Dexter Peabody
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Posted - 2013.03.04 00:05:00 -
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The Black Jackal wrote:The question is not 'do we have enough content to warrant a CSM Rep' it is, do we have enough people. Even if what you say is true, and we take you 100k figure of a community. How many EVE Players have multiple accounts? I know plenty who have 2, many who have 3, and some who have 5 or more. We'll average that at 3 Accounts per player. So in essence, the 500k 'Active' Subscriptions for EVE Online boils down to roughly 125,000 People actually playing.
Now break it down further and say that 50% of them live in Nullsec, thats 62,500 people who have a candidate or multiples. 25% live in High sec, 31,250 who have a candidate or 2. 15% live in Wormholes, 10% in Faction Warfare. (NOTE: THese are not real values.)
You're SMALLEST community by these numbers is 12,500 Players... and THEY have a Representative on the CSM.
We have a large amount of content coming for release. And beyond that, we will impact (we already are to a small degree) New Eden. The size of our community, and the fact we are now (even in Beta) a part of the community shows us that we need representation now.
It may not be 'required' but nor is a nullsec candidate, faction warfare candidate, nor a CSM in general. But it's there to provide feedback, community views, and opinions to CCP developers, so that they can tailor the next series of updates, expansions, and gameplay elements to suit the people more, and keep factions within the game happy.
I'm well aware of DUSTs inability to vote, but they still need representation within the Universe that is EVE Online. I, too, completely make up numbers on the fly to support a bad argument.
The only purpose a DUST rep would have on the CSM is to develop the EVE-Dust link on the EVE side. Your interaction with CCP on Dust development would be extremely minimal, and your voice on EVE issues (which would be the overwhelming majority of time spent) would be better utilized by subject experts who do a specific thing.
You do have a voice on the EVE Universe, it's called the forums. The nature of the CSM and what they deal with are exclusive from DUST. If CCP wants to form an advisory board for us, that's an entirely different issue.
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Dexter Peabody
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Posted - 2013.03.04 00:23:00 -
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The Black Jackal wrote:Dexter Peabody wrote:The Black Jackal wrote:The question is not 'do we have enough content to warrant a CSM Rep' it is, do we have enough people. Even if what you say is true, and we take you 100k figure of a community. How many EVE Players have multiple accounts? I know plenty who have 2, many who have 3, and some who have 5 or more. We'll average that at 3 Accounts per player. So in essence, the 500k 'Active' Subscriptions for EVE Online boils down to roughly 125,000 People actually playing.
Now break it down further and say that 50% of them live in Nullsec, thats 62,500 people who have a candidate or multiples. 25% live in High sec, 31,250 who have a candidate or 2. 15% live in Wormholes, 10% in Faction Warfare. (NOTE: THese are not real values.)
You're SMALLEST community by these numbers is 12,500 Players... and THEY have a Representative on the CSM.
We have a large amount of content coming for release. And beyond that, we will impact (we already are to a small degree) New Eden. The size of our community, and the fact we are now (even in Beta) a part of the community shows us that we need representation now.
It may not be 'required' but nor is a nullsec candidate, faction warfare candidate, nor a CSM in general. But it's there to provide feedback, community views, and opinions to CCP developers, so that they can tailor the next series of updates, expansions, and gameplay elements to suit the people more, and keep factions within the game happy.
I'm well aware of DUSTs inability to vote, but they still need representation within the Universe that is EVE Online. I, too, completely make up numbers on the fly to support a bad argument. The only purpose a DUST rep would have on the CSM is to develop the EVE-Dust link on the EVE side. Your interaction with CCP on Dust development would be extremely minimal, and your voice on EVE issues (which would be the overwhelming majority of time spent) would be better utilized by subject experts who do a specific thing. You do have a voice on the EVE Universe, it's called the forums. The nature of the CSM and what they deal with are exclusive from DUST. If CCP wants to form an advisory board for us, that's an entirely different issue. I reiterated his figures that were 'made up' and used the same math he did as rough outline. The ideal is still the same. The CSM doesn't always deal with Wormholes, but they have a Representative, nor always with Faction Warfare. I play EVE, I have a fair amount of knowledge pertaining to EVE, as CSM candidates are aware of the areas beyond their 'specialist' fields. By choosing to represent DUST 514, I have chosen a facet of NEW EDEN in the same way a wormhole candidate has done so, or a action Warfare Candidate has done so. As to the link issue, this is a MAJOR part of DUST 514. The link is the basis around which this entire game was formed. It is a FPS MMO that LINKS with EVE Online. That was, and still is, one of the major selling points this game holds central. So having someone there, on the CSM, who wants to represent THAT LINK, is more important during this period of development because of that central focus. No, it's not a major element. It's a selling point. They need to finish developing the game because the majority of the Dust framework does not have a link to EVE and that's the stuff they need to work on before they add any more meaningful links. Blasting nerds from orbit is cool, but they don't really need a dude from Dust to say that.
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