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A-P-P-Baby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 240	Posted - 2015.01.22 16:58:00 - [121] - Quote Everyone's opinions should be valid. Roman, you're an abrasive individual. If you want your voice heard you could do it much more intelligently and constructively. Why don't you elect a diplomatic secretary from your newly created chat to take notes and gather the opinions? Have that person bring the opinions of the PC community as a whole to the proper channels in a polite and diplomatic way. Make sure that everyone agrees and makes it known that this person speaks for your custom channel of PC leaders and have him/her voice your concerns and feedback. You definitely should not be the one doing it. With that being said, I do agree that CCP should make a point of speaking directly to the active PC community and gathering as much data from them as possible. Most people I know who play PC daily want it to thrive. They want it to be more accessible to all. They want to fight someone different and not the same 7 groups of players every night. They are the ones who know more than anyone what is broken and what works. They are the ones staring at the star map every night and cross referencing with dotlan and various websites and spending countless hours not playing dust or on the forums. They are organizing, plotting, gathering intel. They are the ones having meetings with smaller corps and trying to give them districts to get them into PC. There is no way that CCP should be shutting out anyone's opinion be it of the average lone wolf pub guy or the most active PC involved CEO They call me "Mr. Vacation"... I used to be relevant, but I learned to delegate so I could island hop
Roman837 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 881	Posted - 2015.01.22 17:09:00 - [122] - Quote For a person I have never had a conversation with you seem to presume to know me. Abrasives? Is that the word your choosing to replace honest with? Or the words straight forward? How about I know what I am talking about. The second half of your message is a very accurate description of me. You stalking me? My posts here may be "abrasive" but any one who has ever had me on comms with them know I am a great communicator and very pleasant. The reason I am being so "abrasive" is because I am in panic mode. I am in damage control mode. These changes will ruin our game. They will make my players not log on. I owe those players the loyalty to stand up for them. I owe players I fight with daily the loyalty to fight for their game. Put CCP the CPM and myself with a few chosen individuals in a room together and give us an hour. CPM will be fired and dust will be on the right track. And a few people will cry their selves to sleep after receiving the most intense and articulate verbal bashing they have ever received. This game is our passion. Don't **** with it Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
Arcadiia Kain The Naughty Ninjas 6	Posted - 2015.01.22 17:27:00 - [123] - Quote Wow.... Ok, so.....Roman and CPM Whatever your name is....grow up. Seriously, both of you are supposed to represent something here. CPM respresenting CCPs interest, and Roman, a corp that commands respect (though personally, alot has been lost by me the further ive read). You bicker like two little schoolgirls. Stop it already. So, first let me say, I have played less than a year. I own just under 20m sp. Im lucky to have 20m isk in my own pocket. I have participated in a few PC battles. Now, lets start with what sucks about DUST, what I hear the most from everyone I know, those who PC, and those who don't. Protostomping pub matches. In a pub, your average player doesnt even have access, or funds to run proto. In fact, losing 2 suits means you are in the hole for the match. Have you seen guys die 10 times in a match, and known they were in proto the entire time? I have. Hell, I have put some of these guys down more than 5 times in a match, myself. Now, ask yourselves, who can lose 10 proto suits in pubs and not bat an eye? You guessed it, Murphy's Law, NS, AE, and those corps who own MH. These are the only guys doing this. You talk like you ARE the game. You ARE the playerbase. What you are is what IS killing this game. And what you are afraid of is losing your advantage. Part of me is warm and fuzzy watching you squirm at the idea that the easy pub stomps may come to a halt as the rest of the community gets a bite of your exclusive PC empire, and the ISK that comes with it. A good bit of you are nothing without your overpriced gear. Many of you die over and over to my Nomad's Rifle. I see so much cheap BS from your part of the community that it makes me cringe. Most of DUST's modded controller users.....you guys. Many of you aren't Elite, you are just so afraid of losing that you will stoop to any low to avoid it. That isn't being competitive, it's being downright thuggish. And it DOES drive people away. I have seen it. I have watched friends enjoy their way through battle academy, only to enter their first Niyan pubstomping....and delete DUST forever. I have played many shooters, and this one is the most brutal....because of the cheap "elite". If CCP knew what was good for