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Cat Merc
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.23 20:05:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Accesible?
You guys realize if you want land in PC it's as easy as.... asking for one?
It's very accessible - so much so one man corps are popping up all over the place and are being put down. It's absurd people cry about how tough PC is to break into when you don't even bother trying or getting to know what's going on in PC.
What PC really needed was a UI over-haul - tutorials on star map - and ADVERTISE IT EVEN EXISTS IN THE DAMN GAME. UI overhaul is a must.
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
5816
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Posted - 2015.01.23 20:39:00 -
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137H4RGIC wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:137H4RGIC wrote:I like Romans idea of giving someone a district and offering protection while they get started in pc. It shows sportsmanship. But I'm left to wonder: how is it less of a handout than what ccp is offering with these changes? Does that offer come with the new changes? One is the community handling it's own affairs. The other is CCP violating the sandbox. CCP should just come out straight and say this isn't New Eden - it's closer to Disney Land. So, ccp is giving us more tools to pay with in the sand box by making total conquest harder to achieve, making new even a much more cutthroat place for everyone to control land, making strategies for holding districts more intense requiring more plotting by the corporate brass. Why is the bigger challenge a problem? These changes won't invalidate our skill. Rather, with our practice, we Will be ahead of the curveball and hold more land more effectively than the new people. Not only will we stay ahead but we will see old friends returning and new faces on the competitive side of dust. Edit. With ccp new changes people will still have to fight for districts rather than being given one by people who already have land. Under the point of dispute of handouts I thought you guys would have more respect for people who fought their way up instead of being given a district. These changes aren't going to change the fact the same corps are going to stomp you.
What it will do is ruin the sandbox and choices we've made up to this point to get where we are.
If you want to work your way up here - it's not hard. I personally field people with just 10mil SP and they do just fine.
The Warbarge addition sounds really cool - no vet will complain about that. What we don't want is CCP telling us what district we can take.
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137H4RGIC
Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment.
426
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Posted - 2015.01.23 20:55:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:These changes aren't going to change the fact the same corps are going to stomp you. I do not think anyone is disputing this.
SoTa PoP wrote:What it will do is ruin the sandbox and choices we've made up to this point to get where we are. How will it ruin the sandbox?
SoTa PoP wrote:If you want to work your way up here - it's not hard. I personally field people with just 10mil SP and they do just fine. I have worked my way up there before, you're right it isn't that hard, that's why the changes are being made.
SoTa PoP wrote:The Warbarge addition sounds really cool - no vet will complain about that. What we don't want is CCP telling us what district we can take. I don't think they are. The only ones limiting you are yourselves. You can take whatever district you want, but can you hold on to it indefinitely? If so, more power to you. :)
I want to help DUST become a better experience for everyone. Let's work together!
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rasputin900000
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
26
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Posted - 2015.01.23 21:05:00 -
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Roman837 wrote:Posted this in war room. Was told it would be seen faster here
Talking trash aside...politics aside and personal beefs aside. I love this game. The interaction in players is the most rewarding thing about it. We are a self run community. And we appreciate that you CCP take the time to listen to your players and make changes based on what we say . Even if it is at a slow rate. Change happens.
What I am mad about....is the people you are gathering your information from...to make changes to pc....are not even in pc. This is a Rediculous thing. Knowing stats on suits...and other geeky stats is great an all for those math wizards. But. ..do not for a second think that they are in any shape way or form involved in the most competitive form of your game. Planetary Conquest. Let them talk in general discussion about nerfing the gun that kills them. Given any gun in this game we have players in planetary conquest that would crush that same person complaining about an op gun. Give kalante a militia any gun and he will have general discussion players crying of op ness.-á
My sincere advise to you. Is create an in game chat channel. Make sure you eve protect it so no trolls can join it. And invite us into your chat. And talk with us. Please. Do not listen to some loser cpm or X cpm who does not even play your game. We do. We play it every day all day. Don't believe me ccp? If it's possible I want you to look up and post my planetary conquest only stats. You will see I pc multiple times a day every day. And know every single major pc player. We are the ones you should be talking to. No one should be advising you on game changes related to pc but us. We don't care about weapons and stat changes. We will adapt to what yiu give us and kill any pub player.
