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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.21 19:48:00 -
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Posted this in war room. Was told it would be seen faster here
Talking trash aside...politics aside and personal beefs aside. I love this game. The interaction in players is the most rewarding thing about it. We are a self run community. And we appreciate that you CCP take the time to listen to your players and make changes based on what we say . Even if it is at a slow rate. Change happens.
What I am mad about....is the people you are gathering your information from...to make changes to pc....are not even in pc. This is a Rediculous thing. Knowing stats on suits...and other geeky stats is great an all for those math wizards. But. ..do not for a second think that they are in any shape way or form involved in the most competitive form of your game. Planetary Conquest. Let them talk in general discussion about nerfing the gun that kills them. Given any gun in this game we have players in planetary conquest that would crush that same person complaining about an op gun. Give kalante a militia any gun and he will have general discussion players crying of op ness.-á
My sincere advise to you. Is create an in game chat channel. Make sure you eve protect it so no trolls can join it. And invite us into your chat. And talk with us. Please. Do not listen to some loser cpm or X cpm who does not even play your game. We do. We play it every day all day. Don't believe me ccp? If it's possible I want you to look up and post my planetary conquest only stats. You will see I pc multiple times a day every day. And know every single major pc player. We are the ones you should be talking to. No one should be advising you on game changes related to pc but us. We don't care about weapons and stat changes. We will adapt to what yiu give us and kill any pub player.
You need to consult us. Please create a channel and invite us to it. In 1 hour we can give you more dedication and constructive criticism then a years worth of cpm meetings.-á
Give us a time and a date. We will create the chat and organize it.
To the players reading this. Don't **** it up. If they do want to talk and listen to use keep you troll mouths shut. We will do the talking and we will help our game. One idiot talking trash or being a tough 12 year old on the Internet will ruin it for all or us.
I don't want this game to ever die. And planetary conquest is the only reason I still play it. Don't kill it by listening to people who do not play it.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
790
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Posted - 2015.01.21 20:11:00 -
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Pc mechanics being changed should come from feed back of those that play it. You won't hear me making any claims or ideas in regards to tanking because you will never catch me in one. The changes being proposed are by people who have no clue what they are talking about. They are hypothesising in other words talking out their dam asses
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
801
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Posted - 2015.01.21 21:34:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Ku Shala wrote:input from the PC community is important but the exclusiveness of pc is one of the problems with it. opinions from all sides are valuable at this point since pc mechanics will be entirely different from what they are now. This. Second response to the thread nailed it. Roman, we want a lot more than just the current PC crowd to enjoy PC. It's not going to work to just build a new PC based on Kane's feedback and your feedback. Designs that exclude a lot of other corps aren't going to fly, and the experiences of people who were pushed out of PC or stopped playing PC are actually a lot more valuable than the current PC crowd in determining where the design for PC went wrong. jane stalin wrote:My apologies , can someone tell me where these proporsed changes to PC are being discussed? I can only see references to timers. There's multiple threads on proposed PC changes in the Feedback and Ideas board.
Changes so that the entire community can enjoy? They can enjoy it now. They chose not to. Your right everyone should be included in discussing the changes. Including pc players. What pc players were consulted? Who? The changes being proposed is garbage. What your saying is the changes should accommodate the people currently not in pc...and anger the ones currently who are. That is horrible logic. Ares 514. People who play this game are the ones who this is for. Not you.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
802
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Posted - 2015.01.21 22:02:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Roman837 wrote:Changes so that the entire community can enjoy? They can enjoy it now. They chose not to. And that right there is why I value their opinions more than yours. ;) You don't see the problem. Roman837 wrote:Your right everyone should be included in discussing the changes. I usually am. :) Roman837 wrote:Including pc players. What pc players were consulted? Who? Zatara? And remember all the nonsense SoTa was bringing up claiming Zatara was idaring to solicit feedback from other people on ideas? Roman837 wrote:The changes being proposed is garbage. What your saying is the changes should accommodate the people currently not in pc...and anger the ones currently who are. That is horrible logic. Change is always hard. Especially when you're getting a harsh nerf. I don't think post-changes it should be possible to have a giant PC empire anymore. I expect a lot of people who expect to have a large PC empire, and are used to managing things on that scale, to be upset with that. I certainly want the design to reward top end skill and ability, though hopefully not by allowing them to control the game board.
CCP. If you are reading this. And you implement a change that is based off of this morons views and inputs. ...I can guarentee you will lose the remainder of your competitive players.
When was the last time this person was in a PC? Please talk to us. Not them. That is what I am asking. Discuss it with the players it involves!
We already have a chat formed. We had a very long meeting on it last night. We are all in agreement. And by we I mean the leaders of the corps currently in pc.
Do not listen to people who are not involved to make big decisions.
Zatara? Who is Zatara. I wasted my vote on him I think. Is he the cpm of destiny?
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
802
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Posted - 2015.01.21 22:06:00 -
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So....should ccp reset eve? Who cares how hard the players who currently play have worked to get that far....let's accommodate the other people.
If people want in pc. They work for it. It's a game mode of competitiveness. Should the NFL allow in every team who can field players into their league? Make changes to accommodate the people not in it? Why even have pc then. Why grind and become known in this game. Why work hard. Form corps...alliances. why have game politics. Diplomats.
Rediculous. If people want in pc. Earn their way in. If you 10 person corp wants a district. Form a bigger corp. Train them and fight your way in. Or join a larger corp and prove your good enough .
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
803
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Posted - 2015.01.21 22:18:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Roman837 wrote:When was the last time this person was in a PC? Please talk to us. Not them. That is what I am asking. Discuss it with the players it involves! Note the feedback threads where CCP is soliciting feedback form the players. But rather do that, you're persisting in fostering a drama llama in GD. Go participate in the feedback threads in a competent way, or stop crying about not being listened to. Don't give homes to drama llamas. Just don't. Roman837 wrote:We already have a chat formed. We had a very long meeting on it last night. We are all in agreement. And by we I mean the leaders of the corps currently in pc. Nobody cares about your chat channel.
No body cares about our chat channel? So the 40 CEOs and big names in pc don't matter? You're on glue. What will ccp do when we boycott pc? Or we all say **** it. We're out. We are the ones playing this game as it's intended. Full out
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
806
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Posted - 2015.01.21 22:26:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:I'm not allowed into PC no matter what corp I join...  Because I use ADV mods on a PRO suit with a PRO weapon. That and they are not in PC because all the big corps knock them out of it. I can't join those for PC because I have no mic and that is something everyone requires. *Sigh* Besides, I haven't been there much. Just studying facts on PC from starmap. 
