i say you're QQ. i spent SP into something that my team could use to counter other tanks. now you're telling me i'm too OP because my tank has infinite rounds. at first i though the Forge Gun was UnderPowered, until i drove a tank. now 2 guys with forge guns can take me out. if they work together. tanks miss a lot of shots, my tank does not hit every shot i shoot. if you die because of a tank and are requesting this, then you need to play tank roll. see how it is.

The reason why Vechiles have unlimited ammo is because enemies can re-spawn.
In real life a tank don't resupply because you don't have to kill the same person twice because he came back!

Dust is a VIDEO GAME people.

The reason why Vechiles have unlimited ammo is because enemies can re-spawn.
In real life a tank don't resupply because you don't have to kill the same person twice because he came back!

Dust is a VIDEO GAME people.

Are you saying that a tank is made with the exact amount of ammo that it will need for the entirety of its military use, never having to be resupplied?

Lurch's idea that tanks are probably equipped with internal nano hives is the best explanation I've heard. If the designers of these tanks were smart enough to throw in an internal nano hive then I believe my Merc would be clever enough to duct tape a nano hive to his back in order to have infinite ammo as well.

very fair and also very reasonable

only retort i have is dropsuits dont have quite the cpu/pg capacities that a vehicle does....

we'll just have to see what happens next build

btw........


OMG NEXT BUILD this has been building up so much in my mind its like the next build is gonna have the goddamn meaning of life in it. Cant wait!

Don't get your hopes up to high, they can only implement so many things a build.

Don't get your <3 broke.

I prefer to play on the ground and use an AR or SMG and I have a finite amount of ammo, however vehicles have infinite ammo. Now I believe that vehicles should have to resupply just like the rest of us. They should be equipped with a reasonable amount of ammo and if it starts to run low they should have to either go to a supply depot, ask a teammate for a nano hive, jump out throw their own nano hive, or better yet have a vehicle ammo supply module.

If vehicles have an ammo supply module they could be mobile nano hives that could resupply themselves as well as teammates. Also it would give them a choice to make in terms of sacrificing a bit stopping power or defense in order to help out the team a bit more.

Go head say I'm QQing, but I'm trying to throw out a reasonable idea that could be implemented. So what do you guys think?

You want limited ammo on vehicles? I for one disagree with this, but let me entertain an alternative.

Several people have mentioned Nano-hives for vehicles. To be honest, this is what I think is actually the current situation. Each turret has a built in nano-hive that produces rounds as needed. However, what if we were to change the rate of ammo regeneration so that it's lower than the maximum fire rate, and introduce an ammo hopper of x size for each weapon? This would still give vehicles infinite ammo, but you could run out temporarily if you just fire continuously. This ammo generation rate would be increased by proximity to supply depos and nano-hives.

To expand upon that (and what others have mentioned) you could add a nano-hive as a module to your tank. This would increase the rate of ammo generation for all your turrets (maybe to the point where you can continuously fire without having to worry about your reserve) AND provide ammo resupply to friendly vehicles and infantry nearby. Fitting requirements for such a module might be similar to a CRU. Variants might also repair armour passively for yourself and others (at a similar rate to that of a nano-hive, so not that much in the scheme of things for vehicle combat)

no i fully agree, especially fo rthe incoming artillery tanks.

Oh look a nerf vehicles thread...

There is not a practical way to resupply vehicles if they were to run out of ammo. An infantry nanohive? Seriously?

The vehicles are far from perfect in how they fit in the game currently, but they are not in need of an ammo nerf at all.

You want limited ammo on vehicles? I for one disagree with this, but let me entertain an alternative.

Several people have mentioned Nano-hives for vehicles. To be honest, this is what I think is actually the current situation. Each turret has a built in nano-hive that produces rounds as needed. However, what if we were to change the rate of ammo regeneration so that it's lower than the maximum fire rate, and introduce an ammo hopper of x size for each weapon? This would still give vehicles infinite ammo, but you could run out temporarily if you just fire continuously. This ammo generation rate would be increased by proximity to supply depos and nano-hives.

