You should stop before your actions start hurting Jackal's chances at CSM. I've already quoted you and posted on his thread that you don't want him as CSM.

I would comment but this line of questioning only serves to distract from a far more important issue why do you mr sota and the wider alliance of the imperfects actively defend people who express disgusting racist and homophobic views on the dust514 forums?

And isn't it true your sudden interest in harming jackals campaign is related to threats made in a thread where you have tried to claim victim status after the community took offense to your actions in defense of a racist?



Isn't it also true that until you needed a scape goat to divert attention from you and your alliance you supported Jackals campaign?

You're off topic questioning me or the imperfects. Let's get back on topic. Jackal's corp has no interest in helping DUST514 and offers no defense when persecuted. This effects his candidacy. Do you not agree?

Even the scum known as the Imps defend there own when they feel it is right. Why the side steps in Jackal's defense?

And for the record - I support him for CSM. I'm all for ANY representation at this point - ignorant as I am of the EvE side.

Today I am not here to defend Jackals campaign for CSM, simply here to respond to being taken out of context by someone with an agenda, who only questions jackals campaign after trying to silence people who take issue with racism and homophobia with threats.

Congratulations, you're no longer being taken seriously with that statement.

Today I am not here to defend Jackals campaign for CSM, simply here to respond to being taken out of context by someone with an agenda, who only questions jackals campaign after trying to silence people who take issue with racism and homophobia with threats.

Forgive me if I do not care that the self appointed leader of the dust community doesn't take me seriously.

Motive or not you gave me reason to come in here and question Jackals. Are you not of his corp? Do your opinions not represent your whole corp like everyone tells me mine does with Imps? Double Standards, much?

I guess I've made my point here. Wish you the best of luck Jackal's. Sorry I had to bring this in here to prove a point. You have my vote which doesn't count without an EvE account lol

The only point you have proven is that you'd rather use coercion and attack a third party than apologize for defending the indefensible.

Either way further proof Jackal has no idea what this community is.

The only point you have proven is that you'd rather use coercion and attack a third party than apologize for defending the indefensible.

Its good to see just how much proof you need to make statements like that, absolutely none, Jackal and I disagree on a lot of things, perhaps he sees you as a community leader, personally I just think you have an inflated ego because know how to log into an IRC channel.

I'm sorry - why do you keep bringing up subjects unrelated to this matter? Our personal qualms have nothing to do with your statements that give bad light to Black Jackal's candidacy.

And I have to ask now - is it a policy of Southern Legion to force people to apologize for believing in things that the rest of your corp doesn't believe in?

You brought it here after using it as a threat in an attempt to silence people that have a problem with racism and homophobia.

I don't speak for southern legion but I am fairly sure that we would not tolerate members making racist/homophobic statements, I for one would be at the forefront of apologizing for their actions and first inline asking for their immediate dismissal.

I am more than happy to keep this discussion in the place where it started.

You brought it here after using it as a threat in an attempt to silence people that have a problem with racism and homophobia.

I don't speak for southern legion but I am fairly sure that we would not tolerate members making racist/homophobic statements, I for one would be at the forefront of apologizing for their actions and first inline asking for their immediate dismissal.

I am more than happy to keep this discussion in the place where it started.

So... you're calling Black Jackal a Homosexual? ... I'm confused. I thought I was supposed to be calling him that yet so far I haven't nor as anyone else for that matter other than you.

Not sure who is having delusions here.

I mean if he's gay, fine by me as long as he respects my right to remain straight, comes with the territory of being a fur ball after all.

Let me clear this miss-understanding for you since you won't let it go.

You told me in another thread that for defending someones right to speech I was basically undeserving of your respect. You then continued in a different thread to say that regardless of intent of peoples words - they shouldn't be said and are taken for face value.

So I took your logic and applied it here and you call it an attack on Black Jackals. Which - it is. No doubt. But it is possible thanks to your help and logic.

Any comments? You really shouldn't be saying things and expecting a double standard for yourself.

There is no double standard here, only a desperate attempt to avoid the real issue in the other thread.

There is only one person trying to derail this topic and that's you, it started with you and i'll let you have the last word so it can end with you, you've issued an apology as terrible as it is, its about the best I expect from you so i'm going to take it and move on.

There is only one person trying to derail this topic and that's you, it started with you and i'll let you have the last word so it can end with you, you've issued an apology as terrible as it is, its about the best I expect from you so i'm going to take it and move on.

I want jackal on the CSM

Now you can't use the "his own corp doesn't want him" card :P

You are pathetic and anyone that reads from where this started will see through your attempts at misleading them.

What? I'm sorry, i've remained on topic which is called "CSM8 - A Vote for a Larger Universe" and it's about Black Jackals and his candidacy. You, on the other hand, won't stop talking about other threads. So how can you say I'm not on topic when I've done nothing but speak of the topic while you're going off about another thread?

Jackal's, if this is how your corp is handling PR I am not impressed. It's bad enough I never see you anywhere at all even when I'm awake on aussie times - it's worse when your own corp trashes you - gets called out - then blames another thread pretending they didn't do anything.

What? I'm sorry, i've remained on topic which is called "CSM8 - A Vote for a Larger Universe" and it's about Black Jackals and his candidacy. You, on the other hand, won't stop talking about other threads. So how can you say I'm not on topic when I've done nothing but speak of the topic while you're going off about another thread?

Jackal's, if this is how your corp is handling PR I am not impressed. It's bad enough I never see you anywhere at all even when I'm awake on aussie times - it's worse when your own corp trashes you - gets called out - then blames another thread pretending they didn't do anything.

Tips on PR coming from your alliance

I would like to point out Beld didn't trash Jackal. He simply stated his own opinion, that he didn't want Jackal n the CSM as it would give him less time to focus on the corp. It had nothing to do with Jackal being a bad representative.

If Beld said that he didn't want jackal as a CSM member because he thought his representation on the CSM would have a negative effect, that would be a different matter.