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Tectonious Falcon The Southern Legion 395	Posted - 2013.02.13 05:14:00 - [61] - Quote zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote: Tectonious Falcon wrote: I have no opinion on what's happening TBH, but you haven't seen him because he's Australian and if you'd been playing closed beta you would probably recognise our corp. I honestly do not reccognize it and I did play closed so yeah sorry You must be new to the forums...... Or you never got a chance to play on our servers. But I'll go with new to the forums.
zeek1227 zeek1227 Blitzkrieg Co. 146	Posted - 2013.02.13 05:20:00 - [62] - Quote Tectonious Falcon wrote: zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote: Tectonious Falcon wrote: I have no opinion on what's happening TBH, but you haven't seen him because he's Australian and if you'd been playing closed beta you would probably recognise our corp. I honestly do not reccognize it and I did play closed so yeah sorry You must be new to the forums...... Or you never got a chance to play on our servers. But I'll go with new to the forums. Yeah I honestly never cared in closed about forums then I started checking it for news and got sucked in lol
Tectonious Falcon The Southern Legion 395	Posted - 2013.02.13 05:25:00 - [63] - Quote zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote: Tectonious Falcon wrote: zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote: Tectonious Falcon wrote: I have no opinion on what's happening TBH, but you haven't seen him because he's Australian and if you'd been playing closed beta you would probably recognise our corp. I honestly do not reccognize it and I did play closed so yeah sorry You must be new to the forums...... Or you never got a chance to play on our servers. But I'll go with new to the forums. Yeah I honestly never cared in closed about forums then I started checking it for news and got sucked in lol Once you open the forums there's no turning back.....
slystylz vassar Military Gamers 7	Posted - 2013.02.13 05:44:00 - [64] - Quote Please allow me a few questions from the floor. 1. When is the elections to take place? 2. Who are your running against? 3. Do you know of any one else that is campaigning? 4. What is your EVE avatar? I like your ideas. I don't think a game for free will be integrated to a game that is pay to play so easily. DUST will need to be a gate way for players to join EVE. As mercs or as new pilot. CCP can use EVE to enhanced DUST to advance game play, but CCP is in it for the money! Never deny it is a money machine, and it should be. Until Dust514 provides income that is substancial, it will always be an addon, a taste, & an invitation to EVE. Dust effects - I like the station timers effects from DUST assaults. I would like to see station battlefields, or even jump gate facilities battle grounds. Oh Jump Gates! What a game effect! Capture-able facilities would add new depth to EVE and DUST514. The effect on EVE would build and expand to New playing fields, New wars, New markets, New rules... A larger universe. When do we vote... In EVE?
Rasputin La'Gar Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 28	Posted - 2013.02.13 05:48:00 - [65] - Quote The Black Jackal wrote: Cast off... having this game affect [EVE] in any dramatic way This says it all. Everything else is just the fluff of you trying to sell yourself. If I had an account, I'd vote for this guyhttps://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=50590&find=unread (Hans). He seems to have an actual interest and he does more than simply make a thread to sell himself And, like people have been saying, a CPM is absolutely needed
Rasputin La'Gar Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 28	Posted - 2013.02.13 05:53:00 - [66] - Quote slystylz vassar wrote: blah blah Dust is just an EVE gateway If you've read anything from CCP you'd know they seem to want to make a legitimate universe out of this. In the future, esp with PS4 (which could very well be pay to play) Dust becoming more and more equal to EVE is a reality.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2013.02.13 05:57:00 - [67] - Quote I know the Southern Legion. I still do not know the Black Jackal. One thing that bothers me immensely is a clear platform of personal ideas, not a representative of the community. You want to dabble in supercaps, EVE disenfranchisement, nullsec, highsec, faction warfare and nebulous "more". Your answer for nearly everything is more content when EVE is already littered with content that needs reworked first. More capitals, more ships, more missions, more everything, but no clear description of how A) putting you on the CSM would achieve those goals, and B) how the things you suggest would even improve the game. Some of your suggestions are downright terrible, such as allowing supercapitals to dock just to make them targets for DUST mercs to steal. You reply to every post in your candidacy threads but otherwise are mute on all public channels. What have you done for the community lately? Which ideas have you supported that were not your own? What content have you already added to DUST given the tools we have now? What do you do in EVE? What do you do in DUST? Where do you get information on parts of the games unfamiliar to you? Who do you want to vote for you? Who would NOT have their needs addressed by voting for you? How would you define success and failure should you receive a CSM seat? So many unanswered questions. Please at least try to convince me you are taking this seriously.