them, proto wouldnt be allowed in pubs. Scrams and other commonly abused guns would have a hard cap on the ROF, and DUST would be a much more popular game. But we all know this is never going to happen. My corp wants to be part of the End Game. We know we cant compete with the "cheap elite" or even the fewer real Elite. We want to see the day when small, hard fighting corps who fight tooth and nail to make a name for themselves can compete with other small, growing corps. Three months into our life, we have enough for a clone pack. We have willing ringers saying "Do it, we will help you". Guys that CAN help us get the job done. So why havent we? Whats the point? It's so expensive that we won't be able to hold onto it. Even if we defend it when you come back the next day, we wont have the money for the clones when you do it the third day. Too much old money in the PC community. This is what makes it exclusive. Its not that we arent willing, its the sheer investment involved, and at the risk of just losing even more. We cant afford to run proto gear every time we spawn in any match we play. And even if we did, not all of us want to. To wrap up, I want to say that Roman surprised me. In the end, he made a suggestion. And a solid one. And Mr CPM.....his idea actually differs from the warbarge idea inany ways. Your shameful way of attacking him by saying its the same idea was just childish. You need to get past the self importance your title has given you and stay focused on ypur duty as CPM. Roman, don't gloat about that, you got issues, too, man. Im sure both of you are cool cats, and I'm sure I would like you both if I had the chance to play with you, but you guys vant take that crap to private messages and not make us read ypur petty bickering just to get to the meat of the problem. The Naughty Ninjas CEO Minmatar scout/assault
altair Dovahkiin Minmatar Republic 15	Posted - 2015.01.22 17:55:00 - [124] - Quote Roman837 wrote: Looks like CCP reads these posts aswell as they have been liking my posts. Want this game to die? Don't listen to me or other PC players. This is where you are the delusional one. We are the majority. Our corps are the pc corps. We are the ones killing and being killed. We are the ones playing that collects your data. Hence why every player in the top 200 om any leader board is a person who plays pc. That's why all top 20 weekly corp stats are from corps who play pc. We play the most. In pubs and pc. You want to make changes that mainly represent the causal players? The ones who might long on for an hour? Talk about a **** up logic. You would slap in the face those who are the most dedicated to appease the ones who are not? Mark my words. Put this on your wall post up. Anger the PC community and watch dust die. Anger the leaders who control those players...watch dust die. Continue listening to people who have no dam clue what they talking about. Watch dust die. Write that on your ***** wall. hello Roman I have to disagree with you. I work for a vary large company as a service representative and the opinion from a customer who does not buy our product is as important if not more then the customer,s who do buy them. this is why our company is one of the top in the world in our field. do not forget this may be a game to some but it is a business and to get more people in pc is good business and a if a few vet walk do to the changes then they were leaving anyway. you forget they have two more game modes full of player who spend money as well. so to get them involved will make them spend even more money. so if a hundred vet who spent hundred's of eur,gbp,hkd,inr,jpy,krw,mxn,rub,aed and usd get mad and quit but are replaced by a thousand who will spent the some. well that called business and as far as your NFL point it fall on it's face as the players do not buy the tickets fans do. no one is paying to see pc battle's. so mark my words your crying will go unnoticed as a customer who is never happy to be push aside like the customer i just got off the phone with so unless you tone it down a bit. all this will be for noting. Bravery doesn't mean you aren't scared. It means you go anyway
Roman837 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 881	Posted - 2015.01.22 18:33:00 - [125] - Quote Proto stomping in pubs is the issue? So...we should wear lower tier gear that we earned....to make things easier for you to kill us? Want to know why we wear proto gear in pubs? Because pubs is our practice to our pc. Ww que in with full squads. Not random squads. Our squads are selected from our corps...thay meet the needs of battle. Usually a heavy a logi and some assaults and scouts. And in that pub...we work together. And when I get killed in my proto heavy my proto logi with a needle picks me up. Yup I did 10 times. ...I lost 2 suits. Guess how we got that Isk. We grinded for it. You called my corp rich? Guess how much isk is in our corp wallet. Under 50 millions. Guess how much is in my personal wallet. 500 millions. 2 years of playing this game. .no other games. ..hundreds of pcs. And I have 500 million. Ans all of that I give away daily to poorer players. Bigger news flash. Guess how I saved up that isk. Buying and running aurum. Oh no...did Roman just admit that he used a system that ccp set up. Yup. I've probly spent 600 bucks on this game on aurum packs. Wait...what's that? There's more...Roman. how do you pay all of your players isk to keep them running proto? I buy plex on eve. And then give eve players eve isk. They then give me dust isk. Billions. So...how do I keep my guys affording their isk? With my real life money. Taxes pubs and pc...do not make corps money. You are very off the mark if you think after 6 pcs a night I say..wow...I made a tone of isk. I say...wow that was fun! Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
