I do have this to say. If any of you have been to the eve forums to look. There is a vocal minority hoping that this game fails. Some of them are coming up with ways to try to drive you off. Yes it's not CoD or not super polished etc. I get that.....however, by hoping in. Saying the game is complete crap because it's beta etc. And that they need to make it more like CoD, BF or something. Well you're just proving the naysayers that don't like you, don't even want you here or even affecting "their" game, and that think you're all 12 years old with a "I want it NOW NOW NOW" complex completely right. So you want those people to win? I certainly wouldn't. I'd do my damndest to prove them wrong and make them scream in bloody rage when it turns out they were full of fedo dung.

Wrong

Its just that i have alot of patience, i put up with MAG for long enough which had problems AFTER RELEASE just like BF3 has tbh except the difference is this is in BETA still and has yet to even come out of closed beta or even have a set release date plus i have more confidence in CCP

I think the vast majority of the problems with the game can easily be chalked up to this still being a 'closed' beta. I use the term closed loosely because so many people can easily get access to it. That being said, its got its problems, and I think the biggest one is the difficulty in navigating your way through the game, which could be a big turn off, especially for console players.

As unfortunate as it is console players, for the most part from my experience, want and expect to be able to pick up a game and immediately start playing, with just a bit of character customization. Dust has that, but it just doesn't feel fluid. The game has a major social aspect but its a pain to figure out you actually have to turn voice chat on first and select team/squad as the setting. Its easier now than it was in previous builds but it is still to much work. Voice should be on, regardless of the situation, and turning it off the option.

Took a bit for me to figure out today how to leave a squad I created and once in that squad I couldn't see incoming invites to another squad... I had to click my own name to leave the squad. There's something wrong with that and it is going to push people away.

Like many others in this thread I'm doing what I can to defend the game because it has so much potential. That being said, I can't cover up the obvious issues it has. For those of you who say anyone that doesn't have the patience to figure it out can just leave, your shooting yourself in the foot. The idea should not be to make the game so difficult to get into that no one want to find out what its worth, but rather teach them, show them a bit, and make them want to see how deep it goes as they learn and progress. You build a community that way.

MAG was a great game, but had some problems, and its difficulty without aid to players at its start pushed a lot of people away, and where is it now? Dust 514 has a crapload of problems right now and is EXTREMELY difficult for the uneducated ... where do you think it will end up?

I hope for the best and I'll continue to defend it and try and educate friends but I won't be surprised if we don't see big changes if it doesn't amount to anything.

i think many people are underestimating the power of a game costing nothing. many people who own a ps3 will try it simply because it's there. if a fraction of them decide its fun and stick around that's going to be a pretty good chunk of people streaming in well after launch. the world will also be dynamic so every time you log on to play you get something different without having to drop money on a map pack. that alone will get people to at least try the game and will get a few folks to stick around

and aside from obvious bugs with hit detection i also wouldn't think of the gunplay as terribly sub par. it does feel incredibly different than other shooters i've played - but i like the fact it feels different and i'm sure there are quite a few who agree with me on that, and there is only room for improvement as new features, weapons and items get added bringing many new strategies and aspects with them.

not everyone needs to play the same game. i'm ok with dust not toppling cod as king of console shooters.

p.s. stating what bugs and specific issues you have with the game is great for everyone. posting non-stop about how the game is sub-par and it's going to fail without giving specifics is getting old.

Shotgun never worked in MAG regis, i should know i used it for long enough and it got nerfed so it became a AR game


As for this thread lolworthy tbh

Agreed shotgun never works... http://youtu.be/tUsLfILrJW0 ..... http://youtu.be/zFEZLHhy-Lc ..... http://youtu.be/mTpc8QDTyCo
i'll just leave those there.

MIlitia gear does plenty in the hands of a good player.
Buying a SP booster helps you get SP 1,5 times faster, but still requires you to actually grind the SP.
Level up Weapons 5 and Your Chosen Weapon 5 and you can do good damage already.

I'm an average player tops (K/D ratio at about 0.8) and don't feel I would gain too much by burning AUR for gear.

Do you actually feel one is able to manage positive K/D ratio right off the bat, by burning AUR?