouldn't you want to hear possible fixes on the heavy suits and weapon and have a community discussion? doing this will allow them to gather our feedback while they focus on other things. all i want is for them to make us feel important somehow so it lets all of us know "hey these guys really care about us and together we will make this game better". if they make us feel that way i guarantee we will be more excited about this game and want to play even longer.

right now it just feels that dust has entered into a partial stable state since it has been out for a year. we dont know whats next and whats already fixed and what we should be working towards. all we know is that next-gen is on its way and CCP hasnt engaged us about anything for awhile

He is right we need to post more feed backs more ore moreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

The community I'm is isn't the same community you or most dust bunnies are in. You can say all you want that it's a ps3 group but it also contains bitter eve vets and the culture we bring and herein lies our advantage; we get CCP. We understand the SOON(tm). I realize that you don't give 2 ***** about corps, your loss. That's end game. It's what this is all about, big picture.

listen....this thread is about DUST. im not asking for them to finish the game before the PS4 comes out. what i want, and im pretty sure most of these guy do too, is for CCP to stop wasting their time with such things as "matchmaking" etc.
I want them to tell me exactly what their working on right now so we can figure out where dust is heading in the next 2-3 months. i want them to talk to us more about certain fixes before they implement them. wouldn't you want to hear possible fixes on the heavy suits and weapon and have a community discussion? doing this will allow them to gather our feedback while they focus on other things. all i want is for them to make us feel important somehow so it lets all of us know "hey these guys really care about us and together we will make this game better". if they make us feel that way i guarantee we will be more excited about this game and want to play even longer.

right now it just feels that dust has entered into a partial stable state since it has been out for a year. we dont know whats next and whats already fixed and what we should be working towards. all we know is that next-gen is on its way and CCP hasnt engaged us about anything for awhile