137H4RGIC Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 410	Posted - 2015.01.22 19:09:00 - [126] - Quote A-P-P-Baby wrote: Everyone's opinions should be valid. Roman, you're an abrasive individual. If you want your voice heard you could do it much more intelligently and constructively. Why don't you elect a diplomatic secretary from your newly created chat to take notes and gather the opinions? Have that person bring the opinions of the PC community as a whole to the proper channels in a polite and diplomatic way. Make sure that everyone agrees and makes it known that this person speaks for your custom channel of PC leaders and have him/her voice your concerns and feedback. You definitely should not be the one doing it. With that being said, I do agree that CCP should make a point of speaking directly to the active PC community and gathering as much data from them as possible. Most people I know who play PC daily want it to thrive. They want it to be more accessible to all. They want to fight someone different and not the same 7 groups of players every night. They are the ones who know more than anyone what is broken and what works. They are the ones staring at the star map every night and cross referencing with dotlan and various websites and spending countless hours not playing dust or on the forums. They are organizing, plotting, gathering intel. They are the ones having meetings with smaller corps and trying to give them districts to get them into PC. There is no way that CCP should be shutting out anyone's opinion be it of the average lone wolf pub guy or the most active PC involved CEO He's actually very passionate. But in his passion for this game, he becomes very abrasive and single minded for fear that change will destroy the game. I can see where soraya is coming from and I see where you are coming from. I don't play dust often but when I do, I love me some pc. I would love it more if more groups played as was mentioned, not just the same amount of guys. Pc is broken right now. It shouldn't require the community to reach a Geneva convention for molden heath warfare. I think the aim of cpm and ccp is to put pc in a place where no single entity can hold a monopoly over the existing districts, let alone obtain one in a week or two. That's just ridiculous. That's what makes eve great. Sure you have goons, but they can't own the cluster. Would opening all low sec and null sec distorts make a difference? Or not? Eliminate passive ISK? Actually, not that wouldn't work because those seven groups would just have more to work with. We would have what we have now on a bigger scale. I want to help DUST become a better experience for everyone. Let's work together! 137H4RGIC - Running for CPM2 (SOONGäó)
Arcadiia Kain The Naughty Ninjas 7	Posted - 2015.01.22 19:15:00 - [127] - Quote Really? You call that practice? Half the guys in pubs are in militia gear. Don't disrespect yourself to us like that! You either failed to read it all, or subtly forgot the entire part about cheap tactics like modded controllers, which some of your guys run (dont act like you dont know). Combine all this, you have a recipie for keeping new players away from this game. I have seen less cheapness per capita in cod games for christ sake. You know what kept me here despite all that crap? Loyalty. Loyalty to ccp and new eden. I spent $60 on dust this month, $70 last month. I encourage my corp to spend on it, too. I never said Aurum was a bad thing. In the contrary, if there was a "premium subscription", Iwould pay it. Thats how much I believe in the universe CCP built. Despite that, many aspects of this game are fundamentally flawed. Like PC. Do I believe you shouldn't wear the gear you earn? No. I don't feel that way at all. Do I feel that teiring works well in this game? Nope. CCP would find its player base growing if the players could choose the level if competition they play at. MLT-STD, STD-ADV, ADV-PROTO, meta mashup, PC. CCP is so "sandbox" that they dont even realize why their playerbase isnt growing. And I hate that. Such a style works for EVE, but DUST was to appeal to a larger target audience, and that target audience is fickle. Then there is "you guys" Someone said 10%.... Stop acting like you ARE DUST. You aren't. You are well outnumbered by the rest of us, and we deserve to enjoy all aspects of this game as much as you self proclaimed "elite" do. And btw, your personal wallet well exceeds the combined wallet of 20 average players. Your corp wallet may be smaller than my corp wallet currently, but Older corps have much, much more, due to a system CCP deemed abused and broken. I left this game for 2 months due to hand injuries sustauned in a motorcycle accident. Before I left, I never heard of your corp, when I returned, I saw you everywhere (and was impressed). Things change, man. Adapt and overcome. The Naughty Ninjas CEO Minmatar scout/assault
