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Roman837 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 900	Posted - 2015.01.23 14:05:00 - [181] - Quote Freccia di Lybra wrote: You seriously seem to miss what one of the real issues is in Planetary conquest is. It absolutely has flaws. You said earlier that the ultimate goal for a corporation is to own 100% of Molden Heath. Guess what? If Nyan wanted to, it would have been pretty easy: 1) Attack a district 2) Slowly flip it because they can 3) Change timer to the usual 13:00 or 12:00 4) They win PC Actually NS already won PC, none of their districts is under attack, and they're also selling them afaik. If you really want the competitiveness you seem to aim for, you cannot be that blind towards timers. Think about EU timezone: it's the most vulnerable timezone, period. We're exposed both to US attacks and Asia attacks and this is a major problem because of the inevitable, huge network lag one of the two factions will get. Is this competitive? No, it's not. It's an easy win for one of the two. I clearly remember a series of 5-6 matches against Hellstorm. It wasn't about tactics because both factions always used the same tactic on the same map. It wasn't about players because we always used the same players as they did. First match, we lost miserably. Second game, they got wrecked. Third game we got stomped. Fourth game we won by measure. They all wasn't close games. Each game was like a pubstomp for one or the other corporation/alliance. Now answer this question: is this competitive? PC has flaws, and as much as I understand your frustration for the changes being in development, you should also understand the effort CCP is putting into PC in order to make it more competitive. For what concerns timers hiding, it has been a common tactic: you know who you're fighting, you know when they're online, therefor you set your timer at an unaccessible timezone, taking non-aggression agreements with the major corps at that timezone. Let's be honest. This is not competitive. Coming from somone who use to play the game and be in pc...correct? Nyain has never sold a district. They give them away. Want to know why their districts are not under attack? Because people don't attack them. Including myself. I have dozens of other targets to hit. Why hut them? And up until a week ago their were in my alliance. There is nothing stopping people from attacking Nyain. They are not the issue. If somone wants to own 100%....and switch their timers to their prime time....do it. That's their right. They came to OUR time zone and took them from us. Let us go to their time zone and take it back. This is a military strategy game. You adapt. If somone at 2000 prime time keeps hitting your 0100 timers...and you want to retaliate yiu either diplomatically find help or recruit players based on that time zone. Yiu do the hard work. In game. Not cry in forums that somone did what you are to lazy to do. Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
Roman837 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 900	Posted - 2015.01.23 14:09:00 - [182] - Quote How the flying **** is this going to make the game any more competitive! The players with no skill and the lazy corps will still have no skill and they will still be lazy! Because instead of putting in hard work and training they begged for the standard to be lowered. Awsome. Well....When I was a kid I wanted to be a doctor. Then I realized I was way to stupid to be a doctor. I was offered extra schooling and somone to privately train me up to the required skills and knowledge. I said...Naa. ...I'm just going to write Sooo many nasty letters to the government and to the schools saying they should lower their academic requirement. That is your logic. Lower the bar...which will produce a poorer quality if players. Awsome Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
Freccia di Lybra Maphia Clan Corporation 385	Posted - 2015.01.23 14:14:00 - [183] - Quote Roman837 wrote: Coming from somone who use to play the game and be in pc...correct? Nyain has never sold a district. They give them away. Want to know why their districts are not under attack? Because people don't attack them. Including myself. I have dozens of other targets to hit. Why hut them? And up until a week ago their were in my alliance. There is nothing stopping people from attacking Nyain. They are not the issue. If somone wants to own 100%....and switch their timers to their prime time....do it. That's their right. They came to OUR time zone and took them from us. Let us go to their time zone and take it back. This is a military strategy game. You adapt. If somone at 2000 prime time keeps hitting your 0100 timers...and you want to retaliate yiu either diplomatically find help or recruit players based on that time zone. Yiu do the hard work. In game. Not cry in forums that somone did what you are to lazy to do. You don't attack them because you CAN'T FFS. Who is online on 13:00? People either work or are at school in EU, and it's way too early in US. NS timers "should" be as exposed as hell considering all of their districts except one is at 13:00. Ask them if they never sold a district. And btw, what about network lag? how would you fix intercontinental matches? Ei fu, xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
