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Bat Shard0 Stardust Incorporation 64	Posted - 2014.11.14 19:53:00 - [1] - Quote Unfortunately.... http://dust514news.blogspot.com/
Isa Lucifer Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 95	Posted - 2014.11.16 08:07:00 - [2] - Quote seems so, but patience rewards. Amarr Victor
da GAND Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 980	Posted - 2014.11.18 14:25:00 - [3] - Quote Isa Lucifer wrote: seems so, but patience rewards. Ya... just like last fanfest... cuz we all thought we were getting something new for Dust.... Should Legion be on the ps4?
Sergamon Draco Rautaleijona 538	Posted - 2014.11.24 18:05:00 - [4] - Quote Imagine if they would announce that legion would come also ps4 Fck the kdr,i`m going in
da GAND Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 991	Posted - 2014.11.24 20:31:00 - [5] - Quote Sergamon Draco wrote: Imagine if they would announce that legion would come also ps4 Should it come to the ps4 also? Should Legion be on the ps4?
DaReaperPW Net 7 34	Posted - 2014.11.24 20:50:00 - [6] - Quote The only real bad news you could get is if both dust and legion were shutting down. I don't think that's likely unless ccp decides to change directions again.
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Capital Punishment. 2743	Posted - 2014.11.25 11:08:00 - [7] - Quote DaReaperPW wrote: The only real bad news you could get is if both dust and legion were shutting down. I don't think that's likely unless ccp decides to change directions again. You want bad news that isn't that? "Your Loyalty Level will transfer but not your SP." "You will have to completely start a new character." "Legion is not 'DUST on the PC' so we will forever keep these separate." (Basically, "sorry we switched sides; try again.") The only way that CCP can blow it out of the park is to say AND SHOW: "Project Legion is simply 'DUST 514 on the PC.' Oh, and PS4. waits for applause to die. They are the same game. Let me be clear by what I mean. We don't mean 'these games are the same like Call of Battle on PC and PS4'... they share the same server side. PC or PS4: you decide, play with your friends that are console or those that are PC and switch between the two." Or, even worse than bad news; no news. Another year of complete tone deafness that gives a starving community a cracker of information every few months. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
Aoena Rays Bragian Order Amarr Empire 544	Posted - 2014.11.26 05:26:00 - [8] - Quote They are probably finalizing fanfest plans now, it is in march after all, so I'd not be surprised to see some info soon. Story of your life

CCP Frame C C P C C P Alliance 4836	Posted - 2014.11.27 02:22:00 - [9] - Quote Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. CCP Frame

Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 5121	Posted - 2014.11.27 02:44:00 - [10] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. a¦á_a¦á You guys make it really hard to like you sometimes, you know that? My advice to you, playa...

G Felix 272	Posted - 2014.11.27 02:52:00 - [11] - Quote Well, I guess no news is better than bad news that scatters our player base to the wind... Dust can be frustrating. (Gò»°Gûí°)Gò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+)
Immortal John Ripper 25824	Posted - 2014.11.27 03:11:00 - [12] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. I guess this means legion is not greenlit Delete Minmatar from the game.
General John Ripper 25826	Posted - 2014.11.27 03:11:00 - [13] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. I guess this means legion is not greenlit Delete Minmatar from the game.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5097	Posted - 2014.11.27 03:13:00 - [14] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. Oh look, it's world of darkness. It's my fault FA exists. Direct your rage to me.
Moochie Cricket Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 830	Posted - 2014.11.27 03:32:00 - [15] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. That is incredibly disappointing. No information on Legion? A game that has been in development for over a year and you have nothing you can show off? Especially considering much of the art assets and balancing numbers are already there via Dust. FOR THE STATE
BlazeXYZ G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 321	Posted - 2014.11.27 03:40:00 - [16] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. Well that's disappointing The Blazing Intellect Machine
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 15203	Posted - 2014.11.27 03:42:00 - [17] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. I pray this is just you guys tryingto surprise everyone, otherwise.... LMFAO #10yearplantrollololyolo Flight Academy coming soon(tm) to my YouTube Fly Safe
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 4826	Posted - 2014.11.27 03:57:00 - [18] - Quote I would highlight two things here: 1. Last Fanfest was a train wreck. (Personal opinion.) The Fanfest before it was a bunch of promises that never happened. (Definite fact.) I, for one, am glad we are not going for round three on this trend. 2. Generally, if you want to get a bunch of big reveals for Fanfest, you have to hold some information back for a bit to get a big announcement together. I, also for one, would rather CCP just tell us what's up. Something the CPM has been actively encouraging. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1301	Posted - 2014.11.27 04:02:00 - [19] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. Shocker. It's honestly difficult to continue to support CCP in this endeavor. I look at the current energy and excitement on the EVE side and look at what we have going on here... ridiculous. In all honestly, I would have expected CCP Rouge to have made an announcement of this nature based on how last FanFest went for the Dust / Legion community. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
Kain Spero Goonfeet 3865	Posted - 2014.11.27 04:11:00 - [20] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. Not really good news, but at least it's honest. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news

DaReaperPW Net 7 39	Posted - 2014.11.27 04:21:00 - [21] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: DaReaperPW wrote: The only real bad news you could get is if both dust and legion were shutting down. I don't think that's likely unless ccp decides to change directions again. You want bad news that isn't that? "Your Loyalty Level will transfer but not your SP." "You will have to completely start a new character." "Legion is not 'DUST on the PC' so we will forever keep these separate." (Basically, "sorry we switched sides; try again.") The only way that CCP can blow it out of the park is to say AND SHOW: "Project Legion is simply 'DUST 514 on the PC.' Oh, and PS4. waits for applause to die. They are the same game. Let me be clear by what I mean. We don't mean 'these games are the same like Call of Battle on PC and PS4'... they share the same server side. PC or PS4: you decide, play with your friends that are console or those that are PC and switch between the two." Or, even worse than bad news; no news. Another year of complete tone deafness that gives a starving community a cracker of information every few months. yes none of that is bad news. i have no issues starting over, or if nothing transfers, and sorry but legion will not go ps4. I also have no real issues with radio silence as long as they are working on something. it ha snot even been a year, the last bit of info was july. Ask when the last bit of info came out on valk? in may. as long as its progressing then meh. Will note i just saw the dev reply after posting this. I'm actually ok with that. As the cpm member said, last years announcement was a disaster. i;d rather something tangible or nothing at all. New ccp keeping quite on stuff not set then having loose lips and loads of disapointment
Isa Lucifer Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 107	Posted - 2014.11.27 04:26:00 - [22] - Quote Yep. Dam and I like the vision CCP had about unifying both games. So much potential thrown into the bin. Amarr Victor
DaReaperPW Net 7 40	Posted - 2014.11.27 04:30:00 - [23] - Quote Isa Lucifer wrote: Yep. Dam and I like the vision CCP had about unifying both games. So much potential thrown into the bin. what was thrown in the bins? They only said no presentation at fan fest this year. shrugs prolly means not greenlite/no release next year, so why shoot dust in the foot if legion is not close to being done.
Spartykins Militaires Sans Jeux 80	Posted - 2014.11.27 04:37:00 - [24] - Quote No worries, we'll get an announcement right after Valve tells us when Half-Life 3 is going to be released. (Insert witty phrase here)
Commander Noctus Gallente Loyalist 140	Posted - 2014.11.27 04:39:00 - [25] - Quote Brownie points to you Frame for telling us now. However, that REALLY puts everything else into question. Gallente User since Jan. 28th, 2013. Touched on every Gallente role since.
Finn Colman Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 70	Posted - 2014.11.27 05:34:00 - [26] - Quote Just seeing a blue tag on this makes me feel better, not good, but better. A shadow clad in duct tape, waiting for the moment to strike.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 6097	Posted - 2014.11.27 05:59:00 - [27] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. Not really good news, but at least it's honest. At least they told us befire hand. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Avinash Decker Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 154	Posted - 2014.11.27 06:01:00 - [28] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: I would highlight two things here: 1. Last Fanfest was a train wreck. (Personal opinion.) The Fanfest before it was a bunch of promises that never happened. (Definite fact.) I, for one, am glad we are not going for round three on this trend. 2. Generally, if you want to get a bunch of big reveals for Fanfest, you have to hold some information back for a bit to get a big announcement together. I, also for one, would rather CCP just tell us what's up. Something the CPM has been actively encouraging. When is that going to be?
Ghural WarRavens Capital Punishment. 341	Posted - 2014.11.27 06:01:00 - [29] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. Can you put this update somewhere more official, like maybe in a short Dev blog, so at least more people will know. Not everyone reads these forums. I think it's important to let people know that Legion is not dead, and what the direction is for Dust in the interim.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 6097	Posted - 2014.11.27 06:02:00 - [30] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: I would highlight two things here: 1. Last Fanfest was a train wreck. (Personal opinion.) The Fanfest before it was a bunch of promises that never happened. (Definite fact.) I, for one, am glad we are not going for round three on this trend. 2. Generally, if you want to get a bunch of big reveals for Fanfest, you have to hold some information back for a bit to get a big announcement together. I, also for one, would rather CCP just tell us what's up. Something the CPM has been actively encouraging. I'd at least like a small presentation telling is what to expect in the future. Nothing overtly specific but just setting the general tone for what is coming if anything is coming at all. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.

Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 4831	Posted - 2014.11.27 06:13:00 - [31] - Quote Avinash Decker wrote: When is that going to be? Working on getting as much out as possible. Every bit of news we get generally gets a response of "This is great, please tell the players about it." I think getting this information out to players now was a good thing. DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I'd at least like a small presentation telling is what to expect in the future. Nothing overtly specific but just setting the general tone for what is coming if anything is coming at all. Frame mentioned roundtables. Rouge and Rattati will be there. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Avinash Decker Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 154	Posted - 2014.11.27 06:18:00 - [32] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Avinash Decker wrote: When is that going to be? Working on getting as much out as possible. Every bit of news we get generally gets a response of "This is great, please tell the players about it." I think getting this information out to players now was a good thing. DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I'd at least like a small presentation telling is what to expect in the future. Nothing overtly specific but just setting the general tone for what is coming if anything is coming at all. Frame mentioned roundtables. Rouge and Rattati will be there. Why hadn't CCP released the information now though? Many players are upset about the seemingly lack of communication, would it be better served if they talk about some of stuff, not all, now or soon as in this year?
Kain Spero Goonfeet 3866	Posted - 2014.11.27 06:23:00 - [33] - Quote Except will these round tables be recorded and/or streamed? It would be a shame for Dust/Legion to be relegated to obscurity when it came to letting players hear in a more direct way from the Devs. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2236	Posted - 2014.11.27 07:04:00 - [34] - Quote Vaporware confirmed. Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 2074	Posted - 2014.11.27 07:13:00 - [35] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: Except will these round tables be recorded and/or streamed? It would be a shame for Dust/Legion to be relegated to obscurity when it came to letting players hear in a more direct way from the Devs. Because streaming a Q&A round table worked out really well in May? Lol But seriously now folks, it's good that this news is now out. The last Fanfest was a train wreck of pandering to the PC master race made worse by the frankly insane bollocks of promises made for Dust by Rouge's predecessor 12 months before that. As a Fanfest vet I can tell you that the far more interesting stuff gets spoken about in the Round Tables and the pubs. Not streamed for sure but at least there's no hype about what's said there. It's likely going to be Eve: Valkyrie's time in the sun at Fanfest I'm guessing so there's only so much time that can put to one side for all off CCPs products. Dust and Legion will be very much on the back burner in March but they'll still be Rouge, Rattati and I'm sure some others will make the trip. They'll be answering questions and I'm sure Rouge will be hijacking Eve TV at some point too. CPM 1 member CEO of DUST University Vist dustcpm.com
Ace Boone Capital Acquisitions LLC 462	Posted - 2014.11.27 07:45:00 - [36] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. Not really good news, but at least it's honest. WELL, WELL, WELL, WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN MR. SPERO? Only loyal to the republic.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5105	Posted - 2014.11.27 07:46:00 - [37] - Quote Moochie Cricket wrote: CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. That is incredibly disappointing. No information on Legion? A game that has been in development for over a year and you have nothing you can show off? Especially considering much of the art assets and balancing numbers are already there via Dust. Legion is vaporware. It is not coming out, and when Dust is done it's done. The only option they have for saving their studio is a PS4 port and eventual migration, but Rouge would rather not do it. Apparently he is under the impression that Legion and the engine its running on will somehow be relevant in 5 or 10 years or whatever it takes for them to theoretically get Legion out of the door. Hilmar does not have that kind of patience, and he is already soured to the way Dust turned out. This studio is going to be killed slowly. They will start peeling members out of Shanghai one at a time based on usefulness to work on EVE, and when the team has gotten so small that progress no longer happens the rest will finally be laid off. Ergo, Hello World of Darkness. I would very much like for everything I just said to be a false. It would make me happier than anything. It's my fault FA exists. Direct your rage to me.
Wilhelm Klingspor DUST University Ivy League 364	Posted - 2014.11.27 07:59:00 - [38] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. Right in the feels. But it's honest, people won't be buying a ticket for any Dust/Legion stuffs and be disappointed. Now excuse me while i ave a gud cry into my egg and bacon sandwich. GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ DON'T PANIC GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ
Ghural WarRavens Capital Punishment. 341	Posted - 2014.11.27 08:08:00 - [39] - Quote I think that the players deserve some sort of reassurance their continued investment in dust/legion will be worth the wait. Why spend money on dust when your investment could be completely wasted if both games end?
Jebus McKing Jebus Hates Scans 1091	Posted - 2014.11.27 08:16:00 - [40] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. So, I'm gonna assume then that Legion is not coming and that Dust is on life support until the AUR stops flowing. Feel free to prove me wrong. Legion is not a new game with a completely new player base. You already have a player base, paying customers. Greenlight the damn game or admit that it's not coming. But don't leave everyone guessing for months. If you can answer questions at fanfeat you can also answer them here. Assault / Logi / Scout / Sentinel // @JebusMcKing G£î