Roman837 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 883	Posted - 2015.01.22 19:22:00 - [128] - Quote Arcadiia Kain wrote: Really? You call that practice? Half the guys in pubs are in militia gear. Don't disrespect yourself to us like that! You either failed to read it all, or subtly forgot the entire part about cheap tactics like modded controllers, which some of your guys run (dont act like you dont know). Combine all this, you have a recipie for keeping new players away from this game. I have seen less cheapness per capita in cod games for christ sake. You know what kept me here despite all that crap? Loyalty. Loyalty to ccp and new eden. I spent $60 on dust this month, $70 last month. I encourage my corp to spend on it, too. I never said Aurum was a bad thing. In the contrary, if there was a "premium subscription", Iwould pay it. Thats how much I believe in the universe CCP built. Despite that, many aspects of this game are fundamentally flawed. Like PC. Do I believe you shouldn't wear the gear you earn? No. I don't feel that way at all. Do I feel that teiring works well in this game? Nope. CCP would find its player base growing if the players could choose the level if competition they play at. MLT-STD, STD-ADV, ADV-PROTO, meta mashup, PC. CCP is so "sandbox" that they dont even realize why their playerbase isnt growing. And I hate that. Such a style works for EVE, but DUST was to appeal to a larger target audience, and that target audience is fickle. Then there is "you guys" Someone said 10%.... Stop acting like you ARE DUST. You aren't. You are well outnumbered by the rest of us, and we deserve to enjoy all aspects of this game as much as you self proclaimed "elite" do. And btw, your personal wallet well exceeds the combined wallet of 20 average players. Your corp wallet may be smaller than my corp wallet currently, but Older corps have much, much more, due to a system CCP deemed abused and broken. I left this game for 2 months due to hand injuries sustauned in a motorcycle accident. Before I left, I never heard of your corp, when I returned, I saw you everywhere (and was impressed). Things change, man. Adapt and overcome. So many random points to this to respond to. If we don't represent the majority. ...why don't you all form a group and smash us? If we are vastly outnumbered use that to your advantage. Take us out. Earn your place in pc. We did. did you not read how I got that 500 million. 2 years of playing. Using aurum. Buying eve plex and trading for dust isk. You guys think we have billions we do not. One corp did. Nyain. Agreed. They broke 500 billion.. you want easy mode enabled. Why? Because you want to be where we are at...but faster. To lazy to get here how we did. That is the issue. You kids these days. Want everything handed to them. Others work hard to pave the road for you. Then you show up....and not only do you use our road...you want us to come pick you up to. Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
Jack Galen Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION 11	Posted - 2015.01.22 19:27:00 - [129] - Quote Roman837 wrote: So....should ccp reset eve? Who cares how hard the players who currently play have worked to get that far....let's accommodate the other people. Ha, that's funny. I fly in Eve. The difference there is that new players can be useful in Eve, by doing things like scramming and webbing people (no matter how basic a warp scrambler is, it still will scramble warp cores). Don't tell me that the same is true here, because no new player could be taken into a major PC and do anything other than die. Repeatedly. This is what Eve has over DUST; new players can join straight in with the vets. Two things are the reason: first, those in PC can afford to keep their districts, whereas fighting to keep a district just isn't viable as a small time corp. An old one I was in tried it, and it was great...for five days. We then got cleanly KOed by a long time PC corporation, who could easily finance attack after attack. We couldn't. The other issue is the lack of physical skill - DUST is different from other shooters, and takes time to learn how to play properly. You guys have the tight knit, tactical and wise group of people, which give you the immense advantage. The second point is absolutely fine, and should be encouraged, but it is very hard to get that and keep it going when trying to start regularly PCing is as demoralising as it currently is. But hey, that's just my opinion. Everything in moderation.