Whelp we do need a CSM, one that would benefit us all. We need ot have a voice spoken for the mercs. Obviously not everyone is going to be able to agree on one person, however we do need one. I think it should be put to a poular vote.

A poor CSM hurts us more than no representative.

I have 2 issues.

1. No Dust representative should be on the EVE CSM without EVE as their primary objective and only dust integration as their second objective.

2. You've only come to the CPM channel once, and don't even attend the #dust514 channel at all.

So 2 things. I appreciate that you are trying to take a proactive approach to structuring the community, and hope you keep running.

But I think your current efforts are shallow, unconstructed and wholly unworkable.

if you want to be taken seriously you need to go above and beyond a regular forum poster, this means:

Attend IRC on a regular basis
Help the community grow (via events, promotion, news feeding and more)
Create worthwhile contacts within the community to back you up (political / influential / well known users)
Use the tools you are provided to help the community get input (cpm.newEden.co, create a website or something!)

I've not witnessed any of the above, apparently you came into the cpm chat room once when I was away... but that's it, would like to see you in there more often to see you talk about what you want to do, and how you listen to other peoples opinion, but until then, you have given no action to the community, which is ultimately what counts.

If there were multiple candidates running for the CSM, I discussed this with a few people (including some of the hosts of Podside (a podcast on which I occasionally guest), and should there be multiple candidates who want to put themselves on the line for running for a position on the CSM for DUST 514, I would gladly call a 'Primary' Vote. Whereby everyone who has a vote (unfortunetly only people with EVE Accounts at this stage) would do an informal 'vote' for a candidate of their choice. Whomever was elected from those would stand for CSM, and everyone's vote would go to them to ensure we get our best chance to have a representative on the CSM.

As I have shown with my campaign so far, EVE Players ARE open to the idea, some have even encouraged candidates to step up.

I have pushed for this position, and now I am starting to work with others on the CPM about improving DUST 514's outlook to competetive gaming groups, as well as getting involved in oprganizing some of Kain's excellent OB Events (discussions still in the works).

I have come to admit, that sometimes I can be as stubborn as most, and I still stand by my conviction that a CSM representative is needed for the future of this game. And I believe that my passion for this game, and knowledge of both this game, and EVE Online gives me a good chance to gain us representation on the CSM.

I already have an EVE-side Voter Bloc or two on my side, and hopefully, them, combined with any support we can muster from DUST-side, we can be represented. If that is the only thing I achieve from running for CSM, that we get a representative for this game, and become a true part of New Eden, I'll be happy.

Of course, I'd like to do more, but that will be up to your support, and your votes.

Attend IRC on a regular basis

Coming so close to Officially lodging my candidacy for CSM8 on behalf of DUST 514 and EVE Online Integration. I'm reposting here to bring my candidacy to the fore, and remind everyone that I am still running.

Coming so close to Officially lodging my candidacy for CSM8 on behalf of DUST 514 and EVE Online Integration. I'm reposting here to bring my candidacy to the fore, and remind everyone that I am still running.

I may have had many differences with some members of the community, and though our views differ in many respects, I believe that we all are working for the same goals. To make this game the best it can be, and to ensure CCP gives us the Core Components of the game, such as great gameplay, persistent game world, and meaningful (but not compulsory) impact on the universe of New Eden.

I have recently been endeavouring to work with the volunteer association of the CPM in creating a more community-based game, as well as inspiring the competitive nature of the game in the form of Tournaments and Leagues.

This is a simple re-iteration of the fact that I will be running for CSM, and that I will endeavour to do my best to represent the ideals of DUST and EVE Integration into the massive, deep, and long-standing universe of New Eden.

The Black Jackal
aka. Hunter Blake

The fact that you have stopped by and talked to the CPM volunteers is greatly appreciated. I know that you and I disagree in some very key areas, but anyone who is willing to set disagreements and in-game politics aside and discuss things for the betterment of the community will always be welcomed. I still think it's too early for a CSM with their main platform being Dust.