You need to consult us. Please create a channel and invite us to it. In 1 hour we can give you more dedication and constructive criticism then a years worth of cpm meetings.-á
Give us a time and a date. We will create the chat and organize it.
To the players reading this. Don't **** it up. If they do want to talk and listen to use keep you troll mouths shut. We will do the talking and we will help our game. One idiot talking trash or being a tough 12 year old on the Internet will ruin it for all or us.
I don't want this game to ever die. And planetary conquest is the only reason I still play it. Don't kill it by listening to people who do not play it.
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bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles.
1421
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Posted - 2015.01.23 22:19:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:137H4RGIC wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:137H4RGIC wrote:I like Romans idea of giving someone a district and offering protection while they get started in pc. It shows sportsmanship. But I'm left to wonder: how is it less of a handout than what ccp is offering with these changes? Does that offer come with the new changes? One is the community handling it's own affairs. The other is CCP violating the sandbox. CCP should just come out straight and say this isn't New Eden - it's closer to Disney Land. So, ccp is giving us more tools to pay with in the sand box by making total conquest harder to achieve, making new even a much more cutthroat place for everyone to control land, making strategies for holding districts more intense requiring more plotting by the corporate brass. Why is the bigger challenge a problem? These changes won't invalidate our skill. Rather, with our practice, we Will be ahead of the curveball and hold more land more effectively than the new people. Not only will we stay ahead but we will see old friends returning and new faces on the competitive side of dust. Edit. With ccp new changes people will still have to fight for districts rather than being given one by people who already have land. Under the point of dispute of handouts I thought you guys would have more respect for people who fought their way up instead of being given a district. These changes aren't going to change the fact the same corps are going to stomp you. What it will do is ruin the sandbox and choices we've made up to this point to get where we are. If you want to work your way up here - it's not hard. I personally field people with just 10mil SP and they do just fine. The Warbarge addition sounds really cool - no vet will complain about that. What we don't want is CCP telling us what district we can take.
I can agree. The top corps now are going to be the top corps then.
I use to play this game, but my dog got sick- Zatara the Pizza Boy
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Alaika Arbosa
Minmatar Republic
2413
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Posted - 2015.01.23 22:36:00 -
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Roman837 wrote: Changes so that the entire community can enjoy? They can enjoy it now. They chose not to. Your right everyone should be included in discussing the changes. Including pc players. What pc players were consulted? Who? The changes being proposed is garbage. What your saying is the changes should accommodate the people currently not in pc...and anger the ones currently who are. That is horrible logic. Ares 514. People who play this game are the ones who this is for. Not you.
This is a perfect example of why your logic is flawed.
Participate =/= Enjoy
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Alaika Arbosa
Minmatar Republic
2414
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Posted - 2015.01.23 22:41:00 -
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Roman837 wrote:
No body cares about our chat channel? So the 40 CEOs and big names in pc don't matter? You're on glue. What will ccp do when we boycott pc? Or we all say **** it. We're out. We are the ones playing this game as it's intended. Full out
Lose 40 people out of ~3000 players?
Oh noes. There goes the game. What ever will we do?
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Dust User
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1545
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Posted - 2015.01.23 22:45:00 -
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GD has discovered the addiction known as Roman Tears. |
Stryker Syx Vector
D3ATH CARD RUST415
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Posted - 2015.01.23 23:21:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Roman837 wrote:
No body cares about our chat channel? So the 40 CEOs and big names in pc don't matter? You're on glue. What will ccp do when we boycott pc? Or we all say **** it. We're out. We are the ones playing this game as it's intended. Full out
Lose 40 people out of ~3000 players? Oh noes. There goes the game. What ever will we do?
I know what I'll do. Laugh. When I get the time to play again. I'll laugh with corp mates. And roman will probably still ***** and say "HEY LOOK AT ME I'M IMPORTANT! NO REALLY I AM!" lol |
SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
5817
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Posted - 2015.01.23 23:24:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Roman837 wrote:
No body cares about our chat channel? So the 40 CEOs and big names in pc don't matter? You're on glue. What will ccp do when we boycott pc? Or we all say **** it. We're out. We are the ones playing this game as it's intended. Full out
Lose 40 people out of ~3000 players? Oh noes. There goes the game. What ever will we do? You'll probably enjoy not being stomped by all us all the time.