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5821	Posted - 2015.01.22 19:41:00 - [130] - Quote Roman837 wrote: Arcadiia Kain wrote: Really? You call that practice? Half the guys in pubs are in militia gear. Don't disrespect yourself to us like that! You either failed to read it all, or subtly forgot the entire part about cheap tactics like modded controllers, which some of your guys run (dont act like you dont know). Combine all this, you have a recipie for keeping new players away from this game. I have seen less cheapness per capita in cod games for christ sake. You know what kept me here despite all that crap? Loyalty. Loyalty to ccp and new eden. I spent $60 on dust this month, $70 last month. I encourage my corp to spend on it, too. I never said Aurum was a bad thing. In the contrary, if there was a "premium subscription", Iwould pay it. Thats how much I believe in the universe CCP built. Despite that, many aspects of this game are fundamentally flawed. Like PC. Do I believe you shouldn't wear the gear you earn? No. I don't feel that way at all. Do I feel that teiring works well in this game? Nope. CCP would find its player base growing if the players could choose the level if competition they play at. MLT-STD, STD-ADV, ADV-PROTO, meta mashup, PC. CCP is so "sandbox" that they dont even realize why their playerbase isnt growing. And I hate that. Such a style works for EVE, but DUST was to appeal to a larger target audience, and that target audience is fickle. Then there is "you guys" Someone said 10%.... Stop acting like you ARE DUST. You aren't. You are well outnumbered by the rest of us, and we deserve to enjoy all aspects of this game as much as you self proclaimed "elite" do. And btw, your personal wallet well exceeds the combined wallet of 20 average players. Your corp wallet may be smaller than my corp wallet currently, but Older corps have much, much more, due to a system CCP deemed abused and broken. I left this game for 2 months due to hand injuries sustauned in a motorcycle accident. Before I left, I never heard of your corp, when I returned, I saw you everywhere (and was impressed). Things change, man. Adapt and overcome. So many random points to this to respond to. If we don't represent the majority. ...why don't you all form a group and smash us? If we are vastly outnumbered use that to your advantage. Take us out. Earn your place in pc. We did. did you not read how I got that 500 million. 2 years of playing. Using aurum. Buying eve plex and trading for dust isk. You guys think we have billions we do not. One corp did. Nyain. Agreed. They broke 500 billion.. you want easy mode enabled. Why? Because you want to be where we are at...but faster. To lazy to get here how we did. That is the issue. You kids these days. Want everything handed to them. Others work hard to pave the road for you. Then you show up....and not only do you use our road...you want us to come pick you up to. Good job dude. I think they are coming around to respecting your opinion. I doubt they are going to push CCP to do anything other than whatever your future proposal says. Try calling them scrubs and horrible people in general. I'm selling Templar Codes. 3 of 4 remaining. 200 mil ISK. Message me in game.

Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5821	Posted - 2015.01.22 19:46:00 - [131] - Quote Jack Galen wrote: Roman837 wrote: So....should ccp reset eve? Who cares how hard the players who currently play have worked to get that far....let's accommodate the other people. Ha, that's funny. I fly in Eve. The difference there is that new players can be useful in Eve, by doing things like scramming and webbing people (no matter how basic a warp scrambler is, it still will scramble warp cores). Don't tell me that the same is true here, because no new player could be taken into a major PC and do anything other than die. Repeatedly. This is what Eve has over DUST; new players can join straight in with the vets. Two things are the reason: first, those in PC can afford to keep their districts, whereas fighting to keep a district just isn't viable as a small time corp. An old one I was in tried it, and it was great...for five days. We then got cleanly KOed by a long time PC corporation, who could easily finance attack after attack. We couldn't. The other issue is the lack of physical skill - DUST is different from other shooters, and takes time to learn how to play properly. You guys have the tight knit, tactical and wise group of people, which give you the immense advantage. The second point is absolutely fine, and should be encouraged, but it is very hard to get that and keep it going when trying to start regularly PCing is as demoralising as it currently is. But hey, that's just my opinion. Everything in moderation. Imagine Eve if it were locked to 16 vs 16. Same maps 24/7. Then imagine if the only place to join a fleet bigger than 6 is null sec. I'm selling Templar Codes. 3 of 4 remaining. 200 mil ISK. Message me in game.
Freccia di Lybra Maphia Clan Corporation 374	Posted - 2015.01.22 20:05:00 - [132] - Quote Roman837 wrote: The reason I am being so "abrasive" is because I am in panic mode. I am in damage control mode. These changes will ruin our game. They will make my players not log on. Why? Ei fu, xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
brown COWgirl Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2015.01.22 20:22:00 - [133] - Quote Roman837 wrote: That is the issue. You kids these days. Want everything handed to them. Others work hard to pave the road for you. Then you show up....and not only do you use our road...you want us to come pick you up to. I'm sorry who's the kid's here mommy cry cry they change the rules of the game I'm going quit now. sniff sniff so I say again WHO IS THE KID HERE.
