DUST Search - Conversation with a friend about his first day

Beast Beastlington wrote:

Alhanna Ridgeway wrote:

I am losing my faith in the intelligence of the community while reading this topic. Couple sentences that stuck out to me.

"80% of shots don't register." Someone can't aim. Im just saying.
"Average is the top 10% of players?" If it's the top 10% then it isn't average.

Also any sentence saying COD or BF3 are what FPS games should be like. I don't want to play those anymore. I've played those all I ever care to play them, people who play this want something different. I don't care about putting a clan symbol on the side of my damn weapon, when that becomes important I have to ask if you are like 8 years old. That's fu ck ing stupid.

Also, everyone needs to remember it's BETA and has alot of stuff that needs to be fixed. Im sure CCP is aware of it, because it's posted on the forums every single day.

Personally, I like the game for the fact it doesn't play like COD or BF3 or any other shooter Ive played in a long time. There seems to be less of those retards bunny hopping all over the place, which is ineffective and quite funny to watch them die when they could have been actually shooting someone accurately. The skill system rewards reading, if you can put the skills together to be effective, to me you deserve it for not reading what you're training. Im enjoying watching the Lottery Tank drivers Ive been seeing the last week get blown up in 2-3 shots cause they ain't train any kind of defense skills. Oh and it's a teamwork type game, which beats a lone wolf game any day of the week.

I say if you don't like the game, can't adapt and overcome, or can't figure it out, go play something simpler, COD BF3 MOH or perhaps a nice easy game of Viva Pinata, something more suited to your particular talents, but please stop trying to get a game alot of us enjoy made simpler because it's too complex for that brain of yours to understand.

Once again, in EVE and DUST everyone is NOT created equal.

if anything, you should be investigation your own intelligence because you've completely missed the point of my post. I mean, you couldn't actually get further away if you tried.

YOU might not care about the things I posted about but the VAST majority of FPS gamers DO.

Dust will need A LOT of players purchasing vanity items to survive. If it doesn't have the player base it will die off.

Do you get it now?

It's not what you or I want for the game, it's what sells. It's what keeps gamers coming back, night after night. No one I know wants to play Dust right now.

Why do you think that is?