I still really don't like some of your ideas like the safe dock for super-capitals and your ideas of redistributing and homogenizing Null-sec resources "to make things more fluid". Have you discussed any of these ideas with leaders in the Null Sec community?

What specifically would you do for low sec?

What are your opinions on the recent development and statements by CCP regarding the economics and mechanics of future Dust SOV/Faction Warfare?

Do you still feel that Dust should not have it's own localized representation and do you still feel Dusters should vote directly for the CSM?

Let's say you don't get elected to CSM8; are you planning on working for a Dust514 MCC (Merc Command Council) or planetary Council, to develop a voice to game feature development independent of the CSM system and it's original purpose? Which is to provide Eve Online game development feedback for CCP.

well if jackal loses the election and unloads the platforms a bit I can see jackal being a more useful ambassador between the two groups.

This whole things stupid on such a huge scale and people are way too egotistical to see it. I'm a big EVE player, i'm involved in politics more now than i've ever been but now is not the time for a Dust rep on the CSM nor do we need our own god damn council.

It's such a stupid and egotistical thing right now, the Dust community does not need multiple people on some CPM to represent it. Dust does not have the depth of EVE right now where it needs multiple people on multiple platforms to make sure that each individual aspect gets dealt with correctly for god sake.

EVE and Dust do not need some idiot representing both games either who thinks that walking in stations needs to be a priority for CCP or that destructible stations will fix nullsec for small corps, your crossing Zebras interview was pretty damn shocking and you're not going to get much support from the EVE based community, i'm surprised you didn't get laughed out of the CZ Podcast to be quite frank. There's not even any Dust based election process or support right now either so you're not going to get any votes from there.

Do you really, honestly, deep down think that you stand ANY chance at all of getting on the CSM this year?

So your reply is simply "yes"?

There's no further explanation as to why you think now is the right time or why you think you stand a chance?

I've been heavily involved with all the podcasts and CSM stuff over the last month or so and to be quite frank, i think you're the weakest candidate right now. Even below Darius III.

No i've not read the whole thread nor do i intend to, if you can't answer my questions directly what does that say of your commitment to the community?

If by some miracle you got elected and had to be the peoples voice you'll have to communicate with people on a one on one basis on a very regular occurrence. Hans has been amazing as has Two-Step and Trebor in answering and an all questions i've ever put to them, as has Mynnna who will be the chair of CSM8 and i speak with Mynnna on a very regular basis, Mynnna has always made the attempt to answer my Dust questions and he has never even played the damn game but at least he has a good idea of what the community wants.

Are you saying that every time someone messages you on skype or in game you're reply is going to be "I've already answered this question in this forum thread, or on this podcast so you need to go there and read it?..

Come on, get your **** together and convince me.

First of all, if you got elected you'd have to deal with a lot of people who don't give a **** about you being disinclined to answer anything for what ever reason but would still be expecting a reply so you need to learn to deal with it and your initial reaction says to me that you're just not ready to be dealing with the community. Hunter Blake as an EVE pod pilot should know this was going to come and should have prepared himself to deal with correctly when the time comes rather than attempting to belittle someone for wanting answers and not being interested enough to read your entire thread.

You should be trying to convince me to give you a vote rather than playing forum warrior right now because it's not just me you're talking to right now, every single member of the community can read your replys and will judge you based on what you put in that reply.

Why do you think now is the right time for CSM representation? There's simply not enough content in the game to warrant a seat on the CSM and yes i think that we'll see release during CSM8's tenure, i also believe that there's nothing at all someone on the CSM can do right now. CCP have their own roadmap right now, they have core gameplay mechanics to pin down and finalise in addition to getting the content that they need into the game, what can you possibly do to make that better that CCP can't do by coming to the forums and posting a thread for input themselves? This community is not big enough or diverse enough right now for that.

Not only that but in your above post you say that Dust needs representation upon release, not years down the line. What's stopping CCP from giving us a voice upon release rather than years down the line? You have to concede that you're thinking long term here which i appreciate and agree with but right now there's very little you can do Dust side, correct?..

