I am a hardcore FPS player and a DUST 514 player, and I do want to bridge the gap between the two.

That said, I don't believe that being in New Eden means being shackled by EVE Online spaceship rules, DUST should be allowed some creative freedom to be what it needs to be.

Player trading IS coming to DUST 514 (barring disaster), the only FPS in the world to do so (if I am not mistaken) which stems directly from our New Eden philosophy, at no AUR sales advantage and a lot of strain on our small team. Same with Planetary Conquest.

I wholeheartedly believe that DUST is an unmatched experience and is getting better all the time. I double-dare you to read Hotfixes Alpha through Echo again if you don't agree.

Based on what I found during testing (there's a thread), x3 Complex Myrofibrils allows you to jump about 20 feet on the dot if we assume that all mercs are about 5 feet tall.

I agree we don't want to completely follow EVE Spaceship Rules, Kincats and each suits' regen does this well.

Also i'm personally happy with how you did Myos.

However, should an equipment come out later on to make "jump packs" a thing, Myos' jump height would need to be dialed back a bit.

Also any plans on making Myos a bit less "Proto or bust"? Maybe we could do 15-20-25% and improve each suits' base melee to be at least somewhat reliable on its' own?

E.G. Minmatar Assault currently does 120(?), maybe make it 180 to 220, and bring the Minmatar Commando's from 240 up to 340, such that we can still have our 600 melee fits, but make it less utterly reliant on Prototype modules.

I too cringed a little bit when I read Rattati's post yesterday something about "Dust not having to be too serious.." Especially considering the content of the thread. Pointing to players discovering their superpowers over night and leaping buildings in a single bound... I wasn't aware I was playing City of Heroes...




Also "Getting better" is a matter of opinion and seemingly a minority opinion, as those graphs keep falling....

We should assume all heavies are about 7 feet tall, since were super soldiers. Scouts maybe 5ft bc sneaky sneaky doesn't go wellwith hulking giant

There is room for both jump packs and high jump stims. Jet packs and burst packs too.

we're about 300 lbs and I forgot the size but at least 6 ft.
Also eve's done just as silly things.
Re; Jump Fatigue
Re: Interdictor cancelers
Re: Doomsday weapon nerf
Soon Sovereignty shakeup.
All massively change the dynamics of the game.

Ripley Riley: gets a feature he specifically requested and then quits dust bc of it. Wow. I just want to let everyone else here see how ridiculous that sounds.

Can you explain burst pack?

The things you listed are all some kind of nerf or balancing effort. Bunny hopping blue gatorade is neither of those things; it is silliness for silly sake.

If Eve had implemented a new weapon system that fired rockets filled with space ferrets that attack the enemy vessel on impact we would be comparing apples to apples.

First off, please read my trello card: https://trello.com/c/ndrbokFX

"Equipment that actively increases your jump height and/or distance. The base unit increases jump height and distance. A variant could exist that increases height much more than distance.

The heavier the dropsuit the less of a benefit you receive from this module. Like most pieces of equipment, it would have a cooldown. Another variant could offer reduced jump heights/distances but a faster cooldown."

I wanted a piece of equipment, not a passive module.

Second, I am not quitting Dust. I am taking a break for a while. If Rattati tones down the myofibs I will probably return sooner rather than later. I will absolutely sign in for the Warlords 1.1 launch. Chances of me purchasing aurum are nil until I see Dust's direction change back to a heading somewhere in the same ******* hemisphere as New Eden.

The things you listed are all some kind of nerf or balancing effort. Bunny hopping blue gatorade is neither of those things; it is silliness for silly sake.

If Eve had implemented a new weapon system that fired rockets filled with space ferrets that attack the enemy vessel on impact we would be comparing apples to apples.

First off, please read my trello card: https://trello.com/c/ndrbokFX

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"Equipment that actively increases your jump height and/or distance. The base unit increases jump height and distance. A variant could exist that increases height much more than distance.

The heavier the dropsuit the less of a benefit you receive from this module. Like most pieces of equipment, it would have a cooldown. Another variant could offer reduced jump heights/distances but a faster cooldown."

