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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
7332
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Posted - 2015.01.22 02:59:00 -
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Slave of MORTE wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Roman837 wrote:Wait wait wait. Did he honestly just say...that one does not have to experience pc....to understand pc?
Using the famous quote from a living dust genius and philanthropist. "So...your telling me that if a 1000 friends tell you how to bang a girl. ..that it instantly give you 15 minutes of stamina and makes you a **** star" -xSaphir3
Ya.....your argument is invalid.
And I suppose having had sex or "banged a girl" would give you the anatomical knowledge of a medical doctor? Sorry if your concepts of knowledge and creativity are so narrowly focused. But I am sure that is what makes you the best for coming up with ideas. Roman plays pc every single day and has for likely over a year that's what makes him knowledgeable To expand on your crude metaphor he may not have the intellectual experience of a doctor after being with a woman for a few years but he knows how to make her purr nonetheless vs your fumbling virgin fingers
I never said he wasn't knowledgeable, nor do I doubt his PC experience or skill.
Just that there are more levels of knowledge, and that being part of a broader discussion with a broader group will yield better results for Dust as a whole.
I may disagree with people like Kain at times, but at least I can respect him bringing the discussion to the appropriate places and not feeling the need to hide from everyone.
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
"I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
255
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Posted - 2015.01.22 03:04:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:
I don't need experience to read through feedback, put things together, ask questions, and provide feedback if I have any.
I read through an significant portion of a tank thread just to understand what the issues are, and the ideas that are out there from experienced people. Not only were they knowledgeable (particularly Pokey and True), but they certainly didn't feel the need to request CCP only talk with them because they were the only ones that knew anything...
You would be amazed at how much you can learn from gathering info from people that do a good job of analysis without being jerks about it. Sometimes ideas can be generated through discussions including all levels of experience because of happenstance and creativity.
Likewise, some very experienced people can become entrenched in ideas, and as a result offer no creative solutions, or simply not acknowledge there are problems to begin with.
And I don't need to have PC experience to know it is not in a good place right now, or to suggest new never-tried ideas that may breath new life into it and support ideas from others that would be for the betterment of Dust as a whole.
So you're saying you can generate great feedback and ideas for PC from information/discussions produced by pub-only players? |
Slave of MORTE
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
181
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Posted - 2015.01.22 03:06:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Slave of MORTE wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Roman837 wrote:Wait wait wait. Did he honestly just say...that one does not have to experience pc....to understand pc?
Using the famous quote from a living dust genius and philanthropist. "So...your telling me that if a 1000 friends tell you how to bang a girl. ..that it instantly give you 15 minutes of stamina and makes you a **** star" -xSaphir3
Ya.....your argument is invalid.
And I suppose having had sex or "banged a girl" would give you the anatomical knowledge of a medical doctor? Sorry if your concepts of knowledge and creativity are so narrowly focused. But I am sure that is what makes you the best for coming up with ideas. Roman plays pc every single day and has for likely over a year that's what makes him knowledgeable To expand on your crude metaphor he may not have the intellectual experience of a doctor after being with a woman for a few years but he knows how to make her purr nonetheless vs your fumbling virgin fingers I never said he wasn't knowledgeable, nor do I doubt his PC experience or skill. Just that there are more levels of knowledge, and that being part of a broader discussion with a broader group will yield better results for Dust as a whole. I may disagree with people like Kain at times, but at least I can respect him bringing the discussion to the appropriate places and not feeling the need to hide from everyone.
Being part of a broader discussion ..how broad
Anyone who's played dust for 10 minutes should talk about the competitive mode that's supposed to be what new players strive towards. people who have never experienced pc shouldn't be taken as seriously as those that always play pc ..
These forums have very few active pc players on them ..they are not an accurate way to gather info to create appropriate fixes.
Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
1953
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Posted - 2015.01.22 03:13:00 -
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Roman837 wrote:CCP. If you are reading this. And you implement a change that is based off of this morons views and inputs. ...I can guarentee you will lose the remainder of your competitive players.
When was the last time this person was in a PC? Please talk to us. Not them. That is what I am asking. Discuss it with the players it involves!
We already have a chat formed. We had a very long meeting on it last night. We are all in agreement. And by we I mean the leaders of the corps currently in pc.
Do not listen to people who are not involved to make big decisions.
