I am a hardcore FPS player and a DUST 514 player, and I do want to bridge the gap between the two.

That said, I don't believe that being in New Eden means being shackled by EVE Online spaceship rules, DUST should be allowed some creative freedom to be what it needs to be.

Player trading IS coming to DUST 514 (barring disaster), the only FPS in the world to do so (if I am not mistaken) which stems directly from our New Eden philosophy, at no AUR sales advantage and a lot of strain on our small team. Same with Planetary Conquest.

I wholeheartedly believe that DUST is an unmatched experience and is getting better all the time. I double-dare you to read Hotfixes Alpha through Echo again if you don't agree.

I am a hardcore FPS player and a DUST 514 player, and I do want to bridge the gap between the two.

That said, I don't believe that being in New Eden means being shackled by EVE Online spaceship rules, DUST should be allowed some creative freedom to be what it needs to be.

Player trading IS coming to DUST 514 (barring disaster), the only FPS in the world to do so (if I am not mistaken) which stems directly from our New Eden philosophy, at no AUR sales advantage and a lot of strain on our small team. Same with Planetary Conquest.

I wholeheartedly believe that DUST is an unmatched experience and is getting better all the time. I double-dare you to read Hotfixes Alpha through Echo again if you don't agree.

Dusts needs to be overhauled more than being simplified. You are contributing factors that can be easily explained through other means . Also WoW has 10 million subs up from the 6.8 million months ago. Although simplifying the game as it is won't benefit anything since the fitting system is one of the very few mechanics that has any real depth to it.


Anyway dust in some gameplay terms pretty simple; but the clunky UI and controls, terrible NPE, and a terrible way of explaining the fitting system is what made the game seem complicated. I don't think Rattaii has done much simplifying( at least not to something a large portion of the playerbase would) most of it is tweaks,bug fixing, and adding monetization to the game.

I don't think CCP even cares about it being apart of Eve universe; since nearly all the ideas that makes it more like eve is gone( reason why BPOs is still a thing)

It was my understanding that boosters effect the mental capabilities of a capsuleer. I don't think our clone's neurologic function effect our jump distance, but I could be wrong

I wish CCP Rattati, CCP Rouge and the rest of the DUST team played EVE a bit on the side (a few hours a week). I'd love it if Rattati was in a corp like Red vs. Blue and got to experience a lot of fast-paced, low-stakes frigate brawls. I think it could add a lot of value by bringing in the right parts of EVE to DUST. I'd really like vehicle gameplay to mirror frigate fights in EVE, with tackling, capacitors, Ewar, out maneuvering the enemy, etc.

I have mixed feelings on the blue pills. Clearly there is something broken with stacking penalties that needs to be resolved and I would like to see how they work once they are functioning as intended. The idea of adding verticality to combat is fantastic and much needed, and adding jump height to blue pills is a logical extension of that module as well as giving it a purpose. I love that we can now access more areas of the map, but the execution does feel lazy/sloppy. If I were master of the universe and had unlimited resources to make DUST how I wanted I would add the following things:

1. Vaulting/climbing so we can grab ledges and pull ourselves up, or climb over a railing. It wouldn't be parkour-like, more like a strong guy/girl pulling his very heavy suit over a ledge.

2. Jet packs. These would be equipment with high fitting costs and a suit bonused to use them (maybe the commando) like the cloak. A PRO jet pack could get you to the top of a tower. It would cause a massive increase in your signature, and you'd be lockable with swarms when it's active.

3. Grappling pin and magnetic boots. This piece of equipment would allow you to scale walls and even attach to horizontal or the underside of metallic vertical surfaces. You could hide on the ceiling like a bat and shoot people while upside down. This would be useful in 0G fights too for getting around (one day).

4. A real mass stat. Each suit would have a mass stat that would increase based on the modules fit. All of the movement stats would be derived from this: sprint speed, jump height, stamina use, even inertia for strafing, speed of ingress/egress from vehicles, etc. all of this would bring a sense of authenticity to the physics at play. If you double the force of a jump, you don't actually go twice as high (I'm pretty sure that's right). Mass would play a major factor in limiting jump height to believable levels. I don't care how many bath salts you sniff and how genetically modified your muscles are, jumping in a 300lbs suit is only going to get you but so far off the ground.