What sport do you follow so I can use the proper analogy go explain this to you. **** it. I'll explain it using many.
Should everyone who can throw a foot ball be in the NFL? Join a Better Corp and increase your teams skills using factional warfare. And then play against other equal skilled corps when you join pc. We have a last district rule and give away dozens of districts. You need not fear bigger corps. If one picks on you. ..we sort then out as a community.
You openly admit to not wearing full proto in pc. So...In hockey...that's be like allowing your goalie to play without using his stick or catcher glove. Your effectively down a player.
You chose not to use a mic? Or don't have one. This game is about communication and adapting based on that communication. If I say...hey who is that on Charlie. ..and its you....how can I know in planetary conquest when your letter is being pushed and by who. If it's a tank I'll send a. If it's an amarr scout it won't send Jade. We need to know where yiu are and what you see.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
806
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Posted - 2015.01.21 22:33:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Moorian Flav wrote:I think the feedback from those who have actually spent time in PC should carry more weight than those who have barely participated in PC. After all, you need to squad and actually use teamwork and corp management to survive in PC; something most players and corps do not know much about. Absolutely nothing is stopping Roman from participating in the feedback threads. Nothing. Well, except for the fact that Rattati expects arguments based on logic and not QQ.
and absolutely nothing is stopping you or your corp from being in planetary conquest. Other then the fact that your junk. And this is your way of QQing. Ruining it for us that have worked so hard to get where we're at.
CCP. PLEASE RESPOND AND JOIN OUR CHAT.
we are sorry we don't post all the time in feedback. We're to busy playing your game. We do how ever...have lots of feedback. Just you chose to listen to idiots like this cpm who talks out his ass
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
807
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Posted - 2015.01.21 23:03:00 -
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This game will die if you take away our competitiveness. Or...it may aswell die as we PC players are the ones most active and funding this game. We are keeping our players logging on. We are doing it. The CEOS of the active pc corps. Not the cpm. We provide our guys content...which keeps then logging on. News flash we create fake wars and drama...just so our guys keep playing and are interested. We are holding on by mere threads.
This idiot arguing with me is the scissors that's about to cut that thread. How fun will pc be when we are all gone. Literally. All of us.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
807
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Posted - 2015.01.21 23:06:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Thor, stacking timers at best just makes the next 16 relevant, or the next 16 relevant. Stacking timers is not a useful methodology for good gameplay. It still means you will always be grabbing the best possible available people at the time. It's still very exclusionary. Mass attacks are a casualty of the existing bad game design. We need a game design that doesn't need mass attacking to make progress.
What? What! So...eliminate the need for alliances just because your a horrible diplomat and are butt hurt your corp never amounted to anything? The fear of being mass attacked and the ability to organize one makes this game exciting. I have been on the offense and defence. Won and lost. Wiped people out and have been wiped out. Remove that element and we may aswell pub stomp.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
807
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Posted - 2015.01.21 23:17:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Roman837 wrote:This game will die if you take away our competitiveness. Or...it may aswell die as we PC players are the ones most active and funding this game. We are keeping our players logging on. We are doing it. The CEOS of the active pc corps. Not the cpm. We provide our guys content...which keeps then logging on. News flash we create fake wars and drama...just so our guys keep playing and are interested. We are holding on by mere threads.
This idiot arguing with me is the scissors that's about to cut that thread. How fun will pc be when we are all gone. Literally. All of us. Roman, you don't have to take away the competitiveness of PC to open the game up to more people. They dropped the ball in not giving players a way to team deploy outside of PC. From the start the gamemode was heavily rigged in the favor of beta players with all the experience. By that time most of the talent had pooled. Then even more so as corps failed and the talent kept getting more condensed. Then you had a ton of people quit altogether. Now we are here with a tiny, tiny portion of the player base with all this talent, SP, ISK, and experience. It's in CCP's best interest for more players to get a taste of that. They have to do something to make it accessible to them. I STILL don't see anybody heavily involved in PC offering up suggestions to grow the level of participation in PC.
Best advice to get people into pc. Practice. Train. Become the best you can be. Apply to a corp involved in pc...or form one yourself and recruit. It it should not be easy to get into pc. You have to earn your way. If we just allow everyone in...well what's the point.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
808
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Posted - 2015.01.21 23:23:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Roman837 wrote:This game will die if you take away our competitiveness. Or...it may aswell die as we PC players are the ones most active and funding this game. We are keeping our players logging on. We are doing it. The CEOS of the active pc corps. Not the cpm. We provide our guys content...which keeps then logging on. News flash we create fake wars and drama...just so our guys keep playing and are interested. We are holding on by mere threads.
This idiot arguing with me is the scissors that's about to cut that thread. How fun will pc be when we are all gone. Literally. All of us. Nobody's "taking away your competitiveness". If you're as good as you say, you'll thrive in the new system. And again, nobody but yourself is excluding your feedback, because you're still making drama in GD instead of posting in the feedback thread. Thor Odinson42 wrote:But 24 hour notice makes the organized mass attack possible. It's the only alternative if you don't have 16 better than their 16, hence the stagnation of PC. And that is something that we need to fix. Ensuring that there are other ways to wear down a team, and combat options that don't require 24 hour notice (raiding). Trying to keep a bad system like changing timers just for mass attacks is a bad idea.
So I'm posting on the wrong thread. My bad. I play this game. I really enjoy it. I don't read any of the changes. I usually just adapt. And I'm dam good at adapting. But when my players send me mails. And they say "yo go read what that bafoon is typing on the forums. Those changes are gonna hurt us" dam right I go look. I post in the war room.
That is where war fighting happens. That is where posts about planetary conquest happen. I don't care about weapon and suit stats. Give us all lil fluffy feathers that do tickle damage. I'm fine with it. I'll organize a team and out tickle the opponents.
But try to limit how we play...and take away our corps power to set our own timers.... well now your messing with our game.
I am a PC player. Not a stat and game mechanics on forums follower. You are not a pc player. I won't comment on stats....you shouldn't comment on pc.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
808
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Posted - 2015.01.21 23:27:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Roman837 wrote:Best advice to get people into pc. Practice. Train. Become the best you can be. Apply to a corp involved in pc...or form one yourself and recruit. It it should not be easy to get into pc. You have to earn your way. If we just allow everyone in...well what's the point. If nobody got it yet, Roman's interested in retaining the status quo.
