DUST Search - Conversation with a friend about his first day

RankRancid wrote:

Shogen Shu wrote:

I don't like it that this game for me to play it with a keyboard to stand a fair chance against other players who used keyboard.
Personally, i don't play this game any longer, just watching the beta forum now and then.
Don't get my wrong, i like the deep and hardcore idea of this game, but I'm a console gamer, and as a console gamer i like sitting in my easy chair drinking coffee or beer (depending on time and weekend day)and playing it with a game-pad. I Did try this new build of Dust and i was shocked of how much i suck at it, and i play a fuckload of first person shooters on the console, so my aim is very very well with the pad. I use to win every 2nd "duel" in gun play and now its may be ever 5th.

Please spare me the "this is not CoD bla bla, use a vehicle bla bla, ltp bla bla" i know what i want, and i want it to be fair.
And for a game to be fair, every one needs to have a initial situation, all pay with pad, or all play with keyboard.

I use a red DS3 with orb extended triggers and analogue rubber grips. No turbo triggers and zero dropshot buttons.

That is a standard DS3 controller except for colour and orb add-on.

Have not used a mouse and keyboard to game in over 3 years. I way prefer the comfort of my lounge suit than my office chair.

I have platted more than 20 games ranging from 3ps,fps,rpg,racing and even an old genisis arcade simulator. I have platted vanquish also which has a difficulty rating of 9.9 I think.

Maybe I'm slightly more used to the DS3 controller than others. Have not even noticed in game if someone is using a keyboard and mouse yet.