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Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.08.28 05:24:00 - [1] - Quote Friend of mine got on Skype today and talked to me about his experience with the Beta. [8/27/2012 7:52:57 PM] [REDACTED]: well i played the dust beta, i'm kinda disapointed. I understand the bad graffics and lag, its a beta for god sakes, but i just couldn"t get into the game. I started with the ** equitment like everyone but against people with the good stuff it was usless, the maps were to big for the number of players and jeeps and didn't help because they were destoryed to easaly, plus i went and got a better gun after saving up points for a few maches and it didn't even last more than two days, unless your a pro its imposible to keep up enough points to keep your arsenal any good for more than a day. It all came down to call of duty meets farmvile, i just couldn't stand it after a week i deleted it from my hard drive. [8/27/2012 7:53:58 PM] [REDACTED]: sorry but i probubly won't be joining you on this one [8/27/2012 7:54:19 PM] [REDACTED]: but i am saving money to get a better pc for planet side 2 [8/27/2012 7:55:48 PM] [REDACTED]: just thought i should tell you what i thought of it I offered some clarification and he responded: [8/27/2012 8:09:13 PM] [REDACTED]: well, i payed a bit of the beta on my freinds PC and i have to say of the two of them i personaly enjoyed the concept of PS2 much more than Dust. Though i never could stand games with time limit items, thats why i don't play many online games, but i also have a weakness for open world games, hell one of the first games i ever played was Elder scrools 2 on my dads old DOS PC. i guess its all just a matter of opinion and personal taste. Like my Boss always says "Opinions are like assholes, everyones got one, but don"t go showning yours off if you don"t want somebody to it [8/27/2012 8:15:44 PM] [REDACTED]: i just never found games that focus on equitment so much to be all that fun, and the game play so far for dust is basicly COD with a vamped up equipment system, just not my thing.Plus in planet side you can do whatever the you want while dust is much more objective orianted, you can't just sit around with a sniper *** with people, which as the internet has sown us is one of the most important parts to any online comunity [8/27/2012 8:25:21 PM] [REDACTED]: another thing is that dust apeals to more hardcore gamers, but PS2, while not perfect, has the potential to attract more casual gamers that only want to play every now and again. I mentioned the potential to capture and hold planets for your Corporation. [8/27/2012 8:33:02 PM] [REDACTED]: which is cool i'll admit that but its just more than most people are willing to comit to, as a game it'll be cool and big, but thats not always the most important thing, look at COD for example, the game is ** and is small and gets boring after an hour but thats it key point, you can kill a bit of time on it then go to work and the comunity will stay afloat. Dusts problem is going to be finding enough comited people to fill such a big world. [8/27/2012 8:37:23 PM] [REDACTED]: plus most the people who are going to be playing it also play eve, so you might not have enough people on eve cause they're on dustat the time or vice versa. That also brings another problem if you don"t know enough about Eve when the game starts to get more complex people will not want to learn about eve, they just want a game to play, not a comunity where they'll have to learn or adapt. Dust is just to hardcore for its own good and thats gonna be its down fall Jumping forward a bit. [8/27/2012 9:36:03 PM] [REDACTED]: well the only reason people are joinging alot right now is cause they made it free for Playstation plus members to play the beta, so me and a bunch of other people are joining in now to test it. i Doubt the PSN comunity will take to it even in the end though, after all the top 5 most played online games for PS are CODMW3, little big planet, mod nation racers, uncharted, and probubly a tie between dc online and gran turismo [8/27/2012 9:36:36 PM] [REDACTED]: all those games are extremly casual can not even near hard core [8/27/2012 9:37:33 PM] [REDACTED]: while PSN is better than XBLive they still don't want to spend a ton of time online, they like story based games, JRPGs and hack and slash [8/27/2012 9:38:29 PM] [REDACTED]: so it may do well at fist but it will never get the life span it would get on pc even with updates and twicks to the gameplay [8/27/2012 9:41:56 PM] [REDACTED]: its going to fail nomatter what on ps [8/27/2012 9:47:34 PM] [REDACTED]: I thinks its cool dude but i personaly don"t like the concept as i said an hour ago, its just to complex and take way more thought and teamwork/knowalge than me or most people are even willing to think about. Mag may have brought in a few hundred plus people but there are millions of people with PS3s and Mag was a flop for the same reasons i've been saying dust will flop. the comunity and target audiance are too small [8/27/2012 9:48:49 PM] [REDACTED]: some people on th net may like it but as a whole most consale gamers don"t get involed in that stuff, unlike pc gaming its not right there. [8/27/2012 9:49:33 PM] [REDACTED]: As a hardcore congamer i can tell you this would have been better off on PC [8/27/2012 9:50:17 PM] [REDACTED]: We're just too diffrent from you PC gamers, completely diffrent mindset on whats good I find myself fearing that this will be a somewhat common opinion on this game as a whole if more people continue to be exposed to it in this form, as its hard for the uninitiated to tell it apart from any other shooter except for what seems like an excessive level of complexity.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.08.28 06:14:00 - [2] - Quote Severe Clear wrote: There are some similarities in playstyle to TF2. The whole rock/paper/scissors game of scout/heavy/sniper and so forth. Might be worth marketing in that direction a bit. This game isn't going to be "for" everyone, we know that. But what's there already is deep and rewarding. We'll see. I agree, but too much of the depth isn't on display right now, and that's what's causing the snap judgements. More of that depth needs to be shown to the community, or the influx of testers needs to be cut back before this game ends up with a lot of negative publicity that it doesn't need.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.08.29 08:30:00 - [3] - Quote Holy **** guys, I did not expect this thread to get this many replies. I'm loving all the discussion I'm seeing here. Honestly, I've never been one for the whole 'console gamers are only casual' and its pretty awesome to see that being debunked here.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.08.31 03:35:00 - [4] - Quote Saiibot wrote: Marwan2 wrote: Jedd Brown wrote: Guys when Dust starts there will be: PVE (drone regions or/and probably wormhole exploration)- for those who likes some kinde of mobs or lone wolf play PVP in high sec space / low sec space (factional warfare) for guys who wan't a pvp with meaning but not to deep ;) PVP in null sec. Some kind of deepest gameplay for hadcore gamers. Close integration to EVE players PVP like today in beta but with more customization /game mods / maps for casual players. Some big events in EVE/DUST engaging a lot of players IT'S FREE :) Explain me how this model could fail? Ofcourse when all technical stuff will work well not like today. BECAUSE THE MOTHERFUCKING GAMEPLAY SUCKS ! THAT IS WHY! Shooting people in Dust is not fun, there is something horribly about the mechanics. Until CCP figures this out they can add as much depth and complexity as they want, the game will not succeed except with a few thousand people grinding online for the next best item... Somebody had to say it! Part of what we're here for. Keep posting criticism and improvement suggestions, and it'll get better as we go along. Yeah, this patch was kind of a setback from a gameplay standpoint, but there's plenty of time to turn it back around and make more improvements.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.09.12 20:14:00 - [5] - Quote Beast Beastlington wrote: Alhanna Ridgeway wrote: I am losing my faith in the intelligence of the community while reading this topic. Couple sentences that stuck out to me. "80% of shots don't register." Someone can't aim. Im just saying. "Average is the top 10% of players?" If it's the top 10% then it isn't average. Also any sentence saying COD or BF3 are what FPS games should be like. I don't want to play those anymore. I've played those all I ever care to play them, people who play this want something different. I don't care about putting a clan symbol on the side of my damn weapon, when that becomes important I have to ask if you are like 8 years old. That's fu ck ing stupid. Also, everyone needs to remember it's BETA and has alot of stuff that needs to be fixed. Im sure CCP is aware of it, because it's posted on the forums every single day. Personally, I like the game for the fact it doesn't play like COD or BF3 or any other shooter Ive played in a long time. There seems to be less of those retards bunny hopping all over the place, which is ineffective and quite funny to watch them die when they could have been actually shooting someone accurately. The skill system rewards reading, if you can put the skills together to be effective, to me you deserve it for not reading what you're training. Im enjoying watching the Lottery Tank drivers Ive been seeing the last week get blown up in 2-3 shots cause they ain't train any kind of defense skills. Oh and it's a teamwork type game, which beats a lone wolf game any day of the week. I say if you don't like the game, can't adapt and overcome, or can't figure it out, go play something simpler, COD BF3 MOH or perhaps a nice easy game of Viva Pinata, something more suited to your particular talents, but please stop trying to get a game alot of us enjoy made simpler because it's too complex for that brain of yours to understand. Once again, in EVE and DUST everyone is NOT created equal. if anything, you should be investigation your own intelligence because you've completely missed the point of my post. I mean, you couldn't actually get further away if you tried. YOU might not care about the things I posted about but the VAST majority of FPS gamers DO. Dust will need A LOT of players purchasing vanity items to survive. If it doesn't have the player base it will die off. Do you get it now? It's not what you or I want for the game, it's what sells. It's what keeps gamers coming back, night after night. No one I know wants to play Dust right now. Why do you think that is? You must not know the people I do.