5. The ability for mercs to walk up small steps like curbs without having to jump. Something like 12 inches in height wouldn't require jumping.

So I'm not against the idea of adding verticality to gameplay, or to increasing jump heights with blue pills, but I just want things to feel somewhat plausible. Blue pills should increase the amount of vertical force when you jump, but that should be fed into an equation based on the mass of the current suit to derive a jump height that is inline with Newtonian physics. (note this can all be calculated when you fit the suit, so it shouldn't impact gameplay performance).

The current implementation just feels out-of-place, like if CCP Shanghai decided to add spell casting to DUST. I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt for the time being though, and let them tweak the numbers/code until blue pills are behaving as intended.

Spell casting is in dust.
PLC is fireball.
Swarm is magic missile.
Hive is invigorate.
Laser is drain life.
Rep tool is heal wounds.
Flux is daze.

Now go play d&d 514. I hope I have shattered your limited world view.

Jump+massdriver - dragon fire.

Now it's game for 12 years children.
Shame, just shame.

Yes, Harry Potter was not enough, now we have Peter Pan.

I am a hardcore FPS player and a DUST 514 player, and I do want to bridge the gap between the two.

That said, I don't believe that being in New Eden means being shackled by EVE Online spaceship rules, DUST should be allowed some creative freedom to be what it needs to be.

Player trading IS coming to DUST 514 (barring disaster), the only FPS in the world to do so (if I am not mistaken) which stems directly from our New Eden philosophy, at no AUR sales advantage and a lot of strain on our small team. Same with Planetary Conquest.

I wholeheartedly believe that DUST is an unmatched experience and is getting better all the time. I double-dare you to read Hotfixes Alpha through Echo again if you don't agree.

Community idea? So was Jim Crow laws and the K.K.K. Your point?


Oh yeah, N*ziism too!

Assault marines can be equipped with Jump Packs; not blue gatorade that makes them jump like the aforementioned Goku on methamphetamine.

I do remember the cloaking device roll out. That was done by the old guard. Rattati and Co. was supposed to be better than this. He said he played with the fittings on a devbox. How could he have not seen these moon jumping antics in QA?

I see that the game is being iterated on, Balistyc. It's being improved on, in typical CCP fashion, slowly but surely. My concern is that CCP Rattati is no longer concerned with how his vision for the game fits into New Eden. His attitude has basically been that "Dust is different than Eve because fun is a reason" and that means he gets to discard source material as needed.

The chief reason I'm still interested in this game is because of the New Eden setting. Sure, I like the customization and the ScR gives me a chubby, but I can find similar thing in other games. I can't find a New Eden FPS anywhere else but here... and pretty soon I might not even find it here anymore

I don't believe Rattati overarching plan is to slowly lead us back to the New Eden setting after some patches. In fact, I think the goal is to distance DUST 514 from New Eden as much as possible so as to make the game more approachable and thus more profitable. Dust would probably sell better to the casual market if it were more fluffy and cuddly and "wheee look look I can jump really high mom!".

I double-dare you to read Hotfixes Alpha through Echo again if you don't agree.

I could go on about the current state of the game, but you devs would just ban me. So what's the point?

In response to your dare though, consider this. Large turrets are still broken. Don't fire, don't reload, touch a module and they quit working, empty a clip by themselves - with massive overheat. Reading the hotfix notes didn't say they would be fixed though, so I'll give you that.

I would like to know if this jumping bit is staying in? Because dodging someone that is 20m high is tough. I got run down by two mercs on foot (although mostly in the air). I was in a shield tank. Popped, av grenade from on high and plasma goof balled to death. There isn't any a single way to combat that action. No auto-lock turrets. No deployable auto-turrets. No nothing.

So what is the current plan for tanks? Or is death by unintended consequences here to stay?

If that is the case then give us the militia fuel injection back - the one with the 100% speed boost! Because then we tankers might be able to get away from the jumpers and we might even have a little fun doing it. The current solution may be a unique experience but as sure as New Eden is as far from Heaven as you can get, this situation is not fun.

also, see please this document. I do not believe that the age group that appears in it as a major, is a fan of Spider-Man. I believe that the main audience - serious people playing the game, far away from clowning.

Fleen, what I asked for is not currently in Dust 514. I asked for some kind of active equipment, not a pasivr passive module.