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GoD-NoVa
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.22 02:08:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Doc Kok wrote: Bullshit they owe me a good game
I agree, but whether they produce a good game, or not, effects them more than it does you/us. If CCP fails, then CCP fails, we'll just move on and play something else.
thats the point! i dont want that to happen, which is why i made this post hoping CCP will read and start understanding how important it is to keep us close to them |
The Loathing
The Southern Legion
21
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Posted - 2013.02.22 02:12:00 -
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Beta form or not, THIS GAME HAS BEEN RELEASED. Open Beta with purchasable options and a promise of no stat wipe is a RELEASED product!
NoVa makes a very good point in his OP. Stiff competition is coming CCP's way and Planetside 2 is already a far more polished option for those who are disappointed by Dust thus far.
I have no intention on leaving Dust any time soon, but I can't disagree that the current state of matchmaking and Corp Battles is breeding boredom. And not even a hint of something new has been dropped on the forums by CCP lately. The "starter" pack can't be counted because it provides nothing meaningful or new. CCP may not lose me as customer just yet, but you can't blame those who are giving up because there is little to keep players interested right now. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
244
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Posted - 2013.02.22 02:17:00 -
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GoD-NoVa wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Doc Kok wrote: Bullshit they owe me a good game
I agree, but whether they produce a good game, or not, effects them more than it does you/us. If CCP fails, then CCP fails, we'll just move on and play something else. thats the point! i dont want that to happen, which is why i made this post hoping CCP will read and start understanding how important it is to keep us close to them And I agree with you. |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
330
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Posted - 2013.02.22 02:24:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Doc Kok wrote: Bullshit they owe me a good game
I agree, but whether they produce a good game, or not, effects them more than it does you/us. If CCP fails, then CCP fails, we'll just move on and play something else.
Will you just get the hell out of this thread? You sound moronic and you're not contributing anything meaningful with your posts. This game has been released and people are playing it, yes we are here to test but what have we been testing this entire time. Weapon and Item balance? A few bugs here and there? It's time to move forward.
I agree with the OP 100%, CCP needs to get it together, I have not been playing this game for more than 2 months but over these 2 months I've stuck with the game with only the motivation of knowing something better was soon to come. I was told a plethora of additions and expansions were going to turn this Standard FPS with an innovative SP system, into a game where I could explore, discover, trade, meet new people, and make a difference in the world around me. I have seen none of that as of yet and I am getting weary of waiting. I consider myself to be very patient, now imagine half the people that play this game who don't even have a quarter of the patience the rest of here do.
This windling patience and growing frustration could always be satisfied by simply keeping the player base updated of things to come as they progress in it's development. CCP has decided to be very uptight with information and have only thrown us small bones to feed off of in very subtle ways. This needs to change. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2013.02.22 02:26:00 -
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GoD-NoVa wrote:Anndy Dusty wrote:clearly many people dont understand what beta means i have a clear understanding on what "beta" means. unlike YOU i have been playing this "beta" for 8-9 months and we have gotten no where in terms of what sets Dust apart from every other shooter. besides the fact that we now have eve-OBs. what im trying to say im my OP is since the PS4 and next-gen gaming is approaching faster than expected, its about time this "beta" starts picking up the pace before we all leave to play a game that will work of a PS4 even before Dust comes out of open "beta" One thing at a time. Everyone wants amazing graphics, huge battles, etc. However, most people don't seem to realize that the game needs to be stable for that to be possible. |
ImperfectFan514
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
51
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Posted - 2013.02.22 02:27:00 -
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I've been here for a year. This game hasn't made any noticeable improvements and have gotten much worse in many ways. |
Vin Vicious
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2013.02.22 02:28:00 -
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i wish people would stop posting threads like this, Fanfest is about a month away, dev teams are most likely working on their presentations. |
The Loathing
The Southern Legion
21
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Posted - 2013.02.22 02:31:00 -
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Remember this?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hat4psYcvII
We are no where near this.........this trailer is what got me into this game.... |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.02.22 02:33:00 -
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IRuby Heart wrote:I've been here for 2 months, I have the patience of a starving cat
Cool story bro?