To expand upon that (and what others have mentioned) you could add a nano-hive as a module to your tank. This would increase the rate of ammo generation for all your turrets (maybe to the point where you can continuously fire without having to worry about your reserve) AND provide ammo resupply to friendly vehicles and infantry nearby. Fitting requirements for such a module might be similar to a CRU. Variants might also repair armour passively for yourself and others (at a similar rate to that of a nano-hive, so not that much in the scheme of things for vehicle combat)

I prefer to play on the ground and use an AR or SMG and I have a finite amount of ammo, however vehicles have infinite ammo. Now I believe that vehicles should have to resupply just like the rest of us. They should be equipped with a reasonable amount of ammo and if it starts to run low they should have to either go to a supply depot, ask a teammate for a nano hive, jump out throw their own nano hive, or better yet have a vehicle ammo supply module.

If vehicles have an ammo supply module they could be mobile nano hives that could resupply themselves as well as teammates. Also it would give them a choice to make in terms of sacrificing a bit stopping power or defense in order to help out the team a bit more.

Go head say I'm QQing, but I'm trying to throw out a reasonable idea that could be implemented. So what do you guys think?

I think you're missreading his post. He's not asking to solo highend tanks, he's calling bullshit on a guy who claims to solo high end tanks.

i never said i solo its always a group effort but my advanced swarm takes down the shield in 3 or 4 hits and does consistant damage without me complaining about how OP they r cause they just arent now if they flew and can rain death all around then i could see a problem lol if they use cover most do i have to wait for my forge guy to scare him out then i spam more missles sadly i dont have that much sp to have both forge and swarm :( but i should get proto swarm this weekend

I prefer to play on the ground and use an AR or SMG and I have a finite amount of ammo, however vehicles have infinite ammo. Now I believe that vehicles should have to resupply just like the rest of us. They should be equipped with a reasonable amount of ammo and if it starts to run low they should have to either go to a supply depot, ask a teammate for a nano hive, jump out throw their own nano hive, or better yet have a vehicle ammo supply module.

If vehicles have an ammo supply module they could be mobile nano hives that could resupply themselves as well as teammates. Also it would give them a choice to make in terms of sacrificing a bit stopping power or defense in order to help out the team a bit more.

Go head say I'm QQing, but I'm trying to throw out a reasonable idea that could be implemented. So what do you guys think?

This discussion isn't about AV weapons, its about the validity of infinite ammo. Vehicles having a set ammo would make them more strategic and they would be able to resupply through the exact same methods infantry do.

it sounds a lot like a vehicles r OP thread and reading through all the others statements im sure they have a science around it plus vehicles become worthless if they have a set low # and if it is a high # u dont need to keep track of ammo (video game wise) a low amount of ammo for tanks would be a very high amount of ammo for us it would be better to keep it the way it is

You're talking about the extremes, I'm sure CCP would be capable of balancing the amount of ammo for vehicles.

idk i think it isnt a good idea :( at most if they wanted to and i dont want them to id accept a longer load time just a several seconds more but can be decreased with skills but at that cost it may make the machine worthless unless hitting the targets in gunner seats becomes easier and can anybody give me the #'s on tank gun prices vs soldier gun prices

Easier? All you have to do is aim at the guy's feet, the Missiles are all about splash damage.

Again, I just can't see a justification for infinite ammo for vehicles, as it clashes with all established backstory of the universe. I mean, we're talking about (soon to be) 1.2 million ISK HAVs. If those can equip modules that provide an infinite ammo count, why the hell wouldn't all the infinitely wealthy capsuleers have this equipment on every ship? It just doesn't make any sense.

or this is a science for it but why do nanohives give me unlimited ammo? they have nothing like nanohives in eve?