GD really wasn't the place for this topic - these peasants haven't put in the 10th of the time we have into this game. There comprehension of things end after the numbers on a spread sheet does.
There's a reason they keep to GD and not in WR - they can't handle it. Right now the only thing preventing corps getting into PC is cost of a clone pack - and that's literally it.
Anyone who believes otherwise is beyond help.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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Alaika Arbosa
Minmatar Republic
2415
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Posted - 2015.01.23 23:24:00 -
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Roman837 wrote:Looks like CCP reads these posts aswell as they have been liking my posts.
Want this game to die? Don't listen to me or other PC players. This is where you are the delusional one. We are the majority. Our corps are the pc corps. We are the ones killing and being killed. We are the ones playing that collects your data. Hence why every player in the top 200 om any leader board is a person who plays pc. That's why all top 20 weekly corp stats are from corps who play pc.
We play the most. In pubs and pc. You want to make changes that mainly represent the causal players? The ones who might long on for an hour?
Talk about a ****** up logic. You would slap in the face those who are the most dedicated to appease the ones who are not?
Mark my words. Put this on your wall post up. Anger the PC community and watch dust die.
Anger the leaders who control those players...watch dust die.
Continue listening to people who have no dam clue what they talking about. Watch dust die.
Write that on your ******* wall. Oh noes.
#DustIsDying.......again
We the pc players make up a huge majority of active players. --Roman837
^^ROFLMAO
OMG I need to catch my breath now..
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Ice-Pie
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2015.01.24 01:21:00 -
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Let the grunts beat their chest they believe because they are the most proficient at the game, they should dictate how is run, when six months ago we thought dust really was dying. Now we are getting content which will improve our player base, make our end game content more reachable for those with less skill. They want to keep their club house and not let anyone in unless they dictate how the game is run, which, this isn't their game to start with. Is the intellectual property of CCP Games.
Tl; dr: Use some of that adaptation you keep bragging about, and HTFU this is New Eden patches happen and it changes the game play. Just ask any pilot in eve who uses jump bridges or jump drives. |
Roman837
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
916
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Posted - 2015.01.24 13:17:00 -
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I so not even going to quote you baboons. I am just going to respond.
To the last post...you mentioned. ..6 months ago yiu thought dust was going to die. What did you do. You did like most people. And you quit. Or maybe you just played once in awhile. You gave up. We did not. We stuck it out and gave ccp benefit of the doubt. Even tho we were mad at them we did not abandon them.
To the person who obviously is ******** who said oh no...what will we do if 40 people leave the game compared to 3000.
Those 40 people in the chat are CEOs of every major corporation. Currently in pc or were once in pc. Under our 40 corps...we all have very active players. Guarenteed if those 40 people said. I quit. Over 50 percent or their corp members would quit aswell. Or. If those 40 members decided to do something even more crazy. ..like I don't know...form an alliance. We woukd dominate everyone. We woukd farm this new source or income called goo.
We would still fight each other in pc. For fun. For competition. But...since yiu don't want us to be end game competitive and to limit us on how much we can hold. Why do we now care that the other corp holds a huge portion of land.
All we have to do. Is keep you all out.
Those 40 people control armies. Those 40 can call more people then everyone else active combined.
Great idea. Insult 1 of those 40 who is the most active and long stabbed CEOS and pc players in the game.
Have fun entering the new platform of pc. We will stand ready to smash you.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Cavani1EE7
Murphys-Law
888
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Posted - 2015.01.24 13:45:00 -
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Dust User wrote:GD has discovered the addiction known as Roman Tears. The war room definitely wasn't enough for Roman. He's now aiming at the entire community, GD peasants included.
10100111001
Shield tanking is hard mode /period.
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Alaika Arbosa
Minmatar Republic
2418
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Posted - 2015.01.24 14:33:00 -
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Roman837 wrote:I so not even going to quote you baboons. I am just going to respond.