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I wanted a piece of equipment, not a passive module.

Second, I am not quitting Dust. I am taking a break for a while. If Rattati tones down the myofibs I will probably return sooner rather than later. I will absolutely sign in for the Warlords 1.1 launch. Chances of me purchasing aurum are nil until I see Dust's direction change back to a heading somewhere in the same ******* hemisphere as New Eden.

I am a hardcore FPS player and a DUST 514 player, and I do want to bridge the gap between the two.

That said, I don't believe that being in New Eden means being shackled by EVE Online spaceship rules, DUST should be allowed some creative freedom to be what it needs to be.

Player trading IS coming to DUST 514 (barring disaster), the only FPS in the world to do so (if I am not mistaken) which stems directly from our New Eden philosophy, at no AUR sales advantage and a lot of strain on our small team. Same with Planetary Conquest.

I wholeheartedly believe that DUST is an unmatched experience and is getting better all the time. I double-dare you to read Hotfixes Alpha through Echo again if you don't agree.

I am a hardcore FPS player and a DUST 514 player, and I do want to bridge the gap between the two.

That said, I don't believe that being in New Eden means being shackled by EVE Online spaceship rules, DUST should be allowed some creative freedom to be what it needs to be.

Player trading IS coming to DUST 514 (barring disaster), the only FPS in the world to do so (if I am not mistaken) which stems directly from our New Eden philosophy, at no AUR sales advantage and a lot of strain on our small team. Same with Planetary Conquest.

I wholeheartedly believe that DUST is an unmatched experience and is getting better all the time. I double-dare you to read Hotfixes Alpha through Echo again if you don't agree.

i will agree until delta.

double dare complete

Hell, I find these stacking jumpers funny because I was the only scout I saw still running enhancers and damage mods over trip blues. Cool, you jump high, I can see you and I have my reds and a full sprint bar. You can't adjust that much mid air. All they have to do is have each blue reduce the sprint bar regen by x%. Done, problem fixed. you jump to the moon, but only once.

Now now now; who said we cannot learn from the current shenanigans so that when we do bring in the jump pack we have an idea how it should work?

After all we don't have a test server.

Which is why I am not advocating for a nerf until the packs are in. The meta change of the game play positives are just too great to ignore the gripe about being vertically challenged and points of access only available to dropships have immensely dropped severely. No place save the towers are safe from ambush anymore; many a roof campers are sadden they have to watch their backs now. This aspect must be preserved regardless; this is a change for the positive.

The whole jumping impractically while in combat can go jump packs on cooldowns will see to that.

Lets learn obverse and design better form our mistakes. Also I would like to see a general buff to all suits default jump height. 2 inch ledges are killing me smalls.

I am a hardcore FPS player and a DUST 514 player, and I do want to bridge the gap between the two.

That said, I don't believe that being in New Eden means being shackled by EVE Online spaceship rules, DUST should be allowed some creative freedom to be what it needs to be.

Player trading IS coming to DUST 514 (barring disaster), the only FPS in the world to do so (if I am not mistaken) which stems directly from our New Eden philosophy, at no AUR sales advantage and a lot of strain on our small team. Same with Planetary Conquest.

I wholeheartedly believe that DUST is an unmatched experience and is getting better all the time. I double-dare you to read Hotfixes Alpha through Echo again if you don't agree.

Wrong; the blue gatorade change was a direct response to the need to improve mobility and to increase the number of interesting map stories playing out breaking out the monotonous kill zone hallways of doom overpopulated by hmg sentinels and shotgun corners and a direct answer to roof top camping without the use of Vehicles which has been one of dusts major and massive unfun problems in the course of the last year as many weapon solutions where not simply dislodging people and one FGer or two can claim roof superiority.

Jump Fatigue is on the same level of this change.

Before anywhere in the galaxy I was; If I told pandemic legion I had tackeled a carrier would you like a free kill? They would respond within 5 minutes with a kill fleet and before the soon to be doomed carrier friends arrived.

