The CSM represents the playerbase of New Eden. Not the singular EVE-side. The only reason it is viewed as such, is that EVE players have been (up until now) the SOLE inhabitants of New Eden.

The Integration, as stated in my platform, is a process that requires a SINGLE voice. A unified Council. The CSM is already established, and already has direct contcat with CCP, and the integration of DUST was discussed at the summit meetings, and over Skype in great debates. With no DUST representatives taking part.

The reason this game IS so unique is that it interacts directly with the established world of EVE Online and New Eden. If you 'limit' that interaction by creating a separate council that ONLY interacts with the EVE CSM on integration, you'll have 3 series of debates that will not align. A SINGLE vision is the way of the future., Bringing the games closer together will ensure that DUST gets the attention it Deserves, the impact on New Eden it Deserves, as well as EVE having those same impacts on DUST. Yet having these impacts as 'optional' for the majority of the playerbase so as not to make each dependant on the other. but rather an additional asset to be used.

Forming our own council seems like a great idea, and IF it were able to gain us equality to the EVE CSM, I would be all for it. But if the CSM is left to represent New Eden's 'paying' customers... they will win in the EVE Vs. DUST debates.

Having a Representative on the CSM will ensure that Interaction is tempered, and comprimised with EVE players on their levels.

I'll vote for you if you push for some Sansha zombie missions.

What about having two separate bodies with each body nominating one of its members to simultaneously serve on the other body to represent that body's opinions...ie CSM & CPM with one person from CSM serving on the CPM board and one person from the CPM serving on the CSM board.

I have not read as much as I would like and I'm confident that CCP has plans to develop revenue from PS4. Current plans seem to be focused on PS3 Dust514 and EVE relationships. It develops more ways to play with CCP products and expands the customer base, a paying customer base. Free Dust514 interaction is the gateway, or free advertisement for EVE.

Furthermore, I believe any improvement to DUST514-EVE megaverse must increase revenue. That would mean at some point CCP will draw the line. Market access, Eve-Dust-Corp interaction, faction warfare, and tournament opportunity will all be pay to play.

The beta Dust514 game will need to be the training ground and advertisement of great quality to make paying to play for extended features a must have.

I just don't want to see Dust evolve into a game that would cost more that EVE for less opportunity and interaction. I just want to know, with all that is planned, where is the CCP toll booth, and what will it cost me?

Instead of saying you could, why don't you actually take the time to do that. I don't really need a copy paste of ideas that have been popular for years, I'm interested in what you are bringing to the table.

Don't get me wrong, I admire you attempts, but I doubt a DUST 514 Purist coined the term Evetard. And yes, I've known what an Evetard was.

Secondly, I'm sure you've heard... Hans isn't running for CSM this session. I don't know his reasons, and frankly, it's his personal choice. I'm not saying that should automatically qualify me to replace him, but I am approaching this election from DUST with EVE Integration. Representing DUST to a community of EVE players, and showing that my platform encompasses the parts of EVE in which I have been, have had ideas, and can contribute beyond the simple scope of DUST DUST DUST.

The Black Jackal
aka. Hunter Blake

I am definitely keen for a combined DUST/EVE Candidate, the fact that Jackal knows his **** on both sides of the fence is a major bonus.

Explain why a High Sec Mission Runner should be helping with null sec sovereignty. Why a Wormhole candidate should have a voice for faction Warfare... DUST is an Aspect of New Eden. And within my platform, I have a broad range of areas I have experience with, showing that whatever the topic is, whether it be DUST, Faction Warfare, or Null sec, I can put forth ideas, and discuss ideas.

oh man wow you've gate camped and been given access to the 8 intel channels of some large sov holding alliance/coalition?

Your experience in eve is amazing you are in like the exclusive club of... well everyone who has ever played the game and stepped out of empire.

For those of you who are actually interested in looking back into my previous Namesake, here is a quick list of the topics I did take part in. Some were game mechanic in nature, most are veteran Posts.

Please not these topics are for background purposes only, please to do attempt to ressurect these topics as most are outdated due to fixes, or changes in the mechanics prior to E3, Precursor, or later builds.

Look for the Jaxx Blake postings in these:

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=195282#post195282

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=166033#post166033

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=162837#post162837

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=143013#post143013

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=141768#post141768

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=134760#post134760

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=130115#post130115

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=130106#post130106

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=128899#post128899

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=128565#post128565

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=119989#post119989

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=119671#post119671

This list is purely to show that prior to changing my name to The Black Jackal, I maintained an active forum presence. Had feedback to provide, and issues that I spoke on concerning the core mechanics of the game.

This wont satisfy everyone, but it does show I know a bit more about DUST than most people slandering my CSM thread would credit me.

