Yesterday I testes the comuncation beween EVE and DUST.
Why the f*ck do I must pay for voice chat? I'm really confused.

You think I am trolling, well sorry to disappoint you I am not.
It's easy to say that everyone that disagree a is troll; it very, very easy.
PS+ players and journalists that don't find Dust good are not trolls: they are people and not idiots.

Many people here stay regardless of the insults they get, the personal attacks, or if they find the game funny or not and that's because they want to help: this is true testing.
Sadly for you my, our, way to help is to talk about what's is wrong in Dust 514 and not praise it regardless of the its state.

while i agree with what i think your saying you should take the mic out of your pants and stop TESTES them.

Guys when Dust starts there will be:

PVE (drone regions or/and probably wormhole exploration)- for those who likes some kinde of mobs or lone wolf play

PVP in high sec space / low sec space (factional warfare) for guys who wan't a pvp with meaning but not to deep ;)

PVP in null sec. Some kind of deepest gameplay for hadcore gamers. Close integration to EVE players

PVP like today in beta but with more customization /game mods / maps for casual players.

Some big events in EVE/DUST engaging a lot of players

IT'S FREE :)

Explain me how this model could fail? Ofcourse when all technical stuff will work well not like today.

^^^
We all hate that as if Pay to Win wasn't enough.
Having to pay to communicate is going to create problems especially when Dust is advertised as a F2P.

BECAUSE THE MOTHERFUCKING GAMEPLAY SUCKS ! THAT IS WHY! Shooting people in Dust is not fun, there is something horribly about the mechanics. Until CCP figures this out they can add as much depth and complexity as they want, the game will not succeed except with a few thousand people grinding online for the next best item...

Somebody had to say it!

Part of what we're here for. Keep posting criticism and improvement suggestions, and it'll get better as we go along. Yeah, this patch was kind of a setback from a gameplay standpoint, but there's plenty of time to turn it back around and make more improvements.

About the mechanics. Yes there is something wrong. I can't say what it is. Its just feels blunt, playing the game does not feel cocnnectet, its like we play in a viscous atmosphere where every thing is wrapped. Yesterday I played a little Killzone2. I remember this game as a "boring-action" but playing it after I use to Dust this game (Killzone2) feels like a manifestation.
My curiosity force me to put BF3 back in to the PS3 and holyf*ck, let me tell you it feels so great.
Yes the game mechanic needs a lot more improvement. I'm not talking about the concept, this posting is dedicated only to the feeling of the mechanic.

I'm still trying to figure out whether this game is more P2W, or more G(rind)2W. P2C(hat) runs along the lines of being a big portion of ccp's P2W philosophy, since in the grand scheme of things communication with EvE players will be extremely vital to WINNING

MIlitia gear does plenty in the hands of a good player.
Buying a SP booster helps you get SP 1,5 times faster, but still requires you to actually grind the SP.
Level up Weapons 5 and Your Chosen Weapon 5 and you can do good damage already.

I'm an average player tops (K/D ratio at about 0.8) and don't feel I would gain too much by burning AUR for gear.

Do you actually feel one is able to manage positive K/D ratio right off the bat, by burning AUR?

average is 1.5 good is 2.0 great is anything above a 3.0

Dust isn't COD competitor - it's an alternative.

The OP here sums up exactly what I have been trying to get across on these forums since joining last week.

I play a variety of FPS's with a bunch of PSN friends (roughly 14-15 guys). All of them have access to the Dust beta and each and every one of them thinks the game is a complete disaster. They have completely lost interest in it and most likely will NEVER bother with it again.

"LOLZ THEY CAN GO BACK TO COD AMIRITE?". Wrong. Dust needs a big population of players all buying things to keep it alive.

These guys play Battlefield, CoD, Ghost Recon, Counter Strike and others, night after night. They aren't dumb, clueless gamers. They know what makes a FPS work, what makes it addictive and most of all FUN.