Zatara? Who is Zatara. I wasted my vote on him I think. Is he the cpm of destiny?
It isn't ccp's job to chase after you and kiss your ass to get feedback. If you want to provide constructive feedback provide it, if you don't want to? stay silent.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
7332
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Posted - 2015.01.22 03:16:00 -
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Slave of MORTE wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Slave of MORTE wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Roman837 wrote:Wait wait wait. Did he honestly just say...that one does not have to experience pc....to understand pc?
Using the famous quote from a living dust genius and philanthropist. "So...your telling me that if a 1000 friends tell you how to bang a girl. ..that it instantly give you 15 minutes of stamina and makes you a **** star" -xSaphir3
Ya.....your argument is invalid.
And I suppose having had sex or "banged a girl" would give you the anatomical knowledge of a medical doctor? Sorry if your concepts of knowledge and creativity are so narrowly focused. But I am sure that is what makes you the best for coming up with ideas. Roman plays pc every single day and has for likely over a year that's what makes him knowledgeable To expand on your crude metaphor he may not have the intellectual experience of a doctor after being with a woman for a few years but he knows how to make her purr nonetheless vs your fumbling virgin fingers I never said he wasn't knowledgeable, nor do I doubt his PC experience or skill. Just that there are more levels of knowledge, and that being part of a broader discussion with a broader group will yield better results for Dust as a whole. I may disagree with people like Kain at times, but at least I can respect him bringing the discussion to the appropriate places and not feeling the need to hide from everyone. Being part of a broader discussion ..how broad Anyone who's played dust for 10 minutes should talk about the competitive mode that's supposed to be what new players strive towards. people who have never experienced pc shouldn't be taken as seriously as those that always play pc .. These forums have very few active pc players on them ..they are not an accurate way to gather info to create appropriate fixes.
But how can you make something those players should want to be part of if you don't get feedback from them about what they want?
If you have a core group of PC players wanting to create a system that does not at all appeal to those who are not already part of it what good is that?
If that same group wants something like passive ISK, they should at least be able to explain to those not in PC how it will be addressed in a way that won't result in a breaking any potential market that CCP is trying to create.
In the same way that someone may not have experience playing lots of PC, you may not have enough experience outside of it to understand where a CEO of a small but growing group of players is coming from or all of the barriers that coming in to grow a corp in the midst of a lot of veteran corps is coming from.
All the voices above are equally as valuable as the experienced large corp CEO.
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
"I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
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Ghostt Shadoww
Carne Con Papas
159
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Posted - 2015.01.22 03:16:00 -
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This is why I have said. There is no point posting in here. That's why we have our War Room. And back two years ago. Devs cared and came in The War Room Daily. Spoke with us Daily. And ban us daily. But we were active with each other. During the big Kain Days.
But now we don't post here becuase of stupid comments from dumb people that have the slightest clue...
This is why My Real Dust Brethren...
Let's Open Molden Heath (that's PC world for you newbs) . I have posted in Yoshi thread. You will see what I mean.
Let's go Pub stomp Guys. Let's trade places. Let them in our world for free. And we go into there world. See what happens later later. Hehe
Let's Bounce Fellas
(Read my comment in Yoshi thread. Will explain everything)
Something Awful is going on around here. Hehe
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Derrith Erador
Heaven's Lost Property
3325
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Posted - 2015.01.22 04:05:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:
1)I don't need experience to read through feedback, put things together, ask questions, and provide feedback if I have any.
2) I read through an significant portion of a tank thread just to understand what the issues are, and the ideas that are out there from experienced people. Not only were they knowledgeable (particularly Pokey and True), but they certainly didn't feel the need to request CCP only talk with them because they were the only ones that knew anything...
3) You would be amazed at how much you can learn from gathering info from people that do a good job of analysis without being jerks about it. Sometimes ideas can be generated through discussions including all levels of experience because of happenstance and creativity.
4) And I don't need to have PC experience to know it is not in a good place right now, or to suggest new never-tried ideas that may breath new life into it and support ideas from others that would be for the betterment of Dust as a whole.
1) Uuhhhhhhh, yeah you do. In this instance, yes you do.
2) Well, take it from this perspective. The only people who whined about tanks were people who knew nothing about. CCP butchered tanks to a point to where the only useful tank on the field is a dual tanked bastard gunnlogi at the request of the people who knew nothing about tanks. CCP butchered PC the same way they butchered tanks and ADS, by not listening to those who knew what they were talking about.