Freccia di Lybra Maphia Clan Corporation 385	Posted - 2015.01.23 14:16:00 - [184] - Quote Roman837 wrote: How the flying **** is this going to make the game any more competitive! The players with no skill and the lazy corps will still have no skill and they will still be lazy! Because instead of putting in hard work and training they begged for the standard to be lowered. Awsome. Well....When I was a kid I wanted to be a doctor. Then I realized I was way to stupid to be a doctor. I was offered extra schooling and somone to privately train me up to the required skills and knowledge. I said...Naa. ...I'm just going to write Sooo many nasty letters to the government and to the schools saying they should lower their academic requirement. That is your logic. Lower the bar...which will produce a poorer quality if players. Awsome And no. The problem is when you have the skills to be a doctor but for some reason outside of what you can reasonably do, you can't. Ei fu, xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
Roman837 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 900	Posted - 2015.01.23 14:17:00 - [185] - Quote Freccia di Lybra wrote: Roman837 wrote: Coming from somone who use to play the game and be in pc...correct? Nyain has never sold a district. They give them away. Want to know why their districts are not under attack? Because people don't attack them. Including myself. I have dozens of other targets to hit. Why hut them? And up until a week ago their were in my alliance. There is nothing stopping people from attacking Nyain. They are not the issue. If somone wants to own 100%....and switch their timers to their prime time....do it. That's their right. They came to OUR time zone and took them from us. Let us go to their time zone and take it back. This is a military strategy game. You adapt. If somone at 2000 prime time keeps hitting your 0100 timers...and you want to retaliate yiu either diplomatically find help or recruit players based on that time zone. Yiu do the hard work. In game. Not cry in forums that somone did what you are to lazy to do. You don't attack them because you CAN'T FFS. Who is online on 13:00? People either work or are at school in EU, and it's way too early in US. NS timers "should" be as exposed as hell considering all of their districts except one is at 13:00. Ask them if they never sold a district. And btw, what about network lag? how would you fix intercontinental matches? i have been in dozens of match with Nyain at that time zone. For and against. Yup. I had to set my alarm and plan it on a weekend. I had to put time and effort into it. You are correct. What happens....is Nyain is complaining in Japanese on their forums saying our timers are way to hard to hit...and we are the ones hiding behind them. Mind blown. They don't complain. They attacked. And took them. Your lack or dedication and effort does not constitute an emergency or need to change anything. Get good. Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
Freccia di Lybra Maphia Clan Corporation 385	Posted - 2015.01.23 14:23:00 - [186] - Quote Roman837 wrote: i have been in dozens of match with Nyain at that time zone. For and against. Yup. I had to set my alarm and plan it on a weekend. I had to put time and effort into it. You are correct. What happens....is Nyain is complaining in Japanese on their forums saying our timers are way to hard to hit...and we are the ones hiding behind them. Mind blown. They don't complain. They attacked. And took them. Your lack or dedication and effort does not constitute an emergency or need to change anything. Get good. They do not complain because 1) They already have more districts than they wanted 2) Many of the timers are still accessible to them, with little to no required effort. while you had to set your alarm clock for a game, they just played regularly. But, don't get me wrong, if there were only one super-corporation in US it would work the same way. Nobody would attack you in your timer because it would be too early for asians and too late for europeans. Ei fu, xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
Travis Stanush Y.A.M.A.H 317	Posted - 2015.01.23 14:24:00 - [187] - Quote Roman837 wrote: How the flying **** is this going to make the game any more competitive! The players with no skill and the lazy corps will still have no skill and they will still be lazy! Because instead of putting in hard work and training they begged for the standard to be lowered. Awsome. Well....When I was a kid I wanted to be a doctor. Then I realized I was way to stupid to be a doctor. I was offered extra schooling and somone to privately train me up to the required skills and knowledge. I said...Naa. ...I'm just going to write Sooo many nasty letters to the government and to the schools saying they should lower their academic requirement. That is your logic. Lower the bar...which will produce a poorer quality if players. Awsome look I understand your frustration I do.. BUT how long would it take if you created a corp from scratch to get a hold in PC? NO cash from your main NO acquaintances / friends / enemies New everything How long would it take and how many people would you lose? I know they are giving districts away but, do you think that's really enough to be considered IN PC? Just because it took years for you to reach the position you are at does not make the system any less broken. No I will not show you where they touched me!!!