Ghural WarRavens Capital Punishment. 341	Posted - 2014.11.27 08:24:00 - [41] - Quote To be honest this is pretty typical behaviour for CCP. They show something awesome and then don't talk about it again.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 4833	Posted - 2014.11.27 08:39:00 - [42] - Quote Ghural wrote: I think that the players deserve some sort of reassurance their continued investment in dust/legion will be worth the wait. Why spend money on dust when your investment could be completely wasted if both games end? Soraya gives Ghural a reassuring pat on the head. Things are doing fine. Game is not dead yet. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Sergamon Draco Rautaleijona 538	Posted - 2014.11.27 08:42:00 - [43] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. If there is no annoucments, or any new info about dust 514 or legion development. Why ccp even bother to do keynote? Just publish keynote info on web,that way ccp can ignore us and just concentrate their adorable eve players. Fck the kdr,i`m going in
Aoena Rays Bragian Order Amarr Empire 546	Posted - 2014.11.27 09:21:00 - [44] - Quote DaReaperPW wrote: Isa Lucifer wrote: Yep. Dam and I like the vision CCP had about unifying both games. So much potential thrown into the bin. what was thrown in the bins? They only said no presentation at fan fest this year. shrugs prolly means not greenlite/no release next year, so why shoot dust in the foot if legion is not close to being done. No, people must rage hard because they said no major talk haha... this thread is getting funny. Story of your life
Aeon Amadi Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 7360	Posted - 2014.11.27 09:31:00 - [45] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. Imagine that. My only regret about not being able to go, now, is not being able to look at Rattati and Rouge in the eyes and tell them - in person - how severely they **** up. Every month we get some kind of new rhetoric about how there's a "plan in the works to better communicate/improve communication". At this point we all know it's just a bunch of PR non-sense. It's 100% BS. Sad part is that even when CCP Shanghai -KNOWS- it's no longer working they still adhere to this constant ploy of "we love dialogue/feedback" and "we're actively working on improving communication" despite having absolutely no proof of it at all. This is all the evidence this community needs to finally say, without a shadow of a doubt, that CCP Shanghai has absolutely no long term plan in play, they have nothing to offer their players, and what's left is literally just milking revenue to keep the studio alive. The fact that they have had nothing to say, still have nothing to say, and now confirm that they -WILL NOT- have anything to say is all the rhyme and reason we need to know that we are being bull-shitted. But what's even more ** off is the CPM is even looking at this with rose-shaded glasses. Ask them if they're optimistic about Legion and they deflect/ignore all questions besides that relating to Dust 514. So not only is CCP outright ignoring their community about all this, the CPM apparently isn't doing anything to question it. This coming from the guy who always trash talks CEOPyrex about his downing the CPM. And beyond that our new EP, who the -last- CPM regarded as a "savior" is a bold-faced liar: Quote: Again, Project Legion is still in an early stage of development but the whole idea behind giving a sneak peek at Fanfest is to get early feedback - and I really want to keep this discussion going, show you progress through dev blogs and such and listen to what you have to say. Please post your feedback and questions in this thread - and let's keep this conversation going. The team and I will be reading this thread, and I will respond as soon as I can. CCP Rouge We have not seen any devblogs about Legion, absolutely -NO- information for several months, and any sign of them "listening" went with those conversations. You -CANNOT- have a "conversation" when only one party is talking. If you sit on a phone for fifteen minutes waiting for the person to respond but they say nothing, you hang the **** up and move on. So my next question is this: Do they have nothing to show at Fanfest, or do they have nothing to show -PERIOD-? Why else would they just -not- talk about it, despite saying they don't want to repeat past mistakes? Long-Term Roadmap Nothing to show for Legion
Ghural WarRavens Capital Punishment. 341	Posted - 2014.11.27 10:03:00 - [46] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Ghural wrote: I think that the players deserve some sort of reassurance their continued investment in dust/legion will be worth the wait. Why spend money on dust when your investment could be completely wasted if both games end? Soraya gives Ghural a reassuring pat on the head. Things are doing fine. Game is not dead yet. Slips quietly into a world of darkness
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2237	Posted - 2014.11.27 10:09:00 - [47] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Soraya gives Ghural a reassuring pat on the head. Things are doing fine. Game is not dead yet. Which game? DUST? Which means Legion is dead or what? Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.
iKILLu osborne Titans of Phoenix 492	Posted - 2014.11.27 10:13:00 - [48] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. at least your not getting our hopes and dreams up like last fanfest just to crush them. thanks for being honest if you shoot me from the redline i will ensure your death will be a swift one
Spaceman-Rob Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 625	Posted - 2014.11.27 10:47:00 - [49] - Quote Don't worry CCP, 99% of the dust players who don't have a pc including myself couldn't give a rats arse about Legion.
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2238	Posted - 2014.11.27 10:51:00 - [50] - Quote Spaceman-Rob wrote: Don't worry CCP, 99% of the dust players who don't have a pc including myself couldn't give a rats arse about Legion. But what about that PS4 release years after the PC release (whenever that is)?!?! Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.

crazy space 1 K-A-O-S theory 2570	Posted - 2014.11.27 11:09:00 - [51] - Quote Bring back skirmish 1.0 ;_;
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 904	Posted - 2014.11.27 11:29:00 - [52] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. Don't rattati and rouge have better things to be doing than going on 'jollies'? Are they meant to be making a game or excuses?
ZDub 303 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 3305	Posted - 2014.11.27 12:20:00 - [53] - Quote Shanghai should really do something for Fanfest, even if its not at the formal event. Its a time where people who enjoy the New Eden IP get together and get excited about CCP products. A couple weeks after do a livestream event on twitch or something, show off some new assets and drum up some excitement for the game. Seriously, the only emotion I feel for Legion now is indifference, where 6 months ago I was ecstatic about it.
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 2076	Posted - 2014.11.27 12:43:00 - [54] - Quote Like I said before, this will be Valkyrie's Fanfest and there is only a finite amount of time over the three days. Besides, it'll keep marketing busy with the new game too. So silver lining and all that. CPM 1 member CEO of DUST University Vist dustcpm.com
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2591	Posted - 2014.11.27 12:49:00 - [55] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: Like I said before, this will be Valkyrie's Fanfest and there is only a finite amount of time over the three days. Besides, it'll keep marketing busy with the new game too. So silver lining and all that. Valkyrie, that mediocre game isn't going to sell. Do CCP really think that the headset gimmick is going to make them rich? I have seen better fighter space sims on PC 5 years ago. Hell current big titles / in development titles already blow it out of the water. CCP jumps from project to project..... great. No WoD, no Legion. Just some clunky headset fighter sim...... IF you know that CCP knows that Legion is dead in the water, I would hope you would urge them to tell us the truth. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2591	Posted - 2014.11.27 12:54:00 - [56] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. Imagine that. My only regret about not being able to go, now, is not being able to look at Rattati and Rouge in the eyes and tell them - in person - how severely they **** up. Every month we get some kind of new rhetoric about how there's a "plan in the works to better communicate/improve communication". At this point we all know it's just a bunch of PR non-sense. It's 100% BS. Sad part is that even when CCP Shanghai -KNOWS- it's no longer working they still adhere to this constant ploy of "we love dialogue/feedback" and "we're actively working on improving communication" despite having absolutely no proof of it at all. This is all the evidence this community needs to finally say, without a shadow of a doubt, that CCP Shanghai has absolutely no long term plan in play, they have nothing to offer their players, and what's left is literally just milking revenue to keep the studio alive. The fact that they have had nothing to say, still have nothing to say, and now confirm that they -WILL NOT- have anything to say is all the rhyme and reason we need to know that we are being bull-shitted. But what's even more ** off is the CPM is even looking at this with rose-shaded glasses. Ask them if they're optimistic about Legion and they deflect/ignore all questions besides that relating to Dust 514. So not only is CCP outright ignoring their community about all this, the CPM apparently isn't doing anything to question it. This coming from the guy who always trash talks CEOPyrex about his downing the CPM. And beyond that our new EP, who the -last- CPM regarded as a "savior" is a bold-faced liar: Quote: Again, Project Legion is still in an early stage of development but the whole idea behind giving a sneak peek at Fanfest is to get early feedback - and I really want to keep this discussion going, show you progress through dev blogs and such and listen to what you have to say. Please post your feedback and questions in this thread - and let's keep this conversation going. The team and I will be reading this thread, and I will respond as soon as I can. CCP Rouge We have not seen any devblogs about Legion, absolutely -NO- information for several months, and any sign of them "listening" went with those conversations. You -CANNOT- have a "conversation" when only one party is talking. If you sit on a phone for fifteen minutes waiting for the person to respond but they say nothing, you hang the ** up and move on. So my next question is this: Do they have nothing to show at Fanfest, or do they have nothing to show -PERIOD-? Why else would they just -not- talk about it, despite saying they don't want to repeat past mistakes? I don't always agree with you Aeon but in this instance I feel exactly the same way. Not only that I think CCP are digging their own grave by constantly 'jumping ship' as it were from project to project. If Valkyrie is there big new hype piece then I am totally disappointed. So much for Legion. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big fk-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Jack Boost Zarena Family 510	Posted - 2014.11.27 13:38:00 - [57] - Quote The truth.... only at 15 level of loyality you will be know for sure. THERE IS THE ONLY WAY. Fight for it.... or terminate clone now. Not much time left...
da GAND Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 1005	Posted - 2014.11.27 14:18:00 - [58] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. I regret giving CCP any of my money, it was only for an EVE subscription for a few months but still at least I didn't waste any of my money on any of the these things people are willing to buy for their Dust accounts. Should Legion be on the ps4?
Espeon Bons Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 315	Posted - 2014.11.27 14:18:00 - [59] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. If you dont have something nice to say, don't say nothing at all- Thumper(double negatives and everything) Redemption comes from changing who you are on the inside. Stain yourself with evil to defeat a greater evil.
Stevez Lau Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2014.11.27 14:29:00 - [60] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. Cool, keep us updated on the state of the Dust to Legion transfer though won't you? That's all most of us care about so our time in DUST can still mean something if Legion gets the green light :)

bolsh lee Ahrendee Mercenaries 1054	Posted - 2014.11.27 15:12:00 - [61] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. Serious question how does CCP expect to bring in additional revenue from players with Dust and Legion fans being left in the dark.. For example myself personally would at least go load up on passive boosters if I knew there was a future for either one... As it stands now I'm not spending a dime on uncertainty...
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1305	Posted - 2014.11.27 16:11:00 - [62] - Quote I honestly do hope that CCP will one day figure out that engaging us in a transparent and direct manner will work out better for them than ill-considered statements and misinformation or total silence. Let me link a couple of BAMM's vids here. http://youtu.be/ylBx5Ao1L80?list=UUSbWEaDqT1Y3N3caikmDggg http://youtu.be/R9N1LMKFILE?list=UUSbWEaDqT1Y3N3caikmDggg For the record, I think BAMM is at a minimum asking pertinent and incisive questions; you may not like how he does it some times or vehemently disagree but he is only working with the information and speculative ideas that are out there. I certainly don't know the ins and outs of CCP and it's difficult to judge these types of things. I don't know how accurate or inaccurate BAMMs predictions are, however, they are at least as valid as many of the other folks putting ideas up and often with less effort and homework than he's put in. Do I think BAMM is right about CCP and the future...I don't know. I hope not and after chatting with BAMM I think he hope's his take on the possible future with CCP is wrong as well. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
Bat Shard0 Stardust Incorporation 65	Posted - 2014.11.27 18:17:00 - [63] - Quote Vladislav, tell the french guy, that most of us like its ideas announced on last Fanfest and the only thing I expect is to announce (like EVE Online) a road map for what is comming with concrete dates. Videos, pics, dev blogs are also expected, but a road map with concrete dates is first. If concrete days is hard, something like "autumn of 2015" can be used http://dust514news.blogspot.com/
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 591	Posted - 2014.11.27 18:31:00 - [64] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: Bring back skirmish 1.0 ;_; Yes. This. There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 4840	Posted - 2014.11.27 18:34:00 - [65] - Quote Bat Shard0 wrote: If concrete days is hard, something like "autumn of 2015" can be used Concrete anything is hard in the real world. When I see a sign that says construction will be on a road from May through October, I'm fully aware that road is going to be torn up for at least the next three years. A lot of people still act like the year before last's Fanfest was full of "promises". Like fighters, MTACs, and MAVs. But they weren't promises, they were a showcase of concepts. Some had dates on them, and that turned out to be a really really bad idea. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
DaReaperPW Net 7 40	Posted - 2014.11.27 19:03:00 - [66] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Moochie Cricket wrote: CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. That is incredibly disappointing. No information on Legion? A game that has been in development for over a year and you have nothing you can show off? Especially considering much of the art assets and balancing numbers are already there via Dust. Legion is vaporware. It is not coming out, and when Dust is done it's done. Why do you say this? because a game that has not been in devlopment a yera yet and you got info 3 months ago has gone quite on the news side? You know they are working on it, i would not call it vaporwear just yet, maybe next year, but not after only a few months of devlopment Quote: The only option they have for saving their studio is a PS4 port and eventual migration, but Rouge would rather not do it. Apparently he is under the impression that Legion and the engine its running on will somehow be relevant in 5 or 10 years or whatever it takes for them to theoretically get Legion out of the door. Uh what? EVE makes there money atm, with some from Dust. Going to ps4 won;t 'save there stuido' making smart choices will. And not hyping something that is not ready yet will. Id rather they stay quite then pull a chris roberts who will have to gut huge chunks of his game at the final release. At least you can;t be pissed if something promised did not show up. Quote: Hilmar does not have that kind of patience, and he is already soured to the way Dust turned out. This studio is going to be killed slowly. They will start peeling members out of Shanghai one at a time based on usefulness to work on EVE, and when the team has gotten so small that progress no longer happens the rest will finally be laid off. Ergo, Hello World of Darkness. I would very much like for everything I just said to be a false. It would make me happier than anything. You honestly dunno what you are talking about. And thats alright. WoD suffered because there cash cow suffered. Then it made no sense when they decided to focus on just the New Eden ip to keep WoD. It would save more money and resources in the long run. Dust is out and making money, and getting some updates. I doubt shanghi has to worry. And as i said before it has not even been a year. It takes time to make a game, patience. And again, i;d rather silence then borken promises that pisses off the player base even more.
DaReaperPW Net 7 40	Posted - 2014.11.27 19:06:00 - [67] - Quote Ghural wrote: To be honest this is pretty typical behaviour for CCP. They show something awesome and then don't talk about it again. except i think this is why they are quite. They don;t talk about valk either. Because again, why break promises on something you may not be able to add to the game. CCP messed up at fanfest in 2014, because the base of dust flipped the ****** out, and rightly so, so now they are just gonna keep quite till they have something official is my guess,
DaReaperPW Net 7 40	Posted - 2014.11.27 19:08:00 - [68] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Kevall Longstride wrote: Like I said before, this will be Valkyrie's Fanfest and there is only a finite amount of time over the three days. Besides, it'll keep marketing busy with the new game too. So silver lining and all that. Valkyrie, that mediocre game isn't going to sell. Do CCP really think that the headset gimmick is going to make them rich? I have seen better fighter space sims on PC 5 years ago. Hell current big titles / in development titles already blow it out of the water. CCP jumps from project to project..... great. No WoD, no Legion. Just some clunky headset fighter sim...... IF you know that CCP knows that Legion is dead in the water, I would hope you would urge them to tell us the truth. I take it you never tried valk... it will make money, with no problems
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2243	Posted - 2014.11.27 19:09:00 - [69] - Quote DaReaperPW wrote: Why do you say this? because a game that has not been in devlopment a yera yet and you got info 3 months ago has gone quite on the news side? You know they are working on it, i would not call it vaporwear just yet, maybe next year, but not after only a few months of devlopment Legion development started october last year. Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 5160	Posted - 2014.11.27 19:37:00 - [70] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. In other words, if CCP Rouge tells Marketting that there will be no major announcements at Fan Fest... ...Marketing will have no reason to tell CCP Rouge to keep his mouth shut in the mean time. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.

Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 5161	Posted - 2014.11.27 19:42:00 - [71] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: Except will these round tables be recorded and/or streamed? It would be a shame for Dust/Legion to be relegated to obscurity when it came to letting players hear in a more direct way from the Devs. We can't count on Streaming. We need spies with video cameras and YouTub channels. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 592	Posted - 2014.11.27 23:51:00 - [72] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Kain Spero wrote: Except will these round tables be recorded and/or streamed? It would be a shame for Dust/Legion to be relegated to obscurity when it came to letting players hear in a more direct way from the Devs. We can't count on Streaming. We need spies with video cameras and YouTub channels. I support Legion leaks. It is the will of the people. There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
Avinash Decker Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 154	Posted - 2014.11.28 00:37:00 - [73] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: DaReaperPW wrote: Why do you say this? because a game that has not been in devlopment a yera yet and you got info 3 months ago has gone quite on the news side? You know they are working on it, i would not call it vaporwear just yet, maybe next year, but not after only a few months of devlopment Legion development started october last year. Source? But if true, lol Dust was planning on getting replaced after the game has been officially out for about 5 months.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2351	Posted - 2014.11.28 03:37:00 - [74] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. As disheartening as that is, it is also much appreciated . Thanks for the heads up. Now to recalibrate the 'ol dreams and expectations.....this part always hurts. PSN: RationalSpark
Sergamon Draco Rautaleijona 542	Posted - 2014.11.28 10:33:00 - [75] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. Thanks ccp that you show ,so much love to dust community. And also im very sorry,that i bought ps1 in the days and have been ps gamer from that day. So thanx for meaningles jiiba jaaba in fanfest, and show again how much you really appriciate ps community. Also i have to say thnx for sticking with ps with so litlle playerbase,i have read somewhere in dark age of EVE online there was playerbase of few hundred people. But we have only 300k people PB,and this is ccp`s pb numbers,luckily ccp launch valkyrie to ps4 so i can play that but last i have to say those pc masterrace guys are so lucky,bcause they will get legion,which is so epic and monumental game that they cannot devolop it in ps4,but luckily it is easyer develop virtual reality game like valkyrie to ps4. Thanx ccp and have a great fanfest and thanx for this great game Fck the kdr,i`m going in
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5123	Posted - 2014.11.28 13:12:00 - [76] - Quote DaReaperPW wrote: You honestly dunno what you are talking about. And thats alright. WoD suffered because there cash cow suffered. Then it made no sense when they decided to focus on just the New Eden ip to keep WoD. It would save more money and resources in the long run. Dust is out and making money, and getting some updates. I doubt shanghi has to worry. And as i said before it has not even been a year. It takes time to make a game, patience. And again, i;d rather silence then borken promises that pisses off the player base even more. No, YOU don't know what you're talking about. You have absolutely no clue as to the history or inner workings of CCP. I am intimately familiar with both. I have had many friends in and out of the CSM and CPM over the years and know many ex-employees from CCP itself. I know exactly how their middle management is completely disconnected from reality, how employees get shifted from between teams on a regular basis due to extreme levels of incompetence which stalls any progress from happening, and how top management is more than a little influenced towards trend chasing and hasn't been able to follow anything through since EVE's original inception 10 years ago. Legion IS vaporware. Everyone on the inside knows it, and everyone with a brain on the outside knows it. Some people on the inside are in denial, and struggling like hell to make enough progress so that they don't get shut down. Rattati is pretty much the only thing keeping their lights on right now, and he won't be able to do that for the length of time it's going to take Legion to happen because the numbers for Dust ARE falling bit by bit. If it takes you 10 more years to figure out this project is doomed, I feel genuinely sorry for you. But you are the one in the dark, not me. It's my fault FA exists. Direct your rage to me.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 5178	Posted - 2014.11.28 13:50:00 - [77] - Quote Avinash Decker wrote: Bendtner92 wrote: DaReaperPW wrote: Why do you say this? because a game that has not been in devlopment a yera yet and you got info 3 months ago has gone quite on the news side? You know they are working on it, i would not call it vaporwear just yet, maybe next year, but not after only a few months of devlopment Legion development started october last year. Source? But if true, lol Dust was planning on getting replaced after the game has been officially out for about 5 months. Well it was around December/January when CPM0 started getting very pessimistic and saying that CPM1's term was going to be a lot worse than their term, and that CPM1 would be hated by the community regardless of what they did. This of course was back when they expected to have the CPM1 election before FanFest. I think one of the CPM0 actually quite. They knew that DUST development would be stopped after 1.8 and that most of the Devs had already shifted to working on Project Legion, but they could not tell anyone due to NDA. Incidental, CPM1 is bound by the same NDA, but have you noticed that CPM1 are all really cheerful recently? It is quite a contrast from the way CPM0 was acting last year. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
DaReaperPW Net 7 40	Posted - 2014.11.28 16:27:00 - [78] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: DaReaperPW wrote: You honestly dunno what you are talking about. And thats alright. WoD suffered because there cash cow suffered. Then it made no sense when they decided to focus on just the New Eden ip to keep WoD. It would save more money and resources in the long run. Dust is out and making money, and getting some updates. I doubt shanghi has to worry. And as i said before it has not even been a year. It takes time to make a game, patience. And again, i;d rather silence then borken promises that pisses off the player base even more. No, YOU don't know what you're talking about. You have absolutely no clue as to the history or inner workings of CCP. I am intimately familiar with both. I have had many friends in and out of the CSM and CPM over the years and know many ex-employees from CCP itself. I know exactly how their middle management is completely disconnected from reality, how employees get shifted from between teams on a regular basis due to extreme levels of incompetence which stalls any progress from happening, and how top management is more than a little influenced towards trend chasing and hasn't been able to follow anything through since EVE's original inception 10 years ago. Legion IS vaporware. Everyone on the inside knows it, and everyone with a brain on the outside knows it. Some people on the inside are in denial, and struggling like hell to make enough progress so that they don't get shut down. Rattati is pretty much the only thing keeping their lights on right now, and he won't be able to do that for the length of time it's going to take Legion to happen because the numbers for Dust ARE falling bit by bit. If it takes you 10 more years to figure out this project is doomed, I feel genuinely sorry for you. But you are the one in the dark, not me. I want the EVE FPS brand to succeed. Legion is not going to be a simple port of Dust -- It is a completely different game with a completely different premise. It is going to have an extremely long development cycle because that's the pace CCP operates at. Let alone with a staff that was almost entirely neutered. A PS4 upgrade of Dust is the only way the numbers are going to go back up within an operational timeframe that will not result in the studio shutting down. And frankly it's the only thing the team can manage with their current size. There are literally no other options. Hilmar isn't going to keep feeding CCP Shanghai the revenue from EVE. That simply isn't how it works. Rouge gets to decide now whether he sets his team on the path to unemployment with Legion, or gets his house in order and kicks Dust into full gear on PS4. The door is closing, but it's not closed yet. I'll agree to disagree, as i can't argue your supposed knowledge or 'credentials' so we will see.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 4854	Posted - 2014.11.28 16:45:00 - [79] - Quote DaReaperPW wrote: I'll agree to disagree, as i can't argue your supposed knowledge or 'credentials' so we will see. People who claim to have insider knowledge unofficially are pretty regularly proven wrong. Either this means they make a lot of stuff up, or they're not the people who actually are in the know at CCP. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
DaReaperPW Net 7 40	Posted - 2014.11.28 23:02:00 - [80] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: DaReaperPW wrote: I'll agree to disagree, as i can't argue your supposed knowledge or 'credentials' so we will see. People who claim to have insider knowledge unofficially are pretty regularly proven wrong. Either this means they make a lot of stuff up, or they're not the people who actually are in the know at CCP. Yea, it just makes it hard to argue, as i have no way to prove the knowledge he claims is true unless ofc i run for cpm/csm or work for ccp. shrugs

Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5133	Posted - 2014.11.29 00:10:00 - [81] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: DaReaperPW wrote: I'll agree to disagree, as i can't argue your supposed knowledge or 'credentials' so we will see. People who claim to have insider knowledge unofficially are pretty regularly proven wrong. Either this means they make a lot of stuff up, or they're not the people who actually are in the know at CCP. You're not going to argue with me because 1. It will put your position at risk. 2. You know I'm right. So stop putting on the defensive act for CCP. If you had any real loyalty to CCP you should be focused on convincing Rouge to save his team. It's my fault FA exists. Direct your rage to me.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 5159	Posted - 2014.11.29 00:55:00 - [82] - Quote ITT Himiko says they don't want to get in trouble then calls someone by a petty, negative nickname. My advice to you, playa...
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5133	Posted - 2014.11.29 02:32:00 - [83] - Quote I don't really care if I get in trouble. I've been banned twice already for putting morons in their place. But I'm not going to throw former employees under the bus. It's up to them to speak out, and they quite often do.. CCP Shanghai members know their own situation, and so does Wormtongue. Whether or not he wants to work to keep CCP Shanghai in business is up to him. It's my fault FA exists. Direct your rage to me.
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 601	Posted - 2014.11.29 04:15:00 - [84] - Quote I know there is a game because I've been a part of the beta for the last couple of years. Porting it to PC or PS4 and calling it Legion would make Legion something different from vaporware. There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
DaReaperPW Net 7 40	Posted - 2014.11.29 04:38:00 - [85] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I don't really care if I get in trouble. I've been banned twice already for putting morons in their place. But I'm not going to throw former employees under the bus. It's up to them to speak out, and they quite often do.. CCP Shanghai members know their own situation, and so does Wormtongue. Whether or not he wants to work to keep CCP Shanghai in business is up to him. as i said, agree to disagree. i have now way of proving anything you say is true or false, so shrugs
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5136	Posted - 2014.11.29 05:21:00 - [86] - Quote On the contrary, there is a mountain of evidence to show I'm right. Ten years of feature abandonment, bad executive decisions and schizophrenic project management. Learn from those who came before you. http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/CCP-Reviews-E159347.htm If you want true testimonials, there are plenty of former employees and CSM members with loose lips. Selene was both, and that's pretty much never been a secret. It's my fault FA exists. Direct your rage to me.
Mobius Wyvern Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 5457	Posted - 2014.11.29 16:48:00 - [87] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Ghural wrote: I think that the players deserve some sort of reassurance their continued investment in dust/legion will be worth the wait. Why spend money on dust when your investment could be completely wasted if both games end? Soraya gives Ghural a reassuring pat on the head. Things are doing fine. Game is not dead yet. And how likely is that to remain the case when we're basically on "the midnight training going anywhere" at this point? We have no idea about anything that is going to happen in this game until just about right before it happens, and now we here that a convention that has always presented ALL of CCP's games in the past will now be completely absent of what was previously one of their flagship projects. I completely empathize with anyone who's thinking about jumping ship at this point. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
IMPAIRS YOUR ABILITY Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 331	Posted - 2014.11.29 17:55:00 - [88] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. Excellent *RED LIGHT*
Mobius Wyvern Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 5459	Posted - 2014.11.29 18:24:00 - [89] - Quote IMPAIRS YOUR ABILITY wrote: CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. Excellent Your signature is excellent. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
CrotchGrab 360 Yon Hyaku Nijuu Moyase 1553	Posted - 2014.11.29 22:16:00 - [90] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. DEAD.IN.THE.WATER. DUST VIDEOS

CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2601	Posted - 2014.11.29 23:22:00 - [91] - Quote DaReaperPW wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: Kevall Longstride wrote: Like I said before, this will be Valkyrie's Fanfest and there is only a finite amount of time over the three days. Besides, it'll keep marketing busy with the new game too. So silver lining and all that. Valkyrie, that mediocre game isn't going to sell. Do CCP really think that the headset gimmick is going to make them rich? I have seen better fighter space sims on PC 5 years ago. Hell current big titles / in development titles already blow it out of the water. CCP jumps from project to project..... great. No WoD, no Legion. Just some clunky headset fighter sim...... IF you know that CCP knows that Legion is dead in the water, I would hope you would urge them to tell us the truth. I take it you never tried valk... it will make money, with no problems I would be sceptical about that. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Isa Lucifer Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 109	Posted - 2014.11.30 13:37:00 - [92] - Quote Thank you CPM for responding to this thread and to our little pessimist side. Everybody has one. Thank you. Amarr Victor
Evolution-7 The Rainbow Effect 676	Posted - 2014.11.30 14:17:00 - [93] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Bat Shard0 wrote: If concrete days is hard, something like "autumn of 2015" can be used Concrete anything is hard in the real world. When I see a sign that says construction will be on a road from May through October, I'm fully aware that road is going to be torn up for at least the next three years. A lot of people still act like the year before last's Fanfest was full of "promises". Like fighters, MTACs, and MAVs. But they weren't promises, they were a showcase of concepts. Some had dates on them, and that turned out to be a really really bad idea. An incompetent game company and real life engineering deadlines are two massively different things. Where the **** have you been educated.. seriously?! Replication to Uprising 1.4. Good times. PSN: AdmiralEvo
Evolution-7 The Rainbow Effect 676	Posted - 2014.11.30 14:18:00 - [94] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: Like I said before, this will be Valkyrie's Fanfest and there is only a finite amount of time over the three days. Besides, it'll keep marketing busy with the new game too. So silver lining and all that. Just valkyries fanfest? you think that is a reasonable answer to not have a fanfest for all three? Another **** head. Replication to Uprising 1.4. Good times. PSN: AdmiralEvo
Evolution-7 The Rainbow Effect 676	Posted - 2014.11.30 14:20:00 - [95] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: Kain Spero wrote: Except will these round tables be recorded and/or streamed? It would be a shame for Dust/Legion to be relegated to obscurity when it came to letting players hear in a more direct way from the Devs. Because streaming a Q&A round table worked out really well in May? Lol But seriously now folks, it's good that this news is now out. The last Fanfest was a train wreck of pandering to the PC master race made worse by the frankly insane bollocks of promises made for Dust by Rouge's predecessor 12 months before that. As a Fanfest vet I can tell you that the far more interesting stuff gets spoken about in the Round Tables and the pubs. Not streamed for sure but at least there's no hype about what's said there. It's likely going to be Eve: Valkyrie's time in the sun at Fanfest I'm guessing so there's only so much time that can put to one side for all off CCPs products. Dust and Legion will be very much on the back burner in March but they'll still be Rouge, Rattati and I'm sure some others will make the trip. They'll be answering questions and I'm sure Rouge will be hijacking Eve TV at some point too. Elite dangerous and star citizen have already ****** over legion and valkyrie thats why!!! Replication to Uprising 1.4. Good times. PSN: AdmiralEvo
Evolution-7 The Rainbow Effect 676	Posted - 2014.11.30 14:24:00 - [96] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: I would highlight two things here: 1. Last Fanfest was a train wreck. (Personal opinion.) The Fanfest before it was a bunch of promises that never happened. (Definite fact.) I, for one, am glad we are not going for round three on this trend. 2. Generally, if you want to get a bunch of big reveals for Fanfest, you have to hold some information back for a bit to get a big announcement together. I, also for one, would rather CCP just tell us what's up. Something the CPM has been actively encouraging. You have no ***** life, suck the anus of a company who doesn't pay you. Dust died when Laurino was removed and we have been fed lies every since day one of rouges enrollment. This announcement by Frame gives absolutely all of a reason to give a ** about legion/dust/eve and CCP in general. Lest we not forget, it is by your own actions (CCP) that this has come upon you, gaming trends change annual even monthly and sitting on a cash cow with little market growth is going to bite you in the ass for not changing. Replication to Uprising 1.4. Good times. PSN: AdmiralEvo
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 2088	Posted - 2014.11.30 14:56:00 - [97] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: DaReaperPW wrote: I'll agree to disagree, as i can't argue your supposed knowledge or 'credentials' so we will see. People who claim to have insider knowledge unofficially are pretty regularly proven wrong. Either this means they make a lot of stuff up, or they're not the people who actually are in the know at CCP. Pretty much this. I'm not going to disparage or dismiss the opinions that others have about this particular subject. People has differing points of view based on their own perceptions. These, they are perfectly entitled to. That being said when it comes the claiming of sources in CCP, I can honestly say that in my time so far in the CPM, no one making claim to x happening before y is in place or z will happen next week, has been even close. None of them knew or predicted 1.9, expressing even more surprise than most. With sources as sharp as theirs you'd expect them to have known something that big. Surely......? CPM 1 member CEO of DUST University Vist dustcpm.com
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. 2514	Posted - 2014.11.30 16:25:00 - [98] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. You guys can't be serious? What incentive is there for a DUST player to buy fanfest tickets if you guys are just gonna be there to chat with. You couldn't of all been sitting around chatting at the office and some random green developer asks "What are we doing this year for fanfest?" And the offices response was... "Frack it" "We have to be there to answer some questions, but otherwise frack it" We never needed something that is gonna become a reality in the next year... And we don;t need you guys to promise that bullshit either. We would like to see what the Future of this IP is going to look like. We would like to see cutting edge concepts advancing this IP to come out... How about Boarding a titan? And fighting for ownership? How about CCP Rouge actually follow up with what he said last time... And offer a community wide event that extends from EVE to DUST like the fight for Caldari and Gallente Scenario. One thing is for sure... Doing nothing is not the answer... Build some hype around your product for your own damn sake... For your own future at CCP and the future of the company... Because all the noise in the industry is slowly drowning CCP out.
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2254	Posted - 2014.11.30 17:56:00 - [99] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: With sources as sharp as theirs you'd expect them to have known something that big. Surely......? We have different understandings of what big things for DUST is (which is completely fine). Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2254	Posted - 2014.11.30 18:04:00 - [100] - Quote Bethhy wrote: One thing is for sure... Doing nothing is not the answer... Build some hype around your product for your own damn sake... For your own future at CCP and the future of the company... Because all the noise in the industry is slowly drowning CCP out. Fully agreed, and building hype doesn't necessarily mean making promises you can't keep. Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.

lateriss ObscuriLateris 15	Posted - 2014.11.30 18:38:00 - [101] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. Thank you for answering our question on this. It would be nice to know if Legion is vaporware or not. As an Eve pilot I can see how Dust514 is one of the most immersive FPS in terms of builds. I am glad CCP Games took a risk on the PS3 but ecstatic for a possible PC release. I have my fingers crossed for a PC release. It would be frakking amazing. No offense, but we can't wait in silence like we did with WoD. That would be really lame. Maybe next year in the spring? And I Agree with Mr. Soraya Xel-
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 17890	Posted - 2014.11.30 19:00:00 - [102] - Quote Not one insider source has said the one magic word that would indicate they're on the inside. NOT ONCE. and nearly 100% of their predictions are wrong; and while I was never an insider before the war council I would say I would been the only person to guess closely as I did and I was still wrong by a ways off. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
lateriss ObscuriLateris 15	Posted - 2014.11.30 19:44:00 - [103] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Not one insider source has said the one magic word that would indicate they're on the inside. NOT ONCE. and nearly 100% of their predictions are wrong; and while I was never an insider before the war council I would say I would been the only person to guess closely as I did and I was still wrong by a ways off. So it is not vaporware= AWESOME!!! O/
DaReaperPW Net 7 40	Posted - 2014.12.01 01:45:00 - [104] - Quote I'll also note. Because nothing is planned right now doesn't mean you won;t have a small blip of an announcement. My guess is that it will be a big fanfest for valk and eve. Dust and legion will be ont he back burner. But as i mentioned in another thread, ccp could change there minds or have Rouge get on stage during ccp presents and make a small announcement, or not. For eveyone whining about 'we need news even if it not true' you must all be new to ccp's world. There are people who still ***** about no planitary flight. Even though it was a simple concept and not something that was coming. I prefer them to not say anything, work on legion or IF legion is doa (which i doubt) work on dust and not shoot themslves further in the foot by saying something stupid. Fan fest last year was a huge misstep and pr nightmare. They dragged dust to the center and shot it in the head, when they really did not mean to. So better to stay quite till something is set in stone then get the fans riilled up.
ReGnYuM Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 3337	Posted - 2014.12.01 03:48:00 - [105] - Quote HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... CPM is hardly in the loop either LMFAO. The original CPM0 learned of Project Legion's (Dust's Demise) not from CCP, but from the CSM! That's right the Dust514 development team did not even have the Balls to tell their hand picked community reps about Legion
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 4875	Posted - 2014.12.01 04:13:00 - [106] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... CPM is hardly in the loop either LMFAO. The original CPM0 learned of Project Legion's (Dust's Demise) not from CCP, but from the CSM! That's right the Dust514 development team did not even have the Balls to tell their hand picked community reps about Legion This is like... a really long time ago. Basically ancient history. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 17900	Posted - 2014.12.01 06:30:00 - [107] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... CPM is hardly in the loop either LMFAO. The original CPM0 learned of Project Legion's (Dust's Demise) not from CCP, but from the CSM! That's right the Dust514 development team did not even have the Balls to tell their hand picked community reps about Legion This is like... a really long time ago. Basically ancient history. And that we know exactly how the CSM learned about it first and how CCP is basically 24 hours around the world. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 999	Posted - 2014.12.01 06:52:00 - [108] - Quote I am quite honestly surprised this thread still exists. That it hasnt been deleted to save face. I need to go fly a titan into a trap or something, the sterotypical cold shower did nothing. DUST will end exactly when CCP wants it to. Which seems to be Fanfest 2015
GLOBAL fils'de RAGE Consolidated Dust 60	Posted - 2014.12.01 11:16:00 - [109] - Quote It takes alot to build a company and make payroll-so with the last 6 years of a world wide economic funk, and Hellmar kept the doors open so give credit where credit is due. I looked at CCP's job openings for clues, and i noticed two positions to be filled this year, hard dates. So the hiring manager still had budget for those new hires, hiring dates sliding is a bad sign and this is not the case. They just moved Ratatti with his family, as well as others-thats not cheap. I'm not sure about Rogue, but if he's really french the "fresh bagettes" clause in his job offer wasn't cheap either. I looked at the Technology write off and it was probably Carbon development, so technically was Dust related, but not DUST514. Hellmar never struck me as a shooter, so it must be hard for him after being burned by this game, but his dream is still evidently alive. He is now looking at a number of paths to walk down, and is taking his time-he is going to follow the money, because it pays the bills. If you need to lift your spirits, or hope renewed, watch the EVE prophesy trailed-Gallente? I love DUST514, and I complain about latency every chance i get, because fixing it would make DUST 99.9% better. CCP fix your latency.
2Berries Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 422	Posted - 2014.12.01 16:37:00 - [110] - Quote I was half expectingat fanfest a montage reel of Squad B playing Destiny. So no news is good news, i guess. Have you considered a career in costumed aggression?