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion 302	Posted - 2013.02.13 09:36:00 - [68] - Quote @slystylz vassar - When is the elections to take place? Generally there is a few weeks during March to vote for your candidates. The CSM7 Results were posted on 2012.03.24 - Who are your running against? Do you know of any one else that is campaigning? Here is a list of everyone currently confirmed as running and campaigning. Ayeson Chendow Decent Chitsa Jason Cipreh Daehan Minhyok Herr Ronin Hunter Blake James315 Malcanis- Mangala Solaris Marc Scaurus Mike Azariah Mino Noud Mynnna Nathan Jameson Night Beagle Ripard Teg Roc Wieler Unforgiven Storm Xenuria - In addition these people are confirmed as NOT running. Alekseyev Karrde Elise Randolph Hans Jagerblitzen Issler Dainze Kelduum Revan Poetic Stanziel Seleene Two Step - What is your EVE avatar? As Stated in the OP, my EVE Avatar is Hunter Blake. I also sign the majority of my posts as The Black jackal aka hunter Blake or vice versa.
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion 302	Posted - 2013.02.13 09:56:00 - [69] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: I know the Southern Legion. I still do not know the Black Jackal. One thing that bothers me immensely is a clear platform of personal ideas, not a representative of the community. You want to dabble in supercaps, EVE disenfranchisement, nullsec, highsec, faction warfare and nebulous "more". Your answer for nearly everything is more content when EVE is already littered with content that needs reworked first. More capitals, more ships, more missions, more everything, but no clear description of how A) putting you on the CSM would achieve those goals, and B) how the things you suggest would even improve the game. Some of your suggestions are downright terrible, such as allowing supercapitals to dock just to make them targets for DUST mercs to steal. You reply to every post in your candidacy threads but otherwise are mute on all public channels. What have you done for the community lately? Which ideas have you supported that were not your own? What content have you already added to DUST given the tools we have now? What do you do in EVE? What do you do in DUST? Where do you get information on parts of the games unfamiliar to you? Who do you want to vote for you? Who would NOT have their needs addressed by voting for you? How would you define success and failure should you receive a CSM seat? So many unanswered questions. Please at least try to convince me you are taking this seriously. If you do not know me, then you do not know the Southern Legion. It was myself, and 3 others who united the people from three different Corporations in the beginning to form The Southern Legion. I was chosen as the leader. I'm on daily, both DUST-side and EVE-side, talking to my coporation, and people in the Newly formed Legion Academy (a Corporation for helping DUST players get into EVE if they so wish). I'm helping people, joining battles in squads, and talking on TEAM chat every match. As to how my suggestions and platform would imrpove the game? I could run down every single proposal in ultra-detailed format, tell you how it would intertwine with another idea, forming a nexus of inforation that, while it seems simple on the surface, would have deep repercussions. To Use an Example: Putting Local in Nullsec on Delayed Mode. How would this affect the game? It would allow shock attacks, surprise pirate strikes, covert ops, deep-space raids, strikes that can take down assets much faster because of the element of surprise. Thus is would 'remove' assets from the game. Removing supply. This in turn would require that the people losing said assets would need to replace them. Increasing Demand. More Demand, less Supply, = Stimulated Industrial Economy, Stimulated warfare, and Nullsec's factor of danger is raised. It would also remove botters, as there would be no immediate local-intel for the bot programs to react to and dock up. I've supported many ideas that were not my own, and continue to do so, but if the belief that my ideas would also improve the game, why would I not support those too? I get information on parts of the game unfamiliar to me through a) the wiki and other websites, b) people who ARE familiar with those aspects, and c) from attempting it in some way shape or form as much as I can. Trying to familiarize myself with the few aspects of New Eden I am unfamiliar with. In EVE, I have done almost everything from High Sec, and Null Sec Industrialist, Mission Runner, to exploration, Nullsec combat pilot, small gang warfare, Stealth bomber scouting, I took part in the DRF Vs. NC war (on the side of the NC) as part of the DEMON HUNTERS Alliance. I was in Cascade Imminent for a short time before personal reasons drew me out of Null and into casual High Sec flying where I'd log into Skill Queue and go off. Recently, I've gone into Faction Warfare to explore just how deep you can push the current DUST / EVE Integration. Orchestrating Corp Battles for the Open Beta Tournament run by Kane Spero. One of your own, who approached me to join in the tournament (a gesture I was immensely grateful for despite having planned such already. As to who would NOT have their needs addressed by me, that would be wormholes likely. Though some of my changes may affect them. But wormholes are something I am terribly unfamiliar with except in the fact that out of them comes alot of money, there's no local, and requires a fair bit of scanning skill to navigate frequently. Defining Success or Failure as a CSM Representative would depnds on simply getting my platform heard, and on the negotiating table. Setting the foundations for future DUST Candidates on the CSM to build upon. Or myself should I then chose to run for a second term. Failure would ultimately be having DUST set adrift with no connection to EVE beyond what we have at the moemnt. Leaving this community to stagnate without the integration I sorely believe it needs to succeed. Regards, The Black Jackal aka Hunter Blake
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.02.13 13:23:00 - [70] - Quote uhm Two Step said he wasn't running...