Put simply, it's the GUN and how it feels. The feedback you get from firing it. The thrill of taking down the an enemy, of racking up kills, of holding an objective point. The SOUND. Tactile and aural feedback via the controller and the TV screen. The GUN IS YOUR CHARACTER in an FPS. That's why players love to customise, get attached to and even make Youtube videos detailing pros and cons of weapons. CoD: Black Ops let you put your emblem and clan tag on the gun. Do you think these additions are accidental? No, they aren't. Every CoD game lets you add attachments, launchers, camos, color schemes. In BF3 you unlock things as you use your weapon more. Are these additions accidental? WHY ARE THEY BEING ADDED?

Because FPS players identify the on screen gun as being THEIR character.

Dust doesn't have any of this and after searching menus and options I don't see anywhere this will be implemented at launch.

Every AR looks the same and sounds the same thus far. They have the most hideous ADS view I've ever seen in an FPS. The weapon sounds are so poor it's unbelievable. When you get a kill, you hear what sounds like a windows error message. It's a sub par shooting experience. It's as simple as that. NO ONE is going to play this game for RPG elements.

I am losing my faith in the intelligence of the community while reading this topic. Couple sentences that stuck out to me.

"80% of shots don't register." Someone can't aim. Im just saying.
"Average is the top 10% of players?" If it's the top 10% then it isn't average.

Also any sentence saying COD or BF3 are what FPS games should be like. I don't want to play those anymore. I've played those all I ever care to play them, people who play this want something different. I don't care about putting a clan symbol on the side of my damn weapon, when that becomes important I have to ask if you are like 8 years old. That's fu ck ing stupid.

Also, everyone needs to remember it's BETA and has alot of stuff that needs to be fixed. Im sure CCP is aware of it, because it's posted on the forums every single day.

Personally, I like the game for the fact it doesn't play like COD or BF3 or any other shooter Ive played in a long time. There seems to be less of those retards bunny hopping all over the place, which is ineffective and quite funny to watch them die when they could have been actually shooting someone accurately. The skill system rewards reading, if you can put the skills together to be effective, to me you deserve it for not reading what you're training. Im enjoying watching the Lottery Tank drivers Ive been seeing the last week get blown up in 2-3 shots cause they ain't train any kind of defense skills. Oh and it's a teamwork type game, which beats a lone wolf game any day of the week.

I say if you don't like the game, can't adapt and overcome, or can't figure it out, go play something simpler, COD BF3 MOH or perhaps a nice easy game of Viva Pinata, something more suited to your particular talents, but please stop trying to get a game alot of us enjoy made simpler because it's too complex for that brain of yours to understand.

Once again, in EVE and DUST everyone is NOT created equal.

I am losing my faith in the intelligence of the community while reading this topic. Couple sentences that stuck out to me.

"80% of shots don't register." Someone can't aim. Im just saying.
"Average is the top 10% of players?" If it's the top 10% then it isn't average.

Also any sentence saying COD or BF3 are what FPS games should be like. I don't want to play those anymore. I've played those all I ever care to play them, people who play this want something different. I don't care about putting a clan symbol on the side of my damn weapon, when that becomes important I have to ask if you are like 8 years old. That's fu ck ing stupid.

Also, everyone needs to remember it's BETA and has alot of stuff that needs to be fixed. Im sure CCP is aware of it, because it's posted on the forums every single day.

Personally, I like the game for the fact it doesn't play like COD or BF3 or any other shooter Ive played in a long time. There seems to be less of those retards bunny hopping all over the place, which is ineffective and quite funny to watch them die when they could have been actually shooting someone accurately. The skill system rewards reading, if you can put the skills together to be effective, to me you deserve it for not reading what you're training. Im enjoying watching the Lottery Tank drivers Ive been seeing the last week get blown up in 2-3 shots cause they ain't train any kind of defense skills. Oh and it's a teamwork type game, which beats a lone wolf game any day of the week.