If no body gets it yet. ..This guy couldn't handle the status quo. And is pushing for something that may allow him in...temporarily. then he will change it again go suit him.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
808
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Posted - 2015.01.21 23:30:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Roman837 wrote:This game will die if you take away our competitiveness. Or...it may aswell die as we PC players are the ones most active and funding this game. We are keeping our players logging on. We are doing it. The CEOS of the active pc corps. Not the cpm. We provide our guys content...which keeps then logging on. News flash we create fake wars and drama...just so our guys keep playing and are interested. We are holding on by mere threads.
This idiot arguing with me is the scissors that's about to cut that thread. How fun will pc be when we are all gone. Literally. All of us. Nobody's "taking away your competitiveness". If you're as good as you say, you'll thrive in the new system. And again, nobody but yourself is excluding your feedback, because you're still making drama in GD instead of posting in the feedback thread. Thor Odinson42 wrote:But 24 hour notice makes the organized mass attack possible. It's the only alternative if you don't have 16 better than their 16, hence the stagnation of PC. And that is something that we need to fix. Ensuring that there are other ways to wear down a team, and combat options that don't require 24 hour notice (raiding). Trying to keep a bad system like changing timers just for mass attacks is a bad idea. The only way the raiding system works is if NOT maintaining those districts (no showing) leads to real attacks being possible right away. If this is possible then a Faction Warfare Army could have 200 people online raiding the crap out people's districts and probably get some land out of it. They wouldn't be able to hold it very long, but it would provide an avenue for players to get a taste of PC. I think new corps would spawn from these initial "zerg fest" corps that would want more. I still think that regular attacks should happen right then and there. 30 minute notice. But the window timers are set to your prime time. Your guys that want to get on the PC team are defending against raids and proving themselves. Your PC team is in the PC chat getting ready to attack and BAM someone attacks them. One of the squad leaders is dropping from the A team to FC the B team to attack while the A team defends. It's all the same, you are in your chats doing PC stuff anyway. You are just handling things right away instead of 24 hour planning. It removes the part that many people hate the most, the waiting in the PC chat for 30 minutes to not get picked up.
So you want to force your pc players to be online every single day waiting to be attacked? I'd rather know the attacks in 24 hours...that way I know and my players know that the next night is fight night yiu can make plans...In RL. .and in game to accommodate. Or...that one night yiu don't log on..your team folds
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
809
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Posted - 2015.01.21 23:53:00 -
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Bang on snuggles
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
816
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Posted - 2015.01.22 00:39:00 -
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Bethhy is absolutely correct.
CCP. Meet with us on voice comms. Please. I will do my best to keep all known trolls out of the chat. It will be CEOS of active corps. We have the chat already. We love your game...your just being guided by people who have no clue what they are talking about
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
829
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Posted - 2015.01.22 01:01:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Sticky Nuts RND wrote:CCP how do you propose new players can afford to play PC and what is the incentive to do so if they have no isk? Why not bring passive ISK back to PC so new corps can actually afford or want to afford it? Also how do you justify punishing the team that wins with this raid PC mode? win and lose money what are you president Obama now? losers win and winners get penalized?? come on this is not what the player base wants and all you are doing is forcing players to find new games to play. Because the system was abused and resulted in a bunch of veterans who proto stomped noobs right out of this game. They locked their districts so they could have easy money with no risk. Or does my opinion not matter because I have never PC'd. Elitists like Roman are WHY I don't PC. They have their head so far up their ass they can't see straight, and they mistake the ability to play a game is not the same set of skills required to analyze an environment and give constructive feedback. I have seen relatively new players give great feedback regarding this game, regardless of their inexperience. Lastly, Roman, your NFL argument is flawed. Randy Moss may make the HoF, but he couldn't hold a candle to Belichek's knowledge of the game despite the fact he never played about Division III NCAA football. If you really want to give your feedback, don't act like there aren't ways to do so just because they didn't come to you directly.
Apparently you didn't read what this thread is about. It's about changes go the current form of pc. So yes...your feed back on those changes means as much as **** on a bull. Because you don't pc. How an you comment on what to change if you don't know what we use to be changed?
Did I just get called an elitist? I worked my ass off to get where I am. Started as a brand new blueberry not knowing what the **** to do. I liked the idea of the game. ...and realized I couldn't do it alone. So I joined the first corp I saw with a squad. STB. After months of grinding and learning. I was asked based off my skills to be on standby for a corp battle. I was super excited. I waited and listened on comms at the intricacy and detail that went into setting up and planning and bam...I was hooked. I wanted to do that. So...I stuck with it. Kept training my skills. Listening and learning. Getting into the odd pc. Finally. I started getting played more often. And...then I became a squad leader. Then the fc had to take a break...so I stepped up. I lost a lot of pcs. But I kept trying. Eventually my skill as a fc lead me to be a director. And now a CEO.
I did that. Myself. Not with ccp giving me a hand out. It took over 2 years to get where I am. My corp fights pcs daily. Vs everyone. We just got our asses kicked. Guess what still here. Ain't going anywhere.
You want to remove the best things about this game. You get what you put into it. Get good.
I'll be back to read your forum post replies in an hour and a half. I have stacked pc timers and must organize my allies into fielding a team for me. Which is awsome. Both are defends.
Don't ruin this game
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
855
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Posted - 2015.01.22 02:37:00 -
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Wait wait wait. Did he honestly just say...that one does not have to experience pc....to understand pc?
Using the famous quote from a living dust genius and philanthropist. "So...your telling me that if a 1000 friends tell you how to bang a girl. ..that it instantly give you 15 minutes of stamina and makes you a **** star" -xSaphir3
Ya.....your argument is invalid.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
868
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Posted - 2015.01.22 13:09:00 -
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CCP. Please respond to us. Talk to us before making any changes. There is no rush to making a change and making a release. No one will be upset if you delay an update if it means it's the perfect update.
We don't care if it takes another month. Just make it the correct update and changes and not one that's gonna kill everything we have worked for!
What's more important....being loyal to the people who have been loyal to you? Stuck it out with you....for over 2 years...we are the pc players. Or is it more important to appease everyone else? The casuals of this game....The ones who will leave when some new flash game comes along.
Please pick us.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
868
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Posted - 2015.01.22 13:32:00 -
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Oh wow. Just had a moment of clarity. CCP....If you want corps and players to become more involved in PC without them needing to risk isk..or getting removed...I have a perfect option!