You are implying that your experience makes your opinion more valid than his, I am simply pointing out that your experience is common and although sure to impress non eve players, its mundane and doesn't allow you to completely dismiss the idea, I know quite a few small alliances that would be absolutely over the moon at the prospect of delayed local.

Today I am not here to defend Jackals campaign for CSM, simply here to respond to being taken out of context by someone with an agenda, who only questions jackals campaign after trying to silence people who take issue with racism and homophobia with threats.

Forgive me if I do not care that the self appointed leader of the dust community doesn't take me seriously.

The only point you have proven is that you'd rather use coercion and attack a third party than apologize for defending the indefensible.

Its good to see just how much proof you need to make statements like that, absolutely none, Jackal and I disagree on a lot of things, perhaps he sees you as a community leader, personally I just think you have an inflated ego because know how to log into an IRC channel.

You brought it here after using it as a threat in an attempt to silence people that have a problem with racism and homophobia.

I don't speak for southern legion but I am fairly sure that we would not tolerate members making racist/homophobic statements, I for one would be at the forefront of apologizing for their actions and first inline asking for their immediate dismissal.

I am more than happy to keep this discussion in the place where it started.

There is only one person trying to derail this topic and that's you, it started with you and i'll let you have the last word so it can end with you, you've issued an apology as terrible as it is, its about the best I expect from you so i'm going to take it and move on.

You are pathetic and anyone that reads from where this started will see through your attempts at misleading them.

I agree. And sorry for my use of the word 'trashes.' He's actually calling Black Jackals incompetent for being unable to manage CEO and CSM at the same time *He could handle one very well apparently according to Beld*

It's actually the opposite. PR guys NEED to mingle. If they cannot properly defuse these sort of situations then they don't deserve there position. PR often acts like a first line of defense for diplomacy and politics.

Hello ladies and Gentleman, I'm taking over as PR, from this point onward :P. Beld apologies for his comments (whether he likes it or not).

1 persons comments should not be taken as the view of An entire corp. Beld's views aren't the same as mine and neither are Jackal's. Everyone will have different opinions. I could look at Iron Wolf's comments and think everyone in Betamax is opposed to Jackal being on the CSM. This is false. I could look at everyone in Negative Feedback and call them all trolls and terrible people. This is false, and while many people do it, it doesn't make it right.

Please direct all questions to me.

Ps. Beld, Jackal and I are all friends, doesn't mean we don't all have different views.

Call alts if you will, but my alt is named Watchful Sentinel.

May I who do you think I am an alt of?

^ YOU GUYS ARE ALL A-HOLES IN YOUR OWN SPECIAL WAYS.

This is the exact point I've been trying to make to him in other threads. Glad you could force it down on him that we all don't share the same ideas.

On that note - Beld's words still stand. He's attacked Jackal's upright and - even unintentionally - has said things that make Black Jackals seem like he would crumble eventually if he were to ever succeed on making CSM. Since they share the same corp it's easy to assume Beld would understand Black Jackals conditions better then the rest of us.

So is your previous statement a retraction to his statement and you're apologizing for his flukes - or is this an opinion of one your more well known members as a statement to the community on Black Jackals inability to multi-task two large responsibilities?

Amazing, the people posting racist and homophobic crap on the forum or defending it manage to turn this around and make me out to be the bad guy, well played scum, well played.

All Beld meant by that statement was that if Jackal got a position on the CSM, he would become very busy. If Jackal became that busy, he may have less time to deal with all things himself. Jackal could still manage both things at once, but he would have LESS time to put into the corp, and Beld knows that Jackal has done a great job setting up and running The Southern Legion and doesn't want all of his hard work to be it at risk.

Personally, I trust whoever Jackal decides to be directors, and am not worried about the state of the corp should he become a CSM member.

A poor CSM hurts us more than no representative.

I have 2 issues.

1. No Dust representative should be on the EVE CSM without EVE as their primary objective and only dust integration as their second objective.

2. You've only come to the CPM channel once, and don't even attend the #dust514 channel at all.

So 2 things. I appreciate that you are trying to take a proactive approach to structuring the community, and hope you keep running.

But I think your current efforts are shallow, unconstructed and wholly unworkable.

if you want to be taken seriously you need to go above and beyond a regular forum poster, this means:

Attend IRC on a regular basis
Help the community grow (via events, promotion, news feeding and more)
Create worthwhile contacts within the community to back you up (political / influential / well known users)
Use the tools you are provided to help the community get input (cpm.newEden.co, create a website or something!)

I've not witnessed any of the above, apparently you came into the cpm chat room once when I was away... but that's it, would like to see you in there more often to see you talk about what you want to do, and how you listen to other peoples opinion, but until then, you have given no action to the community, which is ultimately what counts.