Mobius Wyvern Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 5464	Posted - 2014.12.01 18:37:00 - [111] - Quote I guess we can be impressed that they're sticking to their guns by leaving this thread open. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Ghural WarRavens Capital Punishment. 353	Posted - 2014.12.01 22:59:00 - [112] - Quote In my opinion the lack of news indicates that the vision of Dust is still in flux, personally I wouldn't be surprised if in another year an announcement is made that Legion is going to be incorporated directly into EVE, like Star Citizen. Of course CCP could just be watching to see what their competitors are up to.
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 1002	Posted - 2014.12.01 23:52:00 - [113] - Quote Ghural wrote: In my opinion the lack of news indicates that the vision of Dust is still in flux, personally I wouldn't be surprised if in another year an announcement is made that Legion is going to be incorporated directly into EVE, like Star Citizen. Of course CCP could just be watching to see what their competitors are up to. tail end of fanfest 2014 EVE: Unity yes theyre trying to merge all three games to stem the wave of stur cirturzen DUST will end exactly when CCP wants it to. Which seems to be Fanfest 2015
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 5243	Posted - 2014.12.02 19:06:00 - [114] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. Translation: By the time Fan Fest rolls around you will already know everything and there will be nothing new to announce. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
da GAND Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 1016	Posted - 2014.12.02 19:23:00 - [115] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. Translation: By the time Fan Fest rolls around you will already know everything and there will be nothing new to announce. In case you have not noticed it yet: DUST 514 Roadmap! I expect we will get some sort of update on Legion before Fanfest as well. I hope so.. for your sake Fox Gaden... Jk but really I think you might be right about that Should Legion be on the ps4?
Operative 1174 Uuali The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 154	Posted - 2014.12.03 08:38:00 - [116] - Quote Hopefully, CCP has learned not to say anything until they actually have something real to present rather than talk big, show a slick trailer about what they'd like to do and then eat their words. I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
Mad Syringe ReDust Inc. 369	Posted - 2014.12.03 11:57:00 - [117] - Quote I hope this means, that CCP realized, that forcing their Dust playerbase to the PC, may be counter productive, since they might as well go to Star Citizen instead... That's at least my thought. I was about to upgrade my rig, to play SC, but since all those changes, the urge is not that big anymore, I may give Dust some more month and see what happens. If I however move to SC, I doubt I'll come back anytime soon, since that game seems to have so much to play with it might take a while to grab it all... Dedicated Minmando Masshole with love for Swarmholing... Not playing logi that much anymore... which is a shame...
DaReaperPW Net 7 40	Posted - 2014.12.03 16:38:00 - [118] - Quote Mad Syringe wrote: I hope this means, that CCP realized, that forcing their Dust playerbase to the PC, may be counter productive, since they might as well go to Star Citizen instead... That's at least my thought. I was about to upgrade my rig, to play SC, but since all those changes, the urge is not that big anymore, I may give Dust some more month and see what happens. If I however move to SC, I doubt I'll come back anytime soon, since that game seems to have so much to play with it might take a while to grab it all... 1) No its not counter productive. TBH its prolly easier on them to manage an FPS from a pc then to have to deal with sony. 2) Please, if concole players are bitching about havign to switch to pc for dust do you HONESTLY think they will play that monstrosity of vaporware if it ever comes out? 3) SC at this point is nothing but hype. With CR at the helm it will take forever to be made or have to be gutted like a fish with 90% of it stripped out to even be offical. He should stop adding new crap, get the core game out and then add stuff. But hes not. Anyway, SC is a non issue vs legion. You can easily play new eden and SC at the same time. So its really nothing. And i'm 90% sure SC will be a huge flop. But we will see. On another note The new Dust roadmap shows nothing of legion but what looks like some good improvements to dust. So things are being done, just which direction is the issue. I wish ccp would just announce a greenlight already then some speculation can die.
da GAND Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 1022	Posted - 2014.12.03 17:03:00 - [119] - Quote DaReaperPW wrote: Mad Syringe wrote: I hope this means, that CCP realized, that forcing their Dust playerbase to the PC, may be counter productive, since they might as well go to Star Citizen instead... That's at least my thought. I was about to upgrade my rig, to play SC, but since all those changes, the urge is not that big anymore, I may give Dust some more month and see what happens. If I however move to SC, I doubt I'll come back anytime soon, since that game seems to have so much to play with it might take a while to grab it all... 1) No its not counter productive. TBH its prolly easier on them to manage an FPS from a pc then to have to deal with sony. 2) Please, if concole players are bitching about havign to switch to pc for dust do you HONESTLY think they will play that monstrosity of vaporware if it ever comes out? 3) SC at this point is nothing but hype. With CR at the helm it will take forever to be made or have to be gutted like a fish with 90% of it stripped out to even be offical. He should stop adding new crap, get the core game out and then add stuff. But hes not. Anyway, SC is a non issue vs legion. You can easily play new eden and SC at the same time. So its really nothing. And i'm 90% sure SC will be a huge flop. But we will see. On another note The new Dust roadmap shows nothing of legion but what looks like some good improvements to dust. So things are being done, just which direction is the issue. I wish ccp would just announce a greenlight already then some speculation can die. Agreed it's probably easier for CCP to manage their own game without having to go through Sony. Star Citizen does have hype up for it but not as much as Titanfall and Destiny did , at least from what I've seen since I don't pay that much attention to it. But I wasn't paying much attention to Destiny and Titanfall but saw plenty of it.( mostly commercials). We've seen more of Star Citizen than we have of Legion though. Should Legion be on the ps4?
DaReaperPW Net 7 42	Posted - 2014.12.03 23:37:00 - [120] - Quote da GAND wrote: DaReaperPW wrote: Mad Syringe wrote: I hope this means, that CCP realized, that forcing their Dust playerbase to the PC, may be counter productive, since they might as well go to Star Citizen instead... That's at least my thought. I was about to upgrade my rig, to play SC, but since all those changes, the urge is not that big anymore, I may give Dust some more month and see what happens. If I however move to SC, I doubt I'll come back anytime soon, since that game seems to have so much to play with it might take a while to grab it all... 1) No its not counter productive. TBH its prolly easier on them to manage an FPS from a pc then to have to deal with sony. 2) Please, if concole players are bitching about havign to switch to pc for dust do you HONESTLY think they will play that monstrosity of vaporware if it ever comes out? 3) SC at this point is nothing but hype. With CR at the helm it will take forever to be made or have to be gutted like a fish with 90% of it stripped out to even be offical. He should stop adding new crap, get the core game out and then add stuff. But hes not. Anyway, SC is a non issue vs legion. You can easily play new eden and SC at the same time. So its really nothing. And i'm 90% sure SC will be a huge flop. But we will see. On another note The new Dust roadmap shows nothing of legion but what looks like some good improvements to dust. So things are being done, just which direction is the issue. I wish ccp would just announce a greenlight already then some speculation can die. Agreed it's probably easier for CCP to manage their own game without having to go through Sony. Star Citizen does have hype up for it but not as much as Titanfall and Destiny did , at least from what I've seen since I don't pay that much attention to it. But I wasn't paying much attention to Destiny and Titanfall but saw plenty of it.( mostly commercials). We've seen more of Star Citizen than we have of Legion though. And as titan fall and destiny did not kill Dust... Thats the point with this stupid argument 'oh ccp is scared of game x! watch game x kill eve/dust/whatever' No, ccp is not scared. No game x won't kill anything. Its not like most people can;t play two games at once. sheesh.

One Eyed King Land of the BIind 6337	Posted - 2014.12.04 04:07:00 - [121] - Quote Wow. Just found this thread and unfortunately read all of it. It would be a mistake for CCP not to do SOMETHING Dust/Legion related at Fanfest, precisely because of the results of the last two. They F'd up majorly, and they need to take the time, even if it is just a little, to make it right. So far, Fanfest and to Dust has been synonymous with deception, intended or not, and flat out disrespect to the community. If they don't take the time to have some sort of panel, it doesn't have to be big, just something small but positive with no promises or exaggerations, then they only cement the view of those within this community that believe we are thought of as a second class of gamers/customers. Rattati, Logibro, Frame and CCP Shanghai have done a lot for Dust lately, but even then it feels like they are fighting an uphill battle within CCP. If CCP as a whole can't take the time to carve out even the smallest of portions of time for Dust, then their silence really says all that can be said about how CCP views Dust/Legion. Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
137H4RGIC Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 384	Posted - 2014.12.05 07:46:00 - [122] - Quote I was all like: yay! A blue tag! Then I read it and my excitement fell like a ball rolling off a table. But actually though I've been pleased with the way cpm has been responding to this thread. I want to help DUST become a better experience for everyone. Let's work together! 137H4RGIC - Running for CPM2 (SOONGäó)
Denak Kalamari 1619	Posted - 2014.12.07 21:44:00 - [123] - Quote Reading all this, it just asserts my decision to not touch DUST 514 ever again even further. There's still a glimmer of hope for me that Legion is ever going to see the light of day, though. Maybe. Farewell.
DAMIOS82 WarRavens Capital Punishment. 142	Posted - 2014.12.08 03:57:00 - [124] - Quote There are severall things EVE capsuleers have always wanted and have been crying for for years; first the foundations which is EVE itself offcourse an economic driven world that can be fought for or explored to its fullest, a form of planetary interaction, along with station and ship interaction and beeing able to fly fighters. When ccp showed a little screen at fanfest last year, where all three games where under one menu. To me it just confirmed how much they want it them selfs aswell. However as much fun as dust could be, the limits of the ps3 are holding the proper development back. When ccp made the promises of cool new stuff back in the days of BETA, i do believe they had the intention of progressing the game like with EVE on a seasonall base with major leaps, But due to the limitations of the ps3 and sony, they just got knocked down to many times. And these same limitations will still be there on ps4/ps5/ps6 etc, no matter how one looks at it. If they had made Dust514 for pc straight from the gekko, Dust would be a hole different game, for we would have had skirmish 1.0, beeing able to go into proper buildings and interact with them, we would have our Mtac's, MAV, and fighters. And we would have our own interactive world(s). Ccp rouge predecessors never really failed Dust514, Dust514 just spitted them out saying hey i'm on a console, not on a pc. Legion and Valkyrie are the answer for ccp's nightmare, aslong as they can develop them in a way they know best and that is on the pc, (i'm not saying it should never port over to a console, but the proper foundations need to be there first). There are simply no limitations as to what one could do, but most of all it atracts the one group it was actually meant for and that is EVE Capsuleers/ EVE Fans. So no i do not believe Legion is dead. The fact that CCP is not talking is proberly due to there own NDA and that something big is coming, the question is only when they will announce it and when can we start playing it. And aslong as Valkyrie learns from Dust514's mistaked by porting a pc game to console, it will do just aswell as EVE. If not then Valkyrie will end up like dust514 and that is i'm sorry to say a sinking ship.
Nstomper Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 604	Posted - 2014.12.23 17:01:00 - [125] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. Two years in a row and ccp has nothing new to say or give to you on a game you waste time on for reasons im not sure of. I do give them props for basically telling you "you're not getting anything" rather than last years flop of " stay tuned we have some exciting announcements for dust 514" but its not much better. I doubt anyone from dust 514 community will go or watch fanfest because it would be nothing but a big waste of time.
Pseudogenesis Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1152	Posted - 2014.12.24 10:03:00 - [126] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Wow. Just found this thread and unfortunately read all of it. It would be a mistake for CCP not to do SOMETHING Dust/Legion related at Fanfest, precisely because of the results of the last two. They F'd up majorly, and they need to take the time, even if it is just a little, to make it right. So far, Fanfest and to Dust has been synonymous with deception, intended or not, and flat out disrespect to the community. If they don't take the time to have some sort of panel, it doesn't have to be big, just something small but positive with no promises or exaggerations, then they only cement the view of those within this community that believe we are thought of as a second class of gamers/customers. Rattati, Logibro, Frame and CCP Shanghai have done a lot for Dust lately, but even then it feels like they are fighting an uphill battle within CCP. If CCP as a whole can't take the time to carve out even the smallest of portions of time for Dust, then their silence really says all that can be said about how CCP views Dust/Legion. They are going to have some Dust/Legion stuff, just not big, official presentations. It's been said that they'll be talking about both games at roundtables and stuff, so as long as we have people there reporting what's said (hint: we will), we'll get some info out of fanfest. I remain cautiously optimistic. Stabby-stabber extraordinaire I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
Roy Xkillerz Red Star. EoN. 53	Posted - 2014.12.24 19:19:00 - [127] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. Dear CCP Frame, Here I give me honest thoughts about last fanfest. I was very hyped about Legion. I sold me ps3 when hearing everything. I was very exited to hear more info about Legion at next fanfest until I stepped on this message. I don't wanna destroy dreams but http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust Look to past year dust players are slowly decreasing each month. People are moving to the ps4. Whats next? Saying nothing this fanfest would by very very bad for the Dust and Legion IP. I was even thinking that this was a trolling post. Sorry about that but I believe legion is very importent for the EVE ip to evolve to the next step titan boarding etc. I want something just as emmersive as star citizen is becoming but then better. While I agreed I am a part off the PC master race I bought a ps3 because dust 514 in the first place. Promises were that it would become involved with EVE greatly. Legion for pc is something I am waiting for long time. Atm I am unsubbed at eve and waiting whats gonna happen NEXT so also the FPS part. Have played eve on and off for 7 years. Of course stuff can still change fanfest is a few months away. But this is my thinking the big why you should talk about legion in a official presentation and have a plan ready. Anyway I watch next fanfest and see what happends.
Ashley Swift G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 27	Posted - 2015.01.01 18:19:00 - [128] - Quote So if you're not going to have Dust/Legion at Fanfest, does that mean something is being he for like ..... I don't know.... Playstation Conference at E3? Or maybe the 6+ years of work for this sandbox MMOFPS was for nothing. Now that you're close I feel like coming undone
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2271	Posted - 2015.01.01 23:05:00 - [129] - Quote Ashley Swift wrote: So if you're not going to have Dust/Legion at Fanfest, does that mean something is being he for like ..... I don't know.... Playstation Conference at E3? Or maybe the 6+ years of work for this sandbox MMOFPS was for nothing. Why would they have anything to say at a Playstation conference? Unless Legion is going PS4 instead of PC, or they abandoned Legion and DUST is going PS4 (both of which are highly unlikely) they have nothing to do at E3 in regards to Legion/DUST. Better yet, why would they have anything to say at all if not at Fanfest? Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.
Jathniel G I A N T 1394	Posted - 2015.01.01 23:35:00 - [130] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. Whoa. Really? It's like that? Well, if CCP has no plans to announce ANYTHING about Dust or Legion... that can be translated as them not caring about Dust/Legion, besides it being a passive income source feeding off gamer hopes. To believe I spent money here since after this post was made... I wish I had seen this post sooner. I appreciate your professionalism even giving us the heads up, Frame. This is the second biggest disappointment in all my years as a gamer. Uninstalling Dust. Sonic the Hedgehog FTFW