Give each corp...a home base...a Perma district. A fake district. Don't put it in any of the real districts spots...Make it so your corp has to have a set amount of corp members to unlock your corps home world. Make this district have the ability to be set to. ...online or offline. Online. ..meaning it can launch an attack....and be attacked... but not flipped....and no offline....so that if they want a break from pc they don't get attacked.
Make these districts not part of current pc format. Almost like a corp battle separate mode. Allow them to choose and change their infrastructure for free. And let them launch clones against each other. ..Annnd news flash. ..yes allow them to launch an attack against MH...When they are ready to move into the real world.
This would solve so many issues. Would give corps a home world which is amazing. And will allow them to practice and test out pc without the huge isk commitment or risk of being removed. They can fight at their leisure
...and then come join us.
Roman just won dust
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
876
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Posted - 2015.01.22 14:44:00 -
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Make it so that district only can launch 200 clones....and make it have a cool down timer. So they can't re attack the next night. This will give them a taste. Then. ...If they get attacked....they instantly have 200 defenders. Bam...This would be awsome. They can attack and get a taste. ...and if attacked still have clones to defend...The clones left defending is separate from the attacking clones....and no the attacking clones are on a cool down timer.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
876
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Posted - 2015.01.22 14:46:00 -
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And yes CCP...As of April I am available for hire. Wages negotiable between isk and real money.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
879
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Posted - 2015.01.22 15:05:00 -
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I hope you didn't plan on running for cpm again next year. I'll make it my dust goal to either ensure you don't get reelected...or that I do just so I can shut you up on comms when you make stupid decisions.
I will call my platform. The United Corps Against Stupid Decisions.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
879
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Posted - 2015.01.22 15:06:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Roman837 wrote:Oh wow. Just had a moment of clarity. CCP....If you want corps and players to become more involved in PC without them needing to risk isk..or getting removed...I have a perfect option!
Give each corp...a home base...a Perma district. A fake district. Don't put it in any of the real districts spots...Make it so your corp has to have a set amount of corp members to unlock your corps home world. Make this district have the ability to be set to. ...online or offline. Online. ..meaning it can launch an attack....and be attacked... but not flipped....and no offline....so that if they want a break from pc they don't get attacked.
Make these districts not part of current pc format. Almost like a corp battle separate mode. Allow them to choose and change their infrastructure for free. And let them launch clones against each other. ..Annnd news flash. ..yes allow them to launch an attack against MH...When they are ready to move into the real world.
This would solve so many issues. Would give corps a home world which is amazing. And will allow them to practice and test out pc without the huge isk commitment or risk of being removed. They can fight at their leisure
...and then come join us.
Roman just won dust It's like in your moment of clarify... you kinda sorta maybe figured out what CCP was already doing. The whole corporate warbarge thing is like your corp's headquarters, which generates clone packs you can launch attacks from... You didn't really win DUST. In fact, you're kinda late to the party. :/
Also. ..late to the party? I'm the one always hosting the dam party. Or being invited to others. Your the loser who sits at home and creeps our pics and posts on Facebook and is Sooo upset you call in noise complaints to ruin our fun because you're not apart of it
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
879
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Posted - 2015.01.22 15:11:00 -
[25] - Quote
You got us old master poster Cpm. You have proven that if we don't always read the forums and make stupid posts....that our voices won't be heard. You got us! We post in the war room. Where pc players belong.
Look what happens when we do post? You try to **** on us. This change is directed at PC correct? Well shouldn't you be voicing the opinions of PC players?
The role of a voted in member is not to push their own agenda and hope the masses back them. It's to voice the members wishes...and represent them. Even if you don't agree. Your a voice. A tool.
We the pc players make up a huge majority of active players. And I am among the most active of that group.
I am voicing the opinions and thoughts of our players.
Collectively. ..I bet they think you're an idiot for pushing your own a agenda on a topic you don't even participate in. Please stick to your area of expertise. Getting crushed in pubs.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
881
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Posted - 2015.01.22 16:23:00 -
[26] - Quote
Looks like CCP reads these posts aswell as they have been liking my posts.
Want this game to die? Don't listen to me or other PC players. This is where you are the delusional one. We are the majority. Our corps are the pc corps. We are the ones killing and being killed. We are the ones playing that collects your data. Hence why every player in the top 200 om any leader board is a person who plays pc. That's why all top 20 weekly corp stats are from corps who play pc.
We play the most. In pubs and pc. You want to make changes that mainly represent the causal players? The ones who might long on for an hour?
Talk about a ****** up logic. You would slap in the face those who are the most dedicated to appease the ones who are not?
Mark my words. Put this on your wall post up. Anger the PC community and watch dust die.
Anger the leaders who control those players...watch dust die.
Continue listening to people who have no dam clue what they talking about. Watch dust die.
Write that on your ******* wall.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
881
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Posted - 2015.01.22 16:42:00 -
[27] - Quote
If CCP wanted the best ever data collection and feed back possible. They wouldn't need me to make a post that will just get lost in a sea of us less posts. They will contact us.
You know what would be the most amazing thing ever?
If one day I work up and logged on and my notifications on dust said "your district on oddelulf has been attacked" and then in the description of who attacked us. It would be CCP. I would have a nightmare picking who to bring in. People would be so super excited.
Everyone would love that. A chance to show CCP how much we love their game. ..by stomping them with our favorite suits and weapons.
This game isn't stats and numbers. It's team work. Planning. Organization. Moral...and being able to raise your players moral.
We worked for where we're at. Wasn't easy mode like your suggesting.
We're proud of our accomplishments. Don't take it away
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
881
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Posted - 2015.01.22 17:09:00 -
[28] - Quote
For a person I have never had a conversation with you seem to presume to know me. Abrasives? Is that the word your choosing to replace honest with? Or the words straight forward? How about I know what I am talking about.
The second half of your message is a very accurate description of me. You stalking me?
My posts here may be "abrasive" but any one who has ever had me on comms with them know I am a great communicator and very pleasant.
The reason I am being so "abrasive" is because I am in panic mode. I am in damage control mode. These changes will ruin our game. They will make my players not log on.
I owe those players the loyalty to stand up for them. I owe players I fight with daily the loyalty to fight for their game.
Put CCP the CPM and myself with a few chosen individuals in a room together and give us an hour. CPM will be fired and dust will be on the right track. And a few people will cry their selves to sleep after receiving the most intense and articulate verbal bashing they have ever received.