Roman837 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 901	Posted - 2015.01.23 14:25:00 - [188] - Quote Also. Why are you so focused on Nyain. Can yiu not attack anyone else? Have you used your big boy words and did some research and messaged their directors? Asked for a district. They would say yes. Also news flash. We have an in game board of directors including everyone who has the ability to make a huge impact in the game. We have been monitoring and talking with Nyain. We used a very effective method of warfare vs then....diplomacy. they are giving away all but 10 of their districts. I don't want them to. They earned them. But to appease you complainers....they are going to do it. What will happen. Roman's prediction. Nothing. The complainers will still complain. The active people in pc will gobble the districts up. Back to square one Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
Atiim Titans of Phoenix 15214	Posted - 2015.01.23 14:26:00 - [189] - Quote Freccia di Lybra wrote: You don't attack them because you CAN'T FFS. Who is online on 13:00? People either work or are at school in EU, and it's way too early in US. NS timers "should" be as exposed as hell considering all of their districts except one is at 13:00. Ask them if they never sold a district. And btw, what about network lag? how would you fix intercontinental matches? What are you talking about? We can and we do attack them. All it takes is for us to send a mail to our corp saying "early PC against NS, set your alarm clocks" and we'll have a full team ready to go at their timer. And you know what we do? We take their district. Given how NS's primetime actually is 1300, they have to do the same thing if they want to take one of the districts on our timers so it's far from the unfair one-sided battle you make it out to be. As for selling districts, any and everyone has sold a district before. However if you actually bothered to ask someone from NS you'd know that they do give away districts for free if you ask them. Network lag gets fixed by kicking players if their ping is too high, and I don't seeing anything wrong with intercontinental matches. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Roman837 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 901	Posted - 2015.01.23 14:27:00 - [190] - Quote Travis Stanush wrote: Roman837 wrote: How the flying **** is this going to make the game any more competitive! The players with no skill and the lazy corps will still have no skill and they will still be lazy! Because instead of putting in hard work and training they begged for the standard to be lowered. Awsome. Well....When I was a kid I wanted to be a doctor. Then I realized I was way to stupid to be a doctor. I was offered extra schooling and somone to privately train me up to the required skills and knowledge. I said...Naa. ...I'm just going to write Sooo many nasty letters to the government and to the schools saying they should lower their academic requirement. That is your logic. Lower the bar...which will produce a poorer quality if players. Awsome look I understand your frustration I do.. BUT how long would it take if you created a corp from scratch to get a hold in PC? NO cash from your main NO acquaintances / friends / enemies New everything How long would it take and how many people would you lose? I know they are giving districts away but, do you think that's really enough to be considered IN PC? Just because it took years for you to reach the position you are at does not make the system any less broken. Are you suggesting it would take me time and effort? I agree. It will. Please put in both . This games not short term. It's long term strategy. If you want short term. Play pubs. Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law

Freccia di Lybra Maphia Clan Corporation 385	Posted - 2015.01.23 14:28:00 - [191] - Quote Travis Stanush wrote: Roman837 wrote: How the flying **** is this going to make the game any more competitive! The players with no skill and the lazy corps will still have no skill and they will still be lazy! Because instead of putting in hard work and training they begged for the standard to be lowered. Awsome. Well....When I was a kid I wanted to be a doctor. Then I realized I was way to stupid to be a doctor. I was offered extra schooling and somone to privately train me up to the required skills and knowledge. I said...Naa. ...I'm just going to write Sooo many nasty letters to the government and to the schools saying they should lower their academic requirement. That is your logic. Lower the bar...which will produce a poorer quality if players. Awsome look I understand your frustration I do.. BUT how long would it take if you created a corp from scratch to get a hold in PC? NO cash from your main NO acquaintances / friends / enemies New