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IronDefender Avenged
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Posted - 2012.09.12 18:21:00 -
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Beast Beastlington wrote: The OP here sums up exactly what I have been trying to get across on these forums since joining last week.
I play a variety of FPS's with a bunch of PSN friends (roughly 14-15 guys). All of them have access to the Dust beta and each and every one of them thinks the game is a complete disaster. They have completely lost interest in it and most likely will NEVER bother with it again.
"LOLZ THEY CAN GO BACK TO COD AMIRITE?". Wrong. Dust needs a big population of players all buying things to keep it alive.
These guys play Battlefield, CoD, Ghost Recon, Counter Strike and others, night after night. They aren't dumb, clueless gamers. They know what makes a FPS work, what makes it addictive and most of all FUN.
Put simply, it's the GUN and how it feels. The feedback you get from firing it. The thrill of taking down the an enemy, of racking up kills, of holding an objective point. The SOUND. Tactile and aural feedback via the controller and the TV screen. The GUN IS YOUR CHARACTER in an FPS. That's why players love to customise, get attached to and even make Youtube videos detailing pros and cons of weapons. CoD: Black Ops let you put your emblem and clan tag on the gun. Do you think these additions are accidental? No, they aren't. Every CoD game lets you add attachments, launchers, camos, color schemes. In BF3 you unlock things as you use your weapon more. Are these additions accidental? WHY ARE THEY BEING ADDED?
Because FPS players identify the on screen gun as being THEIR character.
Dust doesn't have any of this and after searching menus and options I don't see anywhere this will be implemented at launch.
Every AR looks the same and sounds the same thus far. They have the most hideous ADS view I've ever seen in an FPS. The weapon sounds are so poor it's unbelievable. When you get a kill, you hear what sounds like a windows error message. It's a sub par shooting experience. It's as simple as that. NO ONE is going to play this game for RPG elements.
I consider myself a big Black Ops fan, although not a fanboy (it has its own share of problems, I admit.). While I have immensely enjoyed the beta in the few days I have played it, you pretty much sum up my thoughts on this, including the OP. Although there is a unique RPG side to this game, the fun factor that GOOD fps games have isn't quite there yet. It doesn't have to clone any game, but on the flip side there are reasons why certain gameplay features have become prominent. Leave what is here for the diehard eve fans, but new people need a valid reason to play this without being argued into it or by sitting through an hour long rant on why the game is awesome.
It is a beta, but certain things need to be addressed if it expects to gain widespread appeal and be enjoyable to actually PLAY. |
IronDefender Avenged
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.12 20:00:00 -
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Alhanna Ridgeway wrote:I am losing my faith in the intelligence of the community while reading this topic. Couple sentences that stuck out to me.
"80% of shots don't register." Someone can't aim. Im just saying. "Average is the top 10% of players?" If it's the top 10% then it isn't average.
Also any sentence saying COD or BF3 are what FPS games should be like. I don't want to play those anymore. I've played those all I ever care to play them, people who play this want something different. I don't care about putting a clan symbol on the side of my damn weapon, when that becomes important I have to ask if you are like 8 years old. That's fu ck ing stupid.
Also, everyone needs to remember it's BETA and has alot of stuff that needs to be fixed. Im sure CCP is aware of it, because it's posted on the forums every single day.
Personally, I like the game for the fact it doesn't play like COD or BF3 or any other shooter Ive played in a long time. There seems to be less of those retards bunny hopping all over the place, which is ineffective and quite funny to watch them die when they could have been actually shooting someone accurately. The skill system rewards reading, if you can put the skills together to be effective, to me you deserve it for not reading what you're training. Im enjoying watching the Lottery Tank drivers Ive been seeing the last week get blown up in 2-3 shots cause they ain't train any kind of defense skills. Oh and it's a teamwork type game, which beats a lone wolf game any day of the week.
I say if you don't like the game, can't adapt and overcome, or can't figure it out, go play something simpler, COD BF3 MOH or perhaps a nice easy game of Viva Pinata, something more suited to your particular talents, but please stop trying to get a game alot of us enjoy made simpler because it's too complex for that brain of yours to understand.