This game is our passion. Don't **** with it
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
881
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Posted - 2015.01.22 18:33:00 -
[29] - Quote
Proto stomping in pubs is the issue? So...we should wear lower tier gear that we earned....to make things easier for you to kill us? Want to know why we wear proto gear in pubs? Because pubs is our practice to our pc. Ww que in with full squads. Not random squads. Our squads are selected from our corps...thay meet the needs of battle. Usually a heavy a logi and some assaults and scouts. And in that pub...we work together. And when I get killed in my proto heavy my proto logi with a needle picks me up. Yup I did 10 times. ...I lost 2 suits.
Guess how we got that Isk. We grinded for it. You called my corp rich?
Guess how much isk is in our corp wallet. Under 50 millions. Guess how much is in my personal wallet. 500 millions.
2 years of playing this game. .no other games. ..hundreds of pcs. And I have 500 million. Ans all of that I give away daily to poorer players.
Bigger news flash. Guess how I saved up that isk. Buying and running aurum. Oh no...did Roman just admit that he used a system that ccp set up. Yup. I've probly spent 600 bucks on this game on aurum packs.
Wait...what's that? There's more...Roman. how do you pay all of your players isk to keep them running proto?
I buy plex on eve. And then give eve players eve isk. They then give me dust isk. Billions. So...how do I keep my guys affording their isk? With my real life money.
Taxes pubs and pc...do not make corps money. You are very off the mark if you think after 6 pcs a night I say..wow...I made a tone of isk.
I say...wow that was fun!
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
883
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Posted - 2015.01.22 19:22:00 -
[30] - Quote
Arcadiia Kain wrote:Really?
You call that practice? Half the guys in pubs are in militia gear.
Don't disrespect yourself to us like that!
You either failed to read it all, or subtly forgot the entire part about cheap tactics like modded controllers, which some of your guys run (dont act like you dont know). Combine all this, you have a recipie for keeping new players away from this game.
I have seen less cheapness per capita in cod games for christ sake.
You know what kept me here despite all that crap?
Loyalty.
Loyalty to ccp and new eden.
I spent $60 on dust this month, $70 last month.
I encourage my corp to spend on it, too.
I never said Aurum was a bad thing. In the contrary, if there was a "premium subscription", Iwould pay it.
Thats how much I believe in the universe CCP built.
Despite that, many aspects of this game are fundamentally flawed.
Like PC.
Do I believe you shouldn't wear the gear you earn?
No. I don't feel that way at all.
Do I feel that teiring works well in this game?
Nope.
CCP would find its player base growing if the players could choose the level if competition they play at.
MLT-STD, STD-ADV, ADV-PROTO, meta mashup, PC.
CCP is so "sandbox" that they dont even realize why their playerbase isnt growing.
And I hate that.
Such a style works for EVE, but DUST was to appeal to a larger target audience, and that target audience is fickle. Then there is "you guys"
Someone said 10%....
Stop acting like you ARE DUST.
You aren't.
You are well outnumbered by the rest of us, and we deserve to enjoy all aspects of this game as much as you self proclaimed "elite" do.
And btw, your personal wallet well exceeds the combined wallet of 20 average players.
Your corp wallet may be smaller than my corp wallet currently, but Older corps have much, much more, due to a system CCP deemed abused and broken.
I left this game for 2 months due to hand injuries sustauned in a motorcycle accident. Before I left, I never heard of your corp, when I returned, I saw you everywhere (and was impressed).
Things change, man.
Adapt and overcome.
So many random points to this to respond to. If we don't represent the majority. ...why don't you all form a group and smash us? If we are vastly outnumbered use that to your advantage. Take us out. Earn your place in pc. We did.
did you not read how I got that 500 million. 2 years of playing. Using aurum. Buying eve plex and trading for dust isk. You guys think we have billions we do not. One corp did. Nyain. Agreed. They broke 500 billion..
you want easy mode enabled. Why? Because you want to be where we are at...but faster. To lazy to get here how we did.
That is the issue. You kids these days. Want everything handed to them. Others work hard to pave the road for you. Then you show up....and not only do you use our road...you want us to come pick you up to.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
884
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Posted - 2015.01.22 20:41:00 -
[31] - Quote
brown COWgirl wrote:Roman837 wrote:
That is the issue. You kids these days. Want everything handed to them. Others work hard to pave the road for you. Then you show up....and not only do you use our road...you want us to come pick you up to.
I'm sorry who's the kid's here mommy cry cry they change the rules of the game I'm going quit now. sniff sniff so I say again WHO IS THE KID HERE.
I've been in the game since the beginning. I've been through every situation this game has thrown.
This is not crying
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
884
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Posted - 2015.01.22 21:07:00 -
[32] - Quote
Soraya Xel wrote:Roman837 wrote:This is not crying This thread is actually the greatest example of Internet crying I have ever seen. And I have seen a lot of Internet crying.
So with these changes...are you going to enter pc? What happens....When. .If you do enter....we adapt...team up. ..and just wipe you out.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
884
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Posted - 2015.01.22 21:13:00 -
[33] - Quote
Soraya Xel wrote:Roman837 wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Roman837 wrote:This is not crying This thread is actually the greatest example of Internet crying I have ever seen. And I have seen a lot of Internet crying. So with these changes...are you going to enter pc? What happens....When. .If you do enter....we adapt...team up. ..and just wipe you out. I am very hopeful the new PC system will be a lot more interesting and engaging, and I will find it worthwhile enough to participate in. Should you choose to come after me, I suppose that's a thing people do in Planetary Conquest, so more power to you.
It is very engaging now. It is why we still play. You just are to lazy to get into it now. Want us to give you our 3 districts and 5 billion isk? Wait 2 weeks...then see where your at?
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
884
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Posted - 2015.01.22 21:15:00 -
[34] - Quote
You will be in the same place your at now. Not in pc.
and yes. If you wreck our game. I will be waiting for you to get a district.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
884
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Posted - 2015.01.22 21:21:00 -
[35] - Quote
Freccia di Lybra wrote:Roman837 wrote:
It is very engaging now. It is why we still play. You just are to lazy to get into it now. Want us to give you our 3 districts and 5 billion isk? Wait 2 weeks...then see where your at?
Is Murphys Law really that good?
Attack us.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
886
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Posted - 2015.01.22 21:33:00 -
[36] - Quote
Freccia di Lybra wrote:Roman837 wrote:Freccia di Lybra wrote:Roman837 wrote:
It is very engaging now. It is why we still play. You just are to lazy to get into it now. Want us to give you our 3 districts and 5 billion isk? Wait 2 weeks...then see where your at?