Roman837 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 884	Posted - 2015.01.22 20:41:00 - [134] - Quote brown COWgirl wrote: Roman837 wrote: That is the issue. You kids these days. Want everything handed to them. Others work hard to pave the road for you. Then you show up....and not only do you use our road...you want us to come pick you up to. I'm sorry who's the kid's here mommy cry cry they change the rules of the game I'm going quit now. sniff sniff so I say again WHO IS THE KID HERE. I've been in the game since the beginning. I've been through every situation this game has thrown. This is not crying Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5533	Posted - 2015.01.22 20:45:00 - [135] - Quote Roman837 wrote: This is not crying This thread is actually the greatest example of Internet crying I have ever seen. And I have seen a lot of Internet crying. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Cavani1EE7 Murphys-Law 878	Posted - 2015.01.22 20:57:00 - [136] - Quote PC players are phaggots, pubstars are the real voice of the community. As I'm writing this, a pub star is proposing/agreeing with region lock for PC. 10100111001 Shield tanking is hard mode /period. 10100111001
Roman837 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 884	Posted - 2015.01.22 21:07:00 - [137] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Roman837 wrote: This is not crying This thread is actually the greatest example of Internet crying I have ever seen. And I have seen a lot of Internet crying. So with these changes...are you going to enter pc? What happens....When. .If you do enter....we adapt...team up. ..and just wipe you out. Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5533	Posted - 2015.01.22 21:09:00 - [138] - Quote Roman837 wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Roman837 wrote: This is not crying This thread is actually the greatest example of Internet crying I have ever seen. And I have seen a lot of Internet crying. So with these changes...are you going to enter pc? What happens....When. .If you do enter....we adapt...team up. ..and just wipe you out. I am very hopeful the new PC system will be a lot more interesting and engaging, and I will find it worthwhile enough to participate in. Should you choose to come after me, I suppose that's a thing people do in Planetary Conquest, so more power to you. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Roman837 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 884	Posted - 2015.01.22 21:13:00 - [139] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Roman837 wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Roman837 wrote: This is not crying This thread is actually the greatest example of Internet crying I have ever seen. And I have seen a lot of Internet crying. So with these changes...are you going to enter pc? What happens....When. .If you do enter....we adapt...team up. ..and just wipe you out. I am very hopeful the new PC system will be a lot more interesting and engaging, and I will find it worthwhile enough to participate in. Should you choose to come after me, I suppose that's a thing people do in Planetary Conquest, so more power to you. It is very engaging now. It is why we still play. You just are to lazy to get into it now. Want us to give you our 3 districts and 5 billion isk? Wait 2 weeks...then see where your at? Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
Roman837 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 884	Posted - 2015.01.22 21:15:00 - [140] - Quote You will be in the same place your at now. Not in pc. and yes. If you wreck our game. I will be waiting for you to get a district. Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law

Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5533	Posted - 2015.01.22 21:17:00 - [141] - Quote Roman837 wrote: and yes. If you wreck our game. I will be waiting for you to get a district. Glad to hear you'll be playing the new version of Planetary Conquest! :D /troll CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Freccia di Lybra Maphia Clan Corporation 374	Posted - 2015.01.22 21:20:00 - [142] - Quote Roman837 wrote: It is very engaging now. It is why we still play. You just are to lazy to get into it now. Want us to give you our 3 districts and 5 billion isk? Wait 2 weeks...then see where your at? Is Murphys Law really that good? Ei fu, xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
Roman837 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 884	Posted - 2015.01.22 21:21:00 - [143] - Quote Freccia di Lybra wrote: Roman837 wrote: It is very engaging now. It is why we still play. You just are to lazy to get into it now. Want us to give you our 3 districts and 5 billion isk? Wait 2 weeks...then see where your at? Is Murphys Law really that good? Attack us. Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