everything How long would it take and how many people would you lose? I know they are giving districts away but, do you think that's really enough to be considered IN PC? Just because it took years for you to reach the position you are at does not make the system any less broken. Wait, this is much different. You have a taxation system. Use it. If your corporation has at least 30 active players you would reach the necessary isk in 4-5 days. Up to now, it would be pretty hard, but this time I am ok with what Roman says, because no "new guy" should find himself comfortable in PC as much as a newly created toon wouldn't find himself comfortable in an endgame raid. Ei fu, xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1400	Posted - 2015.01.23 14:30:00 - [192] - Quote Freccia di Lybra wrote: You seriously seem to miss what one of the real issues is in Planetary conquest is. It absolutely has flaws. You said earlier that the ultimate goal for a corporation is to own 100% of Molden Heath. Guess what? If Nyan wanted to, it would have been pretty easy: 1) Attack a district 2) Slowly flip it because they can 3) Change timer to the usual 13:00 or 12:00 4) They win PC Actually NS already won PC, none of their districts is under attack, and they're also selling them afaik. If you really want the competitiveness you seem to aim for, you cannot be that blind towards timers. Think about EU timezone: it's the most vulnerable timezone, period. We're exposed both to US attacks and Asia attacks and this is a major problem because of the inevitable, huge network lag one of the two factions will get. Is this competitive? No, it's not. It's an easy win for one of the two. I clearly remember a series of 5-6 matches against Hellstorm. It wasn't about tactics because both factions always used the same tactic on the same map. It wasn't about players because we always used the same players as they did. First match, we lost miserably. Second game, they got wrecked. Third game we got stomped. Fourth game we won by measure. They all weren't close games. Each game was like a pubstomp for one or the other corporation/alliance. Now answer this question: is this competitive? PC has flaws, and as much as I understand your frustration for the changes being in development, you should also understand the effort CCP is putting into PC in order to make it more competitive. For what concerns timers hiding, it has been a common tactic: you know who you're fighting, you know when they're online, therefor you set your timer at an unaccessible timezone, taking non-aggression agreements with the major corps at that timezone. Let's be honest. This is not competitive. Sounds compettive to me. Taking turns bashing each other is exactly lol. What would you consider competitive? I use to play this game, but my dog got sick- Zatara the Pizza Boy
Supacharjed Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 170	Posted - 2015.01.23 14:30:00 - [193] - Quote Roman, I respect your love for the current PC and all that stuff, but what among the changes do you not like? Commando CK.0 Proto Combat Rifle Commando MK.0 Proto Rail Rifle
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1400	Posted - 2015.01.23 14:34:00 - [194] - Quote Freccia di Lybra wrote: Roman837 wrote: i have been in dozens of match with Nyain at that time zone. For and against. Yup. I had to set my alarm and plan it on a weekend. I had to put time and effort into it. You are correct. What happens....is Nyain is complaining in Japanese on their forums saying our timers are way to hard to hit...and we are the ones hiding behind them. Mind blown. They don't complain. They attacked. And took them. Your lack or dedication and effort does not constitute an emergency or need to change anything. Get good. They do not complain because 1) They already have more districts than they wanted 2) Many of the timers are still accessible to them, with little to no required effort. while you had to set your alarm clock for a game, they just played regularly. But, don't get me wrong, if there were only one super-corporation in US it would work the same way. Nobody would attack you in your timer because it would be too early for asians and too late for europeans. How do you think NS got so many districts? you think people gave them away to them? They set alarm clocks and took them from other corps and then changed them to their time zones. See how that works? I use to play this game, but my dog got sick- Zatara the Pizza Boy
