Mag had the perfect amount of health and movement speed. You could turn on a scrub that is camping and win the gunfight if he sucks. I hate CoD style camping games where who ever sees the other person first wins. That takes no skill. You outsmarted the other person by hiding in a corner but does that doesn't make you better.

the gunplay is one of the main reasons i played MAG it worked and made it fun. I put up with all the Zipper crap, the lag and the freezing because the gunplay made it fun.

Mag had the perfect amount of health and movement speed. You could turn on a scrub that is camping and win the gunfight if he sucks. I hate CoD style camping games where who ever sees the other person first wins. That takes no skill. You outsmarted the other person by hiding in a corner but does that doesn't make you better.

Not hating on you for the cod comment, I hate COD and campers in general, however camping is a valid military tactic no matter how much it irritates you. It's not outsmarting people to camp, but it is punishing people who aren't careful to avoid open areas and wandering around without looking around. In fact sniping is nothing but camp-move-camp-move-etc.

Also, this game isn't as balanced as MAG because MAG didn't have the same system of gear and skills that this game has. You cannot expect this game to balance the same unless they entirely remove the different tiers of dropsuits and just have one of each type that basically would equate to perks in COD. Heavy would be damage resistant and slow, scout would be fast and weak, logistics would be somewhat weak, somewhat fast, and allow you to carry more items, and assault would be somewhat damage resistant and somewhat slower.

Not hating on you for the cod comment, I hate COD and campers in general, however camping is a valid military tactic no matter how much it irritates you. It's not outsmarting people to camp, but it is punishing people who aren't careful to avoid open areas and wandering around without looking around. In fact sniping is nothing but camp-move-camp-move-etc.

Also, this game isn't as balanced as MAG because MAG didn't have the same system of gear and skills that this game has. You cannot expect this game to balance the same unless they entirely remove the different tiers of dropsuits and just have one of each type that basically would equate to perks in COD. Heavy would be damage resistant and slow, scout would be fast and weak, logistics would be somewhat weak, somewhat fast, and allow you to carry more items, and assault would be somewhat damage resistant and somewhat slower.

here's another spin on it. Keyboard or Dualshock for most of you?

I know its a legit tactic. I get drunk with my friends and play CoD occasionally. A certain amount of finesse is needed to play CoD. You have to somewhat camp and control the map/spawns. The people that just sit in one corner all game is pretty weak and actually makes for some really boring gameplay imho. There are ways to eliminate camping in fps though. Or at least limit its effectiveness.

I don't want a spin and strafe game. I do want enough movement and health to be able to turn on a camping scrub and kill them. I don't think that's asking to much. We have the health for it. We just need the movement speed to make this game more competitive.

I have no issue with what you are wanting from the game, but in order for the game to be playable in that way the health for each class of dropsuit and damage for each type of gun has to be set and not tiered. Maybe a few different types of the same weapon, the more expensive ones with the least recoil and spread, but still not separated by huge jumps like these. If it's gonna be balanced like MAG it needs damage/health balance as well as a balance between movement and health.

That said, I think movement needs to be fixed to be based on the type of weapon you have equipped. Strafe and movement speed is faster for lighter weapons and slower for heavier ones. For the movement control and feel, MAG is definitely a great spring board for this game to start at, but even the MAG control needed a few small tweaks. I doubt we can convince CCP to use MAG's movement specs however.

Also, going prone. I've mentioned it many times, but it needs to be said. Make it a slow animation and prevent firing during the animation so it's only used strategically, but prone is needed. I get popped all the time over the top of a rail I'm taking cover behind by people who are just high enough to see the top of my head. I can't stand and run away fast enough, and I can't go prone to avoid enemy fire, so I'm taken out while reloading behind cover. Is it really cover if you can't go prone to take full advantage of it?

-Damage drops off dramatically over short distances
-Analog stick sensitivity drops dramatically when you're sprinting which makes it difficult to aim and makes you feel sluggish.
-Maps are extremely open, featureless almost boring, terrain is poor for good gunplay.
-There can never really be true balance with the health mods/damage mods and such.
-Also general lag caused by poor framerate/unresponsive UI which may never be fixed it seems.

I think a small increase in overall speed would definitely benefit combat, removing the deadzone from controls and alliwing much more finite control over them. Don't increase the strafe speed to pre codex levels however some gameplay balancing can be worked in with stamina like allow a faster strafe that consumes stamina, crimbing those slopes could consume stamina etc that all fits to affect gameplay a bit more.

However the difference in damage between different weapons and between HP could be tweaked around a bit to be slight more balanced within the same tier.

So a bit faster movement speed overall but keep the comparison between everything. The same as now, finite gun control, tweak the damage to hp comparison(I want to be able to tell wether I'm going up against a HP buffed assault or a different module focus.

I don't want halo like combat so aviod that, decreases in accuracy when just spraying, decrease when excessively hipfiring, decrease when airborne.

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4: I think both the Tactical AR and the Breach AR need a good looking at. Anyone else here played Mass effect 3? To me if you've played ME3, you know what the Mattock, and Saber are. Those are both single shot, semi auto high damage guns. Both have improved scoping over the regular AR's. As of right now, the Tactical AR is completely borked, it does more damage than the Breach yet currently fires as fast as the assault, which it shouldn't do. That needs to be fixed. My other thing is the tactical needs slightly more damage for being single shot, in exchange make the clip size smaller. Breach rifles could probably use a mildy faster ROF, or much less spread due to reduced firing rate.

Just gotta say, some people talking about camping.
There is a diffrence between camping and defending.

Camping= hiding in a bush, under a vehicle, behind a one way mirror type wall.

Defending= picking a spot, staying nearby covering bottlenecks and hitting people in your FOV

Also i dont like COD. First MW was good. Then just went downhill from there

fine line behind camping and defending, but ultimately your missing the part where defending is objective based and helps the team and actually sometimes shows good discipline, camping is done oneself and in secluded areas 1 way in, 1 way out areas.