3) You're half right on this. All levels of experience is where you're wrong. Again, people who don't know what they're talking about should not talk.
4) Again, you really shouldn't talk about PC if you have no experience. PC world is all about experience these days. And I've looked at all the so far suggested ideas, they're terrible.
99% of what Derrith says is stupidity. -D3lta Blitzkrieg
Oh yeah?! Well, I love redheads.
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hfderrtgvcd
1741
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Posted - 2015.01.22 04:08:00 -
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Derrith Erador wrote:One Eyed King wrote:
1)I don't need experience to read through feedback, put things together, ask questions, and provide feedback if I have any.
2) I read through an significant portion of a tank thread just to understand what the issues are, and the ideas that are out there from experienced people. Not only were they knowledgeable (particularly Pokey and True), but they certainly didn't feel the need to request CCP only talk with them because they were the only ones that knew anything...
3) You would be amazed at how much you can learn from gathering info from people that do a good job of analysis without being jerks about it. Sometimes ideas can be generated through discussions including all levels of experience because of happenstance and creativity.
4) And I don't need to have PC experience to know it is not in a good place right now, or to suggest new never-tried ideas that may breath new life into it and support ideas from others that would be for the betterment of Dust as a whole.
And I've looked at all the so far suggested ideas, they're terrible.
So suggest your own
You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
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Derrith Erador
Heaven's Lost Property
3326
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Posted - 2015.01.22 04:10:00 -
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:Derrith Erador wrote:One Eyed King wrote:
1)I don't need experience to read through feedback, put things together, ask questions, and provide feedback if I have any.
2) I read through an significant portion of a tank thread just to understand what the issues are, and the ideas that are out there from experienced people. Not only were they knowledgeable (particularly Pokey and True), but they certainly didn't feel the need to request CCP only talk with them because they were the only ones that knew anything...
3) You would be amazed at how much you can learn from gathering info from people that do a good job of analysis without being jerks about it. Sometimes ideas can be generated through discussions including all levels of experience because of happenstance and creativity.
4) And I don't need to have PC experience to know it is not in a good place right now, or to suggest new never-tried ideas that may breath new life into it and support ideas from others that would be for the betterment of Dust as a whole.
And I've looked at all the so far suggested ideas, they're terrible. So suggest your own
*cough* already did! *cough*
99% of what Derrith says is stupidity. -D3lta Blitzkrieg
Oh yeah?! Well, I love redheads.
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hfderrtgvcd
1743
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Posted - 2015.01.22 04:15:00 -
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Derrith Erador wrote:hfderrtgvcd wrote:Derrith Erador wrote:One Eyed King wrote:
1)I don't need experience to read through feedback, put things together, ask questions, and provide feedback if I have any.
2) I read through an significant portion of a tank thread just to understand what the issues are, and the ideas that are out there from experienced people. Not only were they knowledgeable (particularly Pokey and True), but they certainly didn't feel the need to request CCP only talk with them because they were the only ones that knew anything...
3) You would be amazed at how much you can learn from gathering info from people that do a good job of analysis without being jerks about it. Sometimes ideas can be generated through discussions including all levels of experience because of happenstance and creativity.
4) And I don't need to have PC experience to know it is not in a good place right now, or to suggest new never-tried ideas that may breath new life into it and support ideas from others that would be for the betterment of Dust as a whole.
And I've looked at all the so far suggested ideas, they're terrible. So suggest your own *cough* already did! *cough*
Those are actually excellent ideas. I hope you don't mind that I've posted them in Rattati's feedback thread
You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
3724
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Posted - 2015.01.22 05:51:00 -
[101] - Quote
One Eyed King wrote:
And I don't need to have PC experience to know it is not in a good place right now, or to suggest new never-tried ideas that may breath new life into it and support ideas from others that would be for the betterment of Dust as a whole.
CCP.....doesn't this seem odd to you? This is exactly what this thread is about. Guys that don't or have never participated in pc before making suggestions on how to change it lol.
Would anyone take advice on women from someone who doesn't know where the "hole" is?? My corp isn't active like we were and yet we still participate in pc. Anyone that doesn't participate in pc just choose not to out of fear or lack of competitive drive....it's that simple.