Freccia di Lybra Maphia Clan Corporation 385	Posted - 2015.01.23 14:41:00 - [195] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Freccia di Lybra wrote: You seriously seem to miss what one of the real issues is in Planetary conquest is. It absolutely has flaws. You said earlier that the ultimate goal for a corporation is to own 100% of Molden Heath. Guess what? If Nyan wanted to, it would have been pretty easy: 1) Attack a district 2) Slowly flip it because they can 3) Change timer to the usual 13:00 or 12:00 4) They win PC Actually NS already won PC, none of their districts is under attack, and they're also selling them afaik. If you really want the competitiveness you seem to aim for, you cannot be that blind towards timers. Think about EU timezone: it's the most vulnerable timezone, period. We're exposed both to US attacks and Asia attacks and this is a major problem because of the inevitable, huge network lag one of the two factions will get. Is this competitive? No, it's not. It's an easy win for one of the two. I clearly remember a series of 5-6 matches against Hellstorm. It wasn't about tactics because both factions always used the same tactic on the same map. It wasn't about players because we always used the same players as they did. First match, we lost miserably. Second game, they got wrecked. Third game we got stomped. Fourth game we won by measure. They all weren't close games. Each game was like a pubstomp for one or the other corporation/alliance. Now answer this question: is this competitive? PC has flaws, and as much as I understand your frustration for the changes being in development, you should also understand the effort CCP is putting into PC in order to make it more competitive. For what concerns timers hiding, it has been a common tactic: you know who you're fighting, you know when they're online, therefor you set your timer at an unaccessible timezone, taking non-aggression agreements with the major corps at that timezone. Let's be honest. This is not competitive. Sounds compettive to me. Taking turns bashing each other is exactly lol. What would you consider competitive? For me a competitive game would be when no one takes advantage from anything. Pure skills. Forcing you to set alarm clocks to play is simply stupid. And Roman, you know I, we already did set alarm clock to fight PCs. But long term it's devasting, ask anyone in my former alliance. That's why, if possible, they, we should find a better solution if there's one. Why, for example, fixed timer / fixed server location for each district shouldn't work? Ei fu, xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
Travis Stanush Y.A.M.A.H 317	Posted - 2015.01.23 14:42:00 - [196] - Quote Freccia di Lybra wrote: Travis Stanush wrote: Roman837 wrote: How the flying **** is this going to make the game any more competitive! The players with no skill and the lazy corps will still have no skill and they will still be lazy! Because instead of putting in hard work and training they begged for the standard to be lowered. Awsome. Well....When I was a kid I wanted to be a doctor. Then I realized I was way to stupid to be a doctor. I was offered extra schooling and somone to privately train me up to the required skills and knowledge. I said...Naa. ...I'm just going to write Sooo many nasty letters to the government and to the schools saying they should lower their academic requirement. That is your logic. Lower the bar...which will produce a poorer quality if players. Awsome look I understand your frustration I do.. BUT how long would it take if you created a corp from scratch to get a hold in PC? NO cash from your main NO acquaintances / friends / enemies New everything How long would it take and how many people would you lose? I know they are giving districts away but, do you think that's really enough to be considered IN PC? Just because it took years for you to reach the position you are at does not make the system any less broken. Wait, this is much different. You have a taxation system. Use it. If your corporation has at least 30 active players you would reach the necessary isk in 4-5 days. Up to now, it would be pretty hard, but this time I am ok with what Roman says, because no "new guy" should find himself comfortable in PC as much as a newly created toon wouldn't find himself comfortable in an endgame raid. Look I am saying he has survivors bias bad. He cannot discredit an entire group of people without understanding the sheer amount of frustration that comes with doing PC. There ARE well established Corps who do not PC because there is no reason to. When we started as Beta players we had the advantage of NOT fighting Mega Alliances. When I was in Gunfall on Skarkon after the first few days of it opening up it was entirely possible for new corps to be useful as Zerglings during mass attacks. Now? Nope too much of the player talent has been pooled in one area. I have been around long enough to see players burn out on PC come back and get burned again. Edit : You can either stay here and argue with nobodies like me or you can go to Features and Ideas and post your ideas. No I will not show you where they touched me!!!