To the last post...you mentioned. ..6 months ago yiu thought dust was going to die. What did you do. You did like most people. And you quit. Or maybe you just played once in awhile. You gave up. We did not. We stuck it out and gave ccp benefit of the doubt. Even tho we were mad at them we did not abandon them.
To the person who obviously is ******** who said oh no...what will we do if 40 people leave the game compared to 3000.
Those 40 people in the chat are CEOs of every major corporation. Currently in pc or were once in pc. Under our 40 corps...we all have very active players. Guarenteed if those 40 people said. I quit. Over 50 percent or their corp members would quit aswell. Or. If those 40 members decided to do something even more crazy. ..like I don't know...form an alliance. We woukd dominate everyone. We woukd farm this new source or income called goo.
We would still fight each other in pc. For fun. For competition. But...since yiu don't want us to be end game competitive and to limit us on how much we can hold. Why do we now care that the other corp holds a huge portion of land.
All we have to do. Is keep you all out.
Those 40 people control armies. Those 40 can call more people then everyone else active combined.
Great idea. Insult 1 of those 40 who is the most active and long stabbed CEOS and pc players in the game.
Have fun entering the new platform of pc. We will stand ready to smash you. lol
"We will stand ready to smash you"
This is too rich, he is trying way too hard to be intimidating. You sure do think highly of yourself for putting in so much workplaying a game. See what I did there? Just in case you didn't.
I pointed out that you want people to work to play a game.
How ******* ridiculous is that? Have fun, make progress, yes, but work? Actually work? How would this be play then? If it is my work, it is not my play, otherwise it wouldn't be called work, it'd be called play.
I also find it terribly amusing that you still think this game or any other online PvP video game outside of a LAN party is actually competitive.
Lag, terrible min/maxers, kids willing to use things like modded controllers because "If I don't use every advantage available to me how will I be competitive" (yes, I have actually heard that justification used to legitimize modded controllers).
You're (wha? proper usage?) so caught up on beating your chest over pixels that you really don't see the big picture.
In closing, even if your 40 corps left taking 50% of the active membership of each corp, it would still only be a minority of players that left. 75%-90% of the playerbase would assuredly still be here, I'd wager that they wouldn't even miss you.
PS: Have fun preventing any of my alts from getting into the new PC landscape, are you so sure your ironclad empire has no cracks in it? Also, if you and your friends are going to say "Screw you guys, I'm going home" how then will you prevent me from being in PC? Which one of them was the bluster?
My cup awaits the deluge of Roman tears that will cause it to runneth over.
We the pc players make up a huge majority of active players. --Roman837
^^ROFLMAO
OMG I need to catch my breath now..
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Valor Goat
126
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Posted - 2015.01.26 12:38:00 -
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Roman go suck a ****
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Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.01.26 12:40:00 -
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Don't worry Roman I'm here to make you feel better again . |
Roman837
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
961
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Posted - 2015.01.26 13:20:00 -
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How'd I miss that last few posts. You think by CCP making some changes its instantly going to make you better? It's going to help you get into pc? No. Well..yes...maybe for a day or 2. Then you will be removed and then we are back to square one.
You QQing on forums....us playing planetary conquest
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
1979
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Posted - 2015.01.26 13:46:00 -
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Roman I have to say you are approaching this subject in a rather counterconstructive manner . In your op you seem to think you and your 40 ceos have more Iinsight into this game than anyone else (if you don't actually mean it to soundthat way then you should reconsider your wording and phrasing ) now obviously it would be better for the game, player retention if pc was much more accessible rather than the elitist boys club that caters for less than a quarter of this games population that it is today. Also
I'd like to ask do you and your 40 ceos really think that much of yourselves that you believe 50% of all your 40 corps players would just up and go with you cos I really doubt that would happen and when you make statements like that it makes you appear to to be doing nothing more than chest beating.
Proud Caldari purist . Rank 10 colonel omiwarrior.
I fought and bled for the State on Caldari prime.
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Dust User
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1560
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Posted - 2015.01.26 13:59:00 -
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Thread of the week.
lolromansboat |
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Alaika Arbosa
Minmatar Republic
2423
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Posted - 2015.01.26 14:01:00 -
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Roman837 wrote:
You QQing on forums....us playing planetary conquest
So that whole "We'll quit and each take 50% of our corp with us" was just bluster....
