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Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.02.14 03:02:00 - [91] - Quote The Black Jackal wrote: Quote: 1. evetard 2 up, 1 down people who are addicted to eve when someone talks about eve all the time they are an evetard, also when your friend abandons you yo play eve. buy evetard mugs & shirts eve tard addiction spacegames wookie by plater Aug 9, 2009 share this add a video Reference: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=evetard&defid=4165847 Don't get me wrong, I admire you attempts, but I doubt a DUST 514 Purist coined the term Evetard. And yes, I've known what an Evetard was. Secondly, I'm sure you've heard... Hans isn't running for CSM this session. I don't know his reasons, and frankly, it's his personal choice. I'm not saying that should automatically qualify me to replace him, but I am approaching this election from DUST with EVE Integration. Representing DUST to a community of EVE players, and showing that my platform encompasses the parts of EVE in which I have been, have had ideas, and can contribute beyond the simple scope of DUST DUST DUST. The Black Jackal aka. Hunter Blake Hans told us a month ago, where you been? Second the dust bunnies did coin their own evetard term, you should not be using urban dictionary for it but these forums but ours if you're going to be trying to even begin to understand us, evetard. Also as a person who been watching the CSM for the last 7 sessions, the idea of a platform is a bit silly. Rarely would a CSM runner could ever possibly run with such or even promise such.
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion 302	Posted - 2013.02.14 10:49:00 - [92] - Quote Proximity chat breeds rivalries - In General Discussions [ Original thread ] ITT: EVEtards not understanding something that isn't concerned with passive skilling or mining space rocks. Business as usual. Carry on. 2012.06.02 01:36 by Forums Veteran Reference: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=121993#post121993 First Recorded instance of EVEtard being used on these forums. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=136667#post136667 Thread containing multiple uses of the term EVEtard. Used to differentiate EVE players playing DUST and MAG players playing DUST... The meaning still remains practically the same. Used to put someone off who 'talks' about EVE all the time. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=136790#post136790 Another thread detailing mutiple EVEtard posts and Quotes. Meaning is still the same. From these examples, and the urban dictionary quote I gave earlier, you still maintain that a DUST 514 Player, first posting said term 3 years AFTER the Urban Dictionary entry 'coined' the term? The Hans comment was directed at the fact that you keep bringing up Hans in the context of the CSM8, and others do to. Hans has done wonderful work, and has earned the respect of many for having a say in getting Factional Warfare to where it is. But why would you continue to quote him as a preferred candidate if he isn't running. FYI, I knew about it months ago listening to an episode of Podside.
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion 302	Posted - 2013.02.14 10:57:00 - [93] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: The Black Jackal wrote: Quote: 1. evetard 2 up, 1 down people who are addicted to eve when someone talks about eve all the time they are an evetard, also when your friend abandons you yo play eve. buy evetard mugs & shirts eve tard addiction spacegames wookie by plater Aug 9, 2009 share this add a video Reference: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=evetard&defid=4165847 Don't get me wrong, I admire you attempts, but I doubt a DUST 514 Purist coined the term Evetard. And yes, I've known what an Evetard was. Secondly, I'm sure you've heard... Hans isn't running for CSM this session. I don't know his reasons, and frankly, it's his personal choice. I'm not saying that should automatically qualify me to replace him, but I am approaching this election from DUST with EVE Integration. Representing DUST to a community of EVE players, and showing that my platform encompasses the parts of EVE in which I have been, have had ideas, and can contribute beyond the simple scope of DUST DUST DUST. The Black Jackal aka. Hunter Blake Hans told us a month ago, where you been? Second the dust bunnies did coin their own evetard term, you should not be using urban dictionary for it but these forums but ours if you're going to be trying to even begin to understand us, evetard. Also as a person who been watching the CSM for the last 7 sessions, the idea of a platform is a bit silly. Rarely would a CSM runner could ever possibly run with such or even promise such. http://www.avalloc.net/?p=1270 <--- CSM Platform for CSM6 http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1466915 <--- Another CSM Platform for CSM6 Platforms are there so people know what you stand for, what you intend to push for, and why they should vote for you. Sometimes these are wild promises, sometimes they are copy and paste ideas of already announced upcoming features, and sometimes, there are platforms that are held as vague outlines. I have presented, expanded upon, and defended my entire posted platform. It is what i want to do, and what I aim to do should I get elected.