Freccia di Lybra Maphia Clan Corporation 385	Posted - 2015.01.23 14:44:00 - [197] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: How do you think NS got so many districts? you think people gave them away to them? They set alarm clocks and took them from other corps and then changed them to their time zones. See how that works? That's not quite entirely true. They simply took many districts from EU timezone + other districts in Oceania Timezone + Other districts accessible in US timezone. Ei fu, xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1402	Posted - 2015.01.23 14:48:00 - [198] - Quote Getting burned out is something PC players know is going to happen. Everyone has experienced it. That is why you have corp mates, to pick up the slack when someone is not online. The timers are just that. They are timers. If you want said districts, you go and get them. Wanting them changed to make it easier for you is not a solution. But let me ask, with the timer changes are you saying your corps are going to participate in PC when it happens? I use to play this game, but my dog got sick- Zatara the Pizza Boy
Roman837 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 901	Posted - 2015.01.23 14:49:00 - [199] - Quote Rediculous. The people are going against current pc and pushing for thus new change. ..are Rediculous. Here is what a going to happen. You are going to make us angry. You wouldn't like us when we're angry. You are going to forge one of the most Powerfull coalition this game has ever seen. What ever changes happen. We will fight it. All the big players were call a truce. And dominate. Then when you are all gone. We will continue on as nothing has happened. Then...you will all cry on forums again. We will adapt. ..and the cycle continues. We play this game how it should be played. Ruthlessly. Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1403	Posted - 2015.01.23 14:49:00 - [200] - Quote Freccia di Lybra wrote: bigolenuts wrote: How do you think NS got so many districts? you think people gave them away to them? They set alarm clocks and took them from other corps and then changed them to their time zones. See how that works? That's not quite entirely true. They simply took many districts from EU timezone + other districts in Oceania Timezone. Do you even know what you are saying? lol...You are losing credibility very fast with me if you even had any. I use to play this game, but my dog got sick- Zatara the Pizza Boy

Roman837 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 901	Posted - 2015.01.23 14:51:00 - [201] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Getting burned out is something PC players know is going to happen. Everyone has experienced it. That is why you have corp mates, to pick up the slack when someone is not online. The timers are just that. They are timers. If you want said districts, you go and get them. Wanting them changed to make it easier for you is not a solution. But let me ask, with the timer changes are you saying your corps are going to participate in PC when it happens? no. They won't They will be where they are currently. Chirping from sidelines. We will suffer from it adapt and move on Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1403	Posted - 2015.01.23 14:53:00 - [202] - Quote you edited and took out the US timezone lol..YES, they went after those as well....They came calling in our prime time. I faced them many, many times when they were marching across the US time zones beating people down. They took districts from the Euro time zone, which is not their prime, you realize that and the Oceania. They played the game like it was intended to be played. Funny how that works huh? I use to play this game, but my dog got sick- Zatara the Pizza Boy
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1403	Posted - 2015.01.23 14:55:00 - [203] - Quote Roman837 wrote: bigolenuts wrote: Getting burned out is something PC players know is going to happen. Everyone has experienced it. That is why you have corp mates, to pick up the slack when someone is not online. The timers are just that. They are timers. If you want said districts, you go and get them. Wanting them changed to make it easier for you is not a solution. But let me ask, with the timer changes are you saying your corps are going to participate in PC when it happens? no. They won't They will be where they are currently. Chirping from sidelines. We will suffer from it adapt and move on I know they will. They just want something for nothing so they can get stomped out and cry again until the game is dumbed down so far that is like CoD. I bet if you took the time to research you would see the pro reset PC guys have made a reference at one time or another that this game should be more like CoD I use to play this game, but my dog got sick- Zatara the Pizza Boy
Freccia di Lybra Maphia Clan Corporation 385	Posted - 2015.01.23 14:55:00 - [204] - Quote Atiim wrote: Freccia di Lybra wrote: You don't attack them because you CAN'T FFS. Who is online on 13:00? People either work or are at school in EU, and it's way too early in US. NS timers "should" be as exposed as hell considering all of their districts except one is at 13:00. Ask them if they never sold a district. And btw, what about network lag? how would you fix intercontinental matches? What are you talking about? We can and we do attack them. All it takes is for us to send a mail to our corp saying "early PC against NS, set your alarm clocks" and we'll have a full team ready to go at their timer. And you know what we do? We take their district. Given how NS's primetime actually is 1300, they have to do the same thing if they want to take one of the districts on our timers so it's far from the unfair one-sided battle you make it out to be. As for selling districts, any and everyone has sold a district before. However if you actually bothered to ask someone from NS you'd know that they do give away districts for free if you ask them. Network lag gets fixed by kicking players if their ping is too high, and I don't seeing anything wrong with intercontinental matches. Look, it's always a matter of TZ and players. If I asked my mates to get up early for a PC on a Sunday, the probably would do it once, maybe twice. But the third time they all would virtually slap me. With my former alliance we already did it: alarm clock at 05:00 to fight teamplayers and Syn. But, hell, after the second night of fightings we all was burned out... Ei fu, xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
Travis Stanush Y.A.M.A.H 317	Posted - 2015.01.23 14:57:00 - [205] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Getting burned out is something PC players know is going to happen. Everyone has experienced it. That is why you have corp mates, to pick up the slack when someone is not online. The timers are just that. They are timers. If you want said districts, you go and get them. Wanting them changed to make it easier for you is not a solution. But let me ask, with the timer changes are you saying your corps are going to participate in PC when it happens? Mine IS and frankly speaking if it wasn't for the charity from established PC corps we would have been wiped out already. I really would like a way for small groups to actually have a purpose other that being the charity cases of PC. The way some of you are acting it seems you don't want any changes. If any of you would post actual ideas in the forums instead of making a private channel many of us would feel like you gave a ****. No I will not show you where they touched me!!!