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Shogen Shu Algintal Core Gallente Federation 23	Posted - 2012.08.28 09:48:00 - [1] - Quote I don't like it that this game for me to play it with a keyboard to stand a fair chance against other players who used keyboard. Personally, i don't play this game any longer, just watching the beta forum now and then. Don't get my wrong, i like the deep and hardcore idea of this game, but I'm a console gamer, and as a console gamer i like sitting in my easy chair drinking coffee or beer (depending on time and weekend day)and playing it with a game-pad. I Did try this new build of Dust and i was shocked of how much i suck at it, and i play a fuckload of first person shooters on the console, so my aim is very very well with the pad. I use to win every 2nd "duel" in gun play and now its may be ever 5th. Please spare me the "this is not CoD bla bla, use a vehicle bla bla, ltp bla bla" i know what i want, and i want it to be fair. And for a game to be fair, every one needs to have a initial situation, all pay with pad, or all play with keyboard.
Shogen Shu Algintal Core Gallente Federation 23	Posted - 2012.08.28 11:28:00 - [2] - Quote Vane KoS wrote: Shogen Shu wrote: I don't like it that this game for me to play it with a keyboard to stand a fair chance against other players who used keyboard. Personally, i don't play this game any longer, just watching the beta forum now and then. Don't get my wrong, i like the deep and hardcore idea of this game, but I'm a console gamer, and as a console gamer i like sitting in my easy chair drinking coffee or beer (depending on time and weekend day)and playing it with a game-pad. I Did try this new build of Dust and i was shocked of how much i suck at it, and i play a fuckload of first person shooters on the console, so my aim is very very well with the pad. I use to win every 2nd "duel" in gun play and now its may be ever 5th. Please spare me the "this is not CoD bla bla, use a vehicle bla bla, ltp bla bla" i know what i want, and i want it to be fair. And for a game to be fair, every one needs to have a initial situation, all pay with pad, or all play with keyboard. you know it could just be that players who never used a controller before used to be easy for you, but now after some weeks of play they (we) are getting better at using them, and you are just not as great as you thought you were ? nope. but i wish this would be this way. I still hold my 1,3 KDR in games like BF3 and MW2. And holding this ratio in this very-well-balanced-fast-paced-dead-means-really-nothing-games without playing a sniper (actually i play always the Medic or in MW2 I use a SCAR-H with red-dot) is actually very god for a not pro or hardcore gamer (i spend 2/3 hours playing) and my DKR is the best from my Buddy List, and my list is huge. But i wish it would be the other way, because it would mean i have still room for improvements of my personal skills (and not the Dust skills). On the other side, if i use a Keyboard, I'm back an the "Top" or almost between top and middle. I know my skills i play games for over 20 years now and i can see the most time if i hat the chance to win, and just miss this chance, or if i loose without a chance. And I'm not going to use a keyboard and mouse, i rather play another game... like Darksiders II, Dark Souls (the new DLC), BF3, RE6 and so on. there is a ton of god games out there, and I'm ready to pay for them. Dust is for Free? I don't care, i pay for it if this game is worth the money.
Shogen Shu Algintal Core Gallente Federation 23	Posted - 2012.08.28 13:15:00 - [3] - Quote RankRancid wrote: Shogen Shu wrote: I don't like it that this game for me to play it with a keyboard to stand a fair chance against other players who used keyboard. Personally, i don't play this game any longer, just watching the beta forum now and then. Don't get my wrong, i like the deep and hardcore idea of this game, but I'm a console gamer, and as a console gamer i like sitting in my easy chair drinking coffee or beer (depending on time and weekend day)and playing it with a game-pad. I Did try this new build of Dust and i was shocked of how much i suck at it, and i play a fuckload of first person shooters on the console, so my aim is very very well with the pad. I use to win every 2nd "duel" in gun play and now its may be ever 5th. Please spare me the "this is not CoD bla bla, use a vehicle bla bla, ltp bla bla" i know what i want, and i want it to be fair. And for a game to be fair, every one needs to have a initial situation, all pay with pad, or all play with keyboard. I use a red DS3 with orb extended triggers and analogue rubber grips. No turbo triggers and zero dropshot buttons. That is a standard DS3 controller except for colour and orb add-on. Have not used a mouse and keyboard to game in over 3 years. I way prefer the comfort of my lounge suit than my office chair. I have platted more than 20 games ranging from 3ps,fps,rpg,racing and even an old genisis arcade simulator. I have platted vanquish also which has a difficulty rating of 9.9 I think. Maybe I'm slightly more used to the DS3 controller than others. Have not even noticed in game if someone is using a keyboard and mouse yet. Sounds extremly interesting, the modifycation is worth a try due to the extra height that they put onto the sticks
Shogen Shu Algintal Core Gallente Federation 23	Posted - 2012.08.28 14:37:00 - [4] - Quote I do think as well that there are far to many ppl joining the beta and seeing that this game is crap. They make up their minds, and its done. This game is still so full of bugs it even hurts me to play it. The only way to make a fast impression is polishing the graphic to its limits, saying:"Well yes god Sir, there are still bugs but that's is what you are here for, so please test this beta and tell us." The Squad management for example is horrifying, the amount of handycaps is to damt high to writ them down. Playing a logistic is pain in the ass, you like to be punished, welcome to CCP, please skill a logistic, doesn't matter if EVE or Dust, make sure you are a logi and you will get your punishment. I spend SP in repairing ppl, and it was a huge mistake, you don't get accepted enough points, so you keep throwing your nanohives like hell and hopping to make some points. I don't even try to repair scouts and assaults, because I won't receive ANY reward for repairing them from zero to hero. I focus on heavy's, that is the only way to get the points out I lost in remote repairing if you say alive wile running behind them, because they have no idea that they receiving reps.
Shogen Shu Algintal Core Gallente Federation 23	Posted - 2012.08.29 09:26:00 - [5] - Quote Yesterday I was a little pissed on page 1 and 2, today I think I could have bean more detailed about my complains. I still think that Keyboard and Mouse don't belong in a console game why I think this way you can read on page 1. I mentioned two another mayor problems, the problem being a logistic ( its a ccp wide problem, in eve online logic have a hard time as well) and the leader/squad management. Logistic: 1. It is tacking was to long to receive the points for repairing, repairing a Scout or a Assault is "pointless" (haha you get the wordplay?). Repairing makes only sense on a heavy or on a vehicle. 2. The second problem is that the unit you try to repair don't know that there is some one behind trying to help. So the very most people just runs out of your range. 3. Mini Map. it would be great if other players who are damaged could see remote armor repair units on the field. 4. Nano Injectors. Well ... Nano Injectors did work yes, but its hard as ** to get them in the person i like to revive. I would be nice if you could just hammering this thing right in to the one ling to your feet without making the "holy crap where the ** is this right spot dance" which looks like diarrhea to other who watching it. 5. Drop suits should get bonuses like 5% per skill on rap, or hacking speed, own repair amount, you could separate this between the races. 6. Leader-boards. Well this problem is in EVE very similar, the logistics don't get the tribute they should get. All you see is a top leader on the board who killed a lot of people without dying, but you don't see that there are three logis behind him, doing their best to keep him alive. More esteem for the logic would be nice. May be a support tap on the leader-board. Later this day i will write down about leader/squad management. I hope this helps to make this game become better.
Shogen Shu Algintal Core Gallente Federation 23	Posted - 2012.08.30 08:14:00 - [6] - Quote Yesterday I testes the comuncation beween EVE and DUST. Why the f*ck do I must pay for voice chat? I'm really confused.
Shogen Shu Algintal Core Gallente Federation 23	Posted - 2012.08.30 14:40:00 - [7] - Quote EriktheHeartless wrote: Shogen Shu wrote: Yesterday I testes the comuncation beween EVE and DUST. Why the f*ck do I must pay for voice chat? I'm really confused. while i agree with what i think your saying you should take the mic out of your pants and stop TESTES them. thehehe, silly me. well this my 3rd language :). You think this tool for using voicechat will stay at 1 Au?
Shogen Shu Algintal Core Gallente Federation 23	Posted - 2012.08.31 07:48:00 - [8] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Saiibot wrote: Marwan2 wrote: Jedd Brown wrote: Guys when Dust starts there will be: PVE (drone regions or/and probably wormhole exploration)- for those who likes some kinde of mobs or lone wolf play PVP in high sec space / low sec space (factional warfare) for guys who wan't a pvp with meaning but not to deep ;) PVP in null sec. Some kind of deepest gameplay for hadcore gamers. Close integration to EVE players PVP like today in beta but with more customization /game mods / maps for casual players. Some big events in EVE/DUST engaging a lot of players IT'S FREE :) Explain me how this model could fail? Ofcourse when all technical stuff will work well not like today. BECAUSE THE MOTHERFUCKING GAMEPLAY SUCKS ! THAT IS WHY! Shooting people in Dust is not fun, there is something horribly about the mechanics. Until CCP figures this out they can add as much depth and complexity as they want, the game will not succeed except with a few thousand people grinding online for the next best item... Somebody had to say it! Part of what we're here for. Keep posting criticism and improvement suggestions, and it'll get better as we go along. Yeah, this patch was kind of a setback from a gameplay standpoint, but there's plenty of time to turn it back around and make more improvements. About the mechanics. Yes there is something wrong. I can't say what it is. Its just feels blunt, playing the game does not feel cocnnectet, its like we play in a viscous atmosphere where every thing is wrapped. Yesterday I played a little Killzone2. I remember this game as a "boring-action" but playing it after I use to Dust this game (Killzone2) feels like a manifestation. My curiosity force me to put BF3 back in to the PS3 and holyf*ck, let me tell you it feels so great. Yes the game mechanic needs a lot more improvement. I'm not talking about the concept, this posting is dedicated only to the feeling of the mechanic.