Anyway, I'm hoping we'll get an update soon, not SoonGäó, since the Devs vacation time is finally over. |
GoD-NoVa
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
174
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Posted - 2013.02.22 02:40:00 -
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Vin Vicious wrote:i wish people would stop posting threads like this, Fanfest is about a month away, dev teams are most likely working on their presentations.
i don't give a dam if fanfest is a month away, do you think that most of the people that play this game care too? most of the players dont even know what eve is and many more dont even know what Dust is. CCP needs to think "how can we get people to WANT to play dust"
i will continue to post threads like this because i care about this game and it seems that most of the people who post in this thread also feels the same |
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GoD-NoVa
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
174
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Posted - 2013.02.22 02:44:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:GoD-NoVa wrote:Anndy Dusty wrote:clearly many people dont understand what beta means i have a clear understanding on what "beta" means. unlike YOU i have been playing this "beta" for 8-9 months and we have gotten no where in terms of what sets Dust apart from every other shooter. besides the fact that we now have eve-OBs. what im trying to say im my OP is since the PS4 and next-gen gaming is approaching faster than expected, its about time this "beta" starts picking up the pace before we all leave to play a game that will work of a PS4 even before Dust comes out of open "beta" One thing at a time. Everyone wants amazing graphics, huge battles, etc. However, most people don't seem to realize that the game needs to be stable for that to be possible.
i think the graphics in dust are great, really. i dont want huge battles, 24v24 is more than enough for me. as for the stable part, thats the reason i made this post. we have tested this game for a year and we are JUST now getting a partial stable game. |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
330
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Posted - 2013.02.22 02:51:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:IRuby Heart wrote:I've been here for 2 months, I have the patience of a starving cat Cool story bro? Anyway, I'm hoping we'll get an update soon, not SoonGäó, since the Devs vacation time is finally over.
I was expecting a weak @ss reply, glad to see you deliver. |
Sete Clifton
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
67
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Posted - 2013.02.22 02:55:00 -
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I've said this before and I'll say it again. Lack of communication between CCP and the community is the biggest threat/issue with Dust.
I think it's safe to say that most people here would be happy to stick around and keep playing as long as we knew what was coming and what was being worked on. If this is truly a beta, then they need to be more engaged with us and what we present to them. But constantly hearing "soon" and not seeing anything being done makes it seem like nothing is actually being done, which makes people not care anymore and leave. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
244
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Posted - 2013.02.22 03:05:00 -
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IRuby Heart wrote:what have we been testing this entire time. Weapon and Item balance? A few bugs here and there? It's time to move forward.
Yeah, god forbid the devs try balancing gameplay before they add even more things to it
IRuby Heart wrote:
I was expecting a weak @ss reply, glad to see you deliver.
K, thanks? You should really stop trying to troll. You're not very good at it, and I'm not just saying that because of this thread.
GoD-NoVa wrote: we are JUST now getting a partial stable game.
I'm worried that the devs actually take all QQ threads seriously, and that that's one of the reasons it's taking so long to get new content. The bugs still need a lot of work, but gameplay wise, I'd say it's all pretty well balanced. Maybe buff scout suits and the proto heavy suits and that's about it. |
Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
432
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Posted - 2013.02.22 03:09:00 -
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i'm going to take a guess on the ps4 games:
racing game fighting game soccer |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
244
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Posted - 2013.02.22 03:11:00 -
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Sobriety Denied wrote:i'm going to take a guess on the ps4 games:
racing game fighting game soccer
Don't forget Madden 14! |
Sylvana Nightwind
Expert Intervention Caldari State
60
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Posted - 2013.02.22 03:16:00 -
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Actually CCP is probably the most communicative game dev compared to other shooter devs. But yeah, we could use more variation of devs postng ;) |
GoD-NoVa
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
174
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Posted - 2013.02.22 03:25:00 -
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Sylvana Nightwind wrote:Actually CCP is probably the most communicative game dev compared to other shooter devs. But yeah, we could use more variation of devs postng ;)
i agree they are but it seems they are going quite at this point in time. even tho they may communicate more than other devs, their communication stills needs to get better because of how fast next-gen is coming. i for one will be buying a PS4 the week it comes out, what will dust do to keep me from playing a next-gen system with graphics on par with high-end pcs? im sure many more people feel the same |
Ner'Zul Nexhawk
Talos Incorporated
153
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Posted - 2013.02.22 03:55:00 -
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GoD-NoVa wrote:Sylvana Nightwind wrote:Actually CCP is probably the most communicative game dev compared to other shooter devs. But yeah, we could use more variation of devs postng ;) i agree they are but it seems they are going quite at this point in time. even tho they may communicate more than other devs, their communication stills needs to get better because of how fast next-gen is coming. i for one will be buying a PS4 the week it comes out, what will dust do to keep me from playing a next-gen system with graphics on par with high-end pcs? im sure many more people feel the same
If CCP's plans come to fruition, we will see Dust on PS4, so you'll play Dust with better graphics on a next-gen console.