Is Murphys Law really that good? Attack us. Do you even know who you're talking to? Look, I seriously would regroup all my former corporation just to stop your wanton elitism, if I could.
Not a clue. Nor do I care. You going to tell me..you use to be good or use to have a good team.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
886
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Posted - 2015.01.22 21:40:00 -
[37] - Quote
Attack us.
[/quote]
Do you even know who you're talking to?
Look, I seriously would regroup all my former corporation just to stop your wanton elitism, if I could.[/quote]
Not a clue. Nor do I care. You going to tell me..you use to be good or use to have a good team.[/quote]
Then, sir, you have no word in anything PC related. [/quote]
lol. You some scrub some from scrub corp who was in 5 pcs before? Hilarious. And also so cute that you think you were ever important.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
889
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Posted - 2015.01.22 23:35:00 -
[38] - Quote
Are you saying Maphia clan use to be a big player in pc?
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
891
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Posted - 2015.01.23 00:21:00 -
[39] - Quote
Freccia di Lybra wrote:Roman837 wrote:Are you saying Maphia clan use to be a big player in pc? Never said that. Big players have been Seraphim, What the French, Synergy, Teamplayers, GAC, AE, Outer Heaven and Nyan. But that's it. Still, owning Sakulda V for three months and lose it when all of our players left is at least honorable to me. You are acting like PC is yours and you and your corporation rule PC. You also pretend that the same PC that drove away my mates from Dust is ok, timers which destroyed my alliance are ok, and that no one except you and other few has the right to decide what's wrong and what is right. Fly down, if there still was the corporations I mentioned above and all the other corporation that disappeared, you or your corporation wouldn't even have the possibility to play a PC match. And you would be in the same situation as the newberries you are harassing. The timer thing is a very old issue and thanks God they've finally woke up but there are still the framerate lag and the network lag issues to be solved.
Haha haha hahahaha. Oh god that's funny. You owned one planet did you? Awsome job. I've been in pc since it came out. Fought in every major war. PC is a daily thing for me. The corps you mentioned. Know me. I have fought all of them.
This is why we don't post in general discussion or in feed back. Because it's pointless talking to the people who dwell here.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
892
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Posted - 2015.01.23 01:53:00 -
[40] - Quote
Arcadiia Kain wrote:Roman, Dude. The further along this thread goes, the more clinicly delusional you apear to be.
Your corp shows up a few months ago and takes some districts, and now YOU (im talking about you alone) act like you ARE Dust.
And the truth is, you dont amount to crap, yourself. You are nothing without the players who support you. All of whom came from somewhere else before that fell apart, and will go somewhere else when you RIP IT APART, because that is what delusional leaders do.
I give you three months.
You feed these "i am all important, i am god" lines to your corp. Moral begins to suffer. Couple guys leave. You suffer a few losses as a corp that hit you hard. A few more leave.
Two new corps pop up, all formerly ML members.
In a week, they own half your former districts.
ML is reduced to a shadow of what it is now.
You look back and realise this 35 year old "kid" has been around long enough to know how online communities roll, and he called it three months before it went down.
It always goes down.
You WILL fall.
hahahahaha. Oh mman.we started this corp 5 months ago. From our former corp of 4 months. We have dominated in pc for 9 months. Before that we dominated in other corps.
You people commenting have no clue what they talking about. Come pc with us.
We have wiped people out. We have been wiped out. We're still here because we love the game.
What ever changes happen. You think it's going to make us weak? Good luck
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
894
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Posted - 2015.01.23 02:49:00 -
[41] - Quote
Do you morons...honestly think...that these changes will make us worse? No. What it's going to do....is make you think your good. This isn't going to take anything away from us.
We fought tooth and nail to get where we are at. You typed on the forums. When these changes happen. ..and there is fighting to be done. Who do you thinks going to come out on top. We will.
God complex. No. I'm a scrub player. Everyone knows this. But I'm one dam good FC and CEO. And I look after my guys. You are going to dilute what we worked hard to accomplish.
Awsome.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
894
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Posted - 2015.01.23 03:19:00 -
[42] - Quote
137H4RGIC wrote:Roman837 wrote:Do you morons...honestly think...that these changes will make us worse? No. What it's going to do....is make you think your good. This isn't going to take anything away from us.
We fought tooth and nail to get where we are at. You typed on the forums. When these changes happen. ..and there is fighting to be done. Who do you thinks going to come out on top. We will.
God complex. No. I'm a scrub player. Everyone knows this. But I'm one dam good FC and CEO. And I look after my guys. You are going to dilute what we worked hard to accomplish.
Awsome. So why are you worried about these changes for more competitive game play? You should be excited for more challenges right?
What extra challenge is this going to provide? Why can't these people who want in pc now.....Join?
So...everything we have worked for...is going to get wiped and changed....for what. To accommodate people for a week. Till we adapt. Then take over again
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
894
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Posted - 2015.01.23 03:35:00 -
[43] - Quote
...you don't seem to understand what changes they are proposing. Please go read them.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
894
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Posted - 2015.01.23 04:06:00 -
[44] - Quote
Watch what happens if they limit a corps ability to aim at achieving the ultimate goal. 100 percent. That should be everyone's goal. Owning everything. We should be able to pick and chose when our timers are. They are ours. We took them and own them.
People should strive to be in pc. It should go...pubs....factional..then pc. Master them all before pc. Then. We administer pc on our own. We created tiers. Big corps don't smash small corps unless they training their new players.
Anyone can join pc. If they have a team. And if they fight for it. Like we all did
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
895
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Posted - 2015.01.23 13:09:00 -
[45] - Quote
Arcadiia Kain wrote:I dont want anything handed to me. Im fine with working for it. But they need to limut it so one corp can't own the majority of the land.
This is the big issue, the point everyone is missing.
CCP doesn't want you to have so much of the pie.
It's that simple.
This is CCP's game. They have control....not your 10% of the population. Suck it up and deal with it.
I'm off this thread.
CCP should remove everyone's goal? To win? To be on the TOP. Wow. Why do you guys even play this game? It's not just a first person shooter. It is a game of galactic conquest. Your political moves are just as important as your players gun games.
Chess shouldn't be about killing the enemy king I guess. It should be about moving peices of the board and dancing around the other player. Without the end goal being there. Why play.
We have a rule in our corp. Just for your information. Seeing as how you think we're some elitist. We don't want more then 10 districts. When we get more than that through conquest. We give them Way.