The Black Jackal The Southern Legion 302	Posted - 2013.02.13 13:28:00 - [71] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: uhm Two Step said he wasn't running... Can I suggest you read my post again. The second list is people confirmed as NOT running.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.02.13 13:42:00 - [72] - Quote I'm sorry I am trying to read this with my international filter on, the number of misspelling makes it seem like a non-English 1st language is posting.
slystylz vassar Military Gamers 7	Posted - 2013.02.13 14:20:00 - [73] - Quote Rasputin La'Gar wrote: slystylz vassar wrote: blah blah Dust is just an EVE gateway If you've read anything from CCP you'd know they seem to want to make a legitimate universe out of this. In the future, esp with PS4 (which could very well be pay to play) Dust becoming more and more equal to EVE is a reality. I have not read as much as I would like and I'm confident that CCP has plans to develop revenue from PS4. Current plans seem to be focused on PS3 Dust514 and EVE relationships. It develops more ways to play with CCP products and expands the customer base, a paying customer base. Free Dust514 interaction is the gateway, or free advertisement for EVE. Furthermore, I believe any improvement to DUST514-EVE megaverse must increase revenue. That would mean at some point CCP will draw the line. Market access, Eve-Dust-Corp interaction, faction warfare, and tournament opportunity will all be pay to play. The beta Dust514 game will need to be the training ground and advertisement of great quality to make paying to play for extended features a must have. I just don't want to see Dust evolve into a game that would cost more that EVE for less opportunity and interaction. I just want to know, with all that is planned, where is the CCP toll booth, and what will it cost me?
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.02.13 14:26:00 - [74] - Quote slystylz vassar wrote: Rasputin La'Gar wrote: slystylz vassar wrote: blah blah Dust is just an EVE gateway If you've read anything from CCP you'd know they seem to want to make a legitimate universe out of this. In the future, esp with PS4 (which could very well be pay to play) Dust becoming more and more equal to EVE is a reality. I have not read as much as I would like and I'm confident that CCP has plans to develop revenue from PS4. Current plans seem to be focused on PS3 Dust514 and EVE relationships. It develops more ways to play with CCP products and expands the customer base, a paying customer base. Free Dust514 interaction is the gateway, or free advertisement for EVE. Furthermore, I believe any improvement to DUST514-EVE megaverse must increase revenue. That would mean at some point CCP will draw the line. Market access, Eve-Dust-Corp interaction, faction warfare, and tournament opportunity will all be pay to play. The beta Dust514 game will need to be the training ground and advertisement of great quality to make paying to play for extended features a must have. I just don't want to see Dust evolve into a game that would cost more that EVE for less opportunity and interaction. I just want to know, with all that is planned, where is the CCP toll booth, and what will it cost me? ^Is more in tune with dust 514 than jackal is.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2013.02.13 15:16:00 - [75] - Quote Instead of saying you could, why don't you actually take the time to do that. I don't really need a copy paste of ideas that have been popular for years, I'm interested in what you are bringing to the table.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.02.13 15:18:00 - [76] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Instead of saying you could, why don't you actually take the time to do that. I don't really need a copy paste of ideas that have been popular for years, I'm interested in what you are bringing to the table. You know what I should Google his platforms to see if he did copy paste...