Part of what you're saying i agree with, the CPM is a stupid idea run by a bunch of people with Ego's too buy to be actually interested in what the community needs but i have severe concerns about your ability to represent the community too, some of your ideas are shockingly bad, you say you've spoken to several high level nullsec entitys about the ideas you've had EVE side such as redistribution of minerals and destructible stations, who are they and what specifically did they say so that i can confirm you have actually spoken to people and they have agreed with some of your stuff because it's important that you're telling the truth and not simply making **** up to attempt to get more votes.

You don't need to bea CSM rep to help guide the community and volunteers, you don't need to be on the CSM to help the CPM, you're probably better off keeping your distance from them personally. You don't need to be on the CSM to help integration with major EVE Elements, the major EVE community elements you're talking about are all here already and doing their own thing and don't need your help so what else can you offer?

The question is not 'do we have enough content to warrant a CSM Rep' it is, do we have enough people. Even if what you say is true, and we take you 100k figure of a community. How many EVE Players have multiple accounts? I know plenty who have 2, many who have 3, and some who have 5 or more. We'll average that at 3 Accounts per player. So in essence, the 500k 'Active' Subscriptions for EVE Online boils down to roughly 125,000 People actually playing.

Now break it down further and say that 50% of them live in Nullsec, thats 62,500 people who have a candidate or multiples. 25% live in High sec, 31,250 who have a candidate or 2. 15% live in Wormholes, 10% in Faction Warfare. (NOTE: THese are not real values.)

You're SMALLEST community by these numbers is 12,500 Players... and THEY have a Representative on the CSM.
We have a large amount of content coming for release. And beyond that, we will impact (we already are to a small degree) New Eden. The size of our community, and the fact we are now (even in Beta) a part of the community shows us that we need representation now.

It may not be 'required' but nor is a nullsec candidate, faction warfare candidate, nor a CSM in general. But it's there to provide feedback, community views, and opinions to CCP developers, so that they can tailor the next series of updates, expansions, and gameplay elements to suit the people more, and keep factions within the game happy.
I'm well aware of DUSTs inability to vote, but they still need representation within the Universe that is EVE Online.

I, too, completely make up numbers on the fly to support a bad argument.

The only purpose a DUST rep would have on the CSM is to develop the EVE-Dust link on the EVE side. Your interaction with CCP on Dust development would be extremely minimal, and your voice on EVE issues (which would be the overwhelming majority of time spent) would be better utilized by subject experts who do a specific thing.

You do have a voice on the EVE Universe, it's called the forums. The nature of the CSM and what they deal with are exclusive from DUST. If CCP wants to form an advisory board for us, that's an entirely different issue.

I reiterated his figures that were 'made up' and used the same math he did as rough outline. The ideal is still the same. The CSM doesn't always deal with Wormholes, but they have a Representative, nor always with Faction Warfare.

I play EVE, I have a fair amount of knowledge pertaining to EVE, as CSM candidates are aware of the areas beyond their 'specialist' fields. By choosing to represent DUST 514, I have chosen a facet of NEW EDEN in the same way a wormhole candidate has done so, or a action Warfare Candidate has done so.

As to the link issue, this is a MAJOR part of DUST 514. The link is the basis around which this entire game was formed. It is a FPS MMO that LINKS with EVE Online. That was, and still is, one of the major selling points this game holds central. So having someone there, on the CSM, who wants to represent THAT LINK, is more important during this period of development because of that central focus.

What about shared market? Planetary Control? Faction Warfare influence? These are all integration elements. It's not just a matter of 'blasting' people from space. And it wont be. The link is key to more features in this game that raise it above and beyond the scope of CoD, Battlefield, and even MAG.

That's what we need represented.

Gameplay issues will never be satisfied. This is evidenced even by the EVE FOrums. The bugs, the patches, the fixes. But the core of the game needs to take priority at some stage, and we need to be there, represented, when it does. And it will happen prior to release, and DUST is closer to release this CSM term than before.