H0riz0n Unlimit Dead Man's Game 341	Posted - 2015.01.23 15:03:00 - [206] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Freccia di Lybra wrote: bigolenuts wrote: How do you think NS got so many districts? you think people gave them away to them? They set alarm clocks and took them from other corps and then changed them to their time zones. See how that works? That's not quite entirely true. They simply took many districts from EU timezone + other districts in Oceania Timezone. Do you even know what you are saying? lol...You are losing credibility very fast with me if you even had any. Does your credibility count anything? Idk who you are but if you say only he is wrong that doesnt make you right The KTM DuKe lives here, send a message after the "beep".One of the few vehiculist remained in dust 514
Travis Stanush Y.A.M.A.H 317	Posted - 2015.01.23 15:03:00 - [207] - Quote Roman837 wrote: Rediculous. The people are going against current pc and pushing for thus new change. ..are Rediculous. Here is what a going to happen. You are going to make us angry. You wouldn't like us when we're angry. You are going to forge one of the most Powerfull coalition this game has ever seen. What ever changes happen. We will fight it. All the big players were call a truce. And dominate. Then when you are all gone. We will continue on as nothing has happened. Then...you will all cry on forums again. We will adapt. ..and the cycle continues. We play this game how it should be played. Ruthlessly. You really believe there is nothing wrong with the way PC is now? Is there nothing you would do to improve it? Please do forge you alliance just like DNS we all know how well that worked out last time right? No I will not show you where they touched me!!!
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1403	Posted - 2015.01.23 15:03:00 - [208] - Quote This is as public as it gets. You are even saying what experienced PC players have been saying all along. People will help you. It is about building relationships in PC. You'll not survive alone. Even the best 16 this game has to offer don't stand a chance. Yeah, they will win some games but they will lose ground if they have any. If your team burned out on day 2 then why would you even want to get into PC? You guys really want this game dumbed down. It is becoming more clear now. You want it to be like every other cookie cutter shooter than you can dominate after playing 3-4 hours. Pathetic. I use to play this game, but my dog got sick- Zatara the Pizza Boy
Freccia di Lybra Maphia Clan Corporation 385	Posted - 2015.01.23 15:05:00 - [209] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: But let me ask, with the timer changes are you saying your corps are going to participate in PC when it happens? No, my corporation does not exist anymore. As the alliance does not exist anymore. As the corporations that used to be in the alliance does not exist anymore. All of my corpmates are in other corporation and on ps4 and I would never ask them to come back, even if I'm pretty confident some of them would. But, sure, I may join one corp with one of my alts and participate in PC, why not? I'm pretty confident in my skills, I might not be the best player, but a good "PC player" yes. Ei fu, xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1403	Posted - 2015.01.23 15:05:00 - [210] - Quote H0riz0n Unlimit wrote: bigolenuts wrote: Freccia di Lybra wrote: bigolenuts wrote: How do you think NS got so many districts? you think people gave them away to them? They set alarm clocks and took them from other corps and then changed them to their time zones. See how that works? That's not quite entirely true. They simply took many districts from EU timezone + other districts in Oceania Timezone. Do you even know what you are saying? lol...You are losing credibility very fast with me if you even had any. Does your credibility count anything? Idk who you are but if you say only he is wrong that doesnt make you right you obviously don't see what he is saying either. What he says is, that NS took districts in EU time zone, in Oceania and he said US time zone then edited it. That is exactly what they did. They got up on the timers and took them in other corps prime time. That is EXACTLY how it should be done. I use to play this game, but my dog got sick- Zatara the Pizza Boy



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