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion 302	Posted - 2013.02.15 01:47:00 - [94] - Quote http://c-z.me/csm8hunterblake for those of you interested, above is the link to my CSM8 Interview with Xander Phoena. A prominent podcaster in the EVE Online Community.
Rasputin La'Gar Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 28	Posted - 2013.02.15 08:15:00 - [95] - Quote Jackal, you probably should've at least made alts to be your yes men and make you look good on these forums. You're not only a crappy politician, but a half-assed one that
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion 302	Posted - 2013.02.15 08:31:00 - [96] - Quote Rasputin La'Gar wrote: Jackal, you probably should've at least made alts to be your yes men and make you look good on these forums. You're not only a crappy politician, but a half-assed one that Not sure if you're being funny, or not there. But the last thing I want to be is a politician. Politicians lie, cheat, steal, and promise anything the people want to get into power, or keep power. I want to present my ideas, push for them, push for EVE / DUST integration, and push for a united community. Making alts to make myself look good, just reeks of dishonesty, and if you listen to my partner, she'll tell you I can't lie worth a damn.
Sir Meode Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 317	Posted - 2013.02.15 09:25:00 - [97] - Quote I mean no disrespect to you or any other members of dust running for CSM this early on but you are wasting your time. Until EVE and Dust are fully integrated EVE players will not see any need for a Dust representative. Why would an EVE player vote for a Dust representative when Dust doesn't effect them? Anyone from both communities who is serious about being a Dust CSM member will realise this, and are probably waiting for the egomaniacs to burn them selves out before starting any campaign. I do however think there should be in future seperate CSM for both games but then members from both creating a combined CSM. That way they can help improve both games individualy and as a whole without screwing each others games up.
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion 302	Posted - 2013.02.15 10:30:00 - [98] - Quote Sir Meode wrote: I mean no disrespect to you or any other members of dust running for CSM this early on but you are wasting your time. Until EVE and Dust are fully integrated EVE players will not see any need for a Dust representative. Why would an EVE player vote for a Dust representative when Dust doesn't effect them? Anyone from both communities who is serious about being a Dust CSM member will realise this, and are probably waiting for the egomaniacs to burn them selves out before starting any campaign. I do however think there should be in future seperate CSM for both games but then members from both creating a combined CSM. That way they can help improve both games individualy and as a whole without screwing each others games up. Listen to the interview. There are quite a few people out there looking to support a DUST candidate on the CSM.
Sir Meode Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 317	Posted - 2013.02.15 10:55:00 - [99] - Quote The Black Jackal wrote: Sir Meode wrote: I mean no disrespect to you or any other members of dust running for CSM this early on but you are wasting your time. Until EVE and Dust are fully integrated EVE players will not see any need for a Dust representative. Why would an EVE player vote for a Dust representative when Dust doesn't effect them? Anyone from both communities who is serious about being a Dust CSM member will realise this, and are probably waiting for the egomaniacs to burn them selves out before starting any campaign. I do however think there should be in future seperate CSM for both games but then members from both creating a combined CSM. That way they can help improve both games individualy and as a whole without screwing each others games up. Listen to the interview. There are quite a few people out there looking to support a DUST candidate on the CSM. Define quite a few! 30-40? 100-200? out of thousands of potential votes "quite a few" means nothing and is not going to get any one anywhere.