Arunis Gen G I A N T 184	Posted - 2015.01.01 23:54:00 - [131] - Quote Jathniel wrote: CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. Whoa. Really? It's like that? Well, if CCP has no plans to announce ANYTHING about Dust or Legion... that can be translated as them not caring about Dust/Legion, besides it being a passive income source feeding off gamer hopes. To believe I spent money here since after this post was made... I wish I had seen this post sooner. I appreciate your professionalism in giving us the heads up, Frame. This is the second biggest disappointment in all my years as a gamer. Uninstalling Dust. Hahahaa CCP is sheit. Jath, your bros are waiting for you with open arms on the PS4. See you soon! `~_~-G I A N T for Life-~_~ ~_~-Bitter Veteran-~_~`
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5166	Posted - 2015.01.02 05:36:00 - [132] - Quote Jathniel wrote: Well, if CCP has no plans to announce ANYTHING about Dust or Legion... that can be translated as them not caring about Dust/Legion, besides it being a passive income source feeding off gamer hopes. To believe I spent money here since after this post was made... I wish I had seen this post sooner. I appreciate your professionalism in giving us the heads up, Frame. This is the second biggest disappointment in all my years as a gamer. Uninstalling Dust. Perhaps you have also not seen the post where they announce the next release for Dust coming soon... /sigh CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2273	Posted - 2015.01.02 08:45:00 - [133] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Perhaps you have also not seen the post where they announce the next release for Dust coming soon... /sigh Iterating on a game on a dead (dying) platform is not getting the game anywhere, at least not with such a small development team. Also, more cash grabs incoming? But keep trying to defend not having anything to announce at Fanfest. Sigh. Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5167	Posted - 2015.01.02 14:42:00 - [134] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: But keep trying to defend not having anything to announce at Fanfest. I will keep defending it. Because holding stuff to announce at Fanfest is a stupid idea, and I'm glad CCP is posting stuff as soon as it's possible, like announcing the next release and such, rather than waiting for a marketing event that has backfired two years in a row. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2273	Posted - 2015.01.02 14:51:00 - [135] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Bendtner92 wrote: But keep trying to defend not having anything to announce at Fanfest. I will keep defending it. Because holding stuff to announce at Fanfest is a stupid idea, and I'm glad CCP is posting stuff as soon as it's possible, like announcing the next release and such, rather than waiting for a marketing event that has backfired two years in a row. Well, it would've been hard to announce the next releases at Fanfest considering they're being deployed before, so nothing surprising or new with that process. Having nothing to say about either game's future (DUST/Legion) at their own event is hilariously stupid, and nothing has or is indicating such information will come in other ways, so i can't see the point in trying to defend what they're doing in any way. Edit: Saying last years Fanfest backfired depends on your view. Legion is to make their EVE players happy, and I believe Fanfest didn't backfire in regards to that. Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5167	Posted - 2015.01.02 15:02:00 - [136] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: Edit: Saying last years Fanfest backfired depends on your view. Legion is to make their EVE players happy, and I believe Fanfest didn't backfire in regards to that. Last Fanfest definitely backfired. Nuking their existing product's playerbase for a demo of improved graphics that didn't even show any new gameplay? Um... yeah, that's what you call a backfire. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2273	Posted - 2015.01.02 15:04:00 - [137] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Bendtner92 wrote: Edit: Saying last years Fanfest backfired depends on your view. Legion is to make their EVE players happy, and I believe Fanfest didn't backfire in regards to that. Last Fanfest definitely backfired. Nuking their existing product's playerbase for a demo of improved graphics that didn't even show any new gameplay? Um... yeah, that's what you call a backfire. Like I said, depends on your view. I'm sure it satisfied their EVE players, which is what the goal was. Not saying anything about Legion at Fanfest wouldn't have changed the result very much, as DUST would've been doomed either way. Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5167	Posted - 2015.01.02 15:42:00 - [138] - Quote I would say it nuked a lot of the core playerbase/community. DUST gets a lot of new players, and particularly there's been a huge uptick in South America, which I think is pretty noticeable in-game. But a lot of the core community seems to have moved on. And yeah, Fanfest is kinda the number one cause there. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2274	Posted - 2015.01.02 15:51:00 - [139] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: I would say it nuked a lot of the core playerbase/community. DUST gets a lot of new players, and particularly there's been a huge uptick in South America, which I think is pretty noticeable in-game. But a lot of the core community seems to have moved on. And yeah, Fanfest is kinda the number one cause there. Why is that necessarily because of Legion? What should CCP have done instead? Announced Legion earlier? That would've made people quit sooner. Announced Legion later? People would've quit anyway due to no development on DUST, plus CCP would have had nothing to say at Fanfest. CCP had to announce Legion at Fanfest, and I firmly believe not announcing it there wouldn't have changed anything, as people would've quit anyway (because as I said earlier, DUST was doomed no matter what). Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5167	Posted - 2015.01.02 16:08:00 - [140] - Quote CCP should have made the DUST keynote about DUST, explained what they were doing for DUST. And then at the end said, early preview, here's the other thing we're working on. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.

Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2274	Posted - 2015.01.02 16:20:00 - [141] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: CCP should have made the DUST keynote about DUST, explained what they were doing for DUST. And then at the end said, early preview, here's the other thing we're working on. But they had nothing to announce for DUST. They weren't doing anything for DUST at that point. The salvage process for DUST didn't start until after Fanfest when they realised they needed to keep working on DUST, so there wasn't anything for DUST to talk about. Pretty much all focus and work had been on Legion up to Fanfest. I also don't know what that would've really changed. Announcing another game dooms DUST, no matter what. Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.
gauntlet44 LbowDeep Heaven84 Devils General Tso's Alliance 198	Posted - 2015.01.02 20:09:00 - [142] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: CCP should have made the DUST keynote about DUST, explained what they were doing for DUST. And then at the end said, early preview, here's the other thing we're working on. or not called it a dust keynote if it wasn't abut dust also play as strangeland stranger, gauntlett5487, and balacs sixkin
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5185	Posted - 2015.01.02 20:14:00 - [143] - Quote gauntlet44 LbowDeep wrote: or not called it a dust keynote if it wasn't abut dust That too. ^ CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Ghural WarRavens Capital Punishment. 367	Posted - 2015.01.02 23:21:00 - [144] - Quote I would have thought having a presentation at fanfest regarding the direction of dust and the new road map would have been appropriate. I find it hilarious that last year they had nothing to say about dust, and they still had a presentation. Whereas this year they actually have something to say about dust, but there will be no presentation. They've made some steps forward for dust, they should talk about it at fanfest.
DaReaperPW Net 7 68	Posted - 2015.01.03 02:26:00 - [145] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: CCP should have made the DUST keynote about DUST, explained what they were doing for DUST. And then at the end said, early preview, here's the other thing we're working on. this. IMO they should of given info on dust, anything, thne announced legion. if they had nothing to account for dust, then have no keynote, no hype and annouce legion during ccp presents. but they didn;t. they screwed it up badly
Jathniel 1397	Posted - 2015.01.03 05:21:00 - [146] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Bendtner92 wrote: But keep trying to defend not having anything to announce at Fanfest. I will keep defending it. Because holding stuff to announce at Fanfest is a stupid idea, and I'm glad CCP is posting stuff as soon as it's possible, like announcing the next release and such, rather than waiting for a marketing event that has backfired two years in a row. Soraya, it's not an announcement that's a bad idea, it's what you announce and how. Dust was already dying, and Legion was not announced well. Giving full thought on how to treat the Dust playerbase should have been a priority, because us PC people aren't going anywhere, and would play Legion regardless of what happened with Dust. I got the surveys and heard the Legion announcement, and came back to play Dust, just to see the game evolve. The current Dust team has done a good job making Dust something remotely enjoyable again. But the game cannot evolve here. You can polish and fine tune all day long, but evolve it will not. EVE was able to evolve over time, because it not only had a dedicated fanbase and dev team (as Dust also does), but it also had a platform with which it could evolve, the PC. Dust does not have this. Someone can't go out and say, 'let me improve my PS3' so I can enjoy Dust better. Dust is a console online multiplayer exclusive. Such an exclusive dies with its system. How many people still play Killzone 1 multiplayer? How about Halo: Combat Evolved or Halo 2? http://www.bungie.net/en-US/Forum/Post/2139032/0/0 But you can easily find those games on PC today. Even if CCP just straight up ports it raw to PC, that immortalizes it. And brings them more money. And if they really really want to, they can make it great. But to leave a game like this, which has far more potential than Killzone or Halo ever had, on this one platform that cannot grow, and not even announce something like, "We will move it to PC eventually, don't sweat." leaves me speechless. So for me and some others, it doesn't matter how healthy Dust may get on the PS3, if nothing is announced, and no plans for its future success are considered, it's a waste. It's like having a party on the Titanic. Killzone made numerous iterations of itself, as did Halo. Why should Dust die? Why can't something long term be considered? It's an excellent product? What am I overlooking? WoW is still around. Everquest is still around. Mechwarrior is still around. Ancient games. Alive because of both a dedicated playerbase and platform that will never grow old. Why is Dust being denied this still? Because people got mad over an announcement that was made improperly? I'm done with Dust for now. I set the timetable that I would stop playing Dust, if they don't show any interests in porting it or making it evolve, namely if they don't say what they want to work on by FF. But they are on their timetable, not mine. If they get going in a direction that I agree with again, then I will come back. I'm not deleting my character or anything drastic like that. I am just not going to play Dust or buy anything from them, for it. Retired
Arunis Gen G I A N T 185	Posted - 2015.01.03 07:30:00 - [147] - Quote Jathniel wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Bendtner92 wrote: But keep trying to defend not having anything to announce at Fanfest. I will keep defending it. Because holding stuff to announce at Fanfest is a stupid idea, and I'm glad CCP is posting stuff as soon as it's possible, like announcing the next release and such, rather than waiting for a marketing event that has backfired two years in a row. Soraya, it's not an announcement that's a bad idea, it's what you announce and how. Dust was already dying, and Legion was not announced well. Giving full thought on how to treat the Dust playerbase should have been a priority, because us PC people aren't going anywhere, and would play Legion regardless of what happened with Dust. I got the surveys and heard the Legion announcement, and came back to play Dust, just to see the game evolve. The current Dust team has done a good job making Dust something remotely enjoyable again. But the game cannot evolve here. You can polish and fine tune all day long, but evolve it will not. EVE was able to evolve over time, because it not only had a dedicated fanbase and dev team (as Dust also does), but it also had a platform with which it could evolve, the PC. Dust does not have this. Someone can't go out and say, 'let me improve my PS3' so I can enjoy Dust better. Dust is a console online multiplayer exclusive. Such an exclusive dies with its system. How many people still play Killzone 1 multiplayer? How about Halo: Combat Evolved or Halo 2? http://www.bungie.net/en-US/Forum/Post/2139032/0/0 But you can easily find those games on PC today. Even if CCP just straight up ports it raw to PC, that immortalizes it. And brings them more money. And if they really really want to, they can make it great. But to leave a game like this, which has far more potential than Killzone or Halo ever had, on this one platform that cannot grow, and not even announce something like, "We will move it to PC eventually, don't sweat." leaves me speechless. So for me and some others, it doesn't matter how healthy Dust may get on the PS3, if nothing is announced, and no plans for its future success are considered, it's a waste. It's like having a party on the Titanic. Killzone made numerous iterations of itself, as did Halo. Why should Dust die? Why can't something long term be considered? It's an excellent product? What am I overlooking? WoW is still around. Everquest is still around. Mechwarrior is still around. Ancient games. Alive because of both a dedicated playerbase and platform that will never grow old. Why is Dust being denied this still? Because people got mad over an announcement that was made improperly? I'm done with Dust for now. I set the timetable that I would stop playing Dust, if they don't show any interests in porting it or making it evolve, namely if they don't say what they want to work on by FF. But they are on their timetable, not mine. If they get going in a direction that I agree with again, then I will come back. I'm not deleting my character or anything drastic like that. I am just not going to play Dust or buy anything from them, for it. Aaaah just come join us on the PS4 already. We miss you brah. Let the non-believers believe in their false prophets and let the awakened enjoy their freedom. I promise you that you can keep your PC as long as you get a PS4! `~_~-G I A N T for Life-~_~ ~_~-Bitter Veteran-~_~`
7th Son 7 Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 174	Posted - 2015.01.06 02:46:00 - [148] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. your kidding me? I would think they want all the hype they can get?
steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3449	Posted - 2015.01.06 07:59:00 - [149] - Quote I think ccp is fed of hype trains derailing and exploding on them tbh. Looking at WoD development it will be 5-6 years before we see anything from legion anyway =ƒÿå You can never have to many chaples -Templar True adamance
Meknow Intaki 297	Posted - 2015.01.10 14:23:00 - [150] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. From the horses mouth!! Dust is Dead =ƒÿ¦=ƒö½