I say if you don't like the game, can't adapt and overcome, or can't figure it out, go play something simpler, COD BF3 MOH or perhaps a nice easy game of Viva Pinata, something more suited to your particular talents, but please stop trying to get a game alot of us enjoy made simpler because it's too complex for that brain of yours to understand.

Once again, in EVE and DUST everyone is NOT created equal.

if anything, you should be investigation your own intelligence because you've completely missed the point of my post. I mean, you couldn't actually get further away if you tried.

YOU might not care about the things I posted about but the VAST majority of FPS gamers DO.

Dust will need A LOT of players purchasing vanity items to survive. If it doesn't have the player base it will die off.

Do you get it now?

It's not what you or I want for the game, it's what sells. It's what keeps gamers coming back, night after night. No one I know wants to play Dust right now.

Why do you think that is?

if anything, you should be investigation your own intelligence because you've completely missed the point of my post. I mean, you couldn't actually get further away if you tried.

YOU might not care about the things I posted about but the VAST majority of FPS gamers DO.

Dust will need A LOT of players purchasing vanity items to survive. If it doesn't have the player base it will die off.

Do you get it now?

It's not what you or I want for the game, it's what sells. It's what keeps gamers coming back, night after night. No one I know wants to play Dust right now.

Why do you think that is?

it would be better if ccp actually interacted more with the testers . and don't give me they are busy with the game because if they where that busy . it would be less buggy and they would want more input . as it stands i was enjoying it because it seemed to be active towards the testers and fans . but now i see its just like any other DEV team they don't check in they don't talk they hand out what they think is good and ignore what the testers tell them.

if thats how this keeps going its going to fail. and if it keeps going like that it should fail. because it will be another train wreck , just like bf3 just like black ops just like mass effect 3 sad and broken
howling in the gutter like the rest of the trash.

(yes its harsh but its not like the DEVS are reading this lols . and if they are speak up we want you to talk to us, it seems you have forgotten us all anyway . ) if you interacted daily then this would be a much better game. still is a good game though but it has no life to it just kinda "meh"

actually seeing the elitist your all stupid because you cannot play this game comment

its going to fail. people don't like dic*(KITTENS) . .

Why should they ease you into DUST? No one eases you into EVE. What's with everyone wanting someone else to hold their damn hand all the time. Sit down and read, use some of those skills you learned in Elementary school. Read, you know, top to bottom left to right, a group of words makes a sentence. And comprehend what you're reading. That'll help immensely in improving some of the horrid KDRs ive seen.

The 1.5kdr being average is bullshit btw. If 1.5 was average you wouldn't have anyone dying because everyone is killing 1 1/2 people before they die. 1.0 is average, it means you killed someone and then you died.

Second everyone is bitching about hit detection. Maybe Im special because I get ****** over every night with damn Invalids, but I don't have hit detection issues. Am I just better than everyone else? I don't think I am, I don't even consider myself a good player, Im decent but I do know how to aim, and I don't have the hit detection problems everyone seems to be bitching about. And definitely not at 80% of my shots not registering. You cross-eyed or something? Pauly already told you to hit the one in the middle Rock.

And someone said something about BF3 Unlocking everything wasn't pay to win cause it doesn't make you better etc etc. Well Ill agree, someone pays money to unlock stuff and save time. If I buy the booster, Im not paying to win, Im paying to save myself time. Ill train 1.5x faster than you, which means Ill max all my skills out before you, which at the end of the day is the same thing in BF3. I don't want to wait to open up all the **** for the chopper, Ill just pay for it. Well, I don't want to wait 6 months to get everything trained for my tank, so Ill pay for it and do it in 4. Same idea, try again. Also, maybe I don't have 24 hours a day to sit and grind and make SP, so I use the boost to keep up with the curve. No harm No foul. It won't matter anyway, if you can't READ the skills, figure out how they work together, and train accordingly, you'll still get killed by people who can, regardless of gear or SP boosts or anything else.