Regarding the OP: I have a mixed feeling about CCP's plans being communicable to us. Certainly, I personally do not want to stay in the dark at all times and would much rather know what's coming. However, it might be a tricky path for devs to tread on.
The way I see it, CCP probably releases patches once they are ready. Thus, if they are going to post the patch notes a month prior to the patch's release, we may encounter a situation on the launch day:
"Unfortunately, Amarr dropships and tanks weren't added in this expansion due to stability issues, so instead we decided to tweak the Gallentean LAV a little bit. Sorry for the inconvenience."
The period between pre-launch notes release and the launch itself will still be most likely the time when devs are working on the expansion. Thus, any changes from the patch notes might be met with disappointment from the player base. |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
330
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Posted - 2013.02.22 04:02:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:IRuby Heart wrote:what have we been testing this entire time. Weapon and Item balance? A few bugs here and there? It's time to move forward.
Yeah, god forbid the devs try balancing gameplay before they add even more things to it IRuby Heart wrote:
I was expecting a weak @ss reply, glad to see you deliver.
K, thanks? You should really stop trying to troll. You're not very good at it, and I'm not just saying that because of this thread. I'm worried that the devs actually take all QQ threads seriously, and that that's one of the reasons it's taking so long to get new content. The bugs still need a lot of work, but gameplay wise, I'd say it's all pretty well balanced. Maybe buff scout suits and the proto heavy suits and that's about it.
Wasn't trying to troll, and even if I was trolling you, I certainly wouldn't be taking the worst troll on this site's opinion about it seriously.
I seriously don't want this productive thread to get locked so I'm done responding to your pathetic attempts at insults. GG. |
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
244
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Posted - 2013.02.22 04:22:00 -
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IRuby Heart wrote: I certainly wouldn't be taking the worst troll on this site's opinion about it seriously.
Yeah, I wouldn't take Mitsuko's opinion seriously either |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2013.02.22 04:42:00 -
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I've actually said this way back asking CCP to get more involved....some clowns thought I was acting privileged but I guess it just depends on who makes the post. But this is important, we don't have any clue what is going on or what or when to expect.
Trying to convinced people to play is hard as it is.....people always comment that this is the longest beta ever and we don't have a release date. We don't know when all of the promised features will be delivered. Hell....we still have only iron sights lol. CCP has to get it together. People are already talking about destiny & defia |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
330
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Posted - 2013.02.22 05:11:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:I've actually said this way back asking CCP to get more involved....some clowns thought I was acting privileged but I guess it just depends on who makes the post. But this is important, we don't have any clue what is going on or what or when to expect.
Trying to convinced people to play is hard as it is.....people always comment that this is the longest beta ever and we don't have a release date. We don't know when all of the promised features will be delivered. Hell....we still have only iron sights lol. CCP has to get it together. People are already talking about destiny & defia
Yeah it's getting bad, more of my friends know about Destiny but haven't heard of Dust. The fact that Bungie is vastly well known worldwide from creating Halo as well as their experience in beautiful worlds and top notch shooters. You can only expect that the hype and player following of Destiny will eventually overshadow Dust.
CCP needs take better advantage of this Headstart before it gets to that point. More exposure, advertising, community events, consistent game updates and expansions and Dev Blogs are great ways to attract new players as well as keep the player base you already have from jumping ship to the other MMOFPS. |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
437
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Posted - 2013.02.22 05:17:00 -
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As someone who does real programming and has been playing since the first closed beta build;
1) this really is a beta, and stop ******* diluting our vocabulary. 2) you have _no_ appreciation of how much progress each build has shown, which is to be expected from someone who doesn't understand even the basics of software development. 3) it's my professional assessment (rather than pulled from anus, like the rest of you whiners) that they've gotten the game to a point where they are comfortable with the increasing of complexity that comes with introducing new features and such, which is probably why they went open beta this build.