People complain about lag and framerate drops as if it is any better in pub matches. Some moron even said that he could earn more in pubs than he can in pc matches and that's why he doesn't play.
You have to consider the suggestions from guys who actually play this game and the mode that's being considered for revision.......and not from guys who just wet their panties over the math and numbers.
Shield tanking is hard mode /period.
> Check RND out here
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Freccia di Lybra
Maphia Clan Corporation
369
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Posted - 2015.01.22 11:15:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:
1)CCP.....doesn't this seem odd to you? This is exactly what this thread is about. Guys that don't or have never participated in pc before making suggestions on how to change it lol.
2)Would anyone take advice on women from someone who doesn't know where the "hole" is?? My corp isn't active like we were and yet we still participate in pc. Anyone that doesn't participate in pc just choose not to out of fear or lack of competitive drive....it's that simple.
3)People complain about lag and framerate drops as if it is any better in pub matches. Some moron even said that he could earn more in pubs than he can in pc matches and that's why he doesn't play.
4)You have to consider the suggestions from guys who actually play this game and the mode that's being considered for revision.......and not from guys who just wet their panties over the math and numbers.
It's just so wrong.
1) There must be a reason why people deliberately don't want to participate at Dust endgame. No endgame = less players = less money = less content = less player again and so go on.
2) Fear of a game? Lack of competitive drive? What's the point in being non-competitive in Dust as a whole game? there's no Pve, there's nothing preventing you from being competitive, except for being idle in matches and simply doing nothing the whole time. The fact you are actually playing even if not regularly, clearly shows that you are competitive at some degree.
3) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxip2n9VXjo
And it was the same for anyone on my side, every PC match, ever (and there has been hundreds of matches). It is much different. I too keep hearing from people that it really doesn't change much, but really for many players in my region it's not the case. Connection issues? ps3 issues? I can't really say. What I can say is that this is a great big wall even for experienced players.
4) In my former alliance we saw this timers problem coming much time before PC was released. Actually, Cazaderon was the first to notice that the whole timers thing were totally wrong. Just from "numbers" and sporadic infos.Also, If you want to make a better game, it's more valuable to know why players don't like it than why the others like it, and after all, if Dust has serious problem is 50% because of dumb community.
Ei fu,
xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
868
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Posted - 2015.01.22 13:09:00 -
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CCP. Please respond to us. Talk to us before making any changes. There is no rush to making a change and making a release. No one will be upset if you delay an update if it means it's the perfect update.
We don't care if it takes another month. Just make it the correct update and changes and not one that's gonna kill everything we have worked for!
What's more important....being loyal to the people who have been loyal to you? Stuck it out with you....for over 2 years...we are the pc players. Or is it more important to appease everyone else? The casuals of this game....The ones who will leave when some new flash game comes along.
Please pick us.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
868
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Posted - 2015.01.22 13:32:00 -
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Oh wow. Just had a moment of clarity. CCP....If you want corps and players to become more involved in PC without them needing to risk isk..or getting removed...I have a perfect option!
Give each corp...a home base...a Perma district. A fake district. Don't put it in any of the real districts spots...Make it so your corp has to have a set amount of corp members to unlock your corps home world. Make this district have the ability to be set to. ...online or offline. Online. ..meaning it can launch an attack....and be attacked... but not flipped....and no offline....so that if they want a break from pc they don't get attacked.
Make these districts not part of current pc format. Almost like a corp battle separate mode. Allow them to choose and change their infrastructure for free. And let them launch clones against each other. ..Annnd news flash. ..yes allow them to launch an attack against MH...When they are ready to move into the real world.
This would solve so many issues. Would give corps a home world which is amazing. And will allow them to practice and test out pc without the huge isk commitment or risk of being removed. They can fight at their leisure
...and then come join us.
Roman just won dust
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Slave of MORTE
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
183
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Posted - 2015.01.22 14:19:00 -
[105] - Quote
[/quote]
But how can you make something those players should want to be part of if you don't get feedback from them about what they want?
If you have a core group of PC players wanting to create a system that does not at all appeal to those who are not already part of it what good is that?
If that same group wants something like passive ISK, they should at least be able to explain to those not in PC how it will be addressed in a way that won't result in a breaking any potential market that CCP is trying to create.