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion 302	Posted - 2013.02.15 11:16:00 - [100] - Quote Sir Meode wrote: The Black Jackal wrote: Sir Meode wrote: I mean no disrespect to you or any other members of dust running for CSM this early on but you are wasting your time. Until EVE and Dust are fully integrated EVE players will not see any need for a Dust representative. Why would an EVE player vote for a Dust representative when Dust doesn't effect them? Anyone from both communities who is serious about being a Dust CSM member will realise this, and are probably waiting for the egomaniacs to burn them selves out before starting any campaign. I do however think there should be in future seperate CSM for both games but then members from both creating a combined CSM. That way they can help improve both games individualy and as a whole without screwing each others games up. Listen to the interview. There are quite a few people out there looking to support a DUST candidate on the CSM. Define quite a few! 30-40? 100-200? out of thousands of potential votes "quite a few" means nothing and is not going to get any one anywhere. In saying that, would you (whether you have one or not) cast your vote for another candidate who didn't stand for DUST 514? All I hear in the voices of the naysayers is that they've given up. That they have no faith in this game, it's future, and it's sustainability. I have been accused on being selfish, self-centred, personally driven, and evetard. On every side of the fence there has been negativity. I have convinced many of my sincerity, yet for every one I convince, there is another to take their place. Yet do you see me giving in? NO! I, and many others, believe that now IS the time to have a CSM Representative on CSM8. Why? Why now you ask? Because during this term, unless something goes horribly wrong, DUST 514 will likely see some description of release. It will see a deepening of the interaction involved between the two, it will see what sphere's of New Eden it will influence, and what it will not. Some of my ideas may be radical, but I will push them. Not because they are the most popular ideas, not even because they are controversial, but because I believe, in my gut, heart, and head, that DUST will ONLY survive if it is seamlessly integrated into New Eden. Community, communication, warfare, everything. A weapon for EVE Players to wield as an option, but also DUST 514 able to wield EVE Online Capsuleers like a weapon also. Integration, immersion, and interaction. A Larger Universe. And in spite of every negative comment, in the face of what seems to be overwhelming odds, I will continue to fight for DUST's right to be represented NOW. Not some distant future well and truly after release, when our 'privelages' have been decided by EVE Players alone. Now, before such decisions are made. CSM7 Representatives have endorsed the IDEA of a DUST rep, Podcasters, News Artuicles, and so many EVE players have also put forth their opinion that this is something not only viable, but needed. So will you stand, united by a common belief that we deserve recognition? Or will you fold under the weight of oppression, and allow OUR future to be separated from New Eden, decided solely on the basis of how we will benefit EVE Online? Join your voice with so many others, vote for a CSM representative who will represent DUST 514 before EVE Online, but has an understanding of EVE Online deep enough to garner the CSMs respect in spite of his main platform! I am here, wanting to represent you, wanting to represent this community. And with every voice added, the chances of us getting a CSM8 Representative with our interests at heart grows. Do not waste your voice, your vote (if you have one), or your words on repetitive statements that have factual refutal. Vote with your voice, your fingers, and spread the word that DUST will not fade without a fight. And we strive to be a part of New Eden equal to Wormholers, Null Sec Empires, High Sec Missioners. A vote for me, is a Vote for a Larger Universe! The Black Jackal aka. Hunter Blake CSM8 Candidate

Sir Meode Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 317	Posted - 2013.02.15 12:38:00 - [101] - Quote Sorry but you didn't answer my question you just gave me a load of spin. Don't worry I won't waste my vote, It will be given to whoever can give the community the most/best of what they want, not what the candidate wants or believes the game needs. Don't forget the CSM are representatives of the community not people to choose what they want to be in the game.