NoExsplosionsMgee Rebels New Republic The Ditanian Alliance 318	Posted - 2015.01.11 01:34:00 - [151] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. :( PRAISE THE SUN!! \ \|Gö¼\|' /
lateriss ObscuriLateris 22	Posted - 2015.01.13 17:35:00 - [152] - Quote NoExsplosionsMgee wrote: CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. :( In Iceland at the fanfest this year- Expect people to ask what is going with Project Legion. Why? Because you guys showed it last year!!!!!!!!!!!!!! C'mon folks- we are your blood!!!!!!!!! Prototype or not at least give us a bone CCP Management.... GëíGïüGëí
castba Rogue Instincts 694	Posted - 2015.01.16 04:44:00 - [153] - Quote da GAND wrote: CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. I regret giving CCP any of my money, it was only for an EVE subscription for a few months but still at least I didn't waste any of my money on any of the these things people are willing to buy for their Dust accounts. Grinding in Dust 514 and trusting you guys has been a horrible time. Lol, and yet here you are... "When everything is OP, nothing is" - CCP Ratatti
da GAND Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 1102	Posted - 2015.01.16 13:45:00 - [154] - Quote Yes here I am on the Forums mostly awaiting news about Legion but wouldn't be surprised if it got canceled or is in the same position WOD was. Legion is only worth spending the time on these forums because it'll be everything that Dust was suppose to be. I don't waste my time in game anymore because it's still a frustrating game. Lack of teamwork, still getting stuck on stupid ** sometimes, same 3 modes we had before fanfest( I don't count FW and PC anymore). Should Legion be on the ps4?**
steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3465	Posted - 2015.01.16 14:53:00 - [155] - Quote Waves doing the same thing....mostly because I don't own a ps3 anymore though lol You can never have to many chaples -Templar True adamance
DaReaperPW Net 7 72	Posted - 2015.01.16 23:50:00 - [156] - Quote da GAND wrote: Yes here I am on the Forums mostly awaiting news about Legion but wouldn't be surprised if it got canceled or is in the same position WOD was. Legion is only worth spending the time on these forums because it'll be everything that Dust was suppose to be. I don't waste my time in game anymore because it's still a frustrating game. Lack of teamwork, still getting stuck on stupid ** sometimes, same 3 modes we had before fanfest( I don't count FW and PC anymore). Its only been a year. Honestly, cancled in a year is not very logicial. And it would be wise of them if IT was cancled to tell it, ** off that bit of blood, then focus heavily on dust. But i just don;t think thats whats going on. I suspect something big might happen at fan fest, but who knows. And i'm here mostly waititng for legion as well. I play dust onc ein a while. but tis a pita to get off the pc where i play eve and go to another room to play the ps3.
crazy space 1 Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 2575	Posted - 2015.01.18 05:29:00 - [157] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: I honestly do hope that CCP will one day figure out that engaging us in a transparent and direct manner will work out better for them than ill-considered statements and misinformation or total silence. . This is why my wife compares my 8 year relationship with CCP akin to a bad girlfriend who I still check up on from time to time.
lateriss ObscuriLateris 26	Posted - 2015.01.18 16:29:00 - [158] - Quote I couldn't agree more in terms of the way Legion is silenced at the moment. I am sure the working class of CCP games want to talk about it but have strict "orders" to be silent. In this phase of the game industry it isn't best to stay silent. Look at how management nearly destroyed Eve Online a few years back, it simply doesn't work anymore. A tale of internet space ships Edited- with all due respect it really needs to be a bit more open. GëíGïüGëí
DaReaperPW Net 7 73	Posted - 2015.01.18 22:43:00 - [159] - Quote lateriss wrote: I couldn't agree more in terms of the way Legion is silenced at the moment. I am sure the working class of CCP games want to talk about it but have strict "orders" to be silent. In this phase of the game industry it isn't best to stay silent. Look at how management nearly destroyed Eve Online a few years back, it simply doesn't work anymore. A tale of internet space ships Edited- with all due respect it really needs to be a bit more open. I disagree. Being more open about 1) a game not yet green lite that is having devs switch in and out of it to work on dust, is not very wise. 2) Lets say, after the Rouge Wedding, that dust rebounded with player numbers and money, lets say CCP is mainly focused on legion, and dust is still just getting some random old backlogged filled, maybe to pave the way for legion boo knows. But lets say dust is making money, maybe not tons, but enough. If they did not have anything about dust, because dust is in a state of shut down, and they mentioned only legion and shown its progress, it would drive MORE players away from dust. From a business perceptive this makes zero sense. Also lets flip it. Lets say they show some neat things for dust, and nothing of legion, cause legion is not ready to show anything. And then. lets say they get lots of feed back form players saying 'we want legion' or lets say a few months later they make a breakthrough and someone legion is done sooner. Then they cancel the dust development stuff they showed at fan fest, and that will leave a bad taste in players mouths. I mean hell, you have guys who are foaming at the mouth for Star Citizen who play eve and keep mentioning a fan fest video ccp did in 04 as a possible concept for atmospheric flight. Things ccp has announced gets held over there heads if they don;t finish it. So why announce anything thats not even close to be done. The point i am making, Dust and Legion are on a precarious position atm. If they do or say the wrong thing it could damage both products for no reason. So best to stay silent for anything not done so you don't hurt your product more then you need to.
Roy Xkillerz Red Star. 54	Posted - 2015.03.15 12:06:00 - [160] - Quote http://evenews24.com/2015/03/14/released-fanfest-2015-steam-schedule/ So they released the schedule. Sadly I don't see anything about legion into it. I do see this. Make Eve Real GÇô Creating Planetary Civilizations. But thats about real life. So are the devs gonna by as rocks and ignore the lowering player base and don't say anything about dust or legion? Atm still unsubbed on eve before the future vision is clear every year the concept changes 360 degrees. I want to control a war barge in eve online and hire mercs. I am really not happy how stuff is going just a honest opinion but I am following it because I hope stuff does becomes better. If not then i am off to star citizen. People that go to fanfest try to get some info out of them if they are still developing on Legion.

Cypher Nil Fireteam Tempest 75	Posted - 2015.03.15 18:03:00 - [161] - Quote G Felix wrote: Well, I guess no news is better than bad news that scatters our player base to the wind... Actually not really, I was playing dust again because of the promise of carrying my progress over to legion but no news is making me doubt legion is coming and dust is rubbish now so I've stopped playing Its ok, I'm a ninja
Spectre-M The Generals 876	Posted - 2015.03.18 04:11:00 - [162] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. Haven't been here for 4 months. Thought I'd see if there was ANY post by a dev, and this is what I see. I only logged in to laugh at you CCP. Epic fail. You guys need to pull your heads out of your ass or be left behind. Smh Minnmitar in Amarr armor. A Wolf in Sheeps clothing. May the Empress live till she graces my sights.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 5355	Posted - 2015.03.18 13:13:00 - [163] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: I think ccp is fed of hype trains derailing and exploding on them tbh. Looking at WoD development it will be 5-6 years before we see anything from legion anyway =ƒÿå WoD was never talked about because they never had anything. Legion will never be talked about because they don't have anything. Usually banned for being too awesome.
Kain Spero Negative-Feedback. 4766	Posted - 2015.03.19 10:43:00 - [164] - Quote Fanfest has arrived and yet CCP hasn't breathed a word of any real news. Not saying anything at Fanfest? Fine. Not saying anything at all? Things looking grim. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3652	Posted - 2015.03.19 11:59:00 - [165] - Quote Bwah. Don't often see you in this ghost town Kain =ƒÿå. The regulars kinda worked that months ago =ƒÿå You can never have to many chaples -Templar True adamance
lateriss ObscuriLateris 41	Posted - 2015.03.21 07:23:00 - [166] - Quote http://massivelyop.net/2015/03/20/eve-fanfest-2015-project-legion-may-be-in-development-limbo/ GëíGïüGëí
da GAND Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 1139	Posted - 2015.03.21 16:03:00 - [167] - Quote lateriss wrote: http://massivelyop.net/2015/03/20/eve-fanfest-2015-project-legion-may-be-in-development-limbo/ Well the guys from EVE understand how we feel as well Should Legion be on the ps4?
lateriss ObscuriLateris 43	Posted - 2015.03.21 17:00:00 - [168] - Quote Well there is some good news for us Dust514 players on the PS3. Dust 514 is now profitable for CCP games. Which means if they port it to the PC it would mean more profit. It would seem upper management are making silly decisions on PL...no offense Source Quote: This is one of the most surprising things from Fanfest this year: CCP is happy with DUST 514, and the game is going well. I also asked about Project Legion, the sort of announced game from last year that CCP said may or may not become a product. I was told there was nothing to announce. "WeGÇÖre looking into a lot of options for whatGÇÖs going to happen next for Dust," P+¬tursson said. "ItGÇÖs too early to say anything to be honest. The game is now a profitable business for CCP, and thatGÇÖs a good thing." But it is still a terrible thing to blow off your community CCP in terms of PL. GëíGïüGëí
da GAND Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 1140	Posted - 2015.03.21 18:50:00 - [169] - Quote I wouldn't mind all the stuff they are doing with Dust514 as long I knew these were test for Legion or a Dust514 port to PC and maybe PS4. CCP seems too small of a company to be this silent about development of there games and sometimes one part of the company not knowing what the other part was doing. Should Legion be on the ps4?
lateriss ObscuriLateris 43	Posted - 2015.03.22 18:21:00 - [170] - Quote I just downloaded the unreal engine 4. Time to do my own thing. In the meantime at least Dust514 is alive, Eve Valkyrie looks awesome, and Eve Online is kicking butt. GëíGïüGëí

Spectre-M The Generals 877	Posted - 2015.03.23 05:48:00 - [171] - Quote lateriss wrote: http://massivelyop.net/2015/03/20/eve-fanfest-2015-project-legion-may-be-in-development-limbo/ That's...unfortunate. Not surprised about this news tbh. I find it ironic that they tried to kill dust at the previous fanfest and are now going back to console focus. Too bad, maybe they could have avoided the red wedding completely and had put the last year or so focusing on one format. Ccp keeps choking on their own tongue. Minnmitar in Amarr armor. A Wolf in Sheeps clothing. May the Empress live till she graces my sights.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2427	Posted - 2015.03.23 20:29:00 - [172] - Quote lateriss wrote: I just downloaded the unreal engine 4. Time to do my own thing. In the meantime at least Dust514 is alive, Eve Valkyrie looks awesome, and Eve Online is kicking butt. Yes, if by kicking butt you mean losing subscribers and slowly petering out, much like Dust as well. We'll see if Valkyrie is enough to keep CCP afloat, but I doubt it.
steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3668	Posted - 2015.03.23 21:23:00 - [173] - Quote expect thats it not, EvE is still very very strong... You can never have to many chaples -Templar True adamance
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2427	Posted - 2015.03.23 22:21:00 - [174] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: expect thats it not, EvE is still very very strong... Except it isn't: http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility Steady decline, though minimal, since 2013. No growth at all since 2011 overall. Current user logons are consistent with those in 2009. That's not what I would call "very strong".
DaReaperPW Net 7 82	Posted - 2015.03.25 16:16:00 - [175] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: expect thats it not, EvE is still very very strong... Except it isn't: http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility Steady decline, though minimal, since 2013. No growth at all since 2011 overall. Current user logons are consistent with those in 2009. That's not what I would call "very strong". Except you have no real correlation. Skill queues that can be a year + long means people can walk away form eve and play other stuff.. whill still paying for eve. Eve offline != subscription numbers. Only whos is online. You really can not get any real info from that site besides how many players are on. And eve has been peaking at 40K+ during prime time for months now, so its rebounding. But again, there is not enough information to support the claim that even is down subscribers. Even if you look at last years 6 month update, you can calculate that eve was down about 2.5k subscriptions in the first 6 months. But how much of that money was dust is the question. There just is no evidence to support either claim unfortunatly
Kayla Michael Tactical Logistics and Cargo 88	Posted - 2015.03.25 17:10:00 - [176] - Quote da GAND wrote: Isa Lucifer wrote: seems so, but patience rewards. Ya... just like last fanfest... cuz we all thought we were getting something new for Dust.... Which still aggravates me to this very day. Yay, that they are working on Legion. A better DUST and all.. still wished they haven't hyped it up like that, got a lot of us believing DUST would be even better. I eat drahp uplink, me thinks this isn't a cookie. `~`
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 11269	Posted - 2015.03.27 02:33:00 - [177] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: expect thats it not, EvE is still very very strong... Except it isn't: http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility Steady decline, though minimal, since 2013. No growth at all since 2011 overall. Current user logons are consistent with those in 2009. That's not what I would call "very strong". Keep in mind that Eve-Offline is not accounting for those passive players who are on call for any major fleet battles that may occur. The recent addition of infinite skill queue may have played a role as well. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
DaReaperPW Net 7 82	Posted - 2015.03.29 00:42:00 - [178] - Quote Fan fest made sense, they only showed what was possibly coming in the near future, as in in 2015. They have nothing new to report for legion, and where as last year they shot dust in the foot, dust is making money, so might as well milk the cash cow for a bit longer before killing it
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2427	Posted - 2015.04.03 03:36:00 - [179] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Buster Friently wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: expect thats it not, EvE is still very very strong... Except it isn't: http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility Steady decline, though minimal, since 2013. No growth at all since 2011 overall. Current user logons are consistent with those in 2009. That's not what I would call "very strong". Keep in mind that Eve-Offline is not accounting for those passive players who are on call for any major fleet battles that may occur. The recent addition of infinite skill queue may have played a role as well. Eve offline counts anyone who logs in. It's true it doesn't count how many people are paying, but one can assume that it's related quite strongly to the number of concurrencies.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2427	Posted - 2015.04.03 03:37:00 - [180] - Quote DaReaperPW wrote: Buster Friently wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: expect thats it not, EvE is still very very strong... Except it isn't: http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility Steady decline, though minimal, since 2013. No growth at all since 2011 overall. Current user logons are consistent with those in 2009. That's not what I would call "very strong". Except you have no real correlation. Skill queues that can be a year + long means people can walk away form eve and play other stuff.. whill still paying for eve. Eve offline != subscription numbers. Only whos is online. You really can not get any real info from that site besides how many players are on. And eve has been peaking at 40K+ during prime time for months now, so its rebounding. But again, there is not enough information to support the claim that even is down subscribers. Even if you look at last years 6 month update, you can calculate that eve was down about 2.5k subscriptions in the first 6 months. But how much of that money was dust is the question. There just is no evidence to support either claim unfortunatly Yes, it's rebounding, if by rebounding you mean a steady decline since 2014. Lol.