In the same way that someone may not have experience playing lots of PC, you may not have enough experience outside of it to understand where a CEO of a small but growing group of players is coming from or all of the barriers that coming in to grow a corp in the midst of a lot of veteran corps is coming from.
All the voices above are equally as valuable as the experienced large corp CEO.[/quote]
Actually I can be found on every server in every mode including pc and rarely can I be found in a proto suit in pubs despite being one of those people who could spam proto forever. So I can say I've experienced all of dust
But there are things in pc that a non pc player won't understand mechanics who's effects they may not fully understand ..all the time half asses fixes go through that just make things worse or a different version of the same hell...how many times have these forums tried to fix pc ....
Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
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Slave of MORTE
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
183
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Posted - 2015.01.22 14:25:00 -
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Roman837 wrote:Oh wow. Just had a moment of clarity. CCP....If you want corps and players to become more involved in PC without them needing to risk isk..or getting removed...I have a perfect option!
Give each corp...a home base...a Perma district. A fake district. Don't put it in any of the real districts spots...Make it so your corp has to have a set amount of corp members to unlock your corps home world. Make this district have the ability to be set to. ...online or offline. Online. ..meaning it can launch an attack....and be attacked... but not flipped....and no offline....so that if they want a break from pc they don't get attacked.
Make these districts not part of current pc format. Almost like a corp battle separate mode. Allow them to choose and change their infrastructure for free. And let them launch clones against each other. ..Annnd news flash. ..yes allow them to launch an attack against MH...When they are ready to move into the real world.
This would solve so many issues. Would give corps a home world which is amazing. And will allow them to practice and test out pc without the huge isk commitment or risk of being removed. They can fight at their leisure
...and then come join us.
Roman just won dust
DO IT CCP IT'S BETTER THAT TACOS MIEN. IT'S JUST RIGHT
Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
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Atiim
Titans of Phoenix
15188
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Posted - 2015.01.22 14:29:00 -
[107] - Quote
One Eyed King wrote:
I never said he wasn't knowledgeable, nor do I doubt his PC experience or skill.
Just that there are more levels of knowledge, and that being part of a broader discussion with a broader group will yield better results for Dust as a whole.
I may disagree with people like Kain at times, but at least I can respect him bringing the discussion to the appropriate places and not feeling the need to hide from everyone.
The problem with "there being more levels of knowledge", is that there aren't. If you haven't participated in Planetary Conquest you can't comment on which mecanics are bad and which ones are good, nor can you suggest which ones need to be improved on because your Intel is based on hearsay and is likely incorrect.
These forums only consist of about 100 people at best, and when you have a playerbase of 4k that means only 3% of them will actually be heard by the DEVs. Compared to a channel with well over 100 members who are representing corps and groups with around 200+ members it's feedback on the forums which is actually being hidden.
That aside, I don't see why so many players in this thread are opposed to CCP going into the channel to collect feedback from the ones who know what they're talking about. You'll still be able to make your terrible suggestions and act as if you know what you're talking about, but CCP will simply have feedback that will actually improve the situation.
The 1st Matari Commando
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Yokal Bob
Titans of Phoenix
VP Gaming Alliance
677
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Posted - 2015.01.22 14:30:00 -
[108] - Quote
one thing you dont need pc experience for
LAG
/{o.o}/ ---L Inflatable hammer strikes again
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
876
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Posted - 2015.01.22 14:44:00 -
[109] - Quote
Make it so that district only can launch 200 clones....and make it have a cool down timer. So they can't re attack the next night. This will give them a taste. Then. ...If they get attacked....they instantly have 200 defenders. Bam...This would be awsome. They can attack and get a taste. ...and if attacked still have clones to defend...The clones left defending is separate from the attacking clones....and no the attacking clones are on a cool down timer.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Slave of MORTE
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
184
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Posted - 2015.01.22 14:45:00 -
[110] - Quote
Yokal Bob wrote:one thing you dont need pc experience for
LAG
So true
Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
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Slave of MORTE
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
184
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Posted - 2015.01.22 14:46:00 -
[111] - Quote
Roman837 wrote:Make it so that district only can launch 200 clones....and make it have a cool down timer. So they can't re attack the next night. This will give them a taste. Then. ...If they get attacked....they instantly have 200 defenders. Bam...This would be awsome. They can attack and get a taste. ...and if attacked still have clones to defend...The clones left defending is separate from the attacking clones....and no the attacking clones are on a cool down timer.