Guilbert 515 United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 0	Posted - 2013.02.15 12:50:00 - [102] - Quote If i vote for you, can you get me dinosaurs into dust 514? O_o
Tectonious Falcon The Southern Legion 395	Posted - 2013.02.15 12:53:00 - [103] - Quote Guilbert 515 wrote: If i vote for you, can you get me dinosaurs into dust 514? O_o I think you need to research what the CSM is and does.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2283	Posted - 2013.02.15 13:10:00 - [104] - Quote this thread is fail FYI Jackal the loyalty points for dust and "army" gear thing/suggestion wasnt urs each game needs their own because everything the bodies do DOES NOT always have to do with the other game or the link why is that so hard for u to comprehend
NAV HIV The Generals 151	Posted - 2013.02.15 14:12:00 - [105] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: DUST needs its own CSM sorry but this is pointless having one person speak for the entire community DUST and EVE should have seperate CSMs and when there needs to be a discussion on the link between the 2 games the 2 CSMs and CCP can have a sitdown and discuss it simple /csm nomination threads Agreed. I mentioned this a while back and the response was similar. I dont want to play EVE. Not that i have anything against it. I like shooting better. I wont vote for Mr Black Jackal and i gave my reasons in the past. I dont want to answer to EVE players for my actions in Dust. I dont mind paying for DUST, but if i need anything done on Dust i want to discuss that with Dust players and the Dust community. If EvE players need anything from Dust or need to discuss issues, they should come to us, To Dust CSM and so on. I said this few months ago. War? Bring it ....
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion 302	Posted - 2013.02.15 14:32:00 - [106] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: this thread is fail FYI Jackal the loyalty points for dust and "army" gear thing/suggestion wasnt urs each game needs their own because everything the bodies do DOES NOT always have to do with the other game or the link why is that so hard for u to comprehend I understand what you are saying, but as I have also stated. Separating the community is not good for either game. It simply breeds a caste society. EVE Vs. DUST... not EVE and DUST, or not NEW EDEN. You ask me why I cannot comprehend? Why can't you comprehend what I'm getting at? Integration of community, and enhancing interactive gameplay is, in my opinion, the best way to ensure this game has a future beyond that of most FPS games. This is best accomplished, also in my opinion, by a CSM Representative with DUSTs interests at heart. Also as I stated, the CPM has done a great job when it comes to issues specific to this game, but how many 'great' games have vanished from the market. They lacked something, and covering all bases, from a CSM rep, to a possible CPM, ensures the chances of those things going unnoticed is alot less. Again, I encourage you to listen to my interview with Xander, I don't say I'll be the perfect candidate, but I put forth my ideas in all honesty, and how I believe they will impact on the future of this game, and EVE Online.
NAV HIV The Generals 151	Posted - 2013.02.15 14:34:00 - [107] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: this thread is fail FYI Jackal the loyalty points for dust and "army" gear thing/suggestion wasnt urs each game needs their own because everything the bodies do DOES NOT always have to do with the other game or the link why is that so hard for u to comprehend +1
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2283	Posted - 2013.02.15 15:04:00 - [108] - Quote The Black Jackal wrote: Mavado V Noriega wrote: this thread is fail FYI Jackal the loyalty points for dust and "army" gear thing/suggestion wasnt urs each game needs their own because everything the bodies do DOES NOT always have to do with the other game or the link why is that so hard for u to comprehend I understand what you are saying, but as I have also stated. Separating the community is not good for either game. It simply breeds a caste society. EVE Vs. DUST... not EVE and DUST, or not NEW EDEN. You ask me why I cannot comprehend? Why can't you comprehend what I'm getting at? Integration of community, and enhancing interactive gameplay is, in my opinion, the best way to ensure this game has a future beyond that of most FPS games. This is best accomplished, also in my opinion, by a CSM Representative with DUSTs interests at heart. Also as I stated, the CPM has done a great job when it comes to issues specific to this game, but how many 'great' games have vanished from the market. They lacked something, and covering all bases, from a CSM rep, to a possible CPM, ensures the chances of those things going unnoticed is alot less. Again, I encourage you to listen to my interview with Xander, I don't say I'll be the perfect candidate, but I put forth my ideas in all honesty, and how I believe they will impact on the future of this game, and EVE Online. u dont understand how the CSM works then apparently the majority of the things discussed on the CSM wont be ur little dust eve link both games will have their own issues that need to be addressed like balance issues, future expansions etc i listened to ur interview and it did not impress me the DUST community does not know u as a figure head thats been helping the game grow yet u want to represent us? are u srs? honestly this is goin no where ur too close minded in ur own personal agenda to see the pts ppl making. Its either ur way or none apparently, Good luck gettin votes tho i doubt u will ever get on CSM