Selinate deux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 192	Posted - 2015.04.21 18:43:00 - [181] - Quote DaReaperPW wrote: Buster Friently wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: expect thats it not, EvE is still very very strong... Except it isn't: http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility Steady decline, though minimal, since 2013. No growth at all since 2011 overall. Current user logons are consistent with those in 2009. That's not what I would call "very strong". Except you have no real correlation. Skill queues that can be a year + long means people can walk away form eve and play other stuff.. whill still paying for eve. Eve offline != subscription numbers. Only whos is online. You really can not get any real info from that site besides how many players are on. And eve has been peaking at 40K+ during prime time for months now, so its rebounding. But again, there is not enough information to support the claim that even is down subscribers. Even if you look at last years 6 month update, you can calculate that eve was down about 2.5k subscriptions in the first 6 months. But how much of that money was dust is the question. There just is no evidence to support either claim unfortunatly Yeah, sure. There are tens of thousands of Eve players just sitting offline indefinitely paying a subscription for a game that they never play. Give up. Eve is actually declining at this point. If 40k + players is rebounding, then it has about 20k to go before you can say it's really "rebounding" since the devs at CCP built their game to be such a niche game that their current and past audience is just about their only audience. Incarna was just about the only time they ever tried to appeal to anyone outside of their niche market with that game and the players acted like brats and spoiled it for the large portion of the player base who actually wanted it and decided not to bother any more after witnessing the community act the way they did (like me). When they actually manage to make their game "fun" and less about spreadsheets in space, then maybe they'll get the subscription base they always wanted. Until then, have fun with the decline.
Captain Africa Clone1 GRIM MERCS 207	Posted - 2015.05.10 13:53:00 - [182] - Quote Selinate deux wrote: DaReaperPW wrote: Buster Friently wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: expect thats it not, EvE is still very very strong... Except it isn't: http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility Steady decline, though minimal, since 2013. No growth at all since 2011 overall. Current user logons are consistent with those in 2009. That's not what I would call "very strong". Except you have no real correlation. Skill queues that can be a year + long means people can walk away form eve and play other stuff.. whill still paying for eve. Eve offline != subscription numbers. Only whos is online. You really can not get any real info from that site besides how many players are on. And eve has been peaking at 40K+ during prime time for months now, so its rebounding. But again, there is not enough information to support the claim that even is down subscribers. Even if you look at last years 6 month update, you can calculate that eve was down about 2.5k subscriptions in the first 6 months. But how much of that money was dust is the question. There just is no evidence to support either claim unfortunatly Yeah, sure. There are tens of thousands of Eve players just sitting offline indefinitely paying a subscription for a game that they never play. Give up. Eve is actually declining at this point. If 40k + players is rebounding, then it has about 20k to go before you can say it's really "rebounding" since the devs at CCP built their game to be such a niche game that their current and past audience is just about their only audience. Incarna was just about the only time they ever tried to appeal to anyone outside of their niche market with that game and the players acted like brats and spoiled it for the large portion of the player base who actually wanted it and decided not to bother any more after witnessing the community act the way they did (like me). When they actually manage to make their game "fun" and less about spreadsheets in space, then maybe they'll get the subscription base they always wanted. Until then, have fun with the decline. Ah man ...look i dont want to pick a fight with you but stop spreading crap ...Eve online is in a very healthy state. CCP have to a large degree made policy to not allow players multiboxing 10-20 acounts (mining fleets) so there was a crap load of people that got rid of their extra accounts because of this. CCP's first priority is to make Eve a great game and if that means stepping on the toes of a few vets like myself then so be it ....Eve will be around for the next 12 years that you can take to the bank...there is just no equal. I mean for how long has people been DOOMING Dust ...and its still around and getting better. Im really so tired of people trying to spread neg publicity (if you don't like the fucken game then move on ) !!!!! Join the March ,see the universe , meet interesting people and kill them G£¬ http://grimmarch.wix.com/grim-march-ver1
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2431	Posted - 2015.05.12 16:59:00 - [183] - Quote Captain Africa Clone1 wrote: Selinate deux wrote: DaReaperPW wrote: Buster Friently wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: expect thats it not, EvE is still very very strong... Except it isn't: http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility Steady decline, though minimal, since 2013. No growth at all since 2011 overall. Current user logons are consistent with those in 2009. That's not what I would call "very strong". Except you have no real correlation. Skill queues that can be a year + long means people can walk away form eve and play other stuff.. whill still paying for eve. Eve offline != subscription numbers. Only whos is online. You really can not get any real info from that site besides how many players are on. And eve has been peaking at 40K+ during prime time for months now, so its rebounding. But again, there is not enough information to support the claim that even is down subscribers. Even if you look at last years 6 month update, you can calculate that eve was down about 2.5k subscriptions in the first 6 months. But how much of that money was dust is the question. There just is no evidence to support either claim unfortunatly Yeah, sure. There are tens of thousands of Eve players just sitting offline indefinitely paying a subscription for a game that they never play. Give up. Eve is actually declining at this point. If 40k + players is rebounding, then it has about 20k to go before you can say it's really "rebounding" since the devs at CCP built their game to be such a niche game that their current and past audience is just about their only audience. Incarna was just about the only time they ever tried to appeal to anyone outside of their niche market with that game and the players acted like brats and spoiled it for the large portion of the player base who actually wanted it and decided not to bother any more after witnessing the community act the way they did (like me). When they actually manage to make their game "fun" and less about spreadsheets in space, then maybe they'll get the subscription base they always wanted. Until then, have fun with the decline. Ah man ...look i dont want to pick a fight with you but stop spreading crap ...Eve online is in a very healthy state. CCP have to a large degree made policy to not allow players multiboxing 10-20 acounts (mining fleets) so there was a crap load of people that got rid of their extra accounts because of this. CCP's first priority is to make Eve a great game and if that means stepping on the toes of a few vets like myself then so be it ....Eve will be around for the next 12 years that you can take to the bank...there is just no equal. I mean for how long has people been DOOMING Dust ...and its still around and getting better. Im really so tired of people trying to spread neg publicity (if you don't like the fucken game then move on ) !!!!! I don't see how you can describe a continual die-off of players as "a very healthy state". Eve, most definitely, isn't in a "very healthy state". At best, it's sustaining CCP, but there's no growth at CCP anymore, and it's almost guaranteed that CCP is now shrinking because of a shrinking Eve playerbase. As I said earlier, as an employee of CCP, you wouldn't be looking at a declining player base as anything but "not healthy". Also, this isn't negative publicity. It's an answer to a question, but it is clear that there is a certain community out there that, somehow, wants to translate "declining since 2013" as somehow "very healthy". PS - You can't have a game without players.
Ghural WarRavens 390	Posted - 2015.05.19 09:03:00 - [184] - Quote EVE is shrinking, but so is the MMO market in general. The decline in users may be less than the industry average, which would be to the games credit.
Selinate deux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 193	Posted - 2015.05.29 00:03:00 - [185] - Quote Captain Africa Clone1 wrote: Ah man ...look i dont want to pick a fight with you but stop spreading crap ...Eve online is in a very healthy state. CCP have to a large degree made policy to not allow players multiboxing 10-20 acounts (mining fleets) so there was a crap load of people that got rid of their extra accounts because of this. CCP's first priority is to make Eve a great game and if that means stepping on the toes of a few vets like myself then so be it ....Eve will be around for the next 12 years that you can take to the bank...there is just no equal. I mean for how long has people been DOOMING Dust ...and its still around and getting better. Im really so tired of people trying to spread neg publicity (if you don't like the fucken game then move on ) !!!!! Riiiiiight. A steadily decreasing playerbase is just because of one rule decision which took place at one time. Look, I don't want to pick a fight with you but stop spreading crap, Eve is not in a healthy state. If this were the sole reason that the playerbase were declining, it would have been a jump, not a steady decline over time. Nevermind the fact that CCP should've done something about this ***** years ago and sat on their *** hands letting their game be ruined because of it. Now they just need to do something about the asshats who abuse the system by multiboxing and using ***** scouts in different corps to bypass the war dec system and get free intel. Or how about the log-on trick where players put a lone ratter in a pve cruiser and then suddenly 5 players log on and instantly appear in space to gank you. Eve is still terrible because of CCP's horrid decisions regarding what to allow in game and it's effectively ruined the game because of it. Only the hardcore players are sticking behind the sinking ship and now finally they're going too. Which brings us to Dust now. Lol. Dust is so healthy isn't it? It flopped on arrival and now only the few hardcore vets who saw "what it could be" are sticking around waiting for Dust to pick up and actually turn into something respectable. Yeah, it's getting so much better. It's not like it's still a pretty much dead game due to similar bad decisions for the game or the multi-year wait players have had to put up with to see "what it could be", just like Eve. Eventually, Dust will die off too unless they bring it to the PC and implement so many other basic gameplay features of a game that's supposed to be in an open persistent universe like they should've done years ago. The game is still a ***** exclusive on a system that's now roughly 9 ***** years old for christ's sake. You can't defend it any more.
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 2	Posted - 2015.05.29 01:11:00 - [186] - Quote Im so glad we understand these complex issues so well. Perhaps next we can tackle over population or world hunger? Sometimes I THINK you're r-tarded, most times I KNOW you're r-tarded. I less than three you DUST forums.
Mr.Pepe Le Pew Art.of.Death 134	Posted - 2015.05.29 15:04:00 - [187] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Im so glad we understand these complex issues so well. Perhaps next we can tackle over population or world hunger? lol CEO / Art.of.Death
Diablo Gamekeeper Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 474	Posted - 2015.08.07 16:54:00 - [188] - Quote da GAND wrote: Isa Lucifer wrote: seems so, but patience rewards. Ya... just like last fanfest... cuz we all thought we were getting something new for Dust.... Yeah... I'm back Rainbow Dash I have DESTROYED CCP Rattati
Diablo Gamekeeper Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 474	Posted - 2015.08.07 16:56:00 - [189] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. I guess this means legion is not greenlit And that Dust is ****** I'm back Rainbow Dash I have DESTROYED CCP Rattati
Wheezy Wes Anal Intruders 12	Posted - 2015.08.19 07:06:00 - [190] - Quote I certainly hope it gets released. I understand that the Eve side is the main revenue stream for CCP and Eve:Valkyrie is probably the main focus of CCP's development, but i'd buy a high quality gaming PC to play Legion as long as the progress made on Dust carries over. If CCP doesn't release it one day it'll be like dooking in the face of all of us who've paid money to support this game we love(and sometimes hate). I'd love a Dust like experience on PC especially if it played a more active role in the Eve universe. I think it'd also be cool to implement a War Thunder like element to Legion and Valkyrie. Think about it, Orbital strike inbound, pop to your handheld as a ground pounder and fly a sortie with a drone or Valkyrie fighter to knockout SatCom to disrupt the fight in space. Ahh probably won't happen like that but would be super cool. Thanks for reading o7 "In that a$$ with k-pot, tac light, and a barb wire flak vest"-Hutch, Delta-26, 1/506th 101st Airborne, Ramadi 05-06'

Bat Shard0 Heaven84 Devils Astroya Conglomerate. 72	Posted - 2015.08.19 18:00:00 - [191] - Quote Waht we want from CCP is just to stand up and say what is the actual status of Project Legion. That's it. http://dust514news.blogspot.com/
Seymor Krelborn Vengeance Unbound RUST415 2	Posted - 2015.09.26 15:19:00 - [192] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. stop being cowards and admit you all bit off more than you could chew. face it ccp doesn't have the resources or the talent to bring another game to fruition. prediction: eve online will be shutting down in 2017 ccp will be bought by EA and cannibalized. this game makes me sad....
Templar Eight Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2015.10.02 16:53:00 - [193] - Quote Seymor Krelborn wrote: CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. stop being cowards and admit you all bit off more than you could chew. face it ccp doesn't have the resources or the talent to bring another game to fruition. prediction: eve online will be shutting down in 2017 ccp will be bought by EA and cannibalized. Dear lord...
Lady MDK Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 440	Posted - 2015.10.04 19:38:00 - [194] - Quote Seymor Krelborn wrote: CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. stop being cowards and admit you all bit off more than you could chew. face it ccp doesn't have the resources or the talent to bring another game to fruition. prediction: eve online will be shutting down in 2017 ccp will be bought by EA and cannibalized. Suddenly seyyyyy Mourrrr....... Sorry..... pessimist. Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following. I don't care so neither should you :)
byte modal 250	Posted - 2015.10.08 05:14:00 - [195] - Quote Lady MDK wrote: Seymor Krelborn wrote: CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. stop being cowards and admit you all bit off more than you could chew. face it ccp doesn't have the resources or the talent to bring another game to fruition. prediction: eve online will be shutting down in 2017 ccp will be bought by EA and cannibalized. Suddenly seyyyyy Mourrrr....... Sorry..... pessimist. ...is stan-ding beeee side yooooou!! who'd-a-thunkit? find an obscure musical reference that I actually know in a more or less dead forum before crashing tonight. it kinda brings meaning to it all.... kitten bacon taco (nom)


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Delete Minmatar from the game.

Delete Minmatar from the game.

MY LIFE FOR AIUR!

MY LIFE FOR AIUR!

MY LIFE FOR AIUR!

Rainbow Dash

Rainbow Dash