By the time this thread closes I will have liked you to much great father
Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
876
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Posted - 2015.01.22 14:46:00 -
[112] - Quote
And yes CCP...As of April I am available for hire. Wages negotiable between isk and real money.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
5529
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Posted - 2015.01.22 15:01:00 -
[113] - Quote
Roman837 wrote:Oh wow. Just had a moment of clarity. CCP....If you want corps and players to become more involved in PC without them needing to risk isk..or getting removed...I have a perfect option!
Give each corp...a home base...a Perma district. A fake district. Don't put it in any of the real districts spots...Make it so your corp has to have a set amount of corp members to unlock your corps home world. Make this district have the ability to be set to. ...online or offline. Online. ..meaning it can launch an attack....and be attacked... but not flipped....and no offline....so that if they want a break from pc they don't get attacked.
Make these districts not part of current pc format. Almost like a corp battle separate mode. Allow them to choose and change their infrastructure for free. And let them launch clones against each other. ..Annnd news flash. ..yes allow them to launch an attack against MH...When they are ready to move into the real world.
This would solve so many issues. Would give corps a home world which is amazing. And will allow them to practice and test out pc without the huge isk commitment or risk of being removed. They can fight at their leisure
...and then come join us.
Roman just won dust
It's like in your moment of clarify... you kinda sorta maybe figured out what CCP was already doing. The whole corporate warbarge thing is like your corp's headquarters, which generates clone packs you can launch attacks from...
You didn't really win DUST. In fact, you're kinda late to the party. :/
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
879
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Posted - 2015.01.22 15:05:00 -
[114] - Quote
I hope you didn't plan on running for cpm again next year. I'll make it my dust goal to either ensure you don't get reelected...or that I do just so I can shut you up on comms when you make stupid decisions.
I will call my platform. The United Corps Against Stupid Decisions.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
879
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Posted - 2015.01.22 15:06:00 -
[115] - Quote
Soraya Xel wrote:Roman837 wrote:Oh wow. Just had a moment of clarity. CCP....If you want corps and players to become more involved in PC without them needing to risk isk..or getting removed...I have a perfect option!
Give each corp...a home base...a Perma district. A fake district. Don't put it in any of the real districts spots...Make it so your corp has to have a set amount of corp members to unlock your corps home world. Make this district have the ability to be set to. ...online or offline. Online. ..meaning it can launch an attack....and be attacked... but not flipped....and no offline....so that if they want a break from pc they don't get attacked.
Make these districts not part of current pc format. Almost like a corp battle separate mode. Allow them to choose and change their infrastructure for free. And let them launch clones against each other. ..Annnd news flash. ..yes allow them to launch an attack against MH...When they are ready to move into the real world.
This would solve so many issues. Would give corps a home world which is amazing. And will allow them to practice and test out pc without the huge isk commitment or risk of being removed. They can fight at their leisure
...and then come join us.
Roman just won dust It's like in your moment of clarify... you kinda sorta maybe figured out what CCP was already doing. The whole corporate warbarge thing is like your corp's headquarters, which generates clone packs you can launch attacks from... You didn't really win DUST. In fact, you're kinda late to the party. :/
Also. ..late to the party? I'm the one always hosting the dam party. Or being invited to others. Your the loser who sits at home and creeps our pics and posts on Facebook and is Sooo upset you call in noise complaints to ruin our fun because you're not apart of it
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.22 15:11:00 -
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You got us old master poster Cpm. You have proven that if we don't always read the forums and make stupid posts....that our voices won't be heard. You got us! We post in the war room. Where pc players belong.
Look what happens when we do post? You try to **** on us. This change is directed at PC correct? Well shouldn't you be voicing the opinions of PC players?
The role of a voted in member is not to push their own agenda and hope the masses back them. It's to voice the members wishes...and represent them. Even if you don't agree. Your a voice. A tool.
We the pc players make up a huge majority of active players. And I am among the most active of that group.
I am voicing the opinions and thoughts of our players.
Collectively. ..I bet they think you're an idiot for pushing your own a agenda on a topic you don't even participate in. Please stick to your area of expertise. Getting crushed in pubs.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
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Posted - 2015.01.22 15:28:00 -
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Roman837 wrote:I hope you didn't plan on running for cpm again next year. I'll make it my dust goal to either ensure you don't get reelected...or that I do just so I can shut you up on comms when you make stupid decisions.