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion 302	Posted - 2013.02.15 15:09:00 - [109] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: The Black Jackal wrote: Mavado V Noriega wrote: this thread is fail FYI Jackal the loyalty points for dust and "army" gear thing/suggestion wasnt urs each game needs their own because everything the bodies do DOES NOT always have to do with the other game or the link why is that so hard for u to comprehend I understand what you are saying, but as I have also stated. Separating the community is not good for either game. It simply breeds a caste society. EVE Vs. DUST... not EVE and DUST, or not NEW EDEN. You ask me why I cannot comprehend? Why can't you comprehend what I'm getting at? Integration of community, and enhancing interactive gameplay is, in my opinion, the best way to ensure this game has a future beyond that of most FPS games. This is best accomplished, also in my opinion, by a CSM Representative with DUSTs interests at heart. Also as I stated, the CPM has done a great job when it comes to issues specific to this game, but how many 'great' games have vanished from the market. They lacked something, and covering all bases, from a CSM rep, to a possible CPM, ensures the chances of those things going unnoticed is alot less. Again, I encourage you to listen to my interview with Xander, I don't say I'll be the perfect candidate, but I put forth my ideas in all honesty, and how I believe they will impact on the future of this game, and EVE Online. u dont understand how the CSM works then apparently the majority of the things discussed on the CSM wont be ur little dust eve link both games will have their own issues that need to be addressed like balance issues, future expansions etc i listened to ur interview and it did not impress me the DUST community does not know u as a figure head thats been helping the game grow yet u want to represent us? are u srs? honestly this is goin no where ur too close minded in ur own personal agenda to see the pts ppl making. Its either ur way or none apparently, Good luck gettin votes tho i doubt u will ever get on CSM I see the points people are making. I even agree with some of them... but does that mean I should cow before these few who belt me down repeatedly... just let myself 'go with the crowd' and lack conviction in my own platform? This isn't a personal agenda. This is what I believe DUST needs. I do know how the CSM works. Maybe it's you who should brush up on RECENT CSM developments. CSM as a Stakeholder etc. The CSM has grown beyond just a simple advisory board, it now has the ability to directly influence the development of New Eden. I'm simply proposing the next step, that CSM represents New Eden. Which up until now, ONLY included EVE Online Players. This term, we DUST mercs are there as well.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.02.15 15:13:00 - [110] - Quote Wow, if you're buckling under a few individuals, wait until an entire voter block gets onto your rear end.

The Black Jackal The Southern Legion 302	Posted - 2013.02.15 15:15:00 - [111] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Wow, if you're buckling under a few individuals, wait until an entire voter block gets onto your rear end. Ummm... Check your translator again Iron Wolf. I said I am not buckling. Get your information right BEFORE posting. You just seem to succeed in making yourself look foolish. This is the third time you've misread a statement I've made (not misinterpreted). One would begin to think you're illiterate, as well and unreasoned.
Hagintora Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 26	Posted - 2013.02.15 15:34:00 - [112] - Quote The Black Jackal wrote: Ummm... Check your translator again Iron Wolf. I said I am not buckling. Get your information right BEFORE posting. You just seem to succeed in making yourself look foolish. This is the third time you've misread a statement I've made (not misinterpreted). One would begin to think you're illiterate, as well and unreasoned. Why would I want you to represent me? I've enough of the posts to understand what it is you're trying to accomplish, and I have to say that I agree with you. But I don't think you're the right person for the job. When you represent a community, you should respect that community. As a whole, and as the individuals that make it up. Turning to insults to try and make a point is a very poor leadership quality, and shows a complete lack of respect for those inside the community who have opposing views. Even when they show that disrepect to you, and inult you, sinking to that same level only proves that you are ill equipped to represent us in aprofessional manner. I agree that we need to have New Eden, as a whole, represented in the CSM, and not have to segregated councils; but I'm concerned that having someone who is quick to be defensive, quick to judge, and easily slips into slinging insults at his detractors, will do more harm than good for this community.