Why am I not surprised?
We the pc players make up a huge majority of active players. --Roman837
^^ROFLMAO
OMG I need to catch my breath now..
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Valor Goat
128
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Posted - 2015.01.26 15:04:00 -
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Dust User wrote: lolromansboat
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m621 zma
252
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Posted - 2015.01.26 18:17:00 -
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Reads OP's post... Goes to starmap... Can't see OP's corp on any district... Decides OP is talking shite. |
Dust User
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1567
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Posted - 2015.01.26 18:32:00 -
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m621 zma wrote:Reads OP's post... Goes to starmap... Can't see OP's corp on any district... Decides OP is talking shite.
Roman's word is forever tarnished. |
MR MOJOO
Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention
17
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Posted - 2015.01.26 21:42:00 -
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Ares 514 wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Everytime CCP reads a post from some PC dude that says "pc is accessible" they look at their statistics and laugh.
There's a HUGE gap between the current PC community and the rest of the Dust community in regards to team play. Personally I think PC has stayed the way it has for so long that I don't think anything can bridge that gap.
NS didn't get its massive amount of districts until PC was already largely dead. Hidden timers aren't killing PC. Locking isn't killing PC. It's the fact that when it matters there are a few dozen players under the current mechanics can dominate everything in a few weeks.
When people come to that realization and start giving feedback accordingly, we won't be stuck with PS2. Thor is my forum buddy. We always agree. Go figure. Maybe one day i'll see you in game. you're back G¥ñ
"Fuck off fucking scrub, bitch ass noob get good"~usuckatdust vagheitan
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1063
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Posted - 2015.01.26 21:45:00 -
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MR MOJOO wrote:Ares 514 wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Everytime CCP reads a post from some PC dude that says "pc is accessible" they look at their statistics and laugh.
There's a HUGE gap between the current PC community and the rest of the Dust community in regards to team play. Personally I think PC has stayed the way it has for so long that I don't think anything can bridge that gap.
NS didn't get its massive amount of districts until PC was already largely dead. Hidden timers aren't killing PC. Locking isn't killing PC. It's the fact that when it matters there are a few dozen players under the current mechanics can dominate everything in a few weeks.
When people come to that realization and start giving feedback accordingly, we won't be stuck with PS2. Thor is my forum buddy. We always agree. Go figure. Maybe one day i'll see you in game. you're back G¥ñ
I've been back for sometime, just play later now then before :)
Overlord of Broman
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MR MOJOO
Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention
17
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Posted - 2015.01.26 21:49:00 -
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Ares 514 wrote:MR MOJOO wrote:Ares 514 wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Everytime CCP reads a post from some PC dude that says "pc is accessible" they look at their statistics and laugh.
There's a HUGE gap between the current PC community and the rest of the Dust community in regards to team play. Personally I think PC has stayed the way it has for so long that I don't think anything can bridge that gap.
NS didn't get its massive amount of districts until PC was already largely dead. Hidden timers aren't killing PC. Locking isn't killing PC. It's the fact that when it matters there are a few dozen players under the current mechanics can dominate everything in a few weeks.
When people come to that realization and start giving feedback accordingly, we won't be stuck with PS2. Thor is my forum buddy. We always agree. Go figure. Maybe one day i'll see you in game. you're back G¥ñ I've been back for sometime, just play later now then before :) OMG I thought I lost you
"Fuck off fucking scrub, bitch ass noob get good"~usuckatdust vagheitan
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Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
2090
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Posted - 2015.01.27 05:17:00 -
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Tears are the salt on my popcorn.
"F*ck the polis" - Socrates
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THUNDERGROOVE
Fatal Absolution
1335
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Posted - 2015.01.27 07:12:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:Tears are the salt on my popcorn. Have you ever had soggy popcorn? It's not very good.
Dual tanking is for bad players.
21 day EVE trial.
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THUNDERGROOVE
Fatal Absolution
1335
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Posted - 2015.01.27 07:13:00 -
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m621 zma wrote:Reads OP's post... Goes to starmap... Can't see OP's corp on any district... Decides OP is talking shite. Said the scrub alt
Dual tanking is for bad players.
21 day EVE trial.
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