That is how the game has been acting now for months. Player and corporation run planetary conquest. We choose who is in and out. If they want me out. They team up and take me out. They did it 2 weeks ago. We were reduced to ashes. Guess what. It was amazing.
I am so happy they did it. It took them all using politics and diplomacy. It took them using coordination and team work.
They achieved their goal. They played the game as it should be. Ruthlessly.
I guess in eve the goal should be jusy to pvp but not kill the other guys ship it yiu have a better ship then them.
I currently have 3 districts. Ya...I'm really controlling everything.
This is all proof the people arguing on here have no clue about what they are arguing about or pushing for. Get your corp started. Get a pc team. Before begging for a district try and take one. If unsuccessful message us. We will give you one. Then protect yiu until you are ready to reach out on your own.
We have a corp currently in MH that all you pansy ass negative complainers should talk to. They are called Random Gunz. A year ago no one knew their name. 6 months ago they entered pc. 5 months ago...we used attacks vs them to train our newest members because our elite players would stomp them. We attacked them repeatedly. But never flipped their districts. We didn't want to. After a few weeks of them losing to us...Instead of bringing in my new players...I slowly had to start bringing in more and more of my good players. Why? Because Random gunz was getting better!
They did not quit. They took their beatings. Adapted. And became what is now one of the most competent and active planetary conquest teams. They earned their place. Mad respect for them. Funny enough they just attacked my district.
You want to remove the hard and toughness of this game. You want quantity over quality. You want to dilute planetary conquest. Why?
Because you are way to lazy to put your time in. Take your beatings and earn your place.
In other words. Get good.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
900
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Posted - 2015.01.23 14:05:00 -
[46] - Quote
Freccia di Lybra wrote:You seriously seem to miss what one of the real issues is in Planetary conquest is. It absolutely has flaws.
You said earlier that the ultimate goal for a corporation is to own 100% of Molden Heath. Guess what? If Nyan wanted to, it would have been pretty easy:
1) Attack a district
2) Slowly flip it because they can
3) Change timer to the usual 13:00 or 12:00
4) They win PC
Actually NS already won PC, none of their districts is under attack, and they're also selling them afaik. If you really want the competitiveness you seem to aim for, you cannot be that blind towards timers.
Think about EU timezone: it's the most vulnerable timezone, period. We're exposed both to US attacks and Asia attacks and this is a major problem because of the inevitable, huge network lag one of the two factions will get. Is this competitive? No, it's not. It's an easy win for one of the two.
I clearly remember a series of 5-6 matches against Hellstorm. It wasn't about tactics because both factions always used the same tactic on the same map. It wasn't about players because we always used the same players as they did.
First match, we lost miserably. Second game, they got wrecked. Third game we got stomped. Fourth game we won by measure. They all wasn't close games. Each game was like a pubstomp for one or the other corporation/alliance. Now answer this question: is this competitive?
PC has flaws, and as much as I understand your frustration for the changes being in development, you should also understand the effort CCP is putting into PC in order to make it more competitive.
For what concerns timers hiding, it has been a common tactic: you know who you're fighting, you know when they're online, therefor you set your timer at an unaccessible timezone, taking non-aggression agreements with the major corps at that timezone. Let's be honest. This is not competitive.
Coming from somone who use to play the game and be in pc...correct?
Nyain has never sold a district. They give them away. Want to know why their districts are not under attack? Because people don't attack them. Including myself. I have dozens of other targets to hit. Why hut them? And up until a week ago their were in my alliance. There is nothing stopping people from attacking Nyain. They are not the issue.
If somone wants to own 100%....and switch their timers to their prime time....do it. That's their right.
They came to OUR time zone and took them from us. Let us go to their time zone and take it back.
This is a military strategy game. You adapt. If somone at 2000 prime time keeps hitting your 0100 timers...and you want to retaliate yiu either diplomatically find help or recruit players based on that time zone. Yiu do the hard work. In game. Not cry in forums that somone did what you are to lazy to do.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
900
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Posted - 2015.01.23 14:09:00 -
[47] - Quote
How the flying **** is this going to make the game any more competitive! The players with no skill and the lazy corps will still have no skill and they will still be lazy! Because instead of putting in hard work and training they begged for the standard to be lowered. Awsome.
Well....When I was a kid I wanted to be a doctor. Then I realized I was way to stupid to be a doctor. I was offered extra schooling and somone to privately train me up to the required skills and knowledge. I said...Naa. ...I'm just going to write Sooo many nasty letters to the government and to the schools saying they should lower their academic requirement.
That is your logic. Lower the bar...which will produce a poorer quality if players.
Awsome
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
900
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Posted - 2015.01.23 14:17:00 -
[48] - Quote
Freccia di Lybra wrote:Roman837 wrote:
Coming from somone who use to play the game and be in pc...correct?
Nyain has never sold a district. They give them away. Want to know why their districts are not under attack? Because people don't attack them. Including myself. I have dozens of other targets to hit. Why hut them? And up until a week ago their were in my alliance. There is nothing stopping people from attacking Nyain. They are not the issue.
If somone wants to own 100%....and switch their timers to their prime time....do it. That's their right.
They came to OUR time zone and took them from us. Let us go to their time zone and take it back.
This is a military strategy game. You adapt. If somone at 2000 prime time keeps hitting your 0100 timers...and you want to retaliate yiu either diplomatically find help or recruit players based on that time zone. Yiu do the hard work. In game. Not cry in forums that somone did what you are to lazy to do.
You don't attack them because you CAN'T FFS. Who is online on 13:00? People either work or are at school in EU, and it's way too early in US. NS timers "should" be as exposed as hell considering all of their districts except one is at 13:00. Ask them if they never sold a district. And btw, what about network lag? how would you fix intercontinental matches?
i have been in dozens of match with Nyain at that time zone. For and against. Yup. I had to set my alarm and plan it on a weekend. I had to put time and effort into it. You are correct. What happens....is Nyain is complaining in Japanese on their forums saying our timers are way to hard to hit...and we are the ones hiding behind them. Mind blown. They don't complain. They attacked. And took them.
Your lack or dedication and effort does not constitute an emergency or need to change anything.
Get good.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.23 14:25:00 -
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Also. Why are you so focused on Nyain. Can yiu not attack anyone else? Have you used your big boy words and did some research and messaged their directors? Asked for a district. They would say yes.