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion 302	Posted - 2013.02.15 15:38:00 - [113] - Quote Hagintora wrote: The Black Jackal wrote: Ummm... Check your translator again Iron Wolf. I said I am not buckling. Get your information right BEFORE posting. You just seem to succeed in making yourself look foolish. This is the third time you've misread a statement I've made (not misinterpreted). One would begin to think you're illiterate, as well and unreasoned. Why would I want you to represent me? I've enough of the posts to understand what it is you're trying to accomplish, and I have to say that I agree with you. But I don't think you're the right person for the job. When you represent a community, you should respect that community. As a whole, and as the individuals that make it up. Turning to insults to try and make a point is a very poor leadership quality, and shows a complete lack of respect for those inside the community who have opposing views. Even when they show that disrepect to you, and inult you, sinking to that same level only proves that you are ill equipped to represent us in aprofessional manner. I agree that we need to have New Eden, as a whole, represented in the CSM, and not have to segregated councils; but I'm concerned that having someone who is quick to be defensive, quick to judge, and easily slips into slinging insults at his detractors, will do more harm than good for this community. My apologies for slipping to insults, but it does grate on one to be constantly insulted and restrained from not hurling such back. I should have rephrased my replyt o that last message better, but this... attack... by Iron Wolf Saber has been going on for a long while now, and I do not believe, slipping just once in that last post, I was 'quick to insult'. I am fairly certain that has been the only direct insult I have inflicted on Iron Wolf Saber. It's no excuse, and I do apologise immensely for my slip of the tongue.
Hagintora Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 26	Posted - 2013.02.15 16:06:00 - [114] - Quote I've done a quick tally of this thread, and I would estimate that 65-70% of the posts are against Dust being represented in the EVE CSM, and agaisnt your representation in particular. Not to mention the secondary thread being created specifying why you shouldn't represent the Dust community. That is an overwhelming number (1171-1261 of the total post made so far). You say you want to represent us? You have to start by listening to us. The community has spoken, you have have your answer. If you truly wish to do what you claim, then it is time, sir, to ask the Devs to lock this thread. Let the issue subside for now. You have argued/discussed/debated well, but it is time for it to end. You want to represent us, this is the place to start.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2013.02.15 22:43:00 - [115] - Quote The Black Jackal wrote: @slystylz vassar - When is the elections to take place? Generally there is a few weeks during March to vote for your candidates. The CSM7 Results were posted on 2012.03.24 - Who are your running against? Do you know of any one else that is campaigning? Here is a list of everyone currently confirmed as running and campaigning. Ayeson Chendow Decent Chitsa Jason Cipreh Daehan Minhyok Herr Ronin Hunter Blake James315 Malcanis- Mangala Solaris Marc Scaurus Mike Azariah Mino Noud Mynnna Nathan Jameson Night Beagle Ripard Teg Roc Wieler Unforgiven Storm Xenuria - In addition these people are confirmed as NOT running. Alekseyev Karrde Elise Randolph Hans Jagerblitzen Issler Dainze Kelduum Revan Poetic Stanziel Seleene Two Step - What is your EVE avatar? As Stated in the OP, my EVE Avatar is Hunter Blake. I also sign the majority of my posts as The Black jackal aka hunter Blake or vice versa. http://crossingzebras.com/CSM8 Is all your intel this copy/paste?