Freccia di Lybra Maphia Clan Corporation 374	Posted - 2015.01.22 21:27:00 - [144] - Quote Roman837 wrote: Freccia di Lybra wrote: Roman837 wrote: It is very engaging now. It is why we still play. You just are to lazy to get into it now. Want us to give you our 3 districts and 5 billion isk? Wait 2 weeks...then see where your at? Is Murphys Law really that good? Attack us. Do you even know who you're talking to? Look, I seriously would regroup all my former corporation just to stop your wanton elitism, if I could. Ei fu, xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 7344	Posted - 2015.01.22 21:30:00 - [145] - Quote Atiim wrote: One Eyed King wrote: I never said he wasn't knowledgeable, nor do I doubt his PC experience or skill. Just that there are more levels of knowledge, and that being part of a broader discussion with a broader group will yield better results for Dust as a whole. I may disagree with people like Kain at times, but at least I can respect him bringing the discussion to the appropriate places and not feeling the need to hide from everyone. The problem with "there being more levels of knowledge", is that there aren't. If you haven't participated in Planetary Conquest you can't comment on which mecanics are bad and which ones are good, nor can you suggest which ones need to be improved on because your Intel is based on hearsay and is likely incorrect. These forums only consist of about 100 people at best, and when you have a playerbase of 4k that means only 3% of them will actually be heard by the DEVs. Compared to a channel with well over 100 members who are representing corps and groups with around 200+ members it's feedback on the forums which is actually being hidden. That aside, I don't see why so many players in this thread are opposed to CCP going into the channel to collect feedback from the ones who know what they're talking about. You'll still be able to make your terrible suggestions and act as if you know what you're talking about, but CCP will simply have feedback that will actually improve the situation. Brainstorming is about throwing as many ideas out there as you can, and then whittling them down. I have no problem with people telling me my bad ideas are bad. I ask why. They explain, and thus I have new knowledge I didn't have before. I am not saying that the rest of the community is smarter or more knowledgeable about PC. I am saying that there are enough smart, intelligent, non PC Dust players that can contribute to the discussion in one form or fashion. If they can't explain, or give reasons that suggest their ideas are in fact self serving, then it is important to point that out. This community may not have a lot of PC players, or even a lot of the player base, but it IS comprised of gamers, who may have outside experience, and have new ideas or features that would be excellent for end game content like PC. The forums are essentially a way to crowd source. Creativity is not monopolized by PC players. I don't care that they are collaborating and coming up with ideas. Being proactive is good. But it makes me and other question whether PC or being part of a corp is something I ever want to be part of when they suggest that their ideas are the only ones that should matter, and that they are too good to be part of the discussion with the rest of the community, which is how this thread comes off. Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5535	Posted - 2015.01.22 21:31:00 - [146] - Quote Freccia di Lybra wrote: Roman837 wrote: Attack us. Do you even know who you're talking to? Look, I seriously would regroup all my former corporation just to stop your wanton elitism, if I could. I want to buy tickets to this. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 7344	Posted - 2015.01.22 21:32:00 - [147] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Freccia di Lybra wrote: Roman837 wrote: Attack us. Do you even know who you're talking to? Look, I seriously would regroup all my former corporation just to stop your wanton elitism, if I could. I want to buy tickets to this. Do it. PLEAASE!!! Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
Roman837 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 886	Posted - 2015.01.22 21:33:00 - [148] - Quote Freccia di Lybra wrote: Roman837 wrote: Freccia di Lybra wrote: Roman837 wrote: It is very engaging now. It is why we still play. You just are to lazy to get into it now. Want us to give you our 3 districts and 5 billion isk? Wait 2 weeks...then see where your at? Is Murphys Law really that good? Attack us. Do you even know who you're talking to? Look, I seriously would regroup all my former corporation just to stop your wanton elitism, if I could. Not a clue. Nor do I care. You going to tell me..you use to be good or use to have a good team. Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
Freccia di Lybra Maphia Clan Corporation 377	Posted - 2015.01.22 21:35:00 - [149] - Quote Roman837 wrote: Freccia di Lybra wrote: Roman837 wrote: Freccia di Lybra wrote: Roman837 wrote: It is very engaging now. It is why we still play. You just are to lazy to get into it now. Want us to give you our 3 districts and 5 billion isk? Wait 2 weeks...then see where your at? Is Murphys Law really that good? Attack us. Do you even know who you're talking to? Look, I seriously would regroup all my former corporation just to stop your wanton elitism, if I could. Not a clue. Nor do I care. You going to tell me..you use to be good or use to have a good team. Then, sir, you have no word in anything PC related. Ei fu, xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
Roman837 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 886	Posted - 2015.01.22 21:40:00 - [150] - Quote Attack us. [/quote] Do you even know who you're talking to? Look, I seriously would regroup all my former corporation just to stop your wanton elitism, if I could.[/quote] Not a clue. Nor do I care. You going to tell me..you use to be good or use to have a good team.[/quote] Then, sir, you have no word in anything PC related. [/quote] lol. You some scrub some from scrub corp who was in 5 pcs before? Hilarious. And also so cute that you think you were ever important. Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law



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