Also news flash. We have an in game board of directors including everyone who has the ability to make a huge impact in the game. We have been monitoring and talking with Nyain. We used a very effective method of warfare vs then....diplomacy. they are giving away all but 10 of their districts.
I don't want them to. They earned them. But to appease you complainers....they are going to do it.
What will happen. Roman's prediction. Nothing. The complainers will still complain. The active people in pc will gobble the districts up.
Back to square one
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
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Posted - 2015.01.23 14:27:00 -
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Travis Stanush wrote:Roman837 wrote:How the flying **** is this going to make the game any more competitive! The players with no skill and the lazy corps will still have no skill and they will still be lazy! Because instead of putting in hard work and training they begged for the standard to be lowered. Awsome.
Well....When I was a kid I wanted to be a doctor. Then I realized I was way to stupid to be a doctor. I was offered extra schooling and somone to privately train me up to the required skills and knowledge. I said...Naa. ...I'm just going to write Sooo many nasty letters to the government and to the schools saying they should lower their academic requirement.
That is your logic. Lower the bar...which will produce a poorer quality if players.
Awsome look I understand your frustration I do.. BUT how long would it take if you created a corp from scratch to get a hold in PC? NO cash from your main NO acquaintances / friends / enemies New everything How long would it take and how many people would you lose? I know they are giving districts away but, do you think that's really enough to be considered IN PC? Just because it took years for you to reach the position you are at does not make the system any less broken.
Are you suggesting it would take me time and effort? I agree. It will. Please put in both . This games not short term. It's long term strategy. If you want short term. Play pubs.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
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Posted - 2015.01.23 14:49:00 -
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Rediculous. The people are going against current pc and pushing for thus new change. ..are Rediculous.
Here is what a going to happen. You are going to make us angry. You wouldn't like us when we're angry.
You are going to forge one of the most Powerfull coalition this game has ever seen. What ever changes happen. We will fight it. All the big players were call a truce. And dominate. Then when you are all gone. We will continue on as nothing has happened. Then...you will all cry on forums again. We will adapt. ..and the cycle continues.
We play this game how it should be played. Ruthlessly.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
901
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Posted - 2015.01.23 14:51:00 -
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bigolenuts wrote:Getting burned out is something PC players know is going to happen. Everyone has experienced it. That is why you have corp mates, to pick up the slack when someone is not online.
The timers are just that. They are timers. If you want said districts, you go and get them. Wanting them changed to make it easier for you is not a solution.
But let me ask, with the timer changes are you saying your corps are going to participate in PC when it happens?
no. They won't
They will be where they are currently. Chirping from sidelines. We will suffer from it adapt and move on
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
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Posted - 2015.01.23 15:55:00 -
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Just so you all don't think Bigolenuts and I egging each other on...He and I are usually bitter opponents in this game. We both scratched our way to the top level. We fought against each other many times.
For a span of 6 months. He was my enemy in game.
The changes being proposed will forge a super coalition against you.
To the moron saying look what happened to DNS. Haha hahahaha.
We self distracted ourselves. For fun. You did not beat us. Everyone came together to prove a point to CCP. To make them see us. They did. Then we did what this games all about. We bashed each others heads in with rocks. We went to war.
10 corps in this game. If wanted. Can control everything. We self govern. We balance the game as needed.
We don't need outsiders begging ccp to change this game.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
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Posted - 2015.01.23 16:55:00 -
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Travis Stanush wrote:Roman837 wrote:Just so you all don't think Bigolenuts and I egging each other on...He and I are usually bitter opponents in this game. We both scratched our way to the top level. We fought against each other many times.
For a span of 6 months. He was my enemy in game.
The changes being proposed will forge a super coalition against you.
To the moron saying look what happened to DNS. Haha hahahaha.
We self distracted ourselves. For fun. You did not beat us. Everyone came together to prove a point to CCP. To make them see us. They did. Then we did what this games all about. We bashed each others heads in with rocks. We went to war.
10 corps in this game. If wanted. Can control everything. We self govern. We balance the game as needed.
We don't need outsiders begging ccp to change this game. Roman shut up you are just making yourself look like a douche Have you even looked at this yet? Provide your "insider" opinions there or not you choose. Either way it doesn't matter because it IS changing not you or your buddies can stop it now. Go **** yourself San Diego
Yes. I have been informed of that new post. And the meet in the middle changes. Much better. I even comment and made a suggestion to make it better.
Don't ever tell me to shut up again. Remember these forums are where wars usually start. I'm the one who starts them
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
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Posted - 2015.01.24 13:17:00 -
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I so not even going to quote you baboons. I am just going to respond.
To the last post...you mentioned. ..6 months ago yiu thought dust was going to die. What did you do. You did like most people. And you quit. Or maybe you just played once in awhile. You gave up. We did not. We stuck it out and gave ccp benefit of the doubt. Even tho we were mad at them we did not abandon them.
To the person who obviously is ******** who said oh no...what will we do if 40 people leave the game compared to 3000.
Those 40 people in the chat are CEOs of every major corporation. Currently in pc or were once in pc. Under our 40 corps...we all have very active players. Guarenteed if those 40 people said. I quit. Over 50 percent or their corp members would quit aswell. Or. If those 40 members decided to do something even more crazy. ..like I don't know...form an alliance. We woukd dominate everyone. We woukd farm this new source or income called goo.
We would still fight each other in pc. For fun. For competition. But...since yiu don't want us to be end game competitive and to limit us on how much we can hold. Why do we now care that the other corp holds a huge portion of land.
All we have to do. Is keep you all out.
Those 40 people control armies. Those 40 can call more people then everyone else active combined.
Great idea. Insult 1 of those 40 who is the most active and long stabbed CEOS and pc players in the game.
Have fun entering the new platform of pc. We will stand ready to smash you.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
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Posted - 2015.01.26 13:20:00 -
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How'd I miss that last few posts. You think by CCP making some changes its instantly going to make you better? It's going to help you get into pc? No. Well..yes...maybe for a day or 2. Then you will be removed and then we are back to square one.
You QQing on forums....us playing planetary conquest
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
963
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Posted - 2015.01.27 12:57:00 -
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I sense jealously in alot of these posts. Talk as much **** as you all can. I am successfull in this game and I am very active. At one point or another I have smashed just about every single corp out there.
If you think I care if I lose a few fights here and there you are wrong. If you think I really care that it takes coalitions to compete vs us...you are wrong.
I enjoy it. It brings us fights. And I wish CCP would release stats showing how many PCS we have been in and our WIN Loss in them. Mine would blow all of yours out of the water.
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