Post Jump Fatique; it may be a few hours before the first ship arrives; Capital ships are now able to go through star gates a long held old age norm that was destroyed for the change.

Another massive mistake and fantasy you have though is that simply put; New Eden is not gritty because it wants to be; it is gritty because of human nature to be assholes and most people are just trying to get by day to day. If ruining your rooftop camping requires a disco ball laser grenade so be it.

I mean if you really want to argue;

How does a interdictor nullifier work? Interdictor sphers drain all the negative space energy out of the area making it impossible to drain enough localized negative space to form the required gravity mass for the warp drive. Yet interdictor nullfier equipped ships can fly through a 200 meter diameter sphere of this pocket anomaly without skipping a beat.

Inversely Deadspaces are called that because they feature the exact same characteristics of a nullifer sphere minus artificiality. Yet the nullfiers dont work in there thus warping within a deadspace is impossible.

I am beginning to equate this argument nearly as stupid as the supposively lore breaking uplinks.

By gawd people play some lvl 4 missions; Ever since sansha came back from the dead and is angry; we been trying to reverse engineer wormhole generator tech; uplinks are one such yet lethal result.

I am a hardcore FPS player and a DUST 514 player, and I do want to bridge the gap between the two.

That said, I don't believe that being in New Eden means being shackled by EVE Online spaceship rules, DUST should be allowed some creative freedom to be what it needs to be.

Player trading IS coming to DUST 514 (barring disaster), the only FPS in the world to do so (if I am not mistaken) which stems directly from our New Eden philosophy, at no AUR sales advantage and a lot of strain on our small team. Same with Planetary Conquest.

I wholeheartedly believe that DUST is an unmatched experience and is getting better all the time. I double-dare you to read Hotfixes Alpha through Echo again if you don't agree.

I am a hardcore FPS player and a DUST 514 player, and I do want to bridge the gap between the two.

That said, I don't believe that being in New Eden means being shackled by EVE Online spaceship rules, DUST should be allowed some creative freedom to be what it needs to be.

Player trading IS coming to DUST 514 (barring disaster), the only FPS in the world to do so (if I am not mistaken) which stems directly from our New Eden philosophy, at no AUR sales advantage and a lot of strain on our small team. Same with Planetary Conquest.

I wholeheartedly believe that DUST is an unmatched experience and is getting better all the time. I double-dare you to read Hotfixes Alpha through Echo again if you don't agree.

Fair enough, but we've come a long way since the days of honeyed lamb. I agree that 4x and 5x myo-aided jumps are 'bit much at the moment, but I don't understand the general butthurt. We finally have a tactical alternative to stack HP + hipfire + wiggle-wiggle. Is that really a bad thing?

All of the things you describe fit snugly into what we have come to recognize as New Eden tech. These new drugs don't fit within some players' scope of New Eden tech. That causes my immersion to break and to say to myself, "This is just silly..." If I intended to play a purposefully silly game this would be fine, but I didn't.

I am a hardcore FPS player and a DUST 514 player, and I do want to bridge the gap between the two.

That said, I don't believe that being in New Eden means being shackled by EVE Online spaceship rules, DUST should be allowed some creative freedom to be what it needs to be.

Player trading IS coming to DUST 514 (barring disaster), the only FPS in the world to do so (if I am not mistaken) which stems directly from our New Eden philosophy, at no AUR sales advantage and a lot of strain on our small team. Same with Planetary Conquest.

I wholeheartedly believe that DUST is an unmatched experience and is getting better all the time. I double-dare you to read Hotfixes Alpha through Echo again if you don't agree.

What about boosters? Like the EVE ones? You know the things the drug lab POSes make? Lore-wise I think the stim changes make perfect sense.

Is there a future for dust? I used to think of dust as a colossus in the making. Now it's more like a giant swatting mosquitos on its own ass.

It was my understanding that boosters effect the mental capabilities of a capsuleer. I don't think our clone's neurologic function effect our jump distance, but I could be wrong

The PS3 is being discontinued next year, DUST is dead and these changes are pointless.