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion 302	Posted - 2013.02.15 23:46:00 - [116] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: The Black Jackal wrote: @slystylz vassar - When is the elections to take place? Generally there is a few weeks during March to vote for your candidates. The CSM7 Results were posted on 2012.03.24 - Who are your running against? Do you know of any one else that is campaigning? Here is a list of everyone currently confirmed as running and campaigning. Ayeson Chendow Decent Chitsa Jason Cipreh Daehan Minhyok Herr Ronin Hunter Blake James315 Malcanis- Mangala Solaris Marc Scaurus Mike Azariah Mino Noud Mynnna Nathan Jameson Night Beagle Ripard Teg Roc Wieler Unforgiven Storm Xenuria - In addition these people are confirmed as NOT running. Alekseyev Karrde Elise Randolph Hans Jagerblitzen Issler Dainze Kelduum Revan Poetic Stanziel Seleene Two Step - What is your EVE avatar? As Stated in the OP, my EVE Avatar is Hunter Blake. I also sign the majority of my posts as The Black jackal aka hunter Blake or vice versa. http://crossingzebras.com/CSM8 Is all your intel this copy/paste? No, But I was asked for an up to date list of who was and who was not running for CSM8. This is, to my knowledge, the most up to date list on the net.
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion 302	Posted - 2013.02.15 23:51:00 - [117] - Quote Hagintora wrote: I've done a quick tally of this thread, and I would estimate that 65-70% of the posts are against Dust being represented in the EVE CSM, and agaisnt your representation in particular. Not to mention the secondary thread being created specifying why you shouldn't represent the Dust community. That is an overwhelming number (1171-1261 of the total post made so far). You say you want to represent us? You have to start by listening to us. The community has spoken, you have have your answer. If you truly wish to do what you claim, then it is time, sir, to ask the Devs to lock this thread. Let the issue subside for now. You have argued/discussed/debated well, but it is time for it to end. You want to represent us, this is the place to start. And what, may I ask, would you do with the other 35 - 40% who do want this? Shouldn't they be represented? Even in that secondary thread, which is a blatant personal attack on myself, as well as my candidacy, has people voting for the support of a CSM8 Representative representing DUST 514. What of the CSM7 Candidates that endorse having one of the CSM. The EVE Players who also feel that having a DUST 514 Representative would be a great idea. There are many out there. They deserve representation as well as anyone else. And if you'll note, the main bulk of the antagonistic posts have been from a dozen or so aggressors. Some other have voted their support for those posts, but the aggressor factor is actually quite small by comparison.
Darkstar Matari MoG Militia 16	Posted - 2013.02.15 23:58:00 - [118] - Quote I am definitely keen for a combined DUST/EVE Candidate, the fact that Jackal knows his **** on both sides of the fence is a major bonus.
Tiel Syysch Imperfects Negative-Feedback 634	Posted - 2013.02.16 00:12:00 - [119] - Quote The Black Jackal wrote: I understand what you are saying, but as I have also stated. Separating the community is not good for either game. It simply breeds a caste society. EVE Vs. DUST... not EVE and DUST, or not NEW EDEN. It's not separating the community, it's separating the representatives so they can discuss mechanics specific to each game with people who are knowledgeable of said mechanics. People who are representing EVE's community's interests have no reason to influence DUST mechanics, just like the DUST community's representatives shouldn't be influencing various EVE mechanics. It would be nice for them all to have understanding of both games, but there's nothing stopping there being a separate panel for each and them coming together when interactivity is discussed (which will be in the minority of instances of problems and concerns the games are facing). Explain why an EVE player who is representing EVE's community's interests should be responsible for discussing dropsuit role balancing, and why a DUST player who is representing DUST's community's interests should be responsible for discussing SOV and Nullsec warfare, and maybe you'll have a leg to stand on.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.02.16 00:41:00 - [120] - Quote Darkstar Matari wrote: I am definitely keen for a combined DUST/EVE Candidate, the fact that Jackal knows his **** on both sides of the fence is a major bonus. He doesn't know jack nothing on either side of the fence, that's the biggest problem. Also its not a thing of jealousy, you don't get jealous of people who are much lower on the ladder.



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