So keep going full ****** cause were pretty close to what should be the first gameplay oriented build in a long time. |
Rasputin La'Gar
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
28
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Posted - 2013.02.22 05:49:00 -
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If you want change, organize a CPM In other words organize the players to where we can give concise opinions |
Vin Vicious
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2013.02.22 06:20:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:As someone who does real programming and has been playing since the first closed beta build;
1) this really is a beta, and stop ******* diluting our vocabulary. 2) you have _no_ appreciation of how much progress each build has shown, which is to be expected from someone who doesn't understand even the basics of software development. 3) it's my professional assessment (rather than pulled from anus, like the rest of you whiners) that they've gotten the game to a point where they are comfortable with the increasing of complexity that comes with introducing new features and such, which is probably why they went open beta this build.
So keep going full ****** cause were pretty close to what should be the first gameplay oriented build in a long time.
this |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
404
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Posted - 2013.02.22 06:20:00 -
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Doc Kok wrote:Anndy Dusty wrote:GoD-NoVa wrote:It has been almost a year since Dust has been out stopped reading right there, this is not a released game ffs So no one is playing it right now?? What we are spending our time in is a core shooter mechanics/server stability/client stability bughunting testbed. There's 3 major builds to go until release.
We are not playing DUST 514. In fact, we don't even know what DUST 514 looks like, and we are essentially clueless as to what the deep game dynamics will be. |
Vin Vicious
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2013.02.22 06:32:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:Doc Kok wrote:Anndy Dusty wrote:GoD-NoVa wrote:It has been almost a year since Dust has been out stopped reading right there, this is not a released game ffs So no one is playing it right now?? What we are spending our time in is a core shooter mechanics/server stability/client stability bughunting testbed. There's 3 major builds to go until release. We are not playing DUST 514. In fact, we don't even know what DUST 514 looks like, and we are essentially clueless as to what the deep game dynamics will be.
exactly, they have already stated in the past this version is what they use to test stuff, im still trying to figure out why they even "released" this anyway and the only thing i can think of is to build up anticipation. |
GoD-NoVa
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
174
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Posted - 2013.02.22 06:56:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:As someone who does real programming and has been playing since the first closed beta build;
1) this really is a beta, and stop ******* diluting our vocabulary. 2) you have _no_ appreciation of how much progress each build has shown, which is to be expected from someone who doesn't understand even the basics of software development. 3) it's my professional assessment (rather than pulled from anus, like the rest of you whiners) that they've gotten the game to a point where they are comfortable with the increasing of complexity that comes with introducing new features and such, which is probably why they went open beta this build.
So keep going full ****** cause were pretty close to what should be the first gameplay oriented build in a long time.
No where have i been dogging this game old man. I want this game to succeed which is why i made this post. I understand that programming is hard, im just now taking classes for it. But lets be realistic, most of these gamers are not going to wait for CCP to bring this game out of beta. All they see is an incomplete game with horrible graphics. And it seems you dont understand something i said before. Sure each build has been some what better, but as a whole, what has Dust created that makes it stand a part from other shooters? It has been a year and nothing is shown. There are still bugs everywhere. Do you not understand that pretty much every big game development company is now developing games for the PS4? Most that can be create in less time Dust has been in beta.
I don't understand why you think the OP is trying to s*** talk the game, when im trying to bring light on what needs to be done to in order for this game to survive. Tell you the truth, Dust is still the most game i am excited about because of its potential. But if it takes another year for its potential so show, im afraid many players will leave to play next-gen.
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GoD-NoVa
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
174
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Posted - 2013.02.22 06:59:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:Doc Kok wrote:Anndy Dusty wrote:GoD-NoVa wrote:It has been almost a year since Dust has been out stopped reading right there, this is not a released game ffs So no one is playing it right now?? What we are spending our time in is a core shooter mechanics/server stability/client stability bughunting testbed. There's 3 major builds to go until release. We are not playing DUST 514. In fact, we don't even know what DUST 514 looks like, and we are essentially clueless as to what the deep game dynamics will be.
which is why i believe CCP should pick up the pace on developing Dust. it may be hard and complex, but something has to be done to keep this player base alive |
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