Once again, in EVE and DUST everyone is NOT created equal.
Your arrogancy notwithstanding, I do appreciate this game for how it is shaping to NOT be bf3 or cod. If I wanted that, i would just play those games instead. I like the concept of everything this game is about. However, the gameplay itself is not precisely in and of itself fun to play. I'm not saying that from the point of view of a cod fanboy, but rather someone that sees immense potential in the game but worries about actual development problems with the game, NOT differences.
It just boils down to some development tweaks, and not a restructuring. Don't take for granted, though, that many new people will come into this not knowing a single thing about EVE, and must be eased into it properly without alienating the fans who know, enjoy, and deserve it best. |
IronDefender Avenged
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.12 20:18:00 -
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Beast Beastlington wrote:Alhanna Ridgeway wrote:I am losing my faith in the intelligence of the community while reading this topic. Couple sentences that stuck out to me.
"80% of shots don't register." Someone can't aim. Im just saying. "Average is the top 10% of players?" If it's the top 10% then it isn't average.
Also any sentence saying COD or BF3 are what FPS games should be like. I don't want to play those anymore. I've played those all I ever care to play them, people who play this want something different. I don't care about putting a clan symbol on the side of my damn weapon, when that becomes important I have to ask if you are like 8 years old. That's fu ck ing stupid.
Also, everyone needs to remember it's BETA and has alot of stuff that needs to be fixed. Im sure CCP is aware of it, because it's posted on the forums every single day.
Personally, I like the game for the fact it doesn't play like COD or BF3 or any other shooter Ive played in a long time. There seems to be less of those retards bunny hopping all over the place, which is ineffective and quite funny to watch them die when they could have been actually shooting someone accurately. The skill system rewards reading, if you can put the skills together to be effective, to me you deserve it for not reading what you're training. Im enjoying watching the Lottery Tank drivers Ive been seeing the last week get blown up in 2-3 shots cause they ain't train any kind of defense skills. Oh and it's a teamwork type game, which beats a lone wolf game any day of the week.
I say if you don't like the game, can't adapt and overcome, or can't figure it out, go play something simpler, COD BF3 MOH or perhaps a nice easy game of Viva Pinata, something more suited to your particular talents, but please stop trying to get a game alot of us enjoy made simpler because it's too complex for that brain of yours to understand.
Once again, in EVE and DUST everyone is NOT created equal. if anything, you should be investigation your own intelligence because you've completely missed the point of my post. I mean, you couldn't actually get further away if you tried. YOU might not care about the things I posted about but the VAST majority of FPS gamers DO. Dust will need A LOT of players purchasing vanity items to survive. If it doesn't have the player base it will die off. Do you get it now? It's not what you or I want for the game, it's what sells. It's what keeps gamers coming back, night after night. No one I know wants to play Dust right now. Why do you think that is?
Do you not agree that it all boils down to who the target audience is? If purely eve players, it is succeeding, but it needs to target the fps players more to literally survive. |
IronDefender Avenged
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.13 00:35:00 -
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drake sadani wrote:it would be better if ccp actually interacted more with the testers . and don't give me they are busy with the game because if they where that busy . it would be less buggy and they would want more input . as it stands i was enjoying it because it seemed to be active towards the testers and fans . but now i see its just like any other DEV team they don't check in they don't talk they hand out what they think is good and ignore what the testers tell them.
if thats how this keeps going its going to fail. and if it keeps going like that it should fail. because it will be another train wreck , just like bf3 just like black ops just like mass effect 3 sad and broken howling in the gutter like the rest of the trash.
(yes its harsh but its not like the DEVS are reading this lols . and if they are speak up we want you to talk to us, it seems you have forgotten us all anyway . ) if you interacted daily then this would be a much better game. still is a good game though but it has no life to it just kinda "meh"
actually seeing the elitist your all stupid because you cannot play this game comment
its going to fail. people don't like dic*(KITTENS) . .
Calling those game train wrecks is a gross exaggeration and discredits your already elitist comments. |
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