If they remove infinite ammo, then they need to lower the pg/cpu requirements of weapons or add an additional slot/cpu-pg to the vehicles to make up for it.

Oh look a nerf vehicles thread...

There is not a practical way to resupply vehicles if they were to run out of ammo. An infantry nanohive? Seriously?

The vehicles are far from perfect in how they fit in the game currently, but they are not in need of an ammo nerf at all.

How would you reload them? These aren't timed kill streaks, people are going to revolve their entire game around sitting in one. Ammo has to be at least as plentiful as it is for infantry before you seriously consider this, so answer me how.

Hopefully it can work like eve ammo for the HAV's.

btw, now that i think about it, whats stl? are you 989 millimeters tall?

4,200 shots per minute i just read.

i feel this issue is settled. what ever the reason.... tanks dont need resupply.

The reason why Vechiles have unlimited ammo is because enemies can re-spawn.
In real life a tank don't resupply because you don't have to kill the same person twice because he came back!

Dust is a VIDEO GAME people.

You want limited ammo on vehicles? I for one disagree with this, but let me entertain an alternative.

Several people have mentioned Nano-hives for vehicles. To be honest, this is what I think is actually the current situation. Each turret has a built in nano-hive that produces rounds as needed. However, what if we were to change the rate of ammo regeneration so that it's lower than the maximum fire rate, and introduce an ammo hopper of x size for each weapon? This would still give vehicles infinite ammo, but you could run out temporarily if you just fire continuously. This ammo generation rate would be increased by proximity to supply depos and nano-hives.

To expand upon that (and what others have mentioned) you could add a nano-hive as a module to your tank. This would increase the rate of ammo generation for all your turrets (maybe to the point where you can continuously fire without having to worry about your reserve) AND provide ammo resupply to friendly vehicles and infantry nearby. Fitting requirements for such a module might be similar to a CRU. Variants might also repair armour passively for yourself and others (at a similar rate to that of a nano-hive, so not that much in the scheme of things for vehicle combat)

i never said i solo its always a group effort but my advanced swarm takes down the shield in 3 or 4 hits and does consistant damage without me complaining about how OP they r cause they just arent now if they flew and can rain death all around then i could see a problem lol if they use cover most do i have to wait for my forge guy to scare him out then i spam more missles sadly i dont have that much sp to have both forge and swarm :( but i should get proto swarm this weekend

it sounds a lot like a vehicles r OP thread and reading through all the others statements im sure they have a science around it plus vehicles become worthless if they have a set low # and if it is a high # u dont need to keep track of ammo (video game wise) a low amount of ammo for tanks would be a very high amount of ammo for us it would be better to keep it the way it is

idk i think it isnt a good idea :( at most if they wanted to and i dont want them to id accept a longer load time just a several seconds more but can be decreased with skills but at that cost it may make the machine worthless unless hitting the targets in gunner seats becomes easier and can anybody give me the #'s on tank gun prices vs soldier gun prices

or ur reading wayyy too deep into it i think thats a gameplay flaw the science is questionable since i can spawn rockets from mine for my swarm if they didnt have infinite ammo they would affect it

I do find it rather silly that a dropship and a tank has unlimited ammunition.

However, using a simple nano hive that a typical merc carries to resupply a tank or a dropship is kind of silly as well given the limited amount of nanites in the equipment with respect to the size of the turrets. I suspect that the nano hives would only last for a VEEEERRY short time before they run out of nanites and pop.

u r so biased lol

and we really need a dev/scientist to explain why they have unlimited to really drop this subject :P

I think someone stole some of my ideas... :P

I agree, vehicles would start out with a large amount of ammo, even more possibly from skills, but having to resupply would take a while.

There could be modules allowing vehicles to be mobile supply depots, much like you could spec it for ground support, EWAR, black ops, or remote rep, you could spec it for resupply. Allowing a good dropship pilot to fly parallel to another dropship and keep up a constant supply of ammo, or an LAV to drive up to a squad of soldiers after an engagement and fill them up.

Nobody runs out of ammo in EVE unless they are a literal idiot or have a severe lack of common sense, my Scorpion literally carries twenty thousand spare cruise missiles at all times, and those are damn big when it comes to ammunition.


Cargo bays are massive for warships, as you don't really need to carry all that much if your intent is to simply murder something senseless.

Regardless, since so many people are mentioning realism:

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M3 Bradly:
Main
armament
25 mm M242 Chain Gun
1500 rounds (300 ready)

Dual TOW Anti-Tank Missile Launcher
12 rounds (2 in launcher)

Secondary
armament7.62 mm M240C machine gun (God only knows how many rounds.

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M1 Abrams
Main
armament
105 mm L52 M68 rifled cannon (M1)
120 mm L44 M256 smoothbore cannon (M1A1, M1A2, M1A2SEP) with 42 rounds
Secondary
armament1 x .50-caliber (12.7 mm) M2HB heavy machine gun with 900 rounds
2 x 7.62 mm (.308) M240 machine guns with 8,800 rounds (1 pintle-mounted, 1 coaxial)

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Vehicles carry a kitten amount of ordnance.

I want RE's to be like C4 on BF3. Then I will be a happy Scout who is sick of being surrounded b Surya/Sagaris who meets one in the face with little to no capability to do nout.

I think this is a reasonable topic to be brought up. Ships in Eve have to have ammo (missiles, projectiles, etc) before they can go into battle with the exception of lasers. Lasers use crystals to determine damage type, range among other factors. Tanks shouldn't be an exception. If I know CCP well enough from experience I would be willing to bet they are going to be implementing something like this. Maybe not right away but in time.

However, since this is a shooter I could be wrong but I doubt it especially since some of the battles will be taking place on sovereign territories for very valuable resources. Resources that corps are willing to go to any length to protect them. And I do mean any length. Eve low and null sec as well as wormhole space is very competitive.

So that being said; I don't see why CCP will not implement the same for tanks as they do for ships in Eve. Tanks energy turrets use capacitor energy. These capacitors need to be recharged if depleted unless the power source can keep up.

Missiles/rockets should be limited. The tank does not have an infinite space to store them in. So it stands to reason that they should run out. If the tank survives long enough to resupply then more power to them but this should also be a factor to be taken into consideration since resupply is part of battle and a strategic part at that. Real life battles have been lost to the lack of supply. This should be no exception since the Eve universe is based on realism.

a proto large turret costs about 100k isk while only getting a slight damage boost 1.5 damage max so your telling me that somewhere in that extra 99k isk we are not paying for a bunch of nanohives to be in it giving it as much ammo as it needs?whats a proto nanohive worth 20k-30k? each proto nanohive lets you throw down 2 right and gives you about 400 bullets each before going bye bye. personally I just think the best way to implement finite ammo would be tellin the dudes with AR's to get a swarm launcher or a forge gun that insanely OP tank that 1 shots you and takes "no skill" goes down very quickly.....I don't think even Noc's tank could last 10 seconds if 3 forge gunners ambushed him