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion 302	Posted - 2013.02.13 20:37:00 - [77] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Instead of saying you could, why don't you actually take the time to do that. I don't really need a copy paste of ideas that have been popular for years, I'm interested in what you are bringing to the table. Wait. First you say that my 'ideas' are blatantly self-serving, that they are not what the community wants. Now you say that I copied and pasted these 'popular' ideas into my platform? Please. Make up your mind. The fact of the matter is, that I believe each and every Idea I have in my platform will have a positive impact on the EVE - DUST link. Stimulating economy in EVE by increasing warfare, making mission running less repetitive, adding a 'semi-single player' experience to DUST (besides Swarm Modes) that can also be helpful in training your DUST Soldiers. Rewards for supporting actions from capsuleers to DUST mercs, making them WANT to support us. Loyalty points for DUST. Yes! Popular idea for years? No. The concept has existed in EVE for years, so yes, it's an idea I want to take for DUST. Applying it to 'Army-issue' Gear rather than Navy-issue. Putting it as the sole reward for Faction Warfare Battles, reducing the impact that could be achieved by 'exploiting' Faction Battles yet still rewarding the players For taking part.
Omnipotent Zitro Imperfects Negative-Feedback 156	Posted - 2013.02.13 20:55:00 - [78] - Quote CCP has clearly stated already that there will be no Dust CSM anytime soon and that anybody wanting to run for CSM should be doing it for EVE and not dust because the CSM is in place for EVE. Not for dust. It's for EVE! EVE!!!! CCP doesn't want a duster to run for EVE CSM because it defeats the purpose of it. Dust is still in beta!!!! BETA! Do you know what a beta is? Wait until the game is release officially, and when/if CCP even decided it needs a Dust CSM! Until then just play the game and give feedback.
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion 302	Posted - 2013.02.13 20:57:00 - [79] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: slystylz vassar wrote: Rasputin La'Gar wrote: slystylz vassar wrote: blah blah Dust is just an EVE gateway If you've read anything from CCP you'd know they seem to want to make a legitimate universe out of this. In the future, esp with PS4 (which could very well be pay to play) Dust becoming more and more equal to EVE is a reality. I have not read as much as I would like and I'm confident that CCP has plans to develop revenue from PS4. Current plans seem to be focused on PS3 Dust514 and EVE relationships. It develops more ways to play with CCP products and expands the customer base, a paying customer base. Free Dust514 interaction is the gateway, or free advertisement for EVE. Furthermore, I believe any improvement to DUST514-EVE megaverse must increase revenue. That would mean at some point CCP will draw the line. Market access, Eve-Dust-Corp interaction, faction warfare, and tournament opportunity will all be pay to play. The beta Dust514 game will need to be the training ground and advertisement of great quality to make paying to play for extended features a must have. I just don't want to see Dust evolve into a game that would cost more that EVE for less opportunity and interaction. I just want to know, with all that is planned, where is the CCP toll booth, and what will it cost me? ^Is more in tune with dust 514 than jackal is. Not entirely sure how you come to that conclusion. What he said in his post is pretty much exactly what I am campigning for. More of DUST, but ensuring we dont get less for more... I don't believe any of the above should be pay to play, there are ways of generating revenue without impacting core game mechanics such as player market. UVTs are one of these, as are Skill Boosters, and likely things like Skill CLusters, and Spikes will likely be AURUM purchases. Most Free-to-play games (the decent ones anyway) make you pay for convenience, or increased speed of aquisition. Not core mechanics of the game.
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion 302	Posted - 2013.02.13 21:02:00 - [80] - Quote Omnipotent Zitro wrote: CCP has clearly stated already that there will be no Dust CSM anytime soon and that anybody wanting to run for CSM should be doing it for EVE and not dust because the CSM is in place for EVE. Not for dust. It's for EVE! EVE!!!! CCP doesn't want a duster to run for EVE CSM because it defeats the purpose of it. Dust is still in beta!!!! BETA! Do you know what a beta is? Wait until the game is release officially, and when/if CCP even decided it needs a Dust CSM! Until then just play the game and give feedback. This is a quote from my EVE-side CSM campaign. The thread is linked in the OP if you so wish to read it. Alekseyev Karrde wrote: DUST players are free to buy EVE subscriptions in preparation for the election if they're so motivated. Frankly it'd be useful to have someone with ties to the DUST community on CSM8. After (if?) you guys see the DUST CSM Minutes you'll appreciate the need for continued and strong guidance from the CSM on the issue. Don't take that as an endorsement of this dude in particular as I don't know him and the field is still forming, but he seems to have thought things out and presented his approach coherently. If the alternative is more ZionShads, this guy is at least tethered to reality. So give him a chance and let him run on his merits. If he wants to run a DUST-aimed campaign let him; who's to say it wont work? Alekseyev Karrde, is a member of CSM7, and as he says, though he doesn't state this to 'endorse' me. Which is a fair statement, he says it would " be useful to have someone with ties to the DUST community on CSM8. After (if?) you guys see the DUST CSM Minutes you'll appreciate the need for continued and strong guidance from the CSM on the issue." Now the DUST-related CSM Minutes haven't been released as yet as far as I am aware. But considering this CSM Candidate is saying such a thing would be useful, why shouldn't one of us run? Or would you prefer us to be un-represented when the EVE-DUST link IS discussed?

Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2013.02.13 21:12:00 - [81] - Quote The Black Jackal wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: Instead of saying you could, why don't you actually take the time to do that. I don't really need a copy paste of ideas that have been popular for years, I'm interested in what you are bringing to the table. Wait. First you say that my 'ideas' are blatantly self-serving, that they are not what the community wants. Now you say that I copied and pasted these 'popular' ideas into my platform? Please. Make up your mind. The fact of the matter is, that I believe each and every Idea I have in my platform will have a positive impact on the EVE - DUST link. Stimulating economy in EVE by increasing warfare, making mission running less repetitive, adding a 'semi-single player' experience to DUST (besides Swarm Modes) that can also be helpful in training your DUST Soldiers. Rewards for supporting actions from capsuleers to DUST mercs, making them WANT to support us. Loyalty points for DUST. Yes! Popular idea for years? No. The concept has existed in EVE for years, so yes, it's an idea I want to take for DUST. Applying it to 'Army-issue' Gear rather than Navy-issue. Putting it as the sole reward for Faction Warfare Battles, reducing the impact that could be achieved by 'exploiting' Faction Battles yet still rewarding the players For taking part. Did you just take an idea that Beers and I have already put proposals on CCP Dev's desks as something you came up with and will make happen? You need to stop throwing out promises and start actually explaining everything. The conclusion that all your changes are pure positive is already a troubling sign that you have not thought through the full consequences of even small changes. So my position is unchanged. If you want me to start taking you seriously, you have to seriously break down your entire platform and defend it to the minutia.
Deadeyes Anterie Crimson Ravens Talons RISE of LEGION 269	Posted - 2013.02.13 21:33:00 - [82] - Quote I'm not really seeing the point of this conversation. Jackal is going to run for CSM. Dust players have no vote and no voice so it is not going to matter at all if they support him. Dusters with eve accounts will vote for their eve interests. Until CCP enfranchises dust players there is no reason to run for CSM on a dust platform, even if you think it is the first move you have no votes to support you. The unofficial CPM 0 is the only logical step to gaining a player leadership structure.
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion 302	Posted - 2013.02.13 21:51:00 - [83] - Quote Deadeyes Anterie wrote: I'm not really seeing the point of this conversation. Jackal is going to run for CSM. Dust players have no vote and no voice so it is not going to matter at all if they support him. Dusters with eve accounts will vote for their eve interests. Until CCP enfranchises dust players there is no reason to run for CSM on a dust platform, even if you think it is the first move you have no votes to support you. The unofficial CPM 0 is the only logical step to gaining a player leadership structure. I will again point you to this quote from my EVE-side campaign. Alekseyev Karrde wrote: DUST players are free to buy EVE subscriptions in preparation for the election if they're so motivated. Frankly it'd be useful to have someone with ties to the DUST community on CSM8. After (if?) you guys see the DUST CSM Minutes you'll appreciate the need for continued and strong guidance from the CSM on the issue. Don't take that as an endorsement of this dude in particular as I don't know him and the field is still forming, but he seems to have thought things out and presented his approach coherently. If the alternative is more ZionShads, this guy is at least tethered to reality. So give him a chance and let him run on his merits. If he wants to run a DUST-aimed campaign let him; who's to say it wont work? There IS a reason for us to have a representative of the CSM. They are discussing the link in their sessions and minutes as we speak. And though you stated that people with EVE accounts will vote for their EVE interests. I am an EVE player, as well as DUST. Many in my corp, many I've spoken to, and even some pure EVE players support the idea. Even as above a CSM7 rep says ' it would be useful'. Saying there is no reason for us to be represented, in the face of many supporting posts for a rep of some description, isn't logical. As to the unofficial CPM 0... They are doing a good job of outlining DUSTs defeicencies and strengths, and more power to them for doing so, but I cannot endorse segregation of the 2 games in that manner, especially when not a single vote was placed for the so-called members of the CPM 0. The idea behind my entire campaign is to improve the EVE / DUST link and bring the communities closer together. Not force them apart by making them chose EVE or DUST representatives.