I will call my platform. The United Corps Against Stupid Decisions.
I've been very public about my intentions in this regard. Provided at least one other CPM1 is running, I won't run for CPM2. I have a lot of responsibilities I've been neglecting IRL to be a CPM, and I should be get back to life. And maybe find a girlfriend or something. However, I do feel continuity between CPMs is very important, and I will stick around if nobody else does.
Roman837 wrote:Also. ..late to the party? I'm the one always hosting the dam party. Or being invited to others. Your the loser who sits at home and creeps our pics and posts on Facebook and is Sooo upset you call in noise complaints to ruin our fun because you're not apart of it
Actually, I go to a party twice a year with the Goons. It actually gets livestreamed in Twitch and people watch it. I feel really sorry for those people.
Roman837 wrote:You got us old master poster Cpm. You have proven that if we don't always read the forums and make stupid posts....that our voices won't be heard. You got us! We post in the war room. Where pc players belong.
Look what happens when we do post? You try to **** on us. This change is directed at PC correct? Well shouldn't you be voicing the opinions of PC players?
The role of a voted in member is not to push their own agenda and hope the masses back them. It's to voice the members wishes...and represent them. Even if you don't agree. Your a voice. A tool.
We the pc players make up a huge majority of active players. And I am among the most active of that group.
I am voicing the opinions and thoughts of our players.
Collectively. ..I bet they think you're an idiot for pushing your own a agenda on a topic you don't even participate in. Please stick to your area of expertise. Getting crushed in pubs.
PC players aren't everyone, and the goal is to expand PC. Not keep it contained in Roman's boat. The War Room is a great place for the PC community to interact, but you have to go to Feedback if you want to affect game development.
I've only recommended like eighty times now that you go in the feedback board and review the proposed changes in those threads and respond there. As Rattati reads every post in those threads. I am not sure what you think you have to complain about with not being listened to, because you're being told exactly where you can go speak and be heard.
And my actual job is not just to mimic what everyone on the forums tells me to to CCP. We're supposed to collate data, gather opinions, filter out bad data, and generate recommendations. Our job naturally entails determining when someone's feedback is really really biased and taking that into account.
The fact you think PC players make up a "huge majority" of active players is distinctly hilarious. I might hang that quote up on my wall.
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.01.22 15:46:00 -
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I can agree with you, but I also agree that players who haven't done PC have a right to make an impact on the new changes. Unless we want them to continue to not play it? We muse remember the reason they're not playing it in the first place.
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
881
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Posted - 2015.01.22 16:23:00 -
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Looks like CCP reads these posts aswell as they have been liking my posts.
Want this game to die? Don't listen to me or other PC players. This is where you are the delusional one. We are the majority. Our corps are the pc corps. We are the ones killing and being killed. We are the ones playing that collects your data. Hence why every player in the top 200 om any leader board is a person who plays pc. That's why all top 20 weekly corp stats are from corps who play pc.
We play the most. In pubs and pc. You want to make changes that mainly represent the causal players? The ones who might long on for an hour?
Talk about a ****** up logic. You would slap in the face those who are the most dedicated to appease the ones who are not?
Mark my words. Put this on your wall post up. Anger the PC community and watch dust die.
Anger the leaders who control those players...watch dust die.
Continue listening to people who have no dam clue what they talking about. Watch dust die.
Write that on your ******* wall.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
881
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Posted - 2015.01.22 16:42:00 -
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If CCP wanted the best ever data collection and feed back possible. They wouldn't need me to make a post that will just get lost in a sea of us less posts. They will contact us.
You know what would be the most amazing thing ever?
If one day I work up and logged on and my notifications on dust said "your district on oddelulf has been attacked" and then in the description of who attacked us. It would be CCP. I would have a nightmare picking who to bring in. People would be so super excited.
Everyone would love that. A chance to show CCP how much we love their game. ..by stomping them with our favorite suits and weapons.
This game isn't stats and numbers. It's team work. Planning. Organization. Moral...and being able to raise your players moral.
We worked for where we're at. Wasn't easy mode like your suggesting.
We're proud of our accomplishments. Don't take it away
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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