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion 302	Posted - 2013.02.13 21:54:00 - [84] - Quote DUST 514 / EVE Integration - I want to see DUST and EVE Avatars walking side by side in Stations. A deeper connection between DUST and EVE Players by allowing us to directly interact, even if it's just at first in a social environment. And beyond that, I want to see the support DUST can give EVE Players expand, the rewards attained by both increased for supporting actions (ie. Loyalty Points for Providing Orbital Bombardments for your Faction), and increased bounty gains, or LP gains based on DUST control, as well as EVE Tier. Breakdown: Social Environment interaction will bring more sense of community to the games. If you can see DUST mercs and Capsuleers side-by-side, the distinction of how they are playing the game is the only difference you'll see after a while. EVE-side rewards for supporting their DUST Counterparts Faction Warfare efforts. Inclusive of Loyalty Points in accordance with current Faction Warfare rewards would give Capsuleers that are not directly affiliated with DUST 514 a reason to give the DUST Soldiers support beyond the 'I want to rain death on DUST bunnies' which will eventually run it's course as they generally do. Increasing system-control LP gains, and bounty gains based on DUST as well as EVE-side tier. Well, that one speaks for itself. If you hold, and upgrade your system, and protect it's districts alongside your DUST mercs and EVE counterparts, you'll beneift more. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Furthering Faction Warfare Interaction and keeping people flowing into it. - better rewards, greater gains, and Faction Warfare EXCLUSIVE ships, modules, and gear that require the Militia Flag to be used. Breakdown: This part of my platform ties in with the above. Increasing the appeal of Faction Warfare so that it can be viewed as an 'end-game' are to be a part of, and not as a 'stepping stone' to Null sec. Just like Wormhole dwellers, and Null Sec Empire Builders, a life in the military service should be a career unto itself. And be viewed that way. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Pushing for DUST to hit EVE players in more ways than one. - The ability to hire mercs to accelrate greatly your conquest ideas. The ability to break reinforcement timers with a DUST assault on a reinforced station, or the ability to 'capture' said station. With th alternative being to destroy and rebuild said station. Breakdown: This is an expansion of the Faction Warfare mechanic already in play, applied to a broader range, inclusive of Null Sec. The ability to decrease sovereignty grind makes conquering territory more appealing to Nullsec Empires (a complaint that has been bandied about) increasing conflict. Increased conflict = assets being removed and requiring replacement. Less 'Supply' more 'Demand'. Giving industrialists more reason to contruct, letting isk flow. Destruction of Stations (requiring them to be rebuilt using the remains of the old station) is an ISK sink to stimulate mineral flow. Alot of minerals will flow into Nullsec to rebuild Destroyed Stations, especially if the ability to 'pop' station timers with DUST mercs is implemented. It would be entirely possible to raid into enemy territory, destroy a station (with SBUs to make vulnerable in the first place) over the course of 6-9 hours maybe, and retreat. Leaving every asset in that station wreckage, and the station itself requiring rebuild. Supply and demand again, stimulating the economy, and stimulating warfare. The alternative to 'capture' a station gives alliances the ability to take said assets instead of destroying them, and save themselves the cost of rebuilding the station. All because they pick up a DUST corp, or have a DUST division in their ranks. Rewarding integration. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ More Content! More ships, more DUST Vehicles. I want to keep us rolling in new, and fresh content in upcoming patches. More Capital Ships based along roles. Ships capable of giving strategic, as well as Tactical Advantage (possible ideas include 'Jump Ships' Able to temporarily create a Titan-like bridge between 2 of them that goes both ways.) Breakdown: The more capital ships idea has been around for a while, I will admit, posted by so many that it's hard to tell who initially proposed it. I proposed it again recently myself on the EVE Forums, even with a few ideas for how they could be 'role' defined. Combat Carriers, etc. As for something like the 'Jump Ships', they would be a Startegic Asset in Nullsec (the only place where they'd be likely to work), that WOULD NOT require the ability to Build a Titan to attain the attacking capabilities. Why would this be positive you ask? If you don't possess a Titan, you have no 'mobile bridge' capabilities, and your ability to plan attacks and conquests is diminished, if you can 'escort' a jump ship with a small, faster fleet, and then jump an invasion force, you are able to 'emulate' a Titan-bridge like assault, with most of the advantages that come with it. Increasing the possibility of conflict from Corporation not already established in Nullsec, and unable to 'build' their own Titan. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion 302	Posted - 2013.02.13 21:54:00 - [85] - Quote Loyalty Points for DUST 514! - Yes, I'm going there. Corp Battles should reward Loyalty points, much like EVE FactioN warfare sites. Forget Skill Points and ISK for the faction Warfare Battles, those matches couple with PvE will give us those aplenty. I want to particpate to get Factional Standing AND some epic 'Army' type Modules, Weapons, Armors, Vehicles, and More. Breakdown: Loyalty Points for Faction Warfare. An idea ported from EVE to DUST, for Army-issue goods. Giving us a reward, without the ability to SP or ISK farm as easily. Sure, if you reward Faction Battles at all, there's some room for exploit, and that would need to be discussed, but Loyalty Points would give DUST players a reward of those 'better' Army-issue suits, weapons, or such. Similar in effect to the Navy-issue equipment in EVE Online. (Less CPU / PG required, slightly improved functionality over the 'equivalent', possibly less Skill Requirements). These items, like even the 'Officer' Gear would be lost upon death. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Secondary Platform More variety in PvE in DUST 514 and EVE Online - DUST-side Missions similar to Campaign-modes (miniaturized) in other games. With diverging outcomes based on actions. More EVE-side mission varieties, with new types such as 'escort'. Breakdown: Introducing Campaign-style PvE Missions can sell the game to Single-player and Co-op players, generate ISK, and give the ability to train groups without a basic 'swarm mode' mechanic. Defined goals that you 'conquer' even if you run these missions side-by side integrated EVE - DUST teams (Space missions developing based on the ground-side mission outcomes) Epic arcs for storyline-purposes, and in the beginning with lower-level missions, the ability to actually 'learn' how to play the game without being dumped into immediate high-threat environments such as PvP and Swarm Modes. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Helping make Nullsec more fluid. - Inciting warfare in Nullsec always sets my heart aflame with the fact that it's supposed to be danagerous space, yet large coalitions are making it actually safer than lowsec... but with greater rewards? What happens to risk vs. reward there. Here is want to instill a DELAYED LOCAL. Giving pilots the ability to actually catch enemies unaware, move forces through hostile space undetected (if no-one sees them) and eliminate botters and macro miners (don' scoff, they're there we all know it.) - In addition, I want to give gifts. Giving a select few stations the ability to dock up Super Capitals. But every gift, has a price. Not matter how well hidden. The stations are scattered, far and wide, rare, and in addition stations should become destructable. Eliminating any assets that station holds... and requiring said stations to be rebuilt at the cost of the rebuilder. (Minerals etc.) Breakdown: Inciting warfare in Nullsec is something everyone is trying to do, (even alot of nullsec dwellers) since the coalitions hold far to0 much power and control over the null regions. These 'blocs' prevent future Alliances making null their home without first paying homage to the super-powers. Which means less conflict. Delayed Local has been a hotly debated topic on both sides of the fence. It's not only a conflict driver, and a way to make Nullsec actually as dangerous as it should be, it's an economic stimulation as assets such as botting mining barges, or non-botting ones who aren't paying attention, get destroyed. Surprise attacks can keep everyone on their toes, destroy assets much easier, and allow Covert Operations to actually have some tactical value when trying to sneak behind enemy lines. Now to a big one, the few rare stations for 'docking' Super Capitals. Controversial, yes, but how valuable would these stations become? The ability to dock your most valuable ships, that is simply priceless... so many Nullsec Alliances would fight for such stations. What doesn't come out of this positive? Even if Station Destruction isn't implemented, capturing such stations would mean you've nuetralized whatever supercaps were in there, and the former owners would likely stop at nothing to get those assets back under their control.
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion 302	Posted - 2013.02.13 21:55:00 - [86] - Quote Reserved for forthcoming Break-downs.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.02.13 22:06:00 - [87] - Quote I don't know how to put it nicely so I am going to say what most of the folks think of you as. You're an Evetard. This is not a term of endearment, you are nearly been lumped in the same pile of people from eve that would like to see this game fail. Also you're more stubborn than a brick, until you learn on how to get hammered you're never going to fit in. I can have a debate with Noc over AV verses tanks for hours on end and we come off slightly better afterwards. With you there is no going anywhere. If you're that unwilling to listen to anything these dust bunnies have to say then that leads to the next question of why should we listen to what you have to say. You are not showing any level of humility or respect and by thinking that '0.0 is dust 514's biggest problem' is what is going to make most dust bunnies not like you at all. Also don't raise your voice, you look like a 5 year old screaming. I would go for the throat but I am not in the mood today.... its not pretty when I do though, so mere ankle biting is all you're getting today.
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion 302	Posted - 2013.02.13 22:19:00 - [88] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I don't know how to put it nicely so I am going to say what most of the folks think of you as. You're an Evetard. This is not a term of endearment, you are nearly been lumped in the same pile of people from eve that would like to see this game fail. Also you're more stubborn than a brick, until you learn on how to get hammered you're never going to fit in. I can have a debate with Noc over AV verses tanks for hours on end and we come off slightly better afterwards. With you there is no going anywhere. If you're that unwilling to listen to anything these dust bunnies have to say then that leads to the next question of why should we listen to what you have to say. You are not showing any level of humility or respect and by thinking that '0.0 is dust 514's biggest problem' is what is going to make most dust bunnies not like you at all. Also don't raise your voice, you look like a 5 year old screaming. I would go for the throat but I am not in the mood today.... its not pretty when I do though, so mere ankle biting is all you're getting today. Not disrespect intended, but I don't think you're reading between the lines when it comes to my platform. I sincerely do not want this game to fail. I want it to thrive. The only way I see that happening is if we integrate the communities and have a voice on the CSM. Why? Because we are a part of New Eden, and segregating ourselves by having our own council, our own 'niche' community, will send this game exactly where so many oother good FPS games and even MMO games have gone. Down the toilet. I don't want to see this fail, if I did... I'd just sit back and let this community do what it's doing, segregation, separation, and develop hatred towards the so-called EVE-overlords that so many have an opinion over. I'm here campaigning for equality, integration, and acceptance, yet each and every step of the way I get hammered from both sides. Don't get me wrong, I expected it, I've written veritable walls of text explaining my positions, convincing others of my opinions, I've booked interviews, attempting to get on podcasts to explain my views. I have an upcoming Interview with Xander Phoena in fact, and hopefully his 'hard-hitting' questions will show you exactly what I'm made of, and how much I want this game to succeed through integration. In addition, I do not believe that 0.0 is DUSTs biggest problem... I seriously do not know where that parody of a quote came from, I believe that DUSTs biggest barrier is the fact that we have only 2 ways of interacting with EVE. Communication, and Orbital Bombardments. That is it. No Wallet sharing, no Rank sharing, Nothing else. And even then, the secondary issue is that EVE players get no real reward (other than saying they did it) for supporting a DUST battle. they have to be in Faction Warfare, in a Destroyer or Frigate, in orbit around a District for around 20-30 minutes, waiting for an Orbital Strike, vul;nerable with the link and OB ammo loaded. Yet they get no rewards? Thosde are the issue I want to address. 0.0 Is an aside, a means of deepening the DUST / EVE link further as in 0.0, there are less binding rules on EVE Players, so should there be on DUST players.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.02.13 23:37:00 - [89] - Quote There is a difference between reading between the lines and picking up vibes... I mean when you came into our channel yesterday and the first words out of your mouth was that eve's problems was dust 514's problems that was more than enough to call you an "Evetard" If you don't know the most serious issues of dust 514 like Hans does you have no right to call yourself 'our' csm representative, an endorsement from hans is the only current csm 7 endorsement I would believe for a dust 514 candidate. While I get called this very infrequently that these days, I can listen and ten argue a good enough point to make the other person back off on my stances. You however just restate casting issues to the side. Also you misunderstand the term Evetard, go do some research it may do you some good. Dust 514 purist came up with it, you should do your best to start trying to understand this community, we're not eve pilots here, we're bloodied, worn, and very angry mercenaries and the bunnies here are nearly as vicious as the vaporal rabbit of monty poython notoriety.
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion 302	Posted - 2013.02.14 00:39:00 - [90] - Quote Quote: 1. evetard 2 up, 1 down people who are addicted to eve when someone talks about eve all the time they are an evetard, also when your friend abandons you yo play eve. buy evetard mugs & shirts eve tard addiction spacegames wookie by plater Aug 9, 2009 share this add a video Reference: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=evetard&defid=4165847 Don't get me wrong, I admire you attempts, but I doubt a DUST 514 Purist coined the term Evetard. And yes, I've known what an Evetard was. Secondly, I'm sure you've heard... Hans isn't running for CSM this session. I don't know his reasons, and frankly, it's his personal choice. I'm not saying that should automatically qualify me to replace him, but I am approaching this election from DUST with EVE Integration. Representing DUST to a community of EVE players, and showing that my platform encompasses the parts of EVE in which I have been, have had ideas, and can contribute beyond the simple scope of DUST DUST DUST. The